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Triumph T140 Maintenance, Upgrades and Rides.
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Registrace 13. 08. 2023
If you enjoy watching my videos then please don't forget to Like and Subscribe.
Join me on my rides across New Zealand, and videos on some of the maintenances and upgrades I have done on my bike.
All my videos on my channel are mostly of me riding my Vintage Triumph Bonneville T140v 1977 along with a few maintenance tips I can give you from my 50 odd years as a Qualified Mechanical Engineer, along with my hobby and love of running and maintaining the Triumph Bonneville T140 motorcycle
These motorcycles are in my opinion still the best motorcycle ever built
I do not narrate my riding videos, as the engine sound is more than sufficient. The sound can be a bit different between videos due to my continually customising my recording sound equipment to eliminate wind noise, reverb and other sound distortions that do not related to the true engine sound at high rpm and riding speed
The latest videos are pretty close to the actual sound from the bike when ridden
Cheers
Join me on my rides across New Zealand, and videos on some of the maintenances and upgrades I have done on my bike.
All my videos on my channel are mostly of me riding my Vintage Triumph Bonneville T140v 1977 along with a few maintenance tips I can give you from my 50 odd years as a Qualified Mechanical Engineer, along with my hobby and love of running and maintaining the Triumph Bonneville T140 motorcycle
These motorcycles are in my opinion still the best motorcycle ever built
I do not narrate my riding videos, as the engine sound is more than sufficient. The sound can be a bit different between videos due to my continually customising my recording sound equipment to eliminate wind noise, reverb and other sound distortions that do not related to the true engine sound at high rpm and riding speed
The latest videos are pretty close to the actual sound from the bike when ridden
Cheers
Electric Start T140v Video Part Four 190624 - Triumph Bonneville T140v 1977
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Why I am fitting an Electric Start to my Triumph Bonneville T140v 1977
Some Exerts from My original diary’s in 2018
Its no good kidding myself have severe arthritis in my knees hips back and shoulders and using the kick start is becoming not only more difficult to do but also more painful for me to do.
I can still use the kick start but logically I can rapidly see a point coming in the next few years when I won’t be able to fire her up any more.
I have no intention of giving up on riding my Triumph Bonneville so I need to find a solution.
I am originally a qualified Scientific Instrument Maker by Trade and also worked on the shop floor as a maintenance engineer for too many years to remember before moving into management.
So instead of giving up, I wondered I can use my old expertise and skills as an engineer to help me continue to maintain and ride my motorcycle.
The Bonneville was fitted with an electric start in the early 80s with the ES the TX and the TSX versions.
That original Meriden/Harris electric start was sadly unreliable, and was mostly removed by the owners, and the bikes put back to standard. There are still a few exceptions out there but generally this was the case, so I cannot just fit one of those but maybe I can reengineer and find a solution with something like it.
So I need to investigate where practical all of the reported failure reasons of the Meriden and Harris Electric starters to see if I could find a reliable solution.
Eventually I decided on buying a Kit from LP Williams as I liked there idea about having the sprag resolving around the Intermediate shaft rather than the shaft and sprag being one part and the whole thing revolving in the crankcase housing-
Watch the video of me installing the basic kit it along with some other modifications to the electrics to see what I discover and work out a way to make it all reliable.
Hope you enjoy my four part video on the project, there will be a Part Five after I have finished the final upgrade testing when the bike has done 5000 miles with it.
The new clutch I have designed will be made available to you after testing is completed if you have need of one.
Just let me know direct by leaving me a message on here. Your enquiry will not be published.
Why I am fitting an Electric Start to my Triumph Bonneville T140v 1977
Some Exerts from My original diary’s in 2018
Its no good kidding myself have severe arthritis in my knees hips back and shoulders and using the kick start is becoming not only more difficult to do but also more painful for me to do.
I can still use the kick start but logically I can rapidly see a point coming in the next few years when I won’t be able to fire her up any more.
I have no intention of giving up on riding my Triumph Bonneville so I need to find a solution.
I am originally a qualified Scientific Instrument Maker by Trade and also worked on the shop floor as a maintenance engineer for too many years to remember before moving into management.
So instead of giving up, I wondered I can use my old expertise and skills as an engineer to help me continue to maintain and ride my motorcycle.
The Bonneville was fitted with an electric start in the early 80s with the ES the TX and the TSX versions.
That original Meriden/Harris electric start was sadly unreliable, and was mostly removed by the owners, and the bikes put back to standard. There are still a few exceptions out there but generally this was the case, so I cannot just fit one of those but maybe I can reengineer and find a solution with something like it.
