The Progression to Expect when Learning Code
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- #Need2Nerd #Need2Nerd What to expect when learning to code. The path to becoming a programmer is not so clear to most, so in this video I go over what to expect and how to manage how you feel as you learn.
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1.Wear baseball hat
2.Make fun of Ruby
3. Compare cameras and martial arts to programming
1. Expect mistakes
2.Recognize your strengths and weaknesses -> Concentrate on where you are good... Personally disagree with this
3. Hitting the "wall" is good
4. Something hard, is valuable -> find something where the barrier to entry are high
5. If it is easy, then its not worth much
2. if you're an artist that specializes and enjoys realism, why would you up your japanese anime art style? especially if thats not that you sell yourself as. you can improve your weak areas in the category you specialize in, like technique or equipment. that's what stef is saying. no need to be an all rounder and be average when you can be great at specialzing. there's a reason why there are front and back end developers, but it's not like they can't do the other side either.
At 7:55 : Very true statement about good UX is so rare that most people don't recognize it when they see it. So true!
These types of videos are my favorite. The advice and learned wisdom you share have been most helpful. Also great when coupled with a walk or drive around the city. Great channel!
Thank you for this truthful, straightforward and concise advice. Too many people are talking about how you should have fun and giggles, and too few directly point out the value of hard work and getting through the grind and achievement
This is one of the most clarifying and motivation videos on coding I've ever seen. Thanks
Thanks for the motivation Stefan! I’ve been breathing and eating code lately whenever I’m not learning to code I’m watching your videos.
I like how realistic he is about everything and not just "do what you wanna do, whatever it is." Good value, gained knowledge, left sub for hopefully even more knowledge
Thanks Stefan for advices, I really enjoy watching your videos 👍
Keeping my streak probably around 250 videos watched for a month and a half I think. Writing everything down because those videos are more valuable than a College degree. Thanks again for the content Stef!
Thanks so much Stefan! Your channel has helped me so much in my journey to learn to code!
This has really helped me. Not only does it make sense in code but it also just made so much sense in daily life. Now I realize how many mistakes I've made in my career search. New subby😘
really valuable advice. Thanks Stefan. tips no.2 clears something on my mind.
Thanks for your videos! I've learned so much from them and your course, which I'm in the middle of.
First Time Learning Code: I hate this, I hate this, I kinda like it, i love it, i hate this, can i quit now ? i love it, i hate this i hate this. Just like your first relashionship.
Roobix13 Second you are not alone bro
Yay
Lol thats me every day in the office. fml
From all the courses I've learned from this guy is the best at teaching it.. coding is such a love/hate relationship.
You hit the nail on the head!
Love the shots ... plus the solid advice
Stefan! Thanks for videos. You've helped me a lot so I wanted to try and bring some value back to you in the form of podcast advice. I'm no expert but I listen to a TON of podcasts so I thought I could help.
1. You didn't link your podcast in your last video or this one in the description! Make sure to include it so it's easy to find from youtube!
2. Your podcasts don't display their length until you hit play and wait for it to load. This is important because length is a big determining factor on which podcast to download for which activity. Going for a quick jog? 15 min episode is perfect. Driving or a long commute? I'm going to want to download a long episode. If I download a podcast for my drive and then it only lasts 15 minutes, I'd be disappointed, but if I know that going in I'll just choose a different one.
Glad you got into podcasting! Best of luck.
This is good advice to anything in life really. Awesome wisdom.
The nerd eye!
I am creating web sites since late 90's... and I still can't decide if I am (web) designer, front-end developer or back-end developer. I love it all and I don't want to choose. This is comparable to renaissance inventors who did it all. With this approach I have invented alternative approaches to many problems in web development, something that focused developers probably wouldn't even consider to do. I have my niche and I am successful in my work. But - this is hard and I am aware that not everyone can do this. This is why Stefan is advising for you to focus on one.
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Halfway through your Python course. Loving it! Thanks again
Glad you love it! Dude, you know I have to shamelessly self promote: www.killervideostore.com/video-courses/beginners_python_3.php ;)
Great advice as always, thanks Stefan
As a junior full stack developer I find this very valuable. I have been hitting a few walls in the last year or so. On the other side of it, I have gained more confidence in my coding abilities and gained more knowledge. Thank you for these points. I find it very helpful. Love the concept of the 'nerd-eye' too.
Loved it when you threw in the a reference. ! It's evolved soo much since ucf 1
Ufc
It's like a game.. you don't uninstall it as soon as you fail to accomplish a mission, you start again, so why should life be any different? There are some simple things which our brains simply refuse to accept and videos/tips like these must change it.
vermillion but what is, if there is a more efficient way then to just bump into every wall?
In life you dont respawn, and you dont have save slots to revert back to if u mess up.
