سيارة التوارك فيها عدة مشاكل في الصيانة ثمن باهض على رأس كل ستة أشهر ..ويتخلص منها صاحبها بالبيع قبل ضهور المشاكل ..فمثلا بومبة المازوط 15000درهم شين ديستريبسيون على الجهتين 3500درهم الفيدونج كل ثلاتة أشهر 1800درهم وهذا من القليل ..اما الكثير فانهاركم إسود ...
@@johnjohnson999it is as hard as tightening the nut under the neck, better to do it so tight it wont fold anymore, my only real issue with this thing and similar scooters is the front lights, RED halo for a front light? and almost no power whatsoever plus it's an unusable spot beam
Heh wish it was that easy. I've tried unlocking but you can't till the charger is plugged in. Long story short the battery cost a fortune and had to be replaced as it was defective. No support from the manufacturer or Banggood.
@@johnjohnson999 Banggood has a very poor warranty. You have to send dozens of videos, etc. Then they agree to send a new part, but the "postage costs" are equal to the price of the part.
hi from france guys! You don't have a lao ti30 group on facebook at home, where you can find all the tips and how to solve problems with your ti30? First, when you pull too hard on your ti30, when it reaches 58 volts of memory, it's normal, it stops and goes into safety. Example on the dualtrons a beeper warns you that you are in the red, because you are using the battery too much, it is the same on the Laotian but without the warnings of a diode, it is up to you to monitor the voltage and as soon as you go down to 58 volts, go back to eco and single mode. If your scooter is blocked because you have exceeded this limit, open your deck, disconnect the battery, wait 30 seconds, reconnect it and go again. It's logical, 21700 cells cannot be completely discharged in 1 hour, otherwise they are HS. For the most handymen also remove the yellow boxes under the deck between the controllers and the motors, make clean welds and make a connection system by XT150 6mm ... just to avoid holes in the acceleration on the road and fires .. ..
Easy fix. U can see those 4 screws. Those are cheese metal and u can just broke them and replace them with bolt, washers and lock nut. All noises and stem play is gone. Ofc replace the nut under the folding mechanism.
Loosen the nut under the folding mechanism and remove the small bit of stud, then replace it with a M6 110mm bolt and a locking nut - however, you won't be able to fold the scooter anymore after doing this, but the scooter will be solid
I think that there is no problem, because battery is at 0% in 48V, bms can cut off around 51v. When you are around 54-55v and floor it, then voltage drops bellow 51v and bms cuts power. You just have to start it again with charger
Hey man, no offense but its more like user issues :) this is a chinese product, and it is priced accordingly. I suggest to get your hands dirty and thingen up all the screws and bolts with locktite.
Its not a problem , if the voltage its below 51 volts in throttle , the controler shut down everything , and you cannot start enything ! I have the same scooter but named GOGOTOPS , 60V ,38 AMPS, 5600W . Its a little bit weird ..but ..thats it .
@@mariuszmostowski2103 Not yet, it's on hold in the service station - once I have my case resolved in PayPal I'll get the scooter fixed and drop update.
@@johnjohnson999 Did you find a solution? I have the same scooter (Ti-30) and yesterday i had the same issue, it turned off at about 56v and it only turned on again after i plugged in the charger. I think and i hope it is a BMS issue..
@@Gillete13bmsp In my case it will require new battery plus suspension repair. I have the scooter from around 6+ months and around 150km on the clock. Bangood didn't do any support and they have suggested to try replace the battery myself, which is insane as it costs like half of the price. Other silly suggestion from them was to return the scooter not to the EU country I've bought the item, but to China. DHL will charge me around 8k for the request which is insane!
45 is tooo low! Standard is 51.5 and you should not change this parameter! Everybody is crying about bad battery and this is the reason by doing bullshit yourself.
@@quadrometer Not true...looks like you are talking about different electric scooter. This one TI30 (manual as well) shows by default 43V. I've changed to 45V just to see if the random cut off will still going.
There's a nut under the folding mechanism, you'll need to put the scooter on a stand or lay it down, loosen the nut slightly and use some loctite on the thread, then tighten the nut back up You can also remove the stud in the folding mechanism and swap it for a M6 110mm bolt, washer and a locking nut, this will make it solid. Only thing is, is that you won't be able to fold it
If i had your issue I'd figure out a way to drill a hole straight through the latching mechanism and put a bolt through the whole thing to lock it down. don't be too attached to the mentality that this is a foldable/portable scooter. a hundred pound scooter is not something you want to get into a truck by yourself and besides it has enough mileage to leave the car at home also, so you get me. high powered scooters shouldn't fold IMO, folding is more for sub-3000W and last mile scooters that aren't so heavy. I'd like to see the high power scooter manufactures do away with the hinge altogether.