So I need to investigate where practical all of the reported failure reasons of the Meriden and Harris Electric starters to see if I could find a reliable solution.
Eventually I decided on buying a Kit from LP Williams as I liked there idea about having the sprag resolving around the Intermediate shaft rather than the shaft and sprag being one part and the whole thing revolving in the crankcase housing-
Watch the video of me installing the basic kit it along with some other modifications to the electrics to see what I discover and work out a way to make it all reliable.
Hope you enjoy my four part video on the project, there will be a Part Five after I have finished the final upgrade testing when the bike has done 5000 miles with it.
The new clutch I have designed will be made available to you after testing is completed if you have need of one.
Just let me know direct by leaving me a message on here. Your enquiry will not be published.
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Electric Start T140v Video - Part Three 170624 -Triumph Bonneville T140v 1977
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Please remember to 'Subscribe' and click 'Like' to my videos. Thank you. @DaveWhellersVintage. Why I am fitting an Electric Start to my Triumph Bonneville T140v 1977 Some Exerts from My original diary’s in 2018 Its no good kidding myself have severe arthritis in my knees hips back and shoulders and using the kick start is becoming not only more difficult to do but also more painful for me to do...
Electric Start T140v Video Part Two 170624 -Triumph Bonneville T140v 1977
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Please remember to 'Subscribe' and click 'Like' to my videos. Thank you. @DaveWhellersVintage. Why I am fitting an Electric Start to my Triumph Bonneville T140v 1977 Some Exerts from My original diary’s in 2018 Its no good kidding myself have severe arthritis in my knees hips back and shoulders and using the kick start is becoming not only more difficult to do but also more painful for me to do...
Electric Start T140v Video Part One 170624 - Triumph Bonneville T140v 1977
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Please remember to 'Subscribe' and click 'Like' to my videos. Thank you. @DaveWhellersVintage. Why I am fitting an Electric Start to my Triumph Bonneville T140v 1977 Some Exerts from My original diary’s in 2018 Its no good kidding myself have severe arthritis in my knees hips back and shoulders and using the kick start is becoming not only more difficult to do but also more painful for me to do...
Triumph T140 Back Roads Run 15mins 120224
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Just a last run out around the local area before putting the bike into wintering mode.
Triumph T140v Halcombe Back roads New Zealand 12min 4k 060324
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Please remember to 'Subscribe' and click 'Like' to my videos. Thank you. @DaveWhellersVintage. Nice little ride out today, lovely scenery and good road quality. These roads are round the back of Fielding up passed the cemetery then on up to the Holcombe area of the Manawatu, New Zealand and back to Palmy. Hope you enjoy riding along with me.
Triumph T140 Arapuke Forest Kahuterawa 25 mins 4k 220224
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Please remember to 'Subscribe' and click 'Like' to my videos. Thank you. @DaveWhellersVintage. Had a brilliant run out today and discovered this awesome bikers road , with stunning scenery and plenty of spots to pull over for a cuppa. The highest summit was close on 5000ft. Hope you enjoy watching it on your big screen TVs with nice big speakers. Computer and phone videos cannot reproduce the b...
Triumph T140 3mins..The Sound of music of the T140v 4k 120224
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Please remember to 'Subscribe' and click 'Like' to my videos. Thank you. @DaveWhellersVintage. A 3min ride. Listen to the music of my Triumph Bonneville T140v.
Triumph T140v X Ring Chain Conversion 5mins HD 110224
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Please remember to 'Subscribe' and click 'Like' to my videos. Thank you. @DaveWhellersVintage. I converted my drive chain to a 530 Xring chain over two years ago now and its been one of the best upgrades I have done. From what I have seen to date with it, I doubt I will even have to tighten the chain in 10k miles, as at 5k its the same adjustment wise as when I first put it on and there is no c...
Triumph Bonneville T140v Chrome Disc Replacement to Lightened Drilled Cast Iron Disc 4k 020224
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Please remember to 'Subscribe' and click 'Like' to my videos. Thank you. @DaveWhellersVintage After putting up with my chrome front disc for the last 8years I decided to make a change to Cast Iron so that I can run more effective pads. It will be interesting to see how the new disc performs before I change my standard ferodo road pads and may upgrade potentially through to HH pads. I will repor...
Triumph T140v * New Zealand Vinegar Hill 25 mins - 061223 4k -CS WB40T45
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Don't forget to click 'Like' to any new videos you watch. Cheers folks. @DaveWhellersVintage Beautiful scenery. Nice ride, warm 24C but rather cloudy weather. Total distance 84 miles or 140km. Route - Palmerston North - Fielding - Cheltenham - SH 54 to Vinegar Hill - SH 1 back to Palmy. Rising aprox 500m at the viewing point I stopped for coffee and a look round. Met a lovely American girl on t...
