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SO as far as heating, it does get pretty warm when worked hard. Because my rig is all wood I don't get the benefit of a metal rig to act as a heat sink for the base. I do though have the base mounted to two large pieces of aluminum angle and this is how it attaches to the wood rig. The metal I suspect helps give it some heat sink mass, plus allows the base to be open more to the air. I think what could help is more airflow such as a computer muffin fan. But it has never over heated and the ONLY time I have ever lost FFB was do to the LMU application not working with MOZA pit house properly. Otherwise NEVER had an issue. I did though on my Fanatec CSL DD frequently lose FFB intermittently. I have alot of respect for Fanatec and they are certainly going through a challenging time right now. I genuinely hope they can get it all worked out. But for a premium price I felt they didn't meet expectations as a customer. Other than that I LOVE my MOZA gear and have been very happy. Since that video I have moved the SIM to a new room and added a simpush flag box and lap timer... SO COOL... I need to do a video on them..

Thank you for your reply! I would love to see your updated rig.

Thanks! There was a couple times in this race where I came around a corner and a stopped or spun car suddenly appeared in my window... in these slippery events definitely have to keep your head!

lol noonoo...I have so FEW wheels.. but I am super happy with what I have got. That being said Id love to try some other brands out.. you know.. if any vendor is looking to get a product review... just saying..

There is an app you can run after the race to watch the entire replay. Unfortunately right now there is now way in LMU to watch the entire replay. I record the replay via streamlabs and then edit the video into my pov in post process. It’s not too hard to get the replay app to work but takes a little practice. I would just look on CZcams for the LMU replay app and there are already a couple great videos on it. Good luck!

@@rickswanracing3139 Thanks for the tip, and keep up the good videos! I watch them while I'm working...lol

Thanks and very much appreciated!

Hi! I can take a look but to be honest I don’t think I changed anything outside of the settings I ran for ACC and iracing. Although I have the Ffb maxed for LMU when I run the gte. Regarding telemetry sadly no I can’t get it to work on the Moza yet. I have the FSR and can’t wait to use it for prototypes but won’t until Moza updates their system. It’s in beta now I believe so just a matter of waiting it out :(

What would you consider a “budget” rig? My frame is 2x4 wood, the cage is pvc pipe, the roof is black cloth, and the displays are cheap Walmart tablets. The single most expensive piece in the rig is the seat which arguably is a budget race seat. I’d say “budget” is subjective in a way. What would be the threshold for what you would consider a “budget” immersive rig?

@@rickswanracing3139 When I said rig I'm taking it all into account. Triple monitors, really nice wheel, pedals etc. I guess I didn't realize you were just talking about the cockpit itself which is a great way to go. (Mine's $40 of2x4's and some ply with a free car seat. Wheel and pedals traded for a old bike.) All of your setup together comes off as anything but budget. 😂(Take that as a compliment!)

Oh for sure, and I totally get your point! Mine has definitely evolved over time. I know for myself I just couldn’t afford to get a metal cockpit, premium FFB setup, high end monitors, etc. That combined with a desire to build kind of set me on my path. When I am on the forums and I see people talking about getting into SIM racing I always say… look.. get what makes you happy… get what you can afford… build whatever you can within your budget. I have only ever tried the Fanatec CSL DD and the MOZA gear.. Both are great but arguably for the money.. hands down I recommend MOZA. Very affordable and loaded with features. My original triples were very budget monitors and worked OK… but someone could easily go with a large smart TV if they have the space. And then as you mentioned…going to a salvage yard and getting a cheap seat out of a car for like $35 is a PERFECT way to start.. and likely more comfortable. Just shake it out for mice before bringing it home. There are so many ways to get started and race on a budget. The goal of my video was to promote creativity and fun on a budget . But yes I concede… my rig has grown and evolved. lol IN the end JUST HAVE FUN DOING IT! :)

@@rickswanracing3139 Oh ya I agreed with 90% of what you were saying and the important part is having fun! Even the Moza stuff is not really budget for everyone. (R5 bundle is more than a mortgage payment for example. Let alone the cost of rent for younger kids these days to afford some of this stuff. 😳) I would also tell someone new if they had the money for it it's a great place to start.) Suppose at the end of the day the term 'budget' is fairly subjective. 🤣Sorry if the original post came off as a little aggressive. I was caught off guard by the I'd imagine thousands of dollars of gear and thinking the whole thing was 'budget'. Very much enjoyed and appreciated the chat! Sub definitely earned. 👍

Thank you so much! I genuinely appreciate your comments. I am using the MOZA KS, the MOZA FSR, and occasionally a DIY BMW GT3 wheel i printed and built. The KS is a really great all around wheel in my opinion. I have had zero issues with it and it is very comfortable. It’s flexible enough that you can use for both GT and LMP racing, albeit I prefer to use the FSR for the LMP racing as it’s a little smaller and has the built in screen. Right now MOZA users are waiting for MOZA to update their software to accept the LeMans Ultimate data for the telemetry to work so I am forced to use an external display for the LMP. It’s a little bit of a pain but I understand that it takes times to make updates and I need to just be patient lol. But for now the KS works great for everything except maybe rally and road car simulations, for those I would recommend a round wheel. If I could make a wish-list for MOZA I would love to see them make a U shaped GT wheel similar to the Porsche , Audi, or BMW GT cars. If you ever have any specific questions on my cockpit build please feel free to reach out to me!

Thanks!

