Dry Ice Cleaning | Fine Print and Results
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- We discuss dry ice cleaning and how it works, the risks involved, and the results. This cleaning method could be the future in commercial and residential applications to clean, trucks, cars, fabrics, carpets, walls, appliances, and much more. In this fine print video series, we take a look at how it all works. If you ever wondered how to get out stains, remove grime, rust, and dirt without water or chemicals this is for you.
#cars #dryice #tech
What sets Mark apart from other automotive journalists is his ability to understand he should let his guest do the talking. He never interrupts people. This is often overlooked by so many.
That's because a lot of people start YT channels to suit their own narcissistic ideals. It seems this channel is not like that.
Mark has created the true equivalent of a fine wine. I ain't trying to stroke his feels straight up I can show someone or find a video directly relevant to a question they're looking to answer and they dislike or feel indifferent about the geese. I firmly believe that the lack of quality content has lowered the bar to the point he may have alienated a portion of those into cars who only like it on a surface level. I will never stop appreciating the top notch quality he outputs and that his bar goes only higher not lower. Best wishes from someone here because I can't obtain content of this degree from anywhere else
Probably how he stays married
Are you listening Roman@TFL
Only those with premium presentation skills know this.
Our boy turned getting his car redetailed into a deductible expense, and did it in a really informative, professional way. Amazing business acumen!
The fact that it can remove undercoating with ease is super impressive. Like I'd pay good money for that instead of having to do it the old way with a needle scaler or a blowtorch/knife.
The way it removes the undercoating while doing no apparent damage to the paint under it is very impressive. Strong enough to remove the gunk while being perfectly delicate enough to not damage what's underneath.
i had a spray on wrap removed from my Lotus Elise. Came out perfect
I've been using dry ice blasting in residential mold removal for decades, as well as fire/smoke damage. Often times in severe mold and smoke damage we will blast furniture and often times it doesn't remove the poly on wood pieces
Thanks, that's very interesting. What a great use for this technology.
I work for Hershey chocolate company and we(they) use dry ice to clean food manufacturing equipment on the regular. Only thing that can hold you up is actually ordering the dry ice from the supplier. Our company uses so much that they call out a week ahead. I like the cold jet(dry ice) cleaning, it gets into all the nooks and crannies that we maintenance mechanics would otherwise have to disassemble to be cleaned properly. Saves a lot of downtime, compared to manually cleaning.
really didn't think i'd end up being fascinated by a 20 minute video on industrial cleaning methods but here we are
Where is the footage of you and Jack driving this dry ice machine with launch control on farm roads?
It cant handle that!
So many things that people buy today end up being replaced because they can’t be cleaned without a lot of effort or special tools, so it’s super cool to see something like this that could keep hard to clean parts of car interiors or exteriors looking like new while also reducing waste from the things that people can clean instead of throwing away. Hopefully this becomes a much more widespread cleaning tool in the next few years
Love how honest the owner was about rust etc 👍
The technical and engineering support you guys are able to get and put on showcase is ALWAYS impressive.
As someone who has experience with sand blasting I can respect the amount of time and thought they had to put into the machine to prevent the dry ice pellets from clogging up in the machine. I do wonder about more humid climates having issues though. I suppose its almost necessary to have a drier system on the air compressor. Truly excited to see where this technology expands out to.
Dry ice blasting is great for the high voltage utility industry. We use it for cleaning 34kv porcelain insulators at a steel mill where conventional cleaning takes much more time and man power.
I saw this 20 years ago in industrial setting - pulp and paper mills. Cleaning electrical motors and other equipment. Worked great.
Hey another fine print! I’m glad that this series is still around.
I have decided to sell all my shares of piano black plastic and will now be heavily invested in dry ice cleaning.
You fool, piano black plastic usage will only increase over time! BMW is coming out with an all piano black plastic car next year for weight savings.
Cool product, I'm excited to see this become more attainable for home use. The $450/mo. machine rental is a non-starter for almost everyone not using this professionally, but if I could buy a machine for $500ish that I can use a few times a year, I'd be all about it.
