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Bow Dry Paddling: How To Stay On Top
All these new high rocker kayak designs make staying on top of the flow so much easier, but the technique behind it is a game changer. Keeping your bow up means maintaining speed, control, and the freedom to quickly change direction. It also means drops and ledges can act like ramps and aid in acceleration and holes don't have to slow you down.
The foundational skills for this video include:
Quadrants: czcams.com/video/1CObcO9IFeU/video.htmlsi=z_Po9DpulwEqUuVh
The Lock In: czcams.com/video/23tX29LUOsc/video.htmlsi=_5BkdEfQ8K_0B-qF
The 5 Golden Rules of Kayaking: czcams.com/video/-9nz6JKcybM/video.htmlsi=9CFhxMYhKURoWvPY
You may also want to check out
How To Boof 101: czcams.com/video/VoQEf9D0ZC4/video.htmlsi=1-qiyB1eVp4PYYGa
How to Lean Boof/Ear Dip: czcams.com/video/5tHBtc0r6bE/video.htmlsi=wQ8GbtGrKp6zip66
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The Hand Roll: How to Roll Your Kayak Without a Paddle
zhlédnutí 13KPřed 7 měsíci
There are a lot of ways to hand roll, and this only includes one or two of them, but my goal here is to give you a foundation for learning the skill on your own using a technique that works. You can also learn with hand paddles and webbed gloves if you need to get the motion down. Just be sure to focus more on a good hip snap (aka knee drive) as a priority. If you're still working on the regula...
The Backdeck Roll
zhlédnutí 30KPřed 7 měsíci
The rule is simple, stay in the box and keep your elbows down. If you do that, the backdeck roll is faster, safer, and better for shallow water and rocks than any other type of roll. In this video, I'll not only teach you how to do the standard backdeck roll, but I'll also teach you a modified version that I've used for decades in some of the biggest, hardest, and scariest whitewater in the wor...
Bombproof Your Roll: Building Rolling Confidence & Reliability
zhlédnutí 12KPřed 7 měsíci
Is there really such a thing as a bombproof roll? The truth is, you can develop bombproof technique, unwavering confidence, and strong reliability with your roll. It never means you're beyond a swim, but the limit doesn't have to be your ability to roll. In this video we'll look at some ways you can practice your roll and build the confidence to stop swimming often and know, that you have a rel...
Teaching The Roll: A video for Kayaking Instructors
zhlédnutí 10KPřed 7 měsíci
With nearly 30 years of rolling specific instruction experience and professional level kayaking and instruction experience throughout three continents, I decided it was time to put together a video for the instructors. This isn't all inclusive, and no instructor will agree with everything, but I can guarantee that it is tried and true, dependable techniques and information. My goal with this vi...
Kayaking Warm Up
zhlédnutí 3,1KPřed 7 měsíci
The top kayakers in the world all have certain skills and regular practices in common, do this warm up every time you touch the water and your boat and edge control will improve drastically. 1. Edges 1, 2, and 3 2. Bow and Stern Smashes 3. Quadrant Drill or Lean Cleans 4. Power Circles and Figure 8s Before you practice, make sure you have down the foundations: 5 Golden Rules of Kayaking: czcams...
Edge Control: Quadrants
zhlédnutí 6KPřed 7 měsíci
Most people think about edge control as just a two dimensional concept, lifting the edges of the boat left and right, but edge control also includes bow and stern control. Quadrants are a technique game-changer that will make your edge control significantly more precise and help you better understand which edges to use and when. In this video, I'll go over the basics of edging, build into quadr...
The Jackson Kayak 'Flow'
zhlédnutí 9KPřed 9 měsíci
A solid look at Jackson Kayak's newest creeking river runner, the Flow. It's a solid replacement of the Zen series, using the best features of the Gnarvana as a base. For reference, I'm 5'8" and 160 lbs at the time of this video and I'm paddling a medium Flow. If you're looking for a deeper dive into the design philosophy and features of the Flow, then check out my Gnarvana review here: czcams....
Stakeout 2023
zhlédnutí 3,1KPřed rokem
