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You are not forced into a narrow build using feats, you are min/maxed into it. Your choice.

Hello other 4e fans!

Worth mentioning the PF2E borrows as much from 4e as 3e. What I've found in that system what really saves the fighter and other STR based martials from being shoehorned is just how well skills are worked into the game system. So much you can do with just Athletics beyond just swinging a weapon.

Do you heard about the weapon mastery system that will be added in One D&D ? Or the DnD short version of the weapon mastery published in his Ryoko's guide to Yokai Realms Kickstarter ? That could give you some good options for what you want for your fighters characters.

But how about a recommendation that I’m relatively sure you’ve given (I believe in the sandbox video) and/or other similar channels do give, essentially “quantum quests”, ie “stolen”/pilfered content to drop maybe in more than a place? Isn’t that more or less the same?

DCC's Fighter without the shadow of a doubt!

Says the pre-written adventures by WotC suck, and then immediately throws the gauntlet down by putting Cuse of Strahd on the top of the pile. Brave sir.

Amazing method! Thank you very much! And it is just easy to incorporate immediately into my games!

wow, i've been pronouncing brodesode wrong for so many years

I feel it's a little unfair to completely gloss over pf2e feats since pf2e feats are... not as minute as it's inspiration. Most of the feats are maneuvers, and what makes fighters actually unique is that their feats are really strong, and they have a higher to-hit bonus than any other class. Though I'll confess it's not as cool as DCC, fighters do have a reputation in pf2e circles

110 feats... Haha, 3.5 had about 3700 feats in total. Compendiums like Crystalkeep were, essentially, essential.

It’s not an open world videogame so what’s the expectation?

I agree that DCC is the most fun to play. The only other game I'd suggest checking out is exalted because of all the cool stunts and charms you can do. Not as good as DCC or as simple, but it's still my favorite outside of pathfinder 2e.

Happy to watch the sassy talking hands

uh, what? 1:41 original D&D, aka 0e, had races. your looking at basic d&d which is NOT original D&D, it was based on 0e just like 1e AD&D was releasing at the same time.

My main issues with DCC's fighter are potentially minor to some but for me they kinda just cause a headache and feel half-baked 1) it requires the DM to make up shit on the fly on mechanics (Honestly? a minor issue, especially for OSR fans, I'll concede on that but it could be a good point for people new to OSR) 2) The fighter is pretty much summed up as "You can use weapons and armor, also you can cast guidance on attack and damage" (It's actually worse for the first level because it's 1d3) 3) You essentially have 2 layers of potential failure (Deed die is too low or the attack misses) for something that, typically in my experience, you can already *do* in OSR type games, so unless you're specifically saying other classes CAN'T be clever with their attacks, then now you've got a feature that feels good but doesn't really add anything. 4) Unless you know your GM has a list of "how would I do this mechanic" it tells you actually 0 about what you can do to help the fight, like I can flourish all I want in other RPGs, but how much it does depends on the RPG This on top of the fact that Mages almost always have more reliable abilities (if you want to use them, you can, if you can't, it's because of an effect imposed upon you, or because you ran out of steam) Just so that I'm not being entirely negative: Black hack is p good, you get attacks... equal to level. You can do at level 2 what a 5e fighter can do at level 5

Woah the fake ripping the page got me big time

I was waiting for that DCC book reveal the whole video! DCC's Fighter is to me the best iteration of the class I've played.

Check out ACKS warrior. Their to-hit and dmg scales by level, and it can cleave 1 time per level, so a level 4 fighter can enter a room and kill off 4 enemies in 1 turn.

pathfinder 2 fighter: I crit on a 15

I remember the old days when power gaming was an insult and anyone who referred to their character as having a 'build' was pretty much doomed to be asked to leave the group eventually. I miss those days.

Insert angry comment about how 4e has the best fighter and you should feel bad for saying bad things about it here.

I think slot based inventory AND a bag of holding is the big brain GM move. Just imagine separating the party with a surprise wall trap. No damage, just separate the party and ask slowly and quietly, "Who is carrying the bag of holding?"

Please do this for other classes too!

I wish everyone was required to watch this before starting a campaign.