I had this scooter for a day and sent it back. It was my first scooter. I ended up having to dispute the charges after sending it back. They promised a refund too and just went silent after receiving the return.. I ended up getting a Kaabo Wolf King GT and quality is excellent. Sorry you had to go through this. You get what you pay for with these Chinese made electronic products.
Très bonne trottinette, unboxing fait, il faut resserrer toutes les vis en bas de la colonne et celle du lock par en dessous de la trottinette. après que du plaisir !
@@aure3581 je l'ai eue par le dépôt de Pologne. J'avais commandé une t30 , j'ai reçu une ti30. Chance, malchance, je ne la regrette pas. Dans l'absolu peu de différence de prix, mais sur la puissance c'est différent.
I am almost about to buy a scooter from Alibaba, but everybody says too buy one from a known brand like Vsett, Kaboo, Dualtron, Zero, Varla, etc etc... because they say chinese scooters are a waste of money and you'll just be buying problems. But idk... why do you guys think?
Didn't had much chance to drive the scooter (probably about 30km) as the weather is cold out here. Scooter is a beast when it's on turbo mode, but think it's waste of money as it does not look very robust. Time will tell.
I know a guy that has 20.000 km and counting on this exact frame like in the video. I don't know any other scooter besides dualtrons with more kms than that.
I have one off of Alibaba, it's the SH-11 and it is "Rock solid" ( looks exactly like the LAOTIE Land breaker) with more features 5800w (52mph wGPS) 45 AMP controllers,40 Ah LG battery,finger print reader,keys, and alarm.street tires. $1380 total 1 1/2 years ago after 940m still no problems, great "BEAST SCOOTER"!! Don't believe the hype!! almost all scooters come from Asian countries!!
Check that big black but that's on the bottom part of the stem, you have 2 of them 1 goes down and the other 1 up, they are different sizes that require large wrenches like 29mm or 30mm
After 1600 miles, my TI30 is also losing power… like after braking it feels like the back motor thinks the brake is still on and will not go… clicking on both brakes a few times sometimes gets things going again
@@johnjohnson999 It turns out that when I replaced the back tire with a new tire, I also created a short somewhere and the battery compartment . ELV motors Service Diagnosed the problem, fixed the shorts, and we bypassed the automatic .braking system of the Laotie Scooter. That’s system will automatically stop the motors if the brakes are applied. It is a safety feature, but really not needed for people that have done a lot of riding , And it can cause problems when you are going fast and you tap a brake…. So that system Is now bypassed , And the scooter works great again
Hello,mine is doing the same from day 1 also......must be the red thing that locks and unlocks the scooter to carry it.....somehow we have to fix it.....
I've checked and tighten all parts and there were few loose. Also I've put apart the rear suspension and there was missing washer. Use some grease and make sure all nice and tidy and the sound should stop. Can't tell for sure as it's winter here and can't test the scooter, but there is noticeable difference. Good luck!
It is a good idea to tighten the nut, lightly lubricate the parts that rub against each other, and add thread lock to the nut, and ideally add another nut behind it. And then cover the bottom of the hinge area with duct tape to protect from dirt ingress. Some people also replaced the threaded rod with a more robust tempered steel one.
it looks like your laotie has been through some very bad roads or even trails. I think you should buy new parts to fix this at least they are cheap. btw i see your front suspension doesnt work as it should.
@@johnjohnson999 can’t be day one the scooter is very dirty. But you can always contact Laotie and tell them about your issue I’m sure they will help you out.
@@rocketsnail8338 There is no dirt at the scooter except the marks from my shoes? It was driven outside so, you can imagine it's not the same as your home. I've contacted the support and they have send me a video as what needs checking...fingers crossed.