For those wondering why the edit train stopped for a moment on Send School, I wanted to share where I've been. I had an opportunity come up out of the blue to go to Stakeout, the ultimate freestyle kayaking expedition. It's where the best in the world go to push the progression of big wave kayaking freestyle every year as the snow begins to thaw deep in Quebec. I'm not an amazing freestyle kaya...
Join me on the Ottawa River for a Big Water Confidence Week!
zhlédnutí 871Před rokem
Hey guys, my cell service will be a bit spotty over the next few weeks and more details to come so please be patient, but I wanted to give you a heads up that I am doing a week or two with Ottawa Kayak School. The Ottawa has large rapids, easy channels, and big pools and warm water so it's the perfect place to work on big water specific skills, transferable skills like hole surfing, using waves...
5 Golden Rules For Kayaking
zhlédnutí 19KPřed rokem
Quick and dirty edit, but whether you're just getting into whitewater kayaking or you're a long time river veteran and looking to raise your paddling game, these 5 golden rules are the fundamentals to get you there. I don't necessarily think these are all inclusive, but when someone asks me what are the most important technique concepts for getting started in kayaking, these are the 5 Golden Ru...
How to Roll Your Kayak - Pro Advice on Rolling
zhlédnutí 77KPřed rokem
With nearly 30 years of experience teaching people how to roll and over a decade of teaching experience in varied environments, I decided it was finally time to put my instructional experience to use in this video. This is not all inclusive, but this is a solid start for learning how to roll your kayak safely, effectively, and quickly. I always recommend working with a qualified instructor for ...
Big Water Technique - How to Paddle High Volume Rivers
zhlédnutí 47KPřed rokem
Despite the common misconception, Big Water doesn't actually mean difficult water. It doesn't directly mean hard rapids. Big water refers to the high volume whitewater found on high volume rivers. Big Water kayaking accentuates the features, challenges and needed skills you would find on everyday rivers and creeks, along with a few new ones. So even if you never plan to run something like the B...
What to Wear Kayaking, especially in the winter!
zhlédnutí 13KPřed rokem
Whew! This a long one, packed with helpful info! Originally, I started this video for just winter paddling, but over time I realized that I had to cover the summer layers as a part of my layering system anyway. This is a TON of information, so give it time and try to follow if you can. Ultimately, a good layering system consists of a moisture wicking base layer, a mid layer for the appropriate ...
The Jackson Kayak Gnarvana
zhlédnutí 6KPřed rokem
My first thoughts and a simple rundown on the new Jackson Kayak Gnarvana. It's more than Jackson Kayak finally joining the high rockered trend in creeking and it's not just an upgrade of the Nirvana, it's a complete redesign from a whole new perspective on what it means to be a great creek boat. Here's my initial thoughts, some initial laps, and some genuine stoke for Jackson Kayak's latest cre...
Waterfalls Part 3 - How to Tuck
zhlédnutí 3,3KPřed rokem
Waterfalls Part 3 - How to Tuck
Waterfalls Part 2 - Freefall Skills
zhlédnutí 4,4KPřed rokem
Waterfalls Part 2 - Freefall Skills
Waterfalls Part 1 - An Introduction to Waterfalls
zhlédnutí 9KPřed rokem
Waterfalls Part 1 - An Introduction to Waterfalls
Z3 vs Nirvana
zhlédnutí 1,3KPřed 2 lety
Z3 vs Nirvana
Dealing with Fear
zhlédnutí 20KPřed 2 lety
Dealing with Fear
Every kayaker needs to see this! (Surfer's Ear)
zhlédnutí 8KPřed 2 lety
Every kayaker needs to see this! (Surfer's Ear)
The Forward Stroke (AKA How to paddle straight) - Whitewater Kayaking
zhlédnutí 37KPřed 3 lety
The Forward Stroke (AKA How to paddle straight) - Whitewater Kayaking
Follow me on Instagram @BoydRuppelt
zhlédnutí 3,6KPřed 3 lety
Follow me on Instagram @BoydRuppelt
Easy Kayak Backpack - from my old channel
zhlédnutí 4,6KPřed 3 lety
Easy Kayak Backpack - from my old channel
The Lock In - How to kayak boily whitewater and squirrelly rapids
zhlédnutí 23KPřed 3 lety
The Lock In - How to kayak boily whitewater and squirrelly rapids
How to Boof - Whitewater Kayaking
zhlédnutí 20KPřed 3 lety
How to Boof - Whitewater Kayaking
How to Lean Boof & Ear Dip
zhlédnutí 10KPřed 3 lety
How to Lean Boof & Ear Dip