Triumph T140v * New Zealand Ruahine Ranges -4k - 33 mins 021123 CS WB35T45
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Please remember to 'Subscribe' and click 'Like' to my videos. Thank you. @DaveWhellersVintage Spring has arrived here in New Zealand and its a good time to get the old girl out of her wintering mode, and get back on the road. I hope you like my video of the Manawatu Ruahine Ranges which climb over 1800m or about 6000 feet.
Triumph T140v * New Zealand Foxton Beach , Shannon 33min. 301123 4k -CS WB35T45
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Please help me with my channel and don't forget to click LIKE and Subscribe, Cheers. @DaveWhellersVintage Great ride out to Foxton Beach on a nice warm day here in New Zealand. But flippin ek it was windy and the beach had been well hammered in the night with lots of drift wood washed up, but that will soon be gone thankfully leaving the beach like new again.
TriumphT140v * NewZealand Pohangina Valley 26 mins 4k WB35T45 CS 091223
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Don't forget to click 'Like' to any new videos you watch. Cheers folks. @DaveWhellersVintage A great scenic ride on my Vintage Triumph Bonneville T140 through some totally beautiful scenery in the North Island of New Zealand. It was quite cloudy and a bit gusty at times making riding a bit dramatic,, especially with the 600ft drop off on one side lol. At one point a big Hawk joined on me the ri...
Triumph T140v * NewZealand - Halcombe and Marton Loop 34 mins 4k CS 190124
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Don't forget to click 'Like' to any new videos you watch. Cheers folks. @DaveWhellersVintage I had a great ride out to Halcombe and Marton on the North Island of New Zealand today. Its about 80 miles or 130k, in all including my many detours to look at stuff I often do. The roads up through to Halcom and on to Marton are perfect bikers roads, with plenty of smooth bends and generally a good roa...
My Triumph Bonneville T140v Walk round 20mins 4k 260124.
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My Triumph Bonneville T140v Walk round 20mins 4k 260124.
My Son Joes First Ride on my Bonnie 231223 4k 36 mins
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My Son Joes First Ride on my Bonnie 231223 4k 36 mins
Ttiumph T140v New Zealand Back roads1 23 mins 4k 191223
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Ttiumph T140v New Zealand Back roads1 23 mins 4k 191223
Triumph Bonneville T140 16 amp Alternator Installation NZ4k 171223 45 mins
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Triumph Bonneville T140 16 amp Alternator Installation NZ4k 171223 45 mins
Triumph T140v New Zealand Vinegar Hill Loop 25 mins - 061223 4k -
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Triumph T140v New Zealand Vinegar Hill Loop 25 mins - 061223 4k -
Triumph Bonneville T140 Indicator Audio Alert Device
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Triumph Bonneville T140 Indicator Audio Alert Device
Triumph T140v New Zealand Colyton - 101123 4k, 31 mins.
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Triumph T140v New Zealand Colyton - 101123 4k, 31 mins.
Triumph Bonneville T140 Amal Carburettor - Phenolic Insulator/Spacer Test
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Triumph Bonneville T140 Amal Carburettor - Phenolic Insulator/Spacer Test
Triumph Bonneville T140 The Easy way to Start A Triumph Bonneville Properly
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Triumph Bonneville T140 The Easy way to Start A Triumph Bonneville Properly
Triumph Bonneville T140 How to Make a Cheap Cylinder Head Leak tester and run a test. 48 seconds
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Triumph Bonneville T140 How to Make a Cheap Cylinder Head Leak tester and run a test. 48 seconds
Triumph T140v New Zealand Shannon Loop - 4k 22mins 051123 - .
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Triumph T140v New Zealand Shannon Loop - 4k 22mins 051123 - .
Triumph T140 New Zealand Ruahine Ranges -4k - 33 mins 021123
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Triumph T140 New Zealand Ruahine Ranges -4k - 33 mins 021123
Triumph Bonneville T140v - Fitting a Rockerbox cover engine breather and none return valve.
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Triumph Bonneville T140v - Fitting a Rockerbox cover engine breather and none return valve.
Triumph Bonneville T140 Tricolour ignition warning light. A Simple & Efficient.
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Triumph Bonneville T140 Tricolour ignition warning light. A Simple & Efficient.