Thanks! So the display is operated via Simhub and I believe the design from racedepartment. The housing and mounting system is my design and contains an arduino board to run the lights, and then a Walmart brand ONN tablet for the screen. I also have an LMP style light bar that I run when I run my MOZA FSR wheel with the display built in. I design, print, and sell these so if you are interested PM me :)

@@rickswanracing3139 i have no idea how to pm you, but i am really interested in all of that

Thank you so much! I am constantly trying to think of new ways I can increase immersion … on a relatively low budget. For me half the fun of it is just brain storming ideas and then trying to think of ways to craft the things in my vision. My goal is for the viewer to do a “double take” when they see one of my videos and question whether it looks real or is a sim. I definitely have some improvements to make such as improved monitors and few other smaller things on the list. AS well not all of us have the opportunity and luck to be able to place our butts in a legit GT3 or LMP for time on track so for how this is the best I can do ;)

I am using some relatively low end 27” LG monitors that run at 1080p and max out at 75hz. I think its time to upgrade!

@@rickswanracing3139 i have ordered a 32 samsung, hopefully it will work fine)

You know... I thought for sure I had survived turn one.. then out of no-where I got punted lol. Rewatching the replay I was able to finally see how it all went down.

Nice! It seems a lot of people settle into either 27’s or 32’s .. likely depending on budget and space. But I would imagine either of them would work really really well. The only potential issue I could see is if you build a full cage, the bar would have to likely run over the top of the monitor which may make it feel a little too high up. It depends I suspect on how you have the cage attached to the rig and if it’s free standing etc. Regardless I suspect a 32” monitor setup that it would still work just fine and look great. The bezel kits are so worth the money if you can find them as well and do a great job blending the monitors together. Good stuff!

I didn’t actually try other adhesives as I think that that is sort of the concept behind the PMF idea. When I researched it I found that people would use PMF by applying canvas onto wood and then more or less saturating it with the wood clue. The catch is that the wood glue is not entirely water proof. SO they then would use a paint over the PMF. This way there was some structural integrity and the creation of a really water resistant surface. I saw this being used by people for like DIY camper tops etc. I wanted to create structures in the cockpit on a super tight budget and thought that maybe the PMF on cardboard would work and be pretty cheap. I had 3d printers and can do decent cad work but trying to get models and dimensions off from car cockpit components was pretty tough. So I fabricated the base structure by eye and some simple estimates of dimensions, then laminated with the PMF and it was pretty fast and cheap. The downside I will say though is that the card board does OK… but obviously isn’t as strong as a wood panel… but you CAN form it into complex shapes easily. I do though think that you could do a PMF style build using resin or similar.. but then you may as well just go with fiberglass or carbon fiber at that point. The wood glue is cheap, easy to dilute and work with, and easy to clean up being water based. :)

@@rickswanracing3139 thank you for the response, it makes a lot of sense. To reciprocate some helpful advice, I too added Dayton Audio exciters to my rig and tried the little 2-channel amp a lot of other CZcamsrs mention, it was a fire hazard that could have burned my house down, but I caught it when it was thermal ramping before it burst into flames. I scrapped the 2-channel and bought a good used 7.1 Home Theatre amplifier with RCA multi-channel inputs and three USB to Line Out adapters all linked to 4x exciters on the Pedal Plate and 2x exciters in the seat. It’s a massive improvement and safer than those Amazon amps.

That’s for sure! My wife is super patient with me. she said no to putting a real car cabin in the house ;)

I’ve tried a few times to get into LFM but always fall just outside the times. I understand their system and method I just feel it become a little too exclusionary. And to your point I see a lot more recent comments on the quality of race craft dropping for people who did in fact get licensed. So that kind of supports my underlaying argument that just because someone can be fast.. for 7 laps anyway.. doesn’t make them a good racer or having suitable race craft. You see it in iracing as well where people qualify really well.. but the moment you add other cars they can’t manage the traffic. Additionally pace drops off overall etc .

I actually went the route of the Dayton audio bass shakers: one under seat, and another on the pedal box. It's crazy how much information they provide.. and now it's to the point I don't even like driving without them lol.

@@rickswanracing3139 cool hahaha. 👍

If you are trying to stay with the MOZA platform I feel the SRPs with the spring kit are pretty decent way to go for the money. That being said, there are a TON of really great options out there in the market and at a wide variety of price points.

The displays I have on top are custom DIY ones that I designed and 3d printed. The GT style screen uses a 7" Android tablet and an arduino board. I designed them to be swapped out quickly when going from GT to LMP. PM me and I can give you more details if you are interested.

I started cleaning up the prints last night, but I will have to do a little filling and sanding I think. The BMW GT3 took quite a while to do and is 1/10 scale, this Ferrari works out to be about 1/18 scale. I may just need to pick myself up a larger liquid resin printer for smoother prints right out of the machine.

Thanks! Thats some good advice and i will do more research when i get ready to pull the trigger. Next step hopefully is monitors. But once spring comes I have a track car to be working on too so.. have to wait and see which one gets priority :)

Sorry I don't actual have a document, but the actual size of the cage will depend a lot on your rig... how high off ground, how wide, how long etc. I would suggest doing what I did: draw a rough sketch of what you would like it to look like, then go sit in your real-life car. plan on a certain amount of head room from top of head to cage etc. measure the width of your car cabin as the basis of the cage width at the floor, then measure the width at the top across the ceiling of your car etc. length forward and back will depend alot on how you intend to clear your monitors and their size etc.

@@rickswanracing3139 many thanks for your answer! I will certainly give it a go with your suggestions! I'm also going to take some screenshots from within iRacing by rotating the cockpit cam to see how the cage of the Porsche RSR GTE looks like as that is one of my favourite cars.

Thanks! I love my MOZA gear. Waiting on delivery of the MOZA CS V2P so I can start doing some rallying. But the KS is great for GT racing. Now if MOZA would just make a U shaped wheel.. MOZA if you’re listening…just sayin’