Komentáře

  • @StevenHerron1972
    @StevenHerron1972 Před 11 hodinami

    Hey thanks for making these videos. Have been paddling rec boats for a few years and I'm moving into whitewater boats. Trying to make sure I have the right strokes to be successful

  • @Quick-Silver206
    @Quick-Silver206 Před 19 hodinami

    This started as an experiment for me but now I'm legit studying it. Thank you for the video!

  • @roblinsjr01
    @roblinsjr01 Před 3 dny

    Great tutorial

  • @MatthewTimmerman-yw9wg

    Thank you so much. I left my roll in a shuttle vehicle a while back and couldn’t find it. A couple of things you said made sense and helped get me out of these bad habits. A big one was leaning too far forward! I don’t know how that became my position but it was breaking my roll. I owe you a beer if you are ever on the Eagle river. Cheers

  • @MatthewTimmerman-yw9wg

    Thank you so much. I left my roll in a shuttle vehicle a while back and couldn’t find it. A couple of things you said made sense and helped get me out of these bad habits. A big one was leaning too far forward! I don’t know how that became my position but it was breaking my roll. I owe you a beer if you are ever on the Eagle river. Cheers

  • @DejanSmaic
    @DejanSmaic Před 5 dny

    Glad you made this video. It's something I've been doing more the past year, and automatic this season. Soo good!

  • @xcreekarchery1
    @xcreekarchery1 Před 5 dny

    "while obviously not a good forward stroke" feels like im being directly called out, and we've not even paddled together 😂

  • @laurensturdevant
    @laurensturdevant Před 5 dny

    Great video! I was just learning this at Paddle School this year. Jet ferrying across the current at Three Chutes on the Hiwassee I noticed how dry my bow was as it climbed up and over the whitewater. Thanks for posting about this more in depth!

  • @dangerjudy5334
    @dangerjudy5334 Před 5 dny

    Great tutorial, thank you Boyd!

    • @CleanLineKayaking
      @CleanLineKayaking Před 4 dny

      stoked you like it! 🤙🏻 weird more people don’t directly teach it, but it’s what you ultimately learn if you river run a lot in a playboat or full slice.

  • @user-xm3iy6ht1z
    @user-xm3iy6ht1z Před 5 dny

    Hey man! You're the perfect teacher. I love your videos. You asked for ideas. 🙏 I see the lock-in as the necessary beginning of "wearing your boat" (as opposed to sitting in it). The other part is what one does when locked in. Kayakers need to acquire conditioned responses for stabilizing which allow them to deal with turbulent water flow around their boats without necessarily having to explicitly think much about it. I think that kayakers need to relegate a part of their brains to the task of stabilization. Core muscles (for boat edge, balance, and for transmitting the power of strokes), and a complete repertoire of strokes (including draw strokes and hybrids with other strokes and with brace) can be somewhat relegated to the background of the brain. With that skill he can have very good automatic responses in turbulence and he can also better think higher level thoughts, such as where he's trying to go, etc. A person can practice relegating stabilization skills to the background by intentionally dwelling a little in squirrally water (foregoing hard forward stroking through it), as he dares. He can also find times to challenge himself in flatwater (including pool sessions) by just using the back of his brain to throw imagined situations at himself, intentionally losing balance with various body positions, etc, and responding with strokes & braces. Maybe you have other/more ideas.

  • @seanhogan563
    @seanhogan563 Před 6 dny

    These videos are great, I'd love if you could do something on down river tricks, how to nail kick flips, splats, rock spins, blunts ect.

  • @simonwyndham
    @simonwyndham Před 6 dny

    As one coach put it to me once, look for the high points. I love the sweep boof technique. One thing though, too much edge combined with not getting the boat straightened up to ride over a feature can result in a beatdown on some strong seam lines and holes, particularly as a light paddler. I won't tell you how I know that... 😂 Great video as always!

  • @forestkan6653
    @forestkan6653 Před 6 dny

    Whoa, just what I’ve been figuring out lately. Watching the pros had me notice a lot of them almost sweep boofing over holes and pourovers. This is a great tutorial that helps me conceptualize the quadrant idea. Thanks!

  • @georgewilliamssr5230

    Very well explained and demonstrated.