Triumph Bonneville T140 Lithium Iron Phosphate battery installation and test. 9 mins
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Triumph Bonneville T140 Lithium Iron Phosphate battery installation and test. 9 mins
Hello brand spanking new subscriber here.(Paul). I know you said you use the permatex aviation form a gasket throughout the bike but do you also seal the cases with it? If not what do you recommend? Thanks.
Hi Yes I use it on the cases as is shown on the engine rebuild video. You must follow the instructions and let it dry off until its gone tacky first though or it wont dry properly when the two halves come together. The secret of getting an oil tight seal is not the gasket seal really, its the flatness of the two mating surfaces. Any bruises on a mating surfaces will keep the parts from coming together and no amount of seal will fix that long term. That's why guys often have a dry bike after assembly but after a few thousand miles its starts dripping. . Some of the old timers I worked with never used any gasket seal at all on the crankcase joints and they got the surfaces perfect. I recommend spending time using engineers blue with the two halves with no engine parts fitted. Put a thin smear of engineers blue around one side. Then put them together and just lean on the top case. Carefully pull it apart again and look for a nice blue line all around the opposite case to the one you put the blue on. At the points there is no blue examine and flatten off carefully with a fine tooth file and pull the file carefully sideways a couple of times along the bruised area. Then using same file with a bit of 800 grit emery, polish the draw file marks out. Repeat. Ive done that on all my bikes and none drip. The gearbox seal is another story though and only a smear of silicone gasket seal on the splines behind the rubber seal before you put the sprocket on will fix that. Hope this helps. Ride safe.
@@DaveWhellersVintage yes it does thank you for your time.
Great video David, about time someone addressed the electric start problems. I'm on my third set of gears and sprag clutches. If you decide to market the gears I would be interested.
Yes I will happily look at selling them after the final trials are complete but trust you understand I will need to make batches of at least 50 to keep the costs down. The bigger the batch size the cheaper the machinist cost drops down too obviously. At that batch size they should be around $400 to $500 NZ (about 200 to 250 quid) each and that includes shaft and my new clutch assembly. All you would need to do is remove your existing shaft and sprag housing and replace it with the new one. You would need to fit the Pazon E Altair Ignition. You can buy the Pazon Altair now and that would help you immediately with your exiting set up of course. With your order just include my name on the order so they will know you want my special program version with coil delay. There are two different size shafts needed and I will need to know if you have the pressed in bronze bush in the crankcase type, or just the plain crankcase like mine. I am confident all the other issues have been addressed and believe what I now have to be a reliable economical electric start, that should be pretty maintenance free. I will let you know how the test went in Part Five of my Electric Start Videos I think it should be ready in around four months. I need to put some serious milage on my prototype obviously before im willing to say its all good.
Great work David. I'm picking that when you come to take it apart again it'll still be working perfect and looking as good as new. 😊
That's the plan!
Very poor show, luckily for you you're at a level who can do this work but there must be many out there with the same issue..
I put a lot of time and burnt a lot of midnight oil designing and getting one made that can stand up to the immense pressures in the gear train. From all the pre-testing ive done on it off the bike its looking very promising, so its now down to road testing.
You can buy most of the components from Harris and LP Williams. The sprag that rotates around the intermediate shaft is only available from LP Williams or make your own like I did lol. The special Pazon Altair with the coil delay program is also available to you now that want that. Just include in the order that you want the coil delay Altair E and mention my name so they know to make one for you.
You can buy most of the components from Harris and LP Williams. The sprag that rotates around the intermediate shaft is only available from LP Williams or make your own like I did lol. The special Pazon Altair with the coil delay program is also available to you now that want that. Just include in the order that you want the coil delay Altair E and mention my name so they know to make one for you.
You can buy most of the components from Harris and LP Williams. The sprag that rotates around the intermediate shaft is only available from LP Williams or make your own like I did lol. The special Pazon Altair with the coil delay program is also available to you now that want that. Just include in the order that you want the coil delay Altair E and mention my name so they know to make one for you.
I am interested in the modification to the Pazon ignition, I am about to fit an electric start to one of my Commando's, my question is does the modification mean the kickstart can not be used if the coil doesn't spark for the first 3 compression strokes. I would want to retain the kickstart just in case.
When you order the Pazon you need to ask for the special E version Altair, if necessary mention my name to Andy. Kick start works fine as it ignores the first or second pulse which is enough to avoid kick back obviously. I always put mine to TDC now before kicking and its fine electric or kick start. On the Tridents and TSX ES Bonnies and one 850 Commando I once worked on years ago, I just used to put a simple coil delay timer on for 1 about second that had a switch to turn it on and off so you could select electric or kick. That worked fine but sadly vibration used to destroy the relays so needed to change them every six months. It worked fine but for that. No more wrecked starter motors or bendixes on those lol. Hope this or these ideas are of use. Ride safe.
