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Registrace 6. 07. 2014
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Salafi (Dawahman) vs Ash'ari Mu'tazili P1
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Debate between Ash'ari and Salafi Dawahman over tiktok #ashari #ash'ari #dawahman #debate #tiktok #islam #jahil #bigbeard #monsters #bighat
Salafi (Dawahman) vs Ash'ari Mu'tazili P2
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Part 2 some say Dawahman ran. others say he CBA. #dawahman #ashari #ash'ari #salafi #debate #islam #longbeard #monsters #scruffy
Wahabis just has no akhlaq, talking over Atsari. Wahabis not able to understand attributes of Allah SWT while made tajsim & tashbih on Allah SWT e.g. talked & hear with sound, see with eyes.
Wahabi Dawahman never answer any question. He made claims Allah SWT has same attributes like creation talk with sound & language. No wonder wahabis became mujassim & musyabbihah.
Wahabi lost his mind, saying that Allah SWT speaks Arabic like creation. Such a mujassim and musyabbih of this Dawahman.
Salafi(Dawahman) have no manners what so ever. I salute the Ashari Sheikh, He has Adaab. Even though Salafi(Dawahman) is literally shouting at him at so many occasions. The Ashari Sheikh is being straight to the point without making non-sense noise
Who is the Ashari Imam? Wowww He seems more calmer and strong in knowledge. "Another claim without proof" Roasted Dawahman
this guy believes that allah ta ala have spoken to Prophets, but not with arabic words. This ist kufr! Allah ta ala have chosen the arabic language.
Someone got slapped in this debate
The ahbashi iman keeps saying that dawa man does not provide proof. Yet he keeps saying that “everything that makes a sound is the creation” and does not provide proof for that, he throws that statement as fact when in reality is his logic Allah is all powerful certainly he could make a sound if he so wished
That’s what the Christians say about Jesus God. They say Allah is powerful to make himself into A human 😂
Wahabi mujasima
Hand is defined as something physical whether thats a body part or pointers on a clock to say Allah has a hand thats not like any other hand is to say Allah has something physical thats not like any other physical thing but the mere fact that its physical means that it is like any other thing. If you argue Allah has an unphysical hand then that is a contradiction because hand is definined as physical. Allah exists outside the physical realm and the reality is unknown so we cannot fathom him so he uses words like hand, foot, face etc as means to simplify to his creation who's intellect is limited.
The goal of mainstream islam preachers with this satanic intention to set up Muslims into salat over an idol of nothingness having no connection to anything. Must stop overlooking and realize that allahs creations are also marks of the attributes(everything driven by electrically as an example) You wouldn’t be worshipping something to this degree that is so incomprehensible unless it was an idol. They are trying to target your faith by using divide and conquer strategy to do it.
Kalam is a speculative theology which was a complete waste of time confusing the masses and created some fanatical deviants. Attari is the continuation of Islamic Aqeeda and make sense to everyone regardless of their level of intellect. May Allah save people from the confusion of the kalamists.
May Allah guide the mubtadis(asharis & maturidis)
Project Noor is on the Haqq. There is nothing similar to Allah. Allah does not resemble anything in anyway whatsoever. Period. Sounds are creations, letters are creations, languages are creations. The Speech of Allah is not like that of the creations. The Speech of Allah is without an instrument, sound, letter, language, beginning, or end. Subhana Allah, it very simple, but Allah is the One Who Guides Whom He Wills. May Allah protect us and keep us steadfast on the Haqq.
Our life is a creation. Allahs life is not a creation.