  • @beenwithalowercaseb19

    you could also just buy a high n' dry rolling aid. makes you skip out 10 times better 👍

  • @willm6705
    @willm6705 Před 6 dny

    very helpful !!

  • @myfelicidade
    @myfelicidade Před 6 dny

    Having taught the roll myself to numerous people, I can definitely say that all the key details to learning to roll are given here, good job !

  • @AllHandsMechanic
    @AllHandsMechanic Před 14 dny

    You have mastered the way of teaching.... excellent video.

  • @joshuaannabelle
    @joshuaannabelle Před 19 dny

    Your video explains alot about how I feel. I recently went on a trip and was feeling scared of what thos river might bring, as I put on my spraydeck the fear went and the focus and joy started. I'm sharing this video. 🤟

  • @anuplama4242
    @anuplama4242 Před 24 dny

    Wow nice activity

  • @camlong96
    @camlong96 Před měsícem

    Does anyone know what wave is shown at 2:32?

    • @CleanLineKayaking
      @CleanLineKayaking Před měsícem

      bus eater rapid on the Ottawa's main channel. That wave is the one that turns into mini-bus 🤙

  • @spencerm5913
    @spencerm5913 Před měsícem

    Where do you put your feet/knees? Do you want your knees kinda locked in under the lip of the cockpit?

    • @CleanLineKayaking
      @CleanLineKayaking Před měsícem

      yup. To fit well in a kayak, you want your feet firmly placed against the braces and knees bent and tight, but still comfortable, under the cockpit. You want your hip pads to be tight and supportive, but comfortable and without poking into your hips and your backband tight enough to provide support but low enough to be out of your way and loose enough to allow for movement away from it. The kayak should fit like a glove, but also be a comfortable glove.🤙

  • @ozramblue117
    @ozramblue117 Před měsícem

    Tucking forward is for whitewater kayaking where rocks and other hard obstacles are in the way. It keeps you from bumping your head against them. Ocean kayaking is a different kettle of fish.

    • @CleanLineKayaking
      @CleanLineKayaking Před měsícem

      tucking forward kills your roll in all kayaking- this is a whitewater channel- but rolling dynamics are the same with both. The best way to avoid rocks is to roll faster and that means focusing on proper technique by not tucking forward when you roll. This roll technique also works in all kayaks

    • @ozramblue117
      @ozramblue117 Před měsícem

      @@CleanLineKayaking thanks for reply and info. It’s been decades since I used to kayak and just getting back into it now.

    • @CleanLineKayaking
      @CleanLineKayaking Před měsícem

      @@ozramblue117 welcome back! 🤙

  • @ScottGoode-ip2sc
    @ScottGoode-ip2sc Před měsícem

    Tough to demo boats out in UT curious about the flow Lg. I’m paddling mostly 3+,4 lower volume rivers with the occasional high water runs. I’ve been using a superhero for these but wishing for something a bit more modern with rocker profile. Super hero is stable and nimble though so it’s been a fun boat. I’m 6ft 3in 225 lbs and a bit of a reactive paddler. Is the flow Lg the way to go or should I be considering the Gnarvana? (I’ve got a Nirvana Lg that I love for bigger water)

  • @maxk5134
    @maxk5134 Před měsícem

    Channel is awesome man! I have never gone kayaking, but just bought my daughter and me some new ones and we are going to start learning this summer and hopefully make it lifelong thing. You are one amazing kayaker brother! Super inspirational!! Hope to see some more vids soon!! 👍

    • @CleanLineKayaking
      @CleanLineKayaking Před měsícem

      Stoked you guys are getting into it. More beginner content on the way too. Thanks for watching!

  • @Shiwwy
    @Shiwwy Před měsícem

    Need your help sir, I have a 3m crossover kajak...what kind of roll would you suggest for bigger boats?

  • @markholmes2130
    @markholmes2130 Před měsícem

    Hey Boyd. I’m a new subscriber and really enjoy your videos. I have a disabled friend/student who has been trying to learn to roll. She is actually a great paddler upright but has limited control of her legs and hips so would have to rely on upper body strength. Could you advise on how we can adapt something?