6:30 the reason 4e abilities read like feats is that every class in 4e is meant to be equally able to do cool stuff. In 5E the wizard has a tonne of cool spells and magical class abilities get where as the fighter gets extra attack and action surges which can only really be used for an additional extra attack. The powers are meant to replace normal attacks so that every turn you have something cool you can do instead of 5 e where the vast majority of turns you just make a regular attack and 50% of the time you miss and nothing happens. Think of it as being like a battle master but with more intricate abilities you can use more often. Also 4e wasn't designed to be like an MMO, what happened was in an interview one of the designers said that they had multiple inspirations including other TTRPG's and even video games like world of warcraft and all the 4e haters rook that to mean 4e is a warcraft clone. 4E does have a problem with players using all their best abilities and then going around with their at will abilities until they win, sort of like how in 5E casters do all the cool stuff in the first 25% of the battle where the steaks are the lowest, and then they just use their level 1 spells and cantrips for the rest of the fight.

But what does best mean? Most powerful? Most options? Most thematic? Most realistic? Best able to emulate fighters from X book/movie? Edit: Ah, most options (during play)

Adventurer Conqueror King’s Fighter is hands down the fix for the entire “DnD” style games. Mentioned? No. With ACKS, DnD becomes obsolete.

The cheek aside, much love to talking about 13th age. That is my go to for fantasy gaming and enjoyed the heck outta the fogbter class!

So, are Mighty deeds more like Combat Maneuvers is Sharp Swords & Sinister Spells, Exploits in Low Fantasy Gaming, or The Strong's special combat options in Whitehack 4e?

I think you missed the main strength of the pathfinder 2e fighter, which is their accuracy. They are always better at hitting (AND THEREFORE CRITTING) things than the others. Also, feats don't really work like in 3.5/pf1, they're more like new interesting ways to use your actions.

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The patting the logo at 4:50 had me in tears X'D The DCC warrior does sound interesting! I love my martial classes and especially the fighter battlemaster. It's sad tho that most of the shine of being this awesome warrior, needs to come from the narrative descriptions to show how awesome my move was :-p

I feel like I am in a unique minority here because I have actually played and ran 4e... I didn't like it but I understand what it was trying to do. The core fantasy of 4e was Heroic Fantasy. Larger than life heroes regularly doing larger than life feats. That's why the limited abilities were called powers and there was practically no resources to track and the hit point pools were so big. The biggest downside was that because everyone did so many cool things with specifically designed triggers for specific playstyles, fights were a slog. I'll stick with 5e.

I love fighters called "Knights" in Spire the City Must Fall. Such an interesting twist on your typical fighter class.

PF2E Fighter is the GOAT. They specialize in critical hits which have special effects depending on choices you make in character options or equipment. They are simple to play but feel very different from all other martials in the system. Also you are hardly boring when you crit as much as a foghter does.

Gandalf the Grey was no D&D class, and it is insulting to suggest he was

THE DEFICIENT MASTER GRACES US WITH HIS CONTENT ONCE AGAIN!

Best fighter class is the Warrior from Earthdawn. Hands down. No contest.

D&D5e is a grossly designed mess. It does nothing to teach people to design adventures, tell stories, or even encourage role-play.

Our Thursday Game is 10 Players face to face, my Sunday Game is 7 Players Face to face ... Want to max min your Character Fine, Your attacked by a Dragon ... I mean 3 Dragons ! DM can always balance the monsters to players, What a Normal Warrior Strikes for 12-20 Damage but your Doing 20-40, Guess which Dragon has Twice as many Hit Points, you have Double the Hps and High Ac as well, Nice my Monster is Higher level hits easier and Gets twice the attacks . DMs always Right ! ... I do understand the Did I hit, How much Damage did I deal, we have 2 brothers who come together (They are not sharpest crayons in the box) But one is always Trying to do something, so we help them, hopefully they learn haha