Amogh Shet - HAV I think you missed the point there. What I mean is that we give up too easy, it's natural to face difficulties when learning something new
I go that... my comment was light hearted
I'm good at #1 and #4. Mistakes, no problem. And, I always seem to end up doing things, the hard way, so, I have that covered as well.
Wow, needed this thank you !
9:23 THAT is some of the best advice I have ever heard in my life!
Great advice, great video..as usual :D I'm trying to learn programming (Python and JS), your channel is very helpful, thanks. Cheers from France!
Merci!
Thanks man, very helpful.
Excellent video - thanks man.
What a beautiful view of July.
5:36 I needed to hear this so much right now. I'm struggling with some patterns in React.js. I'm sure I will get them eventually, but for now it is tough.
@@dfd5982 I did!
Coool. thank you. I appreciate this video.
this video comes out amazingly clear on my new realme x50 smartphone.
Oh men, thanks so much for this.
Great video and great points you've made. My heart is definately in the front-end however Im intrigued with the backend. I want to know enough to build html contact forms and blogs...
I envy talented frontend developers, it must be very rewarding to visually see when something works. I can design simple frontends, like if it just needs to serve a function I'm in, but when it needs to look good I'm out. Best of luck on your journey, backend is really not as hard as people make it out to be, so don't get discouraged, like with all things getting it to work is not the difficult part, doing it well is the difficult part. Every fool can design a backend that's hard to maintain and modify, good backend development is really just good coding and stuff about databases.
YOU ARE NOW MY CODING MENTOR .♡
Well done (4 ....I'm not counting 5 really it's 4) items are exactly true. Worth listening to
Hey Stef do you think you could make a video expanding on the "nerd eye" idea? It would be great to have some pointers about how to understand code faster
I'm finding the usual "front end is aesthetics, back end is logic" less and less descriptive the more I code web apps. The differences are somewhat swapped. Sometimes the front end UI code is more about the logic, say, with react-dnd or with react-router and redux while using SSR and a proxy for cookie auth, while the backend API code is more about the aesthetics, in the sense of making the code that does the usual validation and DB queries beautiful and easy to read for myself and others. But mostly, the differences are disappearing. Both involve use of modules, libraries, and frameworks, all built upon the same dozen or so common design patterns and algorithms and paradigms. So I just no longer find it apt to automatically associate today's front end developers with web designers and graphic artists and animators and what not. Especially also now that a lot of back end developer duties are being super simplified and abstracted with Infrastructure as Code. Anyway, as always, great talks Stef!
I enjoy backend the most but I'm starting to like frontend a lot more now that I'm starting to get the hang of Vue.js. My graphic design skills are lacking, but I can do a few things in Gimp and I want to get better. I'm aspiring to be a fullstack developer.
Yo Stef, thanks as always for the inspiring vlog. Quick question: do you plan to develop a React course someday? I would totally buy it right away.
I am learning to code in cégep in Montréal and what you Say about school exams is true.they are hard and stressful, but i am not giving up and i Will expect myself to make mistake.
youre a great mentor
10:14 some car realizes it’s been driving on the wrong side of the road
0:00 Why
0:58 Expect mistackes
1:52 Recognize your strengths and weaknesses
5:36 Hitting the "wall" is good
6:25 Something hard, is valuable
8:32 Barriers to entry are high...
9:10 In short
I majored in math in college, and now I'm teaching myself programming. I see much intersection between the logic behind math and the logic behind programming. I would say that this is a fairly advantageous sequence of particular events. Yet, I haven't determined if I'm either a front-end or back-end type of programmer. I have an eye for aesthetics (as can be seen from my uploads), but also I believe my brain is rather prepared to learn back-end development with deep understanding. Any tips?
Hi, I'm not a good designer so I want to choose the back end but I still I need to know front end? Thank you!
Here is a question what is more profitable for freelancing back-end or front-end? Especially when it comes to Wordpress.
I am guessing there is more work in front end freelancing for wordpress/Freelancing. Should you focus on the PHP/MySql or the CSS/JS. Most of the jobs are in making wordpress sites right ? or adding advanced PHP to established Wordpress sites?
Stef what should one do if they like both front end and back end? Become a full stack dev or just choose one or the other? Im building a php site front to back and i kind of like the whole thing...