    • @CleanLineKayaking
      @CleanLineKayaking Před měsícem

      Welcome and thanks! I have a friend that's a paraplegic kayaker; I'll ask him. I know Jackson Kayak made him some special outfitting for better boat control and he rolled fine... there's a method of hand rolling that works well where you cross your arms over the cockpit and roll with the top arm while pulling the cockpit rim with the bottom arm- it would likely work with your friend and is described in the hand rolling video. I'll reach out to my friend and see if I can get some info from him 🤙

  • @juani_norte
    @juani_norte Před 2 měsíci

    Great info and demonstration ! I think Most of this rules also apply to sea kayak.

  • @comic8124
    @comic8124 Před 2 měsíci

    I DID IT!!! After weeks and weeks of rewatching your advice I was final able to roll my Scorch… my buddy then let me try his play boat and boom straight up. Probably the technique I’m guessing, but is it easier in a short boat? Thank you and hope you are well.

  • @mikebos4882
    @mikebos4882 Před 2 měsíci

    1st: thank you for the video. I've paddled for many years, initially canoe and then kayak. Took chances, looking back that were foolish and got away lucky. I have never seriously considered learning the roll until I happened to click on your video. From your video, I learned things that I never realized before but after watching your video, several times did you change your set position when sitting on the dock and then when you were upside down in the water did you change to the right side? I going watch again because I'm not sure I am getting it. Or maybe watch a different video.

  • @brettanie._
    @brettanie._ Před 2 měsíci

    I just want you to know I appreciate your videos. I started boating last year and watched them before but yours are the ones I'm looking at now that I'm getting a better understanding and continue to progress. You're also my go-to to share with others. I appreciate the depth of your explanation and slowing down your video shots to really see what's happening.

  • @powhoundus
    @powhoundus Před 2 měsíci

    Great tips! I’ll add a few more: 1. In the pool or where ever practicing, instead tossing someone around, do bracing drills. Stand behind them and try to flip them randomly to one side or the other. After a few random braces, flip them too hard to brace so they have to roll up unexpectedly. This accomplishes 2 things - it teaches someone how to have a reflexive and rock solid brace, and it teaches them how to roll when flipping unexpectedly. To randomize L/R, have them always do a half or full roll so they are rolling on both sides. This is how I taught my daughter to have a solid brace and bomb proof roll on both sides. 2. The usual cause of roll failure is head lift or leading with the head. It’s nearly impossible to roll with a fully committed head lift because you are pulling on the wrong knee to lift your head. When you see someone rolling up barely and doing that. Do not congratulate them on their sloppy roll. I see that way to often, the “any roll is good” BS. Nip that in the bud and save them many future swims. To end that once and for all, encourage to always look at the rolling blade regardless if they can see it. If the head is turned towards the rolling blade, they won’t lead with it. 3. Once you learn to roll, don’t practice in the setup position, ever. You never flip on the river set up. Practice setting up with every roll. 4. Acclimate to the water so you don’t freak out when you flip on cold days. Do practice rolls at the beginning of the run and a few spots down the run regardless of conditions. You will have a much better chance of nailing a roll if you do that.

  • @jakebrakebill
    @jakebrakebill Před 2 měsíci

    any tips on how to keep from getting dizzy or kind of seasick while doing it ?

  • @johnrflinn
    @johnrflinn Před 2 měsíci

    A classic ledge hole is in the middle of Lava Falls.

  • @jerihozey1480
    @jerihozey1480 Před 2 měsíci

    My kayak pulls to the left

  • @SubParPaddler
    @SubParPaddler Před 2 měsíci

    Great informative video, can i add something, if youre using the side of the pool, i wouldnt recommend the pool side being any higher than a couple of inches above the water as this can lead to shoulder injury, especially if youre getting on a bit in age and or you hardly use your arms/shoulders in every day life. I did my rotator cuff in whilst practising on the side of the pool, the pool side is about 4-5 inches high and it put too much strain on my shoulder due to the higher angle. I would much prefer a student to use a pool or paddle float for the hip flick practising if the pool side is high. Another thing is that you do not really mention about opposite leg, i reckon stamping the opposite leg will lower it and very much aide in the flick :)

  • @Wookietet
    @Wookietet Před 2 měsíci

    Hey dude, just getting into kayaking at 46 and im fortunate enough to have a best friend as a seasoned instructor, like you hes calm and really good at explaing situations and what and how to deal with it. Your videos are so well thought out and presented, so clear and well broken down into stages. the rolling ones satiated some fears i had (yet to get in the pool) but made it look obtainable. Thank you for your efforts in explaining stuff realy well.