I've looked into it where I live. It's not the cost of rental, but getting the pellets. They don't last forever. So, if the job is delayed, your money literally went up in smoke, evaporated. You need to go get more dry ice.
There are cheap machines from China, you can get one for $2-3k but there are no reliable reviews of them anywhere. Also most people don't have an air compressor powerful enough, even the biggest Husky compressor wouldn't be powerful enough. I just don't see how this would ever work on a DIY basis.
@@alexabc123 I wonder if you could have a mid line dispenser attachment on an hvlp system. Although now that I think about it the whole "low pressure" part of that might kill that idea
Great, comprehensive look at the tech and these machines SG! I'd be interesting in buying one for personal use once the prices come down a bit but I could spend all weekend on my vehicles using this tech...especially my overlander. Thx again!
I "donated my car" so the detailing shop can practice cleaning it has to be one of the best moves ever. Chicago Auto Pros is about 10 minutes from my house...I'm headed over there to try it.
Yes, but does it work on Piano Black plastic
The fact that it cleans SO damn well without water(or chemicals!) is why this technology will become ubiquitous. With water conservation becoming ever more important, plus society wanting less chemicals in their world, it has to! I can't wait for the home version!
One thing that I didn’t see in this vid that I’ve seen in Ammo’s videos is that if you do this in an enclosed space, it blows all the grime and dirt all over the shop you’re in, and leaves a nice coating of shit everywhere.
Yep, that shit doesn't magically disappear. Cool tech but not quite for the home garage mechanic yet.
One of several profound flaws not mentioned in this video.
Really love this deep dive into dry ice cleaning. And man, all that footage of stuff going from grungy to brand new was super satisfying. I have to wonder - when the dry ice displaces all that dirt, where does it go? Do you have to wear a respirator to avoid breathing it in?
He briefly mentions at the end, and it is common sense, the debris does go flying off everywhere. A post-cleanup of surrounding areas would be needed. I imagine a concept similar to a dentist, where another person attempts to suction/vacuum near the area of impact may help minimize that rogue debris
No, the mess Mark mentioned was in reference to mixed media like glass or sand added to the dry ice, which is a specific feature but not needed for most use cases. @datstev question still stands-were did the dirt, grim and oils go? A quick explanation of the molecular science would have been cool addition to the video.
When I worked in a garage one thing I noticed over the years was that caked on grease and oil residue prevents rust. Id often joke about how the manufacturer had built in their own rust prevention system with a leaky gasket.
Gunk has preserved so many 2 stroke motorcycles.
I was just looking into having this done to my old CM2 Accord Type-S I want to preserve. What a treat to have all this information.
And since the tech is from Germany, i should have less trouble sourcing a shop that uses it, being from the Netherlands. Thanks!
always happy to see these options to keep cars newer longer
This is what I've been waiting for!
This is probably the most useful video since the Premium PPE helmet!
Great info.
This method is used in the industrial world quite often. I've used it on industrial electric motors and it's great. Works like a charm and there's no cleanup afterwards. I have no idea how much the machines cost, but I imagine they're more expensive than other media blasters.
I use a dry ice machine to clean once a month at work. We use it where we don't want to get water into our process. Our unit is around $65k lol. But it is a blast to work with.
I see what you did there!
11:34 the dry ice sublimates when it hits the surface, the solid CO2 takes off the dirt and then turns to gas almost instantly so it doesn't transfer much of the energy/temperature.
Well technically to sublimate to the gas phase, it needs to absorb energy from something. I would think that heat is being conducted from the material it's impacting since solids transfer heat better than the surrounding air. But since the rubber has so much mass compared to the dry ice, it'll take a long time before the temperature drops enough to be a problem.
We used to contract dry ice cleaning vendors in to do the grain dryer duct work and tanks during my time in the ethanol industry.
Really interesting. I want one. Seems to me it would put a lot of stuff in the air and maybe use of a respirator mask would be wise as well as the gloves and eye protection.