Choc block? Great job and great to see it all come together.. ES makes such a huge difference I'm saddened those in charge at the time never saw the future even when it was staring them in the face..
Agree its not that hard really. I have designed a new stronger sprag as well that's in part 4 and will put that up on here soon.
You can buy most of the components from Harris and LP Williams. The sprag that rotates around the intermediate shaft is only available from LP Williams or make your own like I did lol. The special Pazon Altair with the coil delay program is also available to you now that want that. Just include in the order that you want the coil delay Altair E and mention my name so they know to make one for you.
As the last Bonneviles' like the TSS etc being an afterthought the ES add on is bit of a carbuncle sadly. I can see the need and it's welcomed by us oldies but it sure ruins the overall look. This one at least looks well engineered (far better than the original tbf)
Thank you I spent two years working on this and the parts are fairly easy to find off the shelf. I have redesigned the sprag and upgraded the lubrication to the intermediate gear also. That's in part 4. My knees are kaput so it was a case of pull my finger out and make something that works and still looks good on the bike or stop riding. This is the result.
You can buy most of the components from Harris and LP Williams. The sprag that rotates around the intermediate shaft is only available from LP Williams or make your own like I did lol. The special Pazon Altair with the coil delay program is also available to you now that want that. Just include in the order that you want the coil delay Altair E and mention my name so they know to make one for you.
I love the look and practicality of the screen. So I've just added one to mine. It's a Givi 34 if anyone else wants one.
Yes they work much better than most guys and gals imagine. Its important to release the screen clamps after the first week and reset them I found. Avoids over stressing the Plexiglass. I re check mine every 6 months after that. Mines been on over 8 years now with no problem and its much nicer to ride with it on. Good luck with yours.
The older model DID 530 VX with a pin length of 23.3mm is more likely to fit without modification if you can track one down.
Possibly but as there no longer available generally its a bit pointless for me to make a UTUBE advice or upgrade video about that one. Using the larger chain as I have is no hassle, and the modification work is very easy to do and takes no more than 15 minutes to do if you have the engine out. Hope this helps.
You can’t beat the sound of a old Triumph, I love my 1968 Daytona, wish we got your weather over here mate 🏴🇬🇧👍
Are the carb studs long enough for these spacers or do you fit longer ones?
I got a friend of mine to make mine but believe you can buy them from Amal. You can use the std stud if you leave off the o rings and compression cones for the o rings.
I got a friend of mine to make mine but believe you can buy them from Amal. You can use the std stud if you leave off the o rings and compression cones for the o rings.
I noticed you have really thick spacers between the carbs and manifolds. Did you put slightly longer studs on it or was there enough threads on the stock studs to make it work? I've been wanting to put the 5mm spacers on my 78 T140, but when I tried it there was only a few threads sticking out on the studs. I was worried it wasn't enough.
I got a friend of mine to make mine but believe you can buy them from Amal. You can use the std stud if you leave off the o rings and compression cones for the o rings.
This is great. I've been searching for the best instructions. There isn't much to go on but this definitely makes it clear.
You're very welcome!
Thanks for the ride! I like this bike and sounds great!
Glad you like it!
Really impressed with the sound quality of your videos 😊 and the clarity. I wonder if the windscreen helps your mic pick up the sound of those stock silencers so well. My first road registered bike was a 78 TR7RV and I replaced the stock silencers with dunstall copies and they stilldidn’t sound as good as yours😂 You’ve obviously done some nice fettling to this engine as it runs extremely well 👍🏼
I spent over a year developing a microphone that could work at over 100mph with no wind sound, its not as easy as people may think to get this sound quality.
I found it possible to loosen the foot peg nut to allow for the foot peg to droop down. Essentially you're loosening it to the point where the locating Peg can be pulled away from the frame. Makes it a lot easier to put it back together
In addition to my oil pressure problem, now mostly sorted, but my final leak is the oil being pushed up the wires and sleeve from the primary chaincase to the regulator and being deposited at the back of the crankcase. On close inspection you seem to have extended the sleeve and covered it in heat shrink plus some thin cable ties. How far back have you extended it? You are very proud of not having any leaks so were and how have to terminated the sleeve. I'm inspired to get a long tall Givi screen by the way.
