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Under 20 minutes is impossible without a major new skip. Lowest possible right now is gonna be 21:1X using strats no one can pull off rta, so more realistically best possible is 21:2X.

@@logicpq6884 I’ll try to figure something out (I’m not very smart but I’ll try)

@@logicpq6884 I think we need to think of how to skip bosses (mecha birdo would be impossible to skip

@@therandombacondrip mecha birdo unfortunately is the only known skip-able boss that kid might be able to do. See Dot kid wr for method that kid could potentially use

@@logicpq6884 I think only vic viper could skip mecha birdo

Anything just under 1 hour is an excellent beginning time

@@logicpq6884 that’s my normal time I can’t do Tetris skip wily god cycle and graveyard skip

Real

Dude i honestly don't know 😭

Earlier that stream, I noticed a small crack that was in the spacebar and thought "has that always been there?"

Vic viper can fly, but dies upon touching walls, ceiling, or the ground. Boshy has different physics, mostly preventing him from jumping horizontally far. This means boshy can't do certain skips like Tetris skip. Owata doesn't have a second jump, but rather has a cloud that he spawns instead of jumping. He also jumps higher and has weird physics as well. Dot kid is the same as kid but much smaller.

Thanks

I was also wondering how you even do most of the skips, and the one im struggling on the most is the tetris skip. I am struggling because i go left BEFORE the block goes to where i want, commencing my demise. So id like some help here. Any tips?

(also i play on remastered)

Tetris is a surprisingly simple skip, but it relies on the first jump being frame perfect. I'm going to make a video very soon going over tetris in depth. Quick tip is to check the frame that we are jumping at, we do full jumps for all jumps on this screen, then try to mimic the movement to jump off the Tetris block. You can also leave some type of mark on your screen where you need to jump if that helps.

@@logicpq6884 Thanks for the help!

I explain how to download the game near the beginning of this video: czcams.com/video/vwwMaJ169NY/video.html

thanks, and you play very well

I haven't really thought of that tbh. I don't see how that's much different then just vic viper though.

@@logicpq6884 Well, you could just not care about damage, or basically infinitely fly (but you can fall if you dont spam enough)

​@@logicpq6884 Depending on what you choose.. You could do infinite jump ONLY (so you need to time the jumps to not die and you fall if you dont spam enough or being good to get good time saves) Or god mode (where you can basically just not give a fuck about the damage and get some cool timesaves with it (kraidgrief skip, you can jump through the opening on motherbrain and noclip through the hitbox-less ground) Or both even.

@@logicpq6884 Imo, if you like hurting your fingers, it would be really interesting.

I didn't love the idea at first, but I've come around on it and might actually try this out with kid. Just one run though :)

Two methods: I mostly tense up my forearm and vibrate it on the key for 10-12 shots per second. The other method is to flutter click the button with two fingers. Either way it's pretty hard, but at least flutter clicking is easier on the body.

I can definitely see the argument for that. The jumps between the platforms are easy to mess up.

@@logicpq6884 I’m starting iwbtg Speedrunning

The kraidgief skip is simply done by damaging kraidgief enough in phase 1 to skip to phase 3. If you over damage at the very start of the fight, then it will go to phase 2 immediately.

I wanna be the guy remastered

Definitely on my radar

@@logicpq6884 Be aware of the claw mechanic

I only recently got all the treasures so I’ve been messing around with the options

Each character has their own unique physics. Jump heights are different etc. The real challenge is that the game was designed around the kid, and not these other characters. So it feels harder with the other characters, besides vic viper who is by far the easiest.

@@logicpq6884 what does vic viper make diffrent?

Vic viper can fly, so it just skips most obstacles. The catch is vic viper dies upon hitting the ground or a wall.

@@logicpq6884 oh just like the actual vic viper section (also sorry if the questions annoy you)

Questions are cool. Always glad to see interest in the game.

No doubt, owata is the hardest

@@logicpq6884 impossible owata