@@PetrolheadBG you may need to change out that bolt under there to a really hard coarse threaded one because those strip easily!!! you may not be able to fold it again but that stem will be "rock solid"
4 vertical bolts connecting the beam to the front fork are allowed. I recommend replacing with M8 strength bolts and tightening the nut. Tried to me and OK
@@zdeneksmejkal1050 I agree, you will have to change out some of the bolts to hard steel, or iron .. the engineering is flawed in the stem area for a scooter this large and fast. and they claim it's good for off-roading from the factory?😁😁😁
El peor patinete Electrico que te puedes comprar. Yo lo compre y es la peor compra de mi vida
سيارة التوارك فيها عدة مشاكل في الصيانة ثمن باهض على رأس كل ستة أشهر ..ويتخلص منها صاحبها بالبيع قبل ضهور المشاكل ..فمثلا بومبة المازوط 15000درهم شين ديستريبسيون على الجهتين 3500درهم الفيدونج كل ثلاتة أشهر 1800درهم وهذا من القليل ..اما الكثير فانهاركم إسود ...
it seems like this scooter has tons of issues 😱
Yup, it's no go out of the box.
@@johnjohnson999 was thinking of getting one I have 2x inmotion S1 brilliant range just wanted something faster
@@johnjohnson999 is that why banggood is now selling it for $999???
@@johnjohnson999it is as hard as tightening the nut under the neck, better to do it so tight it wont fold anymore, my only real issue with this thing and similar scooters is the front lights, RED halo for a front light? and almost no power whatsoever plus it's an unusable spot beam
Your stance is wrong. Riding like that is dangerous
he laughing me: QUE MIRAS BOBO ?
Dokręć śrubę od dołu i nie ma luzu
Thank u very much <3
You have to press the unlock button and flash 3x or unlock 3x and flash.
Heh wish it was that easy. I've tried unlocking but you can't till the charger is plugged in. Long story short the battery cost a fortune and had to be replaced as it was defective. No support from the manufacturer or Banggood.
@@johnjohnson999 Banggood has a very poor warranty. You have to send dozens of videos, etc. Then they agree to send a new part, but the "postage costs" are equal to the price of the part.
problem solved? I have to do the same, 60v cut off
Had to replace the battery by myself, no other option...Banggood refused any support!
@@johnjohnson999 so it's a battery problem? no bms?
@@bartu233 In my case it was the battery.
@@johnjohnson999 have you replaced or repaired the current one?
hi from france guys! You don't have a lao ti30 group on facebook at home, where you can find all the tips and how to solve problems with your ti30? First, when you pull too hard on your ti30, when it reaches 58 volts of memory, it's normal, it stops and goes into safety. Example on the dualtrons a beeper warns you that you are in the red, because you are using the battery too much, it is the same on the Laotian but without the warnings of a diode, it is up to you to monitor the voltage and as soon as you go down to 58 volts, go back to eco and single mode. If your scooter is blocked because you have exceeded this limit, open your deck, disconnect the battery, wait 30 seconds, reconnect it and go again. It's logical, 21700 cells cannot be completely discharged in 1 hour, otherwise they are HS. For the most handymen also remove the yellow boxes under the deck between the controllers and the motors, make clean welds and make a connection system by XT150 6mm ... just to avoid holes in the acceleration on the road and fires .. ..
Same here, tight everything and lube the folding hinge parts
Il faut resserrer tout simplement !
Ciao,come hai risolto? A me improvvisamente è morto,non so come fare
Hi there, i have the exact same problem. Is there anyway to fix that? When you are around 54-55v and floor it it cuts all power
Easy fix. U can see those 4 screws. Those are cheese metal and u can just broke them and replace them with bolt, washers and lock nut. All noises and stem play is gone. Ofc replace the nut under the folding mechanism.
Loosen the nut under the folding mechanism and remove the small bit of stud, then replace it with a M6 110mm bolt and a locking nut - however, you won't be able to fold the scooter anymore after doing this, but the scooter will be solid
I think that there is no problem, because battery is at 0% in 48V, bms can cut off around 51v. When you are around 54-55v and floor it, then voltage drops bellow 51v and bms cuts power. You just have to start it again with charger
and every 60v battery (16s4p) have 0% at 48v and can cut off around 51-50v
@@frantisekkober6005 is to Ti30 only 4P?
Ciao, hai risolto questo problema? Il mio fa lo stesso difetto
Hey man, no offense but its more like user issues :) this is a chinese product, and it is priced accordingly. I suggest to get your hands dirty and thingen up all the screws and bolts with locktite.
Have identical bike, tighten the bearing, and all bolts now and then. Awesome bike, actually. Love it.