I use silicone on the rubber o ring seals that fit into the back of the primary. I also put silicone in the seal from the inside then I push the assembly together. Its a very messy job but worth doing. You must form an oil tight seal at that point and not try to fix it higher up the cable. I use the shrink wrap just to make it tidy and add protection to the cables, it cannot stop oil. The screen simply makes a big difference on the air pressure on your chest when riding allowing you to cruse comfortably at high speeds.
@@DaveWhellersVintage I've put heat shrink and 2 small cable ties at the back of the primary chaincase and right upto the push in connectors to the regulator but not using any silicone. After about 100 miles it seems to have done the trick, but I'm concerned at your remark about the silicone ,not using it further up the cable.
Sorry dont understand, is this a question?
Is this in Australia?
No
I have a 1977 t1040 and live in Dunedin NZ. Where can I get one of these please?
I got mine from Dick Smiths online years ago. This one is abt same spec as mine. Duratool LCD Display with Backlight IR Infrared Thermometer Temperature Gun. The Phenolic Spacers are from web site --- www.britishmotorcycleparts.co.nz/ up in Auckland. $97. Hope this helps.
Great video, so helpful, doing a restoration on my 76 T140v and it’s my first. So everyday is a school day.
czcams.com/video/rBdrSw1N9Fc/video.htmlsi=kPrFZXhG-5uZQPq- It seemed rather long winded. Id rather three good swings from cold. Starting is at the three minute mark. 👍
This was made to help novices mate so of course its long winded.
You turn the fule off it runs out of fuel and it does a couple of spits and stops so why would the engine suffer happens plenty when people run out before they hit reserve happened to me a few times over the years and never had an issue ...
Ive done the same as you and ran the float chambers out before putting the bike away. But this time something was different. I think the mixture become weak and with the bike forced to run at high rpm it just heated up real quick as the mixture weakened, the temperature rises obviously. Thats my best guess and the evidence is plain to see on the engines internals. You can even see the melted copper head gasket in the bores. . I wont be turning my fuel off again.
A properly sorted and kitted machine, nice bike!
Ironically , without the 'tickling' (choke instead) that's pretty-much how I start my W650. My other bike is unfortunately Only electric-start (all bikes should have a kickstart !) I also kick it over a few-times with fuel and ignition-off first, to get the oil-around as starting produces the-most damage in engines . You can do this on electric-start-only bikes when they are cold at-least , by turning them over until the oil-light goes-out 'Then' activating choke . Dave
That's close-to the style of riding I enjoy on my 82-XV1000 (TR1 ) Dave
I live on that road , 2nd-tight-bend after the one-lane bridge , got me early-retirement when my bike-shop-ass-embled front-end burst ! You have to watch the South-end of Hunterville, often a speed-camera parked there , catches a lot of people out . There are a lot of nice-rides around these-parts . Where did you source your front-disc from ? Dave
I got the new disc from Britishmotorcycleparts.co.nz -- up in Auckland.
I know they had faults, but that sounds like a bike!!
Cheers🙂
Exelent video, thanks for not ruining it with music. Man,...you make her work hard😊 at some point i thought she was going to explode. Cheers mike (Netherlands)
Na shes very happy at high rpm and runs well up to 7k with little effort since I had the crank dynamically balanced.
@@DaveWhellersVintage I know it wasn't breaking a sweat because my ' 70 Daytona 500 4 speed ran at high RPM extreme amounts of time. Clean oil is all...
Looks like you got close to the ton there? 🙂
The ton is no problem and gets there pretty quick. I took her up to 111mph one time on a private flat road with no wind. Speed maxed and measured on a gps. She was still pulling and it was me that bottled out as the screen was getting flattened with the wind pressure. I dont make a habit of doing things like that though lol.
Excellent stuff.
Thank you . This was the last ride of the year. Shes in wintering mode now tucked up in the workshop for next summer.
@@DaveWhellersVintage you've been great this year!
Question: It looks like the crank roller bearing races were removable, why did you not seat the race first then put the cases together?
Lining up a C2 bearing in the crankcase housing whilst holding the crank vertical all at same time is almost impossible if you put the race in the housing first. A C2 bearing is a very close fit as it was explained in the video verse the C3 bearing. Doing it the way I have done it is very easy. If you use the three piece roller bearing kit you can seat the housing in the crankcase first but its still a proper fiddly job even then. Personally I prefer the two piece bearings as it all slots together beautifully as long as you heat the case up above 90C. This temperature is most important or you will never get the bearings to slot in cleanly. Hope this explains it for you.
Each manifold that attaches to the head has a nipple where the crossover balancing tube attaches. Could you hook a carb sync manometer style tool up to those two nipples then fire up the bike and balance the carbs while it's running like you would with an old Honda CB? I never see people do that, so I'm assuming there's a reason for it, but with my 07 Bonneville the carb sync nipples were on the manifolds, so it seems like it could work.
