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I believe it’s the dual sequencer

I think that both Teletype and Norns are probably the best way to get into musical coding stuff. Some great tutorials ("studies") and the community will help you along the way. I came in with no coding experience to speak of and have been able to create some tools that I'm really proud of. The experience is pretty different between the two, thought. Teletype is extremely quick to get into and will have you making interesting things right away. It can easily replace a dozen modules in my case and is great for trying out new ideas. Where Teletype becomes frustrating is when you have a more complex script idea (especially when Grid is involved) and fitting everything into one script becomes like the world's most complex game of Tetris. If you're good at keeping the scope of your projects reasonable-- or just like the challenge of doing impossible stuff, Teletype is hard to beat. Norns, on the other hand, is a total sandbox where you can do whatever you want, including audio. You're really limited by your own ability whereas on Teletype you're limited by your ability + the system constraints. The language Norns uses, Lua, seems really natural compared to the extremely-concise and often confusing stuff that you'll make in Teletype. I dread ever having to go back to revisit my old Teletype code which looks like insane nonsense to me now, but I've taken months-long breaks from my Norns code and had no trouble picking it back up. So I guess I'd summarize this way: if you want to make more complex music tools, do audio/DSP, or build interfaces for Grid, I'd go with Norns. If love modular and are interested in exploring musical coding in a really direct way, Teletype is awesome. Worth mentioning that Teletype is available for free in VCV Rack, with support for a virtual or real Grid. Virtual TT also makes it easier to develop vs the module (which can only connect to a Grid or keyboard at once-- not both!). I'd suggest giving that a try and working through the Teletype studies. You'll know pretty quickly if it works for you.

Thank you very much for your insight into this 🙏🙌 I will eventually try my hand at musical coding.. maybe in vcv rack like you mentioned just to get a taste and see if I like it. Beautiful composition by the way. Cheers!

I don't 😕. But thank you for asking-- that's very flattering. Something I'll have to look into if I ever feel confident enough!

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@@ModularBeatare you higher than a giraffe’s ass?

I count at least... _three?_ body parts (not counting digits, of course) that Mr. Brown has been confirmed to also have for the better part of most of his life. Your move, smart guy.

It’s a stupid post.

TY! Disting EX, Just Friends, Tallin, Belgrad, Mimeophon. Not sure if you take issue with 1U modules or perhaps the modules that integrate with their case's MIDI/audio jacks? I'm not wild about 1U because there aren't many modules that take special advantage of the more horizontal form factor, but it's a good way to squeeze in a few more modules when you don't have space for 2 rows of full-size modules. AFAIK there's nothing stopping other brands from adopting the same features (and some have) so I don't see this as being anticompetitive. More... expanding options. Great thing about modular synths is that we really are spoiled for choice!

What are you talking about? Their cases fit a very specific need among Modular users.

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Yes. Apparently they came in other sizes but this seems good for my desk. It's super heavy!

LOL sorry to ruin the magic. I had just pulled everything out after shampooing the carpet and was in the middle of wiring stuff up. Not normally that wild.

Yeah the big boy is real nice for drums so you can do 16th notes and have immediate access to a whole measure. Drums are still pretty new to me with the WIP script and I haven't really got a good feel for 'em yet. Currently I have it set up so you can scroll up and down to get a full 16 steps out of the 16x8 grid but it's easy to get lost. I mostly use 16x8 and design for that first, though, so I'll keep playing with it and might be able to get it working better.

Pretty sure you’re right

Yup, just sequencing JF. Unfortunately you can't control JF's envelope/duration using i2c/Teletype/Crow.

"The string-like sound is Just Friends to Tallin to Belgrad to Elements. I then created a secondary shimmer-like effect by multing that to Cornflakes to Mimeophon to FX Aid. It was sequenced by Marbles run through Dreamsequence's CV harmonizer."

No, it's doing everything. Teletype+Grid is sequencing Disting EX and I think there is some Mimeophon or Cornflakes.

i mean grid + crow only，is that work？

@@raneflewit6250 Nope. Crow is not a USB host so this will not work. There's a good comparison of Crow vs. Teletype here: monome.org/docs/crow/faq/

@@ModularBeat so i need Ansible？

@@raneflewit6250 Ah, yeah I think that is an option! I have not used one but I believe it's one way to go if you do not want to get into scripting.

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@@ModularBeat Thanks, however I have usb mini-b grid connector.

The keyboard is OLKB Planck. Ableton live has an option to play MIDI using a computer keyboard, which you can send to Norns using a Denki Oto 2host. Keyboards like this can also be programmed with QMK to output MIDI directly but I have not tried it, personally.

Thanks for the info. With respect to the script can I route the midi from chord to one midi device (let’s say midi device 1 connected to Norns ) and sequence to another midi device (Device 2) , I tried changing the voice midi destination but it only show the first midi device 1.1 for both chord and sequence. Please advise. Thanks

@@ajilful Yes, make sure you have configured your MIDI ports in the system>>MIDI menu. If you need to send to different channels on one MIDI port, check out the "Configuring MIDI channels" section here: github.com/dstroud/dreamsequence/blob/main/README.md#preferences

Neotrellis is a good alternative that can save you some $

Thanks! :)

Grid is the OG and still the best. It doesn't do anything by itself so it's all up to whatever device you use it with. 99% of this channel is me messing around with scripts I've made to do stuff with Grid.

Monome Grid and shieldXL/Norns

​@@ModularBeatnice cheers mate I'm using drumbrute impact by arturia

Fortunately I mean the "Key 1" button on Norns which costs 24 cents 😅

#shieldXL by Denki Oto. It's a DIY version of Monome Norns.

You can also use my mod, Combiner, to use 2 smaller Grids together, FWIW. Might actually help keep track of beat divisions, come to think of it.

and very inspiring...

Ayy there he is ✌️

I forgot I laid the groundwork for this in v1.1 so it was actually quick work for a change!

Any MIDI to CV interface should work. Crow can do some handy things like give scripts direct control over envelope shapes or output specific voltages/triggers/gates, etc... but it's not necessary for making notes.

@@ModularBeat oh ok. Very good to know thank you for the information. I was always curious what crow really even did and what the major features it offered rather than just being a midi connection to modular. I have been trying to get my hands on a new norns from monome as i heard the shield can be a bit noisy but orders are never available when i check out their site.

@@joeymc5272 Crow is super powerful and well worth picking up. If you can't find an official Norns, I can recommend the shieldXL by denki oto. I've noticed no noise issues with mine (but haven't really gone looking for it, either).

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35 seconds of lo-fi beats to study to 💁