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Stalingrad is a beast. I often take it into Clan Battles, where it can bowtank for days. Just don't get caught broadside.

6:15 I think the chkalov just did an insanely early drop and those are the torps from it

Thank you for taking your time to discuss each of these ships in detail. Tier lists are always nice to get some idea what to dream of getting, but you are the first person I've seen who really explains what makes each ship unique and how it's played.

Hi bro, me again, what Dd you recommend me to buy with i want mix fun, damage, spot, and high DPM? I was looking for Groningen, but i didn't like the detectability of 7.9km im a new DD player, but liked the idea to farm credits with premium DDs, its funny playing them

My DD Vampire T3 is a Rare Ship, never gets mentioned. Must be extremely Rare.

Yeah once subs got into the game it went to shit real fast, real sad :(

I have a Belfast and bought it on first release. One of the best investments of my life. 😂 Easy mode in t7 ranked.

OMG!!! How much money did you spend on this game?!

Thunderer not bronkenely op ? Damn... I do not agree at all

Remember, Black Alaska and Black Massachusetts are available once a year.

I think they buffed Asashio torps so they now can hit cruisers.

Me waiting for Smaland auction: 💀

First.

It still worths? (Buy to 201k of coal) July 18 of 2024

Yami was my 1st grind 8 yrs ago. The line is so much fun. The reward is the Yami.

Lower tier CVs not that bad. T10 CVs are a nightmare to deal with. Fuck subs, there is nothing fun about fighting subs. They are faster than dds, the ping marker is never where they are, they can go completely undetected from most ships, most plane based bombers can't reach their max range. It's horseshit.

just give carrier players theyr own mode where the can fight each others.

Everyone wines about cv spotting but a lot of cv don't even want to do it and when you go into a battle your whole team is crying cause you are not consistently spotting for them I think it's dumb they should just make it so only the cv will see them when they get into attack range but then you will have so many people crying cause they can't see anything once it's gone to me the whole issue with spotting is people Don't realize u can't see nothing without planes in game cause been for ever since they played without it.

Guys enough is enough lets play something else i am fed up with cv hate and cowards . Cvs are fine the way they are in fact thera already enough counters like smoke , stick to the team , aa that never misses kiil the aa to avoid detection and turn to evade me personaly i will play modern warships were cvs are respected . Cvs cannot spot and blided basicaly a disabled ship not fit to fight deoending on dds A USELESS PEACE OF CRAP.

Funny thing about Patrol fighters, next time you boot up the game hover over them. I am not sure WHEN Wargaming added this bit of information but you can see INFO on the Patrol fighters now, THEY HAVE A 5 SECOND DELAY BEFORE ATTACKING!!!!!!! What the ACTUAL FUCK! This 5 second delay is for both DEFAULT CV fighters and SHIP fighters..... and you wonder why they are so fucking useless. CVs can at least take that 4 points skill (the name escapes me...... the one in the bottom right corner of the skill tree) where the planes take longer to SHOW UP, but have their time to attack slashed in half and they stick around longer, brings it down to 3 second I think. Guess what the NEW CVs have with their NEW Combat Air Patrol Fighters? 3 seconds base.... Yes really. New "support" CV lines quite literally power creeping the OLD "Attack" CVs lines. 5 seconds feels like an ETERNITY, 3 seconds feels almost instant, and if that 4point skill works on Support CV fighters as well, then that's like 1.5 seconds. Which is basically instant.

Spoiler: no But jokes aside. See, RTS carriers were bad as hell... Yet! They were 1. rare 2. able to counter each other. So, in order to get dunked by CV you have to get two rare event occurred at once, CV game + CV skill issues exclusive to your team CV. And even then, defAA and good AA in general could've helped you. So, only thing WG achieved with CV rework is making worst case scenarios a slightly bit better, while every other CV encounter become both more frequent and much worse.

You're talking about a world war II game that CVs that never run out of planes. You could list on one hand the ships that have effective AA. Carriers are for players who can't play other ships.

Chaotic and exaggerated presentation in the first place. If WG castrates CVs lots of people will stop to play, because their investments and joy is going down the toilet.

It won’t matter people that play wow always complain about anything that doesn’t go there way

Historically, and I realized that history and this game have a little to do with each other, one of the primary uses of planes in this era was on patrol to provide spotting.