If you want to use manometers then you will need to disconnect the balance pipe between the carbs. Use two manometers, one on each carb individually to balance your carbs for fine tuning. I doubt you will improve on the performance however. Lots of effort for very little reward in my opinion. On Honda fours using manometers is the only way to do it, but on these old twins its very easy. You must still do the mechanical part as I explained on the video first to set up your cables and carb stops. After this just fine tune with the idle air screw to get the best rpm. Hope this is of use.
Lovely job, I can see myself fitting an ES kit as I get older and my knees get bad. I’ve had a 78 750 Tiger for many years and I’ll never sell her! She’s completely stock other than an external oil filter. The crank case has never been split so I’ll have to go in there at some point and clean the sludge trap. She’s not a particularly vibey bike but I’d certainly consider getting the crank balanced, did you find it made a difference??
Hi yes I would recommend getting it done dynamically but not statically on a balance bed, or the old way as some call it. Dynamic balancing Is not cheap but the difference is astonishing. Knowing what I learnt with this I whish I had done all my other Bonnies I have had over time. Until I had this old girl, which will be my last bike. I never experimented and every thing went back as it came out of the factory. Mine ticks over with hardly any vibration at all and at 3000 and above, shes as smooth as any jap bike. I would also recommend fitting a Pazon Altair Ignition system. The difference between contacts / Boyer up to the mk4 and even the new Trisparks is also amazing. Anyway its up to you and its all personal preference.
My old stamping grounds. The bike sounds great.
Good video - just wondering how you deal with the chain rubbing on the tyre? With the standard chain it’s only a few mm off my tyre as it is, with this mod it would definitely be making contact.
Straighten your chain case dead straight and run 100x90x18 tires. This leaves a full 5mm gap between the chain case and the tire sidewall. It may be possible to run a 110x 90 x 18 but ive never tried that. The 100 x 90 x 18 works perfectly and has been used by many Bonnie owners for many years because they work really well on the bike, in fact the orientation between front to back is much better, as you are not moving the centers as you lean the bike over on corners. I often have the bike over on the pegs and shes confident and stable on bends and under hard braking .I run Avon Roadrunners. I have added this to the description on the video and apologies for missing this bit out of the video. Well spotted and hope this helps.😄
Wicked, Dave! During the first few minutes I thought I better tighten my buttons or something. Wow! The sounds of shifting thrills I get from all the sensory input at that bird's eye view never stops... Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video thanks! Did you blind off your choke cable port on your carbs? I didn't see a second cable coming from the top of your carbs. Been considering disconnecting my own chole. Do you have a few good advice on doing so? Cheers from Denmark.
If you have mk1 Amals then yes the tickler works fine on its own. Remember to remove the choke slides and blank off the top of the carb top. You can buy brass blanks from Amal to do that. I just use a stainless cap head screw with an o ring to form a seal and held in with a bit of silicone. The fumes will rot away the silicone over time but it lasts more than a few years so its no issue. Hope this is of use.
Running well :-)
I suffer shock when you actually encounter another vehicle on the road haha! Unfortunately here in the Uk as you know this only happens at 5am on a summer sunday! I envy your empty roads, I have to get out of the city to go on a ride.
5million people in a country a bit bigger and a lot warmer than the UK = no traffic lol. Im from Yorkshire originally and I don't miss the traffic at all lol. Ride safe mate.
This is what I dig about my life. I had a '72 Bonneville 750 that looked a lot like this featured machine. 7:15 Right there he says," There's the old girl... she's chugging well!" Let me tell you,In this New Zealand dreamworld where this ONE Superpower 750 ryder is King, I can only virtual Adventure short segments at a time. This is so intense for me. I'm just not tough enough for this beautiful Terrain with such a dream bike nostalgia! I want to keep tuned and train myself. Please keep them rolling from DaveWhellersVintage.
Thank you your most welcome. Plenty more to come before I take her off the road in May for wintering till next summer.
Thank you for posting this video, very helpful. I'm building my dream Bonneville for my 60th birthday always wanted one. Thx again BTW I'm a new subscriber so keep the videos coming.
Glad I could help!