Ok, first, where did you get those miniature warriors, wizards, and clerics (@ 1:50), and is there a rogue? They would be awesome replacements for Lords of Waterdeep tokens! ... as for my Prep (for 1e Campain in Lankhmar) First, I took my 7 player character back stories and tried to come up with outlines of where I could add them to my Basic Main Quest line(s), the backstory quests can be part of the main or a side quest ... I started by crashing them all together. where they had to work their way out, which led them to an underground black market in the Sewers, which also has a seer who gives them help with problems. They also get side quests from the town job board, to catch a wanted person, save a person or thing, or kill some something in the sewers or Buildings around the city, as well as NPCs who have heard about their exploits and come to hire or kill them. helping one could cause them trouble later from any enemy of those helped, this is a Huge city and has many Town Watch and Guards, with multiple Compounds over the city, some strait by the book, some Not, I started with Huge Lankhmar city, But where they went in it was there choice, but I also had a Few Starting Pois (Points of Interest), and more are added as they explore, do jobs and etc, I keep 1 or 2 parts of Main Quest line maps (With notes all over it because it maybe next week or 3 months from now before they want to go there, then I have 3-5 Side quests normally, Plus I generally have some Quests that arc off for there back storys or Legenday gear they hear of (Usually the seers job), Stuff is smuggled in, out and through lankhmar, So Using OWLBEARRODEO VTT I have digital post it notes all over the map, Blue Room Descriptions, Red Monster stats, Yellow Loot (PS this is great just un cover it and they see the Look, you don't have to repeat it, they can write it down easy), Orange Traps, Green CLUES to find as well as all the NPC/ENEMY in place and ready. I Do like to have Handouts specially for Special Gear with stats and Etc, so I don't have to Remind them of its effects and etc, or for Clues like Notes between npcs or etc, a Map to a Location they haven't discovered, a Image of a Half destroyed Rune, as well as Images I can pop up of Locations they go to or NPCS they meet ... again this is OK info and I'm sure will help some. you get anoither thumbs up

You should alsos take a look at the ACKS fighter ---------> czcams.com/video/dZaq9gh5L8E/video.html Thanks for the great video :)

Nice strawman

If you pretend that social gameplay in 5e is good you need to think that the combat is amazing

I like most have been working on my Own RPG system for couple years now and also like the Slot system and agree the less slots will make it more interesting, what will you carry and what will you have to leave. ... your Inventory hand out is cool, Maybe Cut the post it in Half and Make all the Spots for Half size, so you can fit the parts off edges on to the page (and save post its at the same time). OR just laminate it with all on one page so they can dry ease on it. ... I DO like this, First Thumbs up

I think the issue of "Fighter is boring" stems from High Fantasy role-play. As soon as you removed the High, and possibly even add Low, the Fighter becomes a much more interesting class when it's not competing with Wizards that are pocket tactical nukes, Bards that are sleeping with every dragon and getting their hoards as part of alimony payments, or Clerics that have more "subclasses" than any Fighter had feats. Fighters also tend to shine in dungeon crawls, compared to epic adventures that require saving the world. Of course, a guy swinging a Broadsword is going to be boring when you have to face an army of Demons being sent forth upon the material plane by an evil God. Yet, take a step back and reduce the scope to, let's say clearing out a Minotaur's labyrinth that has been trapping nearby villagers and all of a sudden a guy swinging a sword is perfect! Personally, I think Fighters should be crunchier than the magic classes. Magic by itself already gives you plenty of crunch due to the options you receive. The problem is, especially 5e, when a system thinks everyone should get an equal share of crunch. So all of a sudden, again, the Fighter gets overshadowed by some weird guy that sold his soul to some sexy demon and can swing his magical Broadsword much better than the Fighter could ever hope for. For anyone who complains about Fighters being boring, they need to go play 4E. It's a game that revolves around combat. Guess what class most revolves around combat? That's right, the Master of the Broadsword! Although, if you care about exploration or narratives you're not going to enjoy it as much since the grid, minis and all the combat abilities are what the game is actually about. It's very good for combat, but don't try to add too much of your Bard slaying in the way of monster slaying. As for DC20, so far it just feels like someone who enjoyed 5E but wanted Pathfinder/Starfinder mechanics in their game while house ruling 5E. We're going to try out a game soon with the Alpha rules, but I'm currently not 100% on board. From the reading, I'd rather just play Pathfinder 2E, but I'm willing to be surprised.

1. Yeah my Campaign is 1e Lankhmar, City of Thieves ... it has MANY Factions, Different bangs of thugs, Good and Bad Guards, Smugglers, etc ... 2. I dislike TIMERS, but I do keep Basic Time in my Campaign, But I don't just give them a countdown till something happens, They bust a door down, Roll chance for Wandering monster to have heard, as well as any in the room they are entering ... 3. Reaction Tables ... Well, if you have FACTIONS as 1, means you know if they are Agro (Will attack), Passive (Will let them pass or they leave), and Friendly since party has assisted them before ? Also in 1e you can use Alignment to figure what many would do, Lawful wouldn't attack a now aggressive party generally, a Neutral would move along or chat with party if they like, a Evil would generally try to get the upper hand to attack them... So this may help someone, but it is not very valuable to me.

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