إِنَّمَا وَلِيُّكُمُ اللّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ الحمد لله ، والصلاة والسلام على رسول الله ، وعلى آله وصحبه ومن والاه ، وبعد :يعني تعالى ذكره بقوله: إنَّمَا وَلِيُّكُمُ اللّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُوا ليس لكم أيها المؤمنون ناصر إلاَّ الله ورسوله والمؤمنون، الذين صفتهم ما ذكر تعالى ذكره. فأما اليهود والنصارى الذين أمركم الله أن تبرءوا من ولايتهم ونهاكم أن تتخذوا منهم أولياء، فليسوا لكم أولياء ولا نُصَراء، بل بعضهم أولياء بعض، ولا تتخذوا منهم وليا ولا نصيرا. وقيل: إن هذه الآية نزلت في عبادة بن الصامت في تبرئه من ولاية يهود بني قَينُقاع وحلفهم إلى رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم والمؤمنين. ذكر من قال ذلك: قال صاحب الضلال رحمه الله "هكذا على وجه القصر الذي لا يدع مجالا للتمحل أو التأول ولم يكن بد أن يكون الأمر كذلك ! لأن المسألة في صميمها - كما قلنا - هي مسألة العقيدة . ومسألة الحركة بهذه العقيدة . وليكون الولاء لله خالصا , والثقة به مطلقة , وليكون الإسلام هو "الدين" . وليكون الأمر أمر مفاصلة بين الصف المسلم وسائر الصفوف التي لا تتخذ الإسلام دينا , ولا تجعل الإسلام منهجا للحياة ولتكون للحركة الإسلامية جديتها ونظامها ; فلا يكون الولاء فيها لغير قيادة واحدة وراية واحدة . ولا يكون التناصر إلا بين العصبة المؤمنة ; لأنه تناصر في المنهج المستمد من العقيدة . . ولكن حتى لا يكون الإسلام مجرد عنوان , أو مجرد راية وشعار , أو مجرد كلمة تقال باللسان , أو مجرد نسب ينتقل بالوراثة , أو مجرد وصف يلحق القاطنين في مكان ! فإن السياق يذكر بعض السمات الرئيسية للذين آمنوا: (الذين يقيمون الصلاة ويؤتون الزكاة , وهم راكعون). . فمن صفتهم إقامة الصلاة - لا مجرد أداء الصلاة - وإقامة الصلاة تعني أداءها أداء كاملا , تنشأ عنه آثارها التي يقررها قوله تعالى: إن الصلاة تنهى عن الفحشاء والمنكر . . والذي لا تنهاه صلاته عن الفحشاء والمنكر , لم يقم الصلاة ; فلو أقامها لنهته كما يقول الله !
Everything about this debate made me feel uncomfortable May Allah protect us from the fire and make us humble enough to empty our cups in front of Allah and ask him for pure guidance.
ashari mutazili is an oxymoron
Dawah Man got Schooled 😂
Yeah by the Ashari who can’t listen but yap
Thay Ashari was a potatoe ball lol
Much respect for the Salafi brothers for trying deal with him the best way possible but I can see it’s frustrating!
The ashari dude is very arrogant. Anyone that watch this I can’t see how they would take anything from him ! He’s been tapped dancing this whole conversation
Wahabi is the deviants, believe Allah SWT has the same attribute as human. Believing Allah SWT attributes as literal is mujassimah and musyabbihah aqidah. Wahabis is the sect appeared in Najd in 17 century, the same.place fitnah and 2 horns of syaitan appeared. They are the deceiverss who brought a false teaching of Islam.
Dawahman smh, brother you back tracked a few times and avoided and went around questions many times. May Allah guide us all.
Dahwahman proved himself has no akhlaq. Typical Wahabi Salafis.
The Ashari can’t even listen and likes to talk over him, that’s Akhlaq to you, Mashallah.
@@QananiisaaIdriswahabi is the one who didn't listen and talked over Asyaari. Wahabi made so many claims and slanders without any prove.
@@QananiisaaIdrisDawahwan not even able to understand that Allah SWT doesn't speaks in sound & language lke creation. There is nothing like Him. That's why wahabis are musyabbih & mujassim.
Wahabis Salafis is just mujassimah and musyabbihah. They are misguided. May Allah SWT guide them.
Why is the ashari guy so defensive.
Because he's being interrogated?