  • @williamrichmond8237
    @williamrichmond8237 Před 2 měsíci

    How would this do for overnights? Does it have enough volume for 4-7 day trip?

    • @CleanLineKayaking
      @CleanLineKayaking Před 2 měsíci

      really depends on how much you weigh relative to the max weight range. You could definitely do it and it would likely be good, but I’d rather use a Gnarvana for that. 🤙🏻

    • @williamrichmond8237
      @williamrichmond8237 Před 2 měsíci

      @@CleanLineKayaking word thanks! I'm 5'8" 145, so on the lower side

    • @CleanLineKayaking
      @CleanLineKayaking Před 2 měsíci

      @@williamrichmond8237 plenty of volume for you then 🤙🏻

  • @NChillbilly
    @NChillbilly Před 3 měsíci

    One of the best roll videos I've seen. Well done.

  • @jimfromoregonusa9899
    @jimfromoregonusa9899 Před 3 měsíci

    Excellent!

  • @user-lr5pk1kq2m
    @user-lr5pk1kq2m Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you!!!

  • @dennisfox8673
    @dennisfox8673 Před 3 měsíci

    Awesome video! I wish I would’ve been able to see this before I wrenched my back and possibly ended my time paddling. Having said that, I only realize now that I have a little more time on big water than I ever thought, mostly at Sturgeon Falls and Whitemud Falls in Manitoba; and a few short stretches of a few rivers in Minnesota at very high levels. The Canadian stuff is straight out big water at 40-60k cfs (if I remember correctly) with huge beautiful standing waves great for endless surfing, but when the time comes to leave- especially at Whitemud you inevitably run about a 2/3 mile stretch of big waves with a few holes and no rocks anywhere and you need to approach it in the manner that you describe. A bunch of it comes down to coping with features that are reactions of water-on-water. I totally loved my trips there, but knowing these tips and just being consciously aware of this mindset would’ve made things almost sublime. A great video that brings up great memories, and who knows, I might be out there putting this to use yet! 🙂

  • @outdoor_safe4outdoor
    @outdoor_safe4outdoor Před 3 měsíci

    rhank you for your video

  • @leoburns9674
    @leoburns9674 Před 3 měsíci

    It is a great series of videos… However… What if the kayak is longer i.e. a 17 sea kayak? I would love to see your video and a longer boat ! 😊👍

    • @CleanLineKayaking
      @CleanLineKayaking Před 3 měsíci

      same technique applies. I’ve used with a JK Journey and a small open canoe (savage Skeeter)

  • @kayakreflections9987
    @kayakreflections9987 Před 3 měsíci

    Any hints for how you might use someone in the pool to help learn this roll? I seem to have the sweep down but somehow to position of my body is inhibiting the hip snap. I get about halfway up then fail.

  • @johnrflinn
    @johnrflinn Před 3 měsíci

    Could you recommend 3 dry suit brands? Not sure about the cheaper made in China suits. Would rather pay more for something that would last.

    • @CleanLineKayaking
      @CleanLineKayaking Před 3 měsíci

      top brands to look at are NRS, IR, Kokatat, Level 6, HKO, Sandyline, Palm, Peak UK, and Sweet. Used is okay if you’re careful, but care and maintenance is important. 🤙🏻

    • @johnrflinn
      @johnrflinn Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks! I went with Level 6 as they have a 45% off sale. @@CleanLineKayaking

  • @shenanigoon2K
    @shenanigoon2K Před 4 měsíci

    Hell yeah! I used the window wiper today and nailed most of my hand rolls, thanks for another awesome instructional

  • @shenanigoon2K
    @shenanigoon2K Před 4 měsíci

    Every time I watch this I get a little more out of it, seems like you have a bit of a sculling finish. Still struggling with it on my creeker but it's coming along. Thanks Boyd!

    • @martin.feuchtwanger
      @martin.feuchtwanger Před 3 měsíci

      I learnt both front- and back-deck rolls. For many years WW kayaking, i'd use back-deck more often, and, i agree, there's a bit of high-brace sculling to finish the roll. These days i do much more sea kayaking and do 'conventional' rolls. I guess i should try more back-deck rolls in my sea kayak.