Have a question When you installed your electric starter, did you install a brass bush in your casing for the sprag gear? @@DaveWhellersVintage
@ood1134 Hi mate no I used my own design and used a fixed intermediate shaft with everything rotating around it. The cases are too weak to have rotation and the electric start forces all applied on just a 1/2" shaft all at once, so I just bored out the sprag and fitted a bush and then fixed the shaft in place basically. The sprag then rotates around the fixed shaft. You should also buy a 'PAZON Altair E' electronic ignition system. I got Andy there technical manager to re program it so the engine starts rotating before the coils energies to prevent any kick back, which destroys the sprag. Its freely available but you must ask for the E Version or just mention my name. I still have mine on test at the moment but once im satisfied it all works well together, then I will post a full video of the new starter design on here for all to use if the want. I am putting 5000 miles on her to test and will then dismantle and check everything over. Ive done 3000 now and all is good so just a bit more to go. There is a partial report you may find of use if you join the FB group T140 OIF Classics. I am a moderator on there. To find the article just search electric start and all will be revealed. Hope this is of use mate.
Thank you so much Dave, youre one smart cookie. I look forward to watching your findings regarding the 5000 mile breakdown report. I must admit I was very surprised to learn after looking how that sprag works, crazy and rubbish design. I'm sure your design will turn out much better. I purchased a Tri-Spark E I Anti kick back from Map Cycle hope that one works as well, I will check. May I be cheeky and perhaps temp you into making a second modified Dave design Sprag setup for me? Obviously charge me accordingly I could send you a new sprag. If not no worries gotta ask. Sent a request to T140 OIF Classics, Thx for your time Dave appreciate your input @@DaveWhellersVintage
@@stevewood1134 I am happy to supply any parts but only after I am satisfied the modifications are performing out on the road. Reliability is the target I have, and hope to have a full video and parts available in a few months. Unfortunately my house move has slowed the project down and do apologies for the frustration this has caused.
Nice, which model powersports battery did you use? thx in advance..
Go to the video I made of my last engine rebuild. In the description for the vid is listed all the equipment upgrades I now use. I also made a specific vide in my maintainace Play List that has all the videos relating to specific maintenance jobs with details in the description for each video.. Here is a link to the lithium battery one for your convenience mate. Hope this is of use Don't forget to click like and subscribe please on them. czcams.com/video/ZWplZCHhi4c/video.html
If you look at the description on the video it has all the details in there mate.
If you buy Lithium then you need one with at least 250cranking amps if you have electric start. You MUST get one with BMS or Battery managment system.
Thank you Dave @@DaveWhellersVintage
The kind of thing you need when you don't want to maintain adjustments, I believe. Not that I knew that terribly well but I learned now.
These old bikes live on TLC and I get more enjoyment working on them than riding them, but having to scrap endless chains for over stretch in such a short time is just a pain. So I did something about it. Whish I had been more active modifying the bikes to be more reliable with longer range when I was younger lol.
Thx for making this video plus your other ones too. I'm restoring my 78 T140v and will need to assemble the engine so before I do that I'm going to carry out your X ring mod. Thx again M8
Remember you are only grinding off a few mm for the extra width of the chain and to mark out the chain run on the casting before grinding. Its very quick and easy to do. Once done put the chain on the sprocket and check you have the 4mm of clearance all round the chain run. That bit takes longer to do than the grinding but its important to to do.
Just a note that you need to use 100x 90 x 18 tires. 110x90x18 may be possible but never tried those. The 100x90x18 leaves a full 5mm gap from chain guard to tire side wall. The is no loss of performance using these tires. I use Avon Roadrunners.
Thx, I've just installed 110 80 x 18, when I laced the wheel I used the max offset so hopefully that will help, there appears from looking at the wheel in the frame to be just enough clearance for the xring chain. I'll have to wait until I bolt my engine in to be sure. I have assembled some some of the bike I'll post a picture on FB shortly. I use Avon's too.
Where is that?
Palmy to Balance Bridge
Manawatu New Zealand
Sir you should not be drinking vinegar I don't think Sir! 💁🏼♂️🥛
Why not?
Had a prime opportunity to measure the weight difference between the two. After all, you paid for the nice drillings! And.... further mega weight saving is to replace the OE caliper (aka boat anchor) with an alloy Girling.
Yes I could have measured the weight difference, but with tech this old is a few kg going to make any difference if im just riding it for fun mate. My own wt changes more than that each month lol especially at Christmas lol. Some things are just pointless, and as I said this was the only disc I could get hold of here in NZ without paying an arm and a leg for it. With the new sintered pads the braking is probably three times better now than before, so in my book that's a total of only $200NZ or 100quid, of very well spent money. I could have spent a couple of grand with twin discs and calipers and light weight calipers. But would that be much better than what I have now. I think the difference would be splitting hairs now.
We know the weight already, since we know the volume of material removed as well as its density