Love these deep dive vids! Dry ice cleaning is so incredible
Sarah -n- tuned recently did a video of her dry ice cleaning the underside of her ur-Quattro, it did a a great job, looks like new underneath.
Very informative, thanks. It’s definitely for the OCD types who have lots of time on their hands, or the high-end detailers. And removing undercoating seems a bit aggressive. Having said that, what an amazingly effective and environmentally friendly method.
Can't wait to blast all the glossy piano black plastics in my premium automobile
New? It’s used in Germany for decades…but nice you are catching up to it as well 🙃
Where is Germany? I thought only the USA is important?
@@savagegeese says the Canadian 😂
Literally the coolest way to clean ;)
Great "episode"! this is the first I've ever heard of this option.
Up next I want to see vanilla ice cleaning.
I always love these side quest videos of guys and Chicago Auto Pros, as always amazing work!
It's amazing technology but one safety item I've yet to see discussed in all the dry ice demo's I've watched: what about masks/respirators while doing this work? I rarely see any operators wearing them. All that road grime, oil, brake dust, dirt, etc. is now being blasted into microscopic particles and goes right in the air you're breathing before it settles on the floor or wherever. With traditional cleaning, that gunk is contained in water or soap so doesn't get airborne. I just wonder about the long term effects on your lungs if you are doing this for your day job without a proper mask.
100% want to use a filter/particle mask while doing this. Dry Ice itself isn't really dangerous unless your using a lot of it in a small, un-ventilated room.
Thank you for this. Well Done!
This is the future of auto detailing. Thank you for showing this on your platform.
I'm surprised they don't do it in a booth or cover at all, they just ice blast in the middle of their shop, the dirt and grime from ice blasting beaing thrown around is insane.
Yeah. You’d have to go and vacuum it all up. We use dry ice blasting in car manufacturing to clean off the welding equipment. You dry ice blast the weld tooling to get the weld slag off, and there is TONS of debris that flies everywhere. You have to clean it up.
It was for training purposes that day.
@@savagegeese thanks for explaining
Awesome Video!! Thank You for sharing it with us.
Can I "donate" my car to see if they can clean the whole thing?
Must be good for rear end cleaning.
Can ya feel that now, Jimmie Boy ? Star Trek
Get that dry ice tushy sponsor going. Freeze your nuts off but keeps your butt clean.
I've seen several of these dry ice and steam blasting videos but still don't know where the dirt is going. It just being displaced? Is it just landing on other surfaces thats then need to be cleaned?
Yes. It just gets blown everywhere. You definitely need to vacuum up all of the dirt and dust particles after you blast with the dry ice.
I’d guess the point is to get the filth and stains stuck on the surface completely out of there. Once it gets blown out, it’s loose enough to wipe/vacuum it away wherever it landed. Not bad, honestlyz
Oily crud goes everywhere too, not so easy to clean of course.
It freezes, dries, gets blasted, lifted and blown at high speed off surface. So often you would wipe down surfaces after and potentially vacuum.
Thank you Mark for doing this.
As a former Respiratory Therapist, I consider this technology particularly dangerous. Even with a protective suit and a mask rebreather, micro particles will remain in the air . Other than a sealed booth, there is no way to avoid inhaling oil, abrasive particles, metal, paint, you name it. Too high a risk….sorry !
This. They really should be wearing a p100 mask and have a robust filtration system set up running on negative pressure.
Yea they need to use paint booths that have air filtration and water running under the grated floor.
I've known about it for years. The problem today is equipment and portability.
Expensive. Costly.
Anyone who figures out how to do this without the MASSIVE air compressor is gonna dominate the industry for sure
Excellent work as always Goose.
Wow, that was very interesting 👍
I've been so interested in this lately!
Great Video Thanks
What would be really cool is for companies to scrub the air of carbon dioxide that could then be turned into dry ice. Not just recapture from processes but air scrubbing and selling the product. Might (will) make that dry ice more expensive, but it comes with the knowledge that it is reclaimed/scrubbed carbon :)
improvement diversification technology, thank you SGeese
That was so cool 🥶
Thanks!