This is normal you need to open the screws and then oil all stare parts of the folding mechanism.
hello could you please tell me which oil is needed??? Ed How do you do
@@cgghhhcghbgty2961olive oil works
Hi I’ve just got this scooter and it doesn’t even startup. Anyone knows how to fix it ? Thanks
Its not a problem , if the voltage its below 51 volts in throttle , the controler shut down everything , and you cannot start enything ! I have the same scooter but named GOGOTOPS , 60V ,38 AMPS, 5600W . Its a little bit weird ..but ..thats it .
I've sent the scooter for diagnostics in the local shop, where they are going to do charge/discharge and range test to see what the problem is.
And did they resolved the problem?
@@mariuszmostowski2103 Not yet, it's on hold in the service station - once I have my case resolved in PayPal I'll get the scooter fixed and drop update.
@@johnjohnson999 Did you find a solution? I have the same scooter (Ti-30) and yesterday i had the same issue, it turned off at about 56v and it only turned on again after i plugged in the charger. I think and i hope it is a BMS issue..
@@Gillete13bmsp In my case it will require new battery plus suspension repair. I have the scooter from around 6+ months and around 150km on the clock. Bangood didn't do any support and they have suggested to try replace the battery myself, which is insane as it costs like half of the price. Other silly suggestion from them was to return the scooter not to the EU country I've bought the item, but to China. DHL will charge me around 8k for the request which is insane!
45 is tooo low! Standard is 51.5 and you should not change this parameter! Everybody is crying about bad battery and this is the reason by doing bullshit yourself.
It's 43V by default, so 45V should be better? I'm sending the scooter for diagnostics tomorrow and see what's wrong.
Show at user manual, there is the list with parameters, 51.5V and its not recoment to change
@@quadrometer Not true...looks like you are talking about different electric scooter. This one TI30 (manual as well) shows by default 43V. I've changed to 45V just to see if the random cut off will still going.
I also have Ti30, from dezember 2021
@@quadrometer sure
It is a recurring problem. Apparently it is possible to correct the problem by welding a resistor on the bms. Info to check
Can you give more informations about the resistor welding on the bms?
Mam ten sam problem proszę o pomoc bms
There's a nut under the folding mechanism, you'll need to put the scooter on a stand or lay it down, loosen the nut slightly and use some loctite on the thread, then tighten the nut back up You can also remove the stud in the folding mechanism and swap it for a M6 110mm bolt, washer and a locking nut, this will make it solid. Only thing is, is that you won't be able to fold it
Normal, faut resserrer le boulon de 10 dessous 🤔
Bonjour il te faut régler et graisser tout le système de serrage
Thanks, I've done that but not had chance to test the results.
If i had your issue I'd figure out a way to drill a hole straight through the latching mechanism and put a bolt through the whole thing to lock it down. don't be too attached to the mentality that this is a foldable/portable scooter. a hundred pound scooter is not something you want to get into a truck by yourself and besides it has enough mileage to leave the car at home also, so you get me. high powered scooters shouldn't fold IMO, folding is more for sub-3000W and last mile scooters that aren't so heavy. I'd like to see the high power scooter manufactures do away with the hinge altogether.
I had this scooter for a day and sent it back. It was my first scooter. I ended up having to dispute the charges after sending it back. They promised a refund too and just went silent after receiving the return.. I ended up getting a Kaabo Wolf King GT and quality is excellent. Sorry you had to go through this. You get what you pay for with these Chinese made electronic products.
That's that foreign remanufacturing
All build in China and shipped to EU warehouse as far as I'm aware. Am I missing something?
@@johnjohnson999 nope junk🤣
@@johnjohnson999 ima do dualtron
@@fctryoffetsh39 heh yes...but expensive one!
Très bonne trottinette, unboxing fait, il faut resserrer toutes les vis en bas de la colonne et celle du lock par en dessous de la trottinette. après que du plaisir !
Salut comment as tu fais pour t’en procurer une ? Pas de livraison en France sur Banggood depuis un moment..
@@aure3581 je l'ai eue par le dépôt de Pologne. J'avais commandé une t30 , j'ai reçu une ti30. Chance, malchance, je ne la regrette pas. Dans l'absolu peu de différence de prix, mais sur la puissance c'est différent.