Whatever they do they need to prioritize player agency. The reason most players hate carriers is because there is very little agency against them, you can't pivot and pirouette against a CV that has even a moderate amount of skill, and even top 1% players will have very few options. You can't "get good" to alleviate the problem, and that's a huge issue. After that, you have the balance issue. There are ships in this game that rely on stealth for survival, and once a CV is in play stealth is completely out, so shame on you for picking a slick torpedo DD instead of a snarly AA gunboat. Minimap spotting solves the stealth issue, and provides further impetus for support ships that aren't just DPS. Further, they could stop dumbing down the mechanics to the point of absurdity, and help with the player agency / skill ceiling issue. Why not let a ship with defensive fire set their aim for flak clouds (using the map, like dropping ASW planes)? Why not reintroduce light RTS elements like assigning fighters to escort certain targets instead of staying static? This gives further interaction to the CV as well, allowing for feinting maneuvers and harassment prods to break the defense - that's player interaction and it's good for the game. Then there's playing the damn things. Why are we treated like imbecilic children that can't maneuver a ship with secondary controls while in flight? If you can aim a laser in a Mech Warrior game, you can do this. Automated damage control, automated sub attacks, immunity to detonation and fire (on a type of ship historically vulnerable to detonation and fire). Magical plane factories as well. Maybe a middle-ground where you need to select which type of plane is replenished and you only get that type? At least in the RTS version you could play an AA cruiser and enjoy some degree of usefulness.

Did my last comment inspire you to talk about good old RTS times? xD Imo the next "rework" is just a CV nerf that won't change CV fundamentals like the RTS->Action rework did. The talk about Atlanta's AA is interesting, where there used to be a kind of dichotomy between ships that have AA and those that don't. Ships that had AA (and built for it) were no-fly zones, whereas the ships with bad AA were free food. It's up for debate but I think it's actually a good thing in a team-based game like WoWs. Having ships specialized in certain aspects give purpose and cultivate teamwork. Your BB has no AA? Okay, but your Atlanta over there does, so go and handle their BB while Atlanta covers you from CV. It's a simple example but I believe it gets the point across. Nowadays it feels like ships have all kinds of AA power but it essentially boils down to "how many planes you'll have to give up to strike me", instead of whether or not you can strike them in the first place. The decision goes from "Do I have a chance to strike there?" to "How many plane am I willing to give up for a strike?". Also the removal of player-controlled fighters is terrible, CVs are now incapable of helping their team fending off enemy planes. About old (premium) ships getting obsolete, there's nothing new about this. Powercreep has always been an issue and it will always be with WG. Even in the "oh-so untouchable" CV class. RU CVs were specifically desgined to take advantage of every single mechanic introduced by the CV rework and to ignore its limitations. 1 strike squads means they are basically immune to fighters since they ignore unarmed planes, as soon as you start the drop sequence all of your planes are fighters-immune, even on their way back. They also circumvent the vulnerability of planes after a drop that all other CVs have to deal with. When you're done striking a target, your other planes in the squad have to hang around and get blasted by AA while you reposition the squad for another strike. And even if you don't, and press F to recall, they are way more likely to die on their way back because a "F recall" and "End of strike recall" are very different. RU CVs aren't concerned by any of this, irrefutable proof of mechanical powercreep. Also, jet boosters add insane value in time-to-target because of how often you have to takeoff in modern CV. The addition of "tactical" squadrons (which are all but tactical, ironically) is yet again a system that bypass several core CV mechanics to make it thoughtless. Don't worry about losing your planes, you get a full shiny new batch in 2mins. Don't bother planning a route that will preserve them, they'll just leave and never come back. Anyways, I have little to no hope to see any meaningful change from WG, they have proven again and again that they aim to make the game as casual-friendly as possible and neuter any kind of decision-making (auto-consumables lol), while also removing a lot of teamplay aspects to make the experience "individual" (See how modern CVs forces a tunnel vision between you and your target). To me it looks like WG caters to the casual tomatoes in random battles that just load up a ship and mindlessly go pew-pew with the shiny ship, and in the process completely destroys the experience for players that used to enjoy the teamplay and competitiveness of the game. We all know exactly why they chose this part of their playerbase, sadly :)). WG is utterly incompetent at balancing, and they KNOW IT. Just look at the restrictions in Clan Battles. SS/CV are ALWAYS banned because they know they CAN'T balance them, and they even have to make overly convoluted restrictions to ships because they can't be arsed to properly balance them. I just wish I could slide in an alternate reality where WG isn't in charge of WoWs, maybe then I would go back to it. As it stands now, WG doesn't deserve a single penny nor second of my time. This feels bigger than a forum post now, sorry if it's a bit of a massive read.

Cvs blinded ? No thanks i don'd play disabled impaired i will play modern warships.

A little bit too late for such revelation, don't you find?

Thank you for bringing up the playerbase factor, I agree cv are pretty game breaking as the rest of the community but most of the playerbase just whine without learning any counterplay

Bro there is no balancing carriers... they are just as powerfull irl.... no wonder entire task forces are built around them...

imo they could make carrier balanced if they reworked them so you just control the ship and drop planes like depth charges or gouden

Those torpedoes hit Encounter literally 4 seconds after you dropped them into the water. Encounter has rudder shift time of 14 seconds and turning circle of about 800 meters. So no, there was very little he could do to avoid being hit. Which is why he didn't even bother to try.