A good 'Vapor Steam cleaner' is about 1K and does much better job cleaning and degreasing most surfaces, it uses no chemicals, just add water and runs on 120V. Puts out 315 degree steam vapor at 75psi. Can be set to 5% water in the Vapor. 1000's of uses in and out of the house. I think the dry ice machine would be a hassle to use regularly and cost 5-10 times more than the 'Vapor Steam Cleaner'. I've had one for years and would replace it in an instant if this one went bad.
Hey Mark, would you be interested in doing a build breakdown/review on your S2k? It looks phenomenal and I'd like to see how far it's come along
So where does the dirt go? Into the air?
Partly into the air and deeper into the seat covers if "cleaning" seats.
Ugh, Never thought about this. So cool
What a great video
Next, cover those ridiculous laser cleaning tools. Freaking lasers, man! They strip rust and paint effortlessly all while looking cool and sounding wild to boot.
In China they also use this for intake carbon build-up. And it does it quite well.
Dry ice baths are the best👍
Mark Rocks!!!!
Cars with electric motors are pressure washer friendly…believe it or not…also water doesn’t damage computer parts unless you literally run it while wet or fail to clean the debris off afterwards before restarting.
Very cool
Thank you for this information you are the best
This is satisfying to watch
Wonder if it works for carbon built up on DI intake valves
This stuff is really cool. I wish I had the resources to get one of these and use it for random and personal use, but it’s gonna have to drop in price a ton for that to happen.
Also, Sarah’n’Tuned recently dry ice blasted the underside of her Ur Quattro and the transformation was incredible to see. Nice to get some more recognition and more footage here. Now I’m wondering if she spent 5-10k on just that tool + dry ice…
You said Her, but Sarah is a Dude
pretty neat!
Great video. Thank you Mark.
well vapor/water blastin + ice blasting are the greatest things in the last few years for car enthusiasts
Cost and safety will keep this for commercial use I think.
It seems like a great natural cleaning method.
I can imagine this would be great for other cleaning purposes but it will require a lot more refinement to make it a home appliance if that even is the goal.
This is super cool. Interested to see where this technology will be in 5 or so years
They had dry ice cleaning where i live, but dont anymore, so i asked why and they said its because the dry ice will weaken the stitching and in some cases that lets the aplostery rip at the seam and its more of a insurance liability, than a moneymaker. atleast for seats and stitched stuff
very cool. i wonder if they could also attach a vacuum hose on the end so you can suck up all the crud rather than blasting it to somewhere else in the cabin.
What a awesome video!!!
If you ever find mold in your attic, this is how the professionals handle it.
Great and super interesting video!
So when cleaning stuff like the seats is it lifting or blowing the dirt away or just pushing it through the fabric deeper?
I guess that would need a more specific analysis
If its blowing the dirt around wouldn't they just settle back down onto the fabric in a few minutes?
Partly into the air and deeper into the seat covers if "cleaning" seats.
Love the content guys.
That's pretty cool. Good video!
I need to see more of this to replace walnut shell blasting.
How much area can the dry ice energy machine cover before refilling.the container looks small and if you’re doing a large area how many time do you have to refill it to get the job done?
I could sure use this service on my S2000!! 😊
It looks like interesting technology. Unfortunately, there is nobody where I live (a good-sized Midwestern city) doing car detailing with it that I could find, although I found some industrial cleaning companies using it.
It's an excellent idea, as it's just carbon dioxide but frozen, it looks a bit like they're soaking the interior but all that water looking stuff will very quicky evapoate into gaseous CO2 in a few seconds
So, external cleaning means the dirt removed falls to the ground. When cleaning an interior the dirt does not disappear and has to go somewhere when blown off by the dry ice. Do you have to vacuum or clean up the debris afterward?
Depends on job.
Will be interesting to see if there will be a consumer version of device. Would love to use this.
This cured my hemorrhoids instantly
Need to test it out on Jack's seed bag... maybe it would work better than all the other products he uses.