The scooter looks cool, but that sounds it's just annoying 😐
sounds like my knees 🤣
I am almost about to buy a scooter from Alibaba, but everybody says too buy one from a known brand like Vsett, Kaboo, Dualtron, Zero, Varla, etc etc... because they say chinese scooters are a waste of money and you'll just be buying problems. But idk... why do you guys think?
Didn't had much chance to drive the scooter (probably about 30km) as the weather is cold out here. Scooter is a beast when it's on turbo mode, but think it's waste of money as it does not look very robust. Time will tell.
I know a guy that has 20.000 km and counting on this exact frame like in the video. I don't know any other scooter besides dualtrons with more kms than that.
@@slick1908 That's quite promising then. Thanks for the input, can't wait another month or so to do a real test drive!
@@johnjohnson999 yeah, btw the problem you have is fixable, there is a nut under the folding mechanism that needs some tightening
I have one off of Alibaba, it's the SH-11 and it is "Rock solid" ( looks exactly like the LAOTIE Land breaker) with more features 5800w (52mph wGPS) 45 AMP controllers,40 Ah LG battery,finger print reader,keys, and alarm.street tires. $1380 total 1 1/2 years ago after 940m still no problems, great "BEAST SCOOTER"!! Don't believe the hype!! almost all scooters come from Asian countries!!
Check that big black but that's on the bottom part of the stem, you have 2 of them 1 goes down and the other 1 up, they are different sizes that require large wrenches like 29mm or 30mm
Thanks!
After 1600 miles, my TI30 is also losing power… like after braking it feels like the back motor thinks the brake is still on and will not go… clicking on both brakes a few times sometimes gets things going again
Ahh, doesn't sound good at all. Any feedback from the manufacturer?
@@johnjohnson999 It turns out that when I replaced the back tire with a new tire, I also created a short somewhere and the battery compartment . ELV motors Service Diagnosed the problem, fixed the shorts, and we bypassed the automatic .braking system of the Laotie Scooter. That’s system will automatically stop the motors if the brakes are applied. It is a safety feature, but really not needed for people that have done a lot of riding , And it can cause problems when you are going fast and you tap a brake…. So that system Is now bypassed , And the scooter works great again
@@halbiz1 how did you bypass those settings in your p settings thanks
@@garrettosborne9545 just disconnect the sensors
Hello,mine is doing the same from day 1 also......must be the red thing that locks and unlocks the scooter to carry it.....somehow we have to fix it.....
I've checked and tighten all parts and there were few loose. Also I've put apart the rear suspension and there was missing washer. Use some grease and make sure all nice and tidy and the sound should stop. Can't tell for sure as it's winter here and can't test the scooter, but there is noticeable difference. Good luck!
@@johnjohnson999 i got mine this week i got the same problem but worse the screw holding the mechanism snapped in half 🥲
It is a good idea to tighten the nut, lightly lubricate the parts that rub against each other, and add thread lock to the nut, and ideally add another nut behind it. And then cover the bottom of the hinge area with duct tape to protect from dirt ingress. Some people also replaced the threaded rod with a more robust tempered steel one.
it looks like your laotie has been through some very bad roads or even trails. I think you should buy new parts to fix this at least they are cheap. btw i see your front suspension doesnt work as it should.
No bad roads as that's day one out of the box test drive.
@@johnjohnson999 can’t be day one the scooter is very dirty. But you can always contact Laotie and tell them about your issue I’m sure they will help you out.
@@rocketsnail8338 There is no dirt at the scooter except the marks from my shoes? It was driven outside so, you can imagine it's not the same as your home. I've contacted the support and they have send me a video as what needs checking...fingers crossed.
@@johnjohnson999 wish you the best,it’s a very strong scooter you will love it the moment you make it work 🙂
@@rocketsnail8338 Yes, I love the looks and everything about it, just need to sort this silly little issue.
Hi. there is a nut on the bottom of that lever, you tighten it and the problem should be solved.
I have tried that but still the issue persists.
@@PetrolheadBG you may need to change out that bolt under there to a really hard coarse threaded one because those strip easily!!! you may not be able to fold it again but that stem will be "rock solid"
4 vertical bolts connecting the beam to the front fork are allowed. I recommend replacing with M8 strength bolts and tightening the nut. Tried to me and OK
@@zdeneksmejkal1050 I agree, you will have to change out some of the bolts to hard steel, or iron .. the engineering is flawed in the stem area for a scooter this large and fast. and they claim it's good for off-roading from the factory?😁😁😁
i got the same problem till i tight the scews
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