I mean can we all agree WG should have never REWORKED CVs, oh btw THEY ARE DOING IT AGAIN for the SECOND TIME, im nothing will go HORRABLILY WRONG and somehow make things WORSE then they already are. And why did they do it? Console releases..... I have no doubt at this point. RTS CVs where by no means perfect, but for god sake at least CVs had stuff to do besides SPOT DDs and Farm Damage. Like ya know.... defend your team from the ENEMY CARRIER with your own fighters! From my own XP the only thing that was totally OP about RTS CVs was dropping 2 manually dropped Torpedo bombers in a criss cross pattern, since CV torpedoes seemed to do the same damage as DD torpedoes back then. Of course their was also always that A HOLE CV player on the other team that would be like "you don't get to play the game" and nuke you at the start of the match. God forbid they put in any effort. The "Action" style CVs just SUCK for everyone involved, CV gameplay is BORING and No one can stop you. Fighter Squadrons are useless both on Ships and Dropped by CVs, they only shoot down X number of planes rather then the whole squadron (cus reasons), and even then you can just DODGE them. Also, as a Carrier, if your team SUCKS their is nothing you can do anymore to turn the match around. On the flip side, if your team is Dominating, you are barely going to do any damage cus everyone dies before you can lay into them. (may as well go hunt the enemy carrier at that point) While it is nice that "cv sniping" is heavily discouraged, the only reason that is case is cus CVs have CAP FIGHTERS! Once the CAP Fighters are gone the CV is just as vulnerable as any other Surface ship even with their Excellent AA. And for reasons only known to WG (probably because they are running out of ideas), they are trying to push CV gameplay on to EVERY ship type. I have no doupt their will be Japanese Premium sub with Airstrikes, or maybe the whole Japanese Sub Line will have Airstrikes.

No they shouldn't be

How does Immelmann rate among other CVs? Looks like it's skip bombs are worse than Nakhi's and torps are not great either. No other weapons available.

CVs are fundamentally broken since the infamous CV rework. Their gameplay is incompatible with the rest of the game. They are impossible to balance as well, with how things are surface ships just get bullied, but if you start buffing AA or giving accuracy penalties with DFAA, CVs quickly become unplayable and unfun. I believe there is no middle ground, as the lack of interactivity between the surface ships and the CVs mean there is little to no skill involved in any given encounter, making it impossible to give a fair chance at outplaying for any party involved. I won't deny that RTS CVs had issues, but they were, imo, in a much better state and interesting. Could they one shot someone across the map in very specific circumstances? Sure they could, like many BBs can actually. But they had several limitations, such as limited plane reserve, takeoff/landing/servicing timers, overall slower squadrons, and the inability to keep continuous pressure on someone like current CVs do. DFAA had purpose, AA builds actually worked, and they were not as frustrating because of how slower the pace of CV gameplay was. In current day CV, if you're not striking 24/7 you get bored very quickly. I could go on for so much longer but WoWs has proven too many times to be a lost cause :(

It's impossible to balance carriers, the very principle of a PLANE is to go fast anywhere. When you include this in a game where SHIPS go 30 knots and take 30 seconds to turns, it cannot go well. It's simple as that. You cannot balance something that has INHERENTLY the upper hand. And if you nerf them too much they become useless, but if they has the slightliest of power, then they become OP. And it's the same thing with subs, they can't fit in the game, period.

If they are that OP why the population of CV players is lower than the Sub players in NA server?, I don't know how is in the other serves.

Alle beschweren sich, wenn es historisch nicht korrekt ist. CVs sind aber auch in echt die stärkste Klasse, also ist es immerhin mal realtitätsgetreu

Mechanically, I prefer carriers to subs. I think cv’s need a damage nerf across the board and mini map only spotting. If they did that, they would be a pretty balanced class. Subs need to just go. As a BB player against a sub, you just have to run and hope you can get an island between you.

I'm kinda new to the game, i got Midway and Yorktown, i still don't understand how you aim your green reticle above the ship and still hit!?? and you also sometimes aim with torpedoes bombers behind arming distance and still your torpedoes arm in time!

As carrier user as well i would said CV and hybrid are strong​ against​ lone ship like flanker but get torn to shred if ppl stayed in group​ I want more dept to the gameplay​ like controllable fighter so i could cover my team, or be abke to change attitube of my plane like high ceiling have slow speed cant spot but safe from small caliber​AA but take more damage from high caliber AA or a need to change a ceiling in order to attack first like torpedo bomber need to gone down to low attitube made them vulnarable for AA fire but it need to perform inorder to drop torpedo, And made CV hardest counter to DD but made cruiser is hardest counter to CV by increase its AA range and potency of its AA while BB and CV should couter each other

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I always get bad mm in this bote

How about a video on ships that are actually available in game. both of your top choices can't be purchased anymore without extreme luck in super containers

Making it look easy :3

4:38 you can feel that inside of you so satisfying

I'll never understand why a Essex player would not put interceptor build, losing one of the strongest point of the CV. It's like DD player not putting point into extra hp... madness..

What do you thing of the upcoming cv changes myself i will qwit the game and play modern warships there cvs and subs are RESPECTED.