So many guys I know with computer science degrees who were very successful back-end developers told me this. If they just had enough artistic skill to make things look good, they'd make so much more money. But they can't. One guy told me that him and his team have to design stuff all the time and they're never happy with it. I entered a web development program a couple years ago. Hopefully my creative ability will make it really work for me.
i can do both, designing an ui with complementary color compositions and a Ratio of 1,618 here and there, but i can also design highly modular performant workmodules or Network enviroments in c++ and im Kind of proud of that, i am actually teaching me HTML, CSS, PHP, MySQL and JavaScript. The most valuable Thing of a Coder is to know when there is room to imrove and where it is. Got a PHP MySQL Project for 33€/h in Hands bevor i even know them because of my good work for the Client in compiling his Software for various plattforms with several additional Features with external dependecies, he said he had 3 guys before and noone was able, i made it iterative the customer could follow the Progress of including additional dependencies. He offered me the next Project and i decided the Price accordingly to my web dev skills. hope it wasnt too low what does you mean mate?
I’m getting a lot of references from Principles by Ray Dalio idk if you have read that but you two share very similar points
Programming is like MMA, got it. I will use it to impress the ladies now. Thanks Stefan!
Thank you for motivation. I love your videos and especially when you talk about martial arts as I do BJJ. I have started learning coding to be able to train and compete.. have you ever done bjj?
I'm a coder and I practice Muay Thai ^_^.
Never did. I did some judo and wrestling.
I do BJJ too!! started coding recently
Stefan Mischook Thats Amazing! Wrestling is cool too . You should definitely try bjj 🤙
If I'm a c programer and only been doing it for a year is it bad that I'm not great with pointers
where do you get off making me question whether I am a front end or a back end person?
Oooh good life advice on "hitting the wall"
Where are you best at coding? Do you focus your educational business at your best area of strength?
Thanks
Whats the hardest thing to learn in web development?
You make really great and encouraging videos! I was told by a friend that it is important to learn C language before starting to learn Python.. it would be great if you can share you thought on that.
Thank you!
While I'm not Stefan I have been programming Python for a few years now and I would not say that you have to know C first before you can start learning Python. Python is a very fun and beautiful language with a very active community - you'll like it!
Thanks LeAmarator!
1:28 omg! I was literally thinking the same thing when you were talking about the mistakes, like yea...ofc it's stressful as hell cause we were all conditioned to think that 1 mistake (such as getting a bad grade on an important exam) meant that now your whole life is ruined, you can't re-take the exam and you'll have to live on the streets! Lol...what a circus school was
What about those full stack developers? (are they the MMAs of the developer world?) Do they have to be masters of the front, middle tier and back ends? It seems so, and it seems that becoming a full stack developer is definitely something to aspire t be. In that process, you will surely discover what your strengths and weaknesses are and thus what aspect/s of programming you should concentrate on.
My exact thoughts....
I don't think they have to be masters, simply because not every application requires master level competence. If an application has a simple frontend a backend developer can probably learn to code it quickly and vice versa. It's only if you need great expertise because all 3 tiers are complicated that you'd need a master at all 3. Kind of like the difference in MMA major and minor leagues, in minor leagues you get buy with specializing on one thing and knowing a little bit about the other things, only in the major leagues do you need to be good at everything.
A Full Stack developer is just a front end Developer that upgraded to full stack developer with time. You first start at front end and then learn to implement back end with it.
But a full stack developer is not a master back end developer. Because keeping up at a master level both front end and back end is too complicated for a human.
At best you will be a jack of all trade. In job environment an advanced Back end developer can earn a lot more than a full stack or front end developer.
Because is not the same writing the code of a CMS or ecommerce system from scratch and maintaining it, than modifying wordpress or magento.
Many full stack use bootstrap which greatly lift the load off when it comes to the front end css.
I love learning but only if I believe it'll lead to results. Coding was fun at first, started with small FreeCodeCamp challenges, then Udemy courses and finally a few terrible websites and a buggy Simon game. Got two interviews but didn't get a call back. Now it's been about 6 months since I did any coding at all. None of the project ideas I have are exciting to me.
Well, you should start with a proper course that actually teaches you how to build things: shop.killervideostore.com/ ... Shameless self promotion ... I know! But ... people still love my courses because they get jobs and build real-world projects. :)
What If you fit right in the middle. You like UI but you’re not a designer per day. And you like backend.
Any recommendations for learning to program code in science? I could do an informatics master in round a bout half a year. But I am unsure, if that would be better then to just implement a bunch of scientific functions
I would suggest learning Python first. Then exploring the coding / programming that is applicable in science. Why Python? Because it is use a lot in the sciences, and with Python, you also have Yuuuge flexibility in terms what you can do. Of course, I have to shamelessly promote my Python course: www.killervideostore.com/video-courses/beginners_python_3.php ... As you may have read in many comments on CZcams, people love my Python course!
Stefan Mischook thank you. I already use Python. But most of code is done in Fortran if legacy or C if new. That is on the one hand for faster programs to deal with larger problems and on the other, we are all terrible in programming thats why we refuse to write two codes. a fast to write and a fast to calculate one.
What do you mean with exploring the programming? Just examining other people's code or writing code myself?