@21:10 is genuinely so hilarious. 'My friend' 'You are not my friend' 'I'm not even insulting you'
Mutazzalis voice is annoying af "Allahhuuuuu t'aaallaaaaaa" why is ye stretching his words? 🤦♂️
Salafis are wrong on this, they resembles Allah with creation (like sound, face, hands and sitting). May Allah protect us from such Aqeeda ۚ لَيْسَ كَمِثْلِهِۦ شَىْءٌۭ ۖ There is nothing like Him.
lol😂
@@Laymen62 ٱهْدِنَا ٱلصِّرَٰطَ ٱلْمُسْتَقِيمَ ٦
What a ridiculous claim. They are the one who believes Allah how he described himself. The Asharite/Maturidis are the innovators wasted times proving Greek and the philosopher’s God on something that doesn’t have anything to with Islam.
Imran should not debate, the other guy just with his calmness makes imran look silly
Oh let’s not forget when the other guy was talking over Imran or all he was saying was “Audhubilah!” avoiding the questions.
Salahudin al ayubi who conquered the holy land was an ashari & fatih sultan mehmet who conquered constantinople was a maturidi. Allah give these people victory. They were great people in our islamic history but according to dawah man they are not from ahle sunnah wal jamat. How can people even take this dawah man seriously. Hes just causing fitnah, please stay away from him.
How can i find more of project.noor guy?
His CZcams is Evidence and Proofs
this is not an athari this is an ashari atharis are on the manhaj of the salaf asharis are on the manhaj of plato
Since qhen was sound an attribute of Alllah especially in the atharis attributes list
This ashari is not mutazili you who created this title is absolutely disgusting and slandering
I'm not gonna lie dawahman is horrible like I mean downright horrible when it comes to debating this is actually super sad to see he doesn't understand how to form an argument
Does Allah have a Dzat, and is Dzat physical?
How does a number necessity something physical? You can say "I have two plans" You know have two options; 1: You have two physical schematics of the plans, then yes it is physical. 2: You have two plans/ideas in your head, is that now physical? So no, a number does not necessity physiciality, as you can have a number of something non-physical like an idea, plan or mood.
Neither is truly qualified, but Dawah man is definitely not.
Dawah man seems to view Allah as a physical being above the heavens and his speech to be in Arabic. The other brother seems to be saying, if that were the case then he’s resembling the creation, in which case it’s shirk. Allah is the speaker, suggests that Allah speaks a language that is unlike that which the creation speaks, and therefore because we create sound when we speak it can not be the same. As far as transmission goes, Allah hu alm what medium it was communicated/to Gibreal and then to the prophet, but when the prophet spoke it it was in Arabic. So to stere clear of resembling Allah with his creation we say revealed as apposed to he speaks in Arabic
Wahhabism is a lawless religion with blasphemous beliefs
Wahhabism is a lawless religion with blasphemous beliefs
The Wahhabi creed is not on the minhaj(Islam Iman and Ihsan) of the Salaf
The Wahhabi guy is really having a hard time legitimizing Wahhabism 😂
The Athari creed is also referred to as the creed of imam Ahmed who articulated it, and was expanded upon by Ibn Taymiah, they pre-date Abdul Wahhab, so t shouldn’t be attributed to him. This was the creed common. Abdul Wahhab introduced things like istigatha being shirk which was unique to him and can be called wahhabi creed, unlike the subject of this debate
@@lowkey621 ibn taymiyyah and Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab got it all wrong. Let it go
wahabi didn't listen and talked over Asyaari. Wahabi made so many claims and slanders without any evidence. So bad akhlaq and astray.
@@user-in6od4zs6d Yes. The lawlessness of Wahhabism 😔
Just from this Ashri way of thinking makes way more sense, Salfi’s have lost the plot. As far as Tawhid goes they are good, but in some respects they’re lacking biiiiiiiigggggg time. May Allah forgive us. It’s border line shirk, ascribing actual hands, because then it’s like saying he has a affirmative physical quality similar to his creation.
Salafi's are brain washed they're not true athari's. Ahmed Ibn Hanball Rahimmullah says whoever says Allah has a body part thats not like any other body part blashphmes. Dawah man literally said he has a hand thats not like any other hand.
13.25 this munafiq salafi his hilarious. In a breath he says Allah speaks Arabic. But then says He doesnt sound like us. Salafis are fully retarded. Allah has sealed their hearts.
Dawah man got destroyed
May Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala bless the ashari brother
dawahman is soo stupid
Wow project noor had this dawah guy on the ropesss