What I struggle with in programming is bug localisations and testing more than just if the result is correct.
I tried to challenge myself and read a data science book. If I were to be honest I'd say i would never be able to get a job in data science. But I'm still reading a data analysis and a machine learning book.
Hi
can you talk about rise and fall of software Development job ,because this time more people they are busy promoting Software Development Job or carrier Through Social Media,but i am not sure if it gonna last too long, imagine if 20% or 40% of world wide will become a programmer or coder what will happen? i am 100% sure,soon software Development will become worse, like IT repairing Job .for companies it is a big win because they will be able to get a better and cheap Software Developer,
Then what do you think about new facebook App? will it affect software Development industries? will it affect shopify ?
Thanks
When it comes to honing your strengths, does each language have a front and back end component to it? Or are languages geared for one or the other?
Many languages can be deployed on both the client and the server. That said, typically there is a favored space for them. So for example, Python can run on desktops and run on servers, but for the most part, people tend to use Python on the server. My guess, it is 95% + use Python on the server. Java is in similar position. Although with Java, you can find some viable client side programs ... like netbeans.
@@StefanMischook makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.
Constantly getting Wix ads... Just makes me wonder what to say to a customer if they ask "What if I just use Wix instead of pay you, what's the difference, etc?"
Customization. Wix doesn't do UX ... that has to be carefully crafted. Don't confuse what Wix does, UI, with UX. How about social strategy, how about extended functionality. How about existing sites where they don't want to dump it all for Wix. Wix is just another tool.
Thanks Stef! Great videos and great courses!!
Same here. Wix on every other Stefan Mischook video load for months :-)
This video is almost not about coding. These are things that people should learn as a child, but it's far from what you see on the screens generally. Anyways, solid advice.
I would appreciate If someone clarified my thoughts. As I understand from Stefan in this video , you know you want to be a front end person if you have a good eye for aesthetics and UX . I think of myself as a front end guy, but I don't know how to design a pretty interface with the appropriate colors and position of widgets , etc, I like to implement it, not design it. And I have very little interest in back end, I just like to *code* the UI and make the app talk to the back-end. Do I happen to be a back-end developer that went the wrong way...because I don't have interest in designing but just coding?
Good question. UI and UX are related but not the same. UX is more inline with what you prefer where how well the visual interface works, from a user's perspective is what counts, not how it looks. That said, I would suggest dabbling in back end because you may find it much more satisfying ... and profitable!
I definitely will build a back end to have the experience and see how I like it, thanks for the answer! I subbed to your channel very recently, really appreciating the content, keep it up !
While many hard things are valuable and many valuable things are hard, the fact that something is hard does not necessarily make it valuable.
You've got a caterpillar on your neck. btw good video, keep it up!
Very nice view ^_^
It doesn't always mean that HARD things are more valuable and the EASY things are less valuable. (If we consider the value/money we get in return)
I know freelancers who work on x10 easier projects and earn more than freelancers who work on x10 harder projects and earn less.
It's a bit disappointing - Because of the competition, on Upwork programmers earn like $10 per hour... and other people (like SMM) whose job is to post jokes or entertaining content on Facebook pages earn $10 per hour.
Anyone else notices this, what are your thoughts? Thanks.
Stefan, can you categorically confirm a web developer can do all the codes from A to Z, make no mistakes, fixing bugs and delivering on time? I want to here reality (not having a go at your). But I think there is a lot of lies around being said about "developing seriously".
With no help whatsoever
There are ALWAYS mistakes in web development .... any development! That's why we have iOS12 and Windows 10 and StudioWeb 4. :) So don't worry about it.
#Nerd2Nerd
all these months learning programming in java and i have yet to make my dream game app. *sigh* :|
Look to Kotlin ... faster.
thank you sir.
Sir I am currently learning C++, any advise concerning the language? Also I did C for almost a year is that enough for learning C?
Sure. Depends what you want to do. Do you want to go into a field that uses C? If not, then don't worry about it.
tear728 i want to go into game engines and android application development therefore I'm learning C++ and will also learn java and that's the reason i have kind of deviated away from C...
IT Developer thanks for the advise sir
I'm learning I'm not real good at SQL. I've met a lot of successful programmers who really envy those who can design. They all have told me that if they could make things look good. They would make so much more money. However back-end development is where the magic is. That's where the real problem solving capabilities and that's what businesses need. Maybe their perceptions of the artistic side aren't quite what they seem to think they are. I don't think those back-end developers I know are so good at SQL either. So many disciplines wrapped up in one field. I wish I could do it all.
LMAO, I think that front-end is most difficult than back-end (perhaps cause in my university we can't use any drag and drop tool).
learning how to code without coffee
Digging ditches is per ieved as unpleasant and also doesnt pay well.
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this guy drives on the wrong side of the road