Haydn's "Nelson Messe" Performed by Edinburgh Univeristy Chamber Orchestra
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- The orchestra performing "Nelson Messe" with the amazing Edinburgh University Chamber Choir in our November 2015 concert.
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Certainly the best performance on you tube, I love the fire and passion that comes across here!
What a drama. What an intensity. I am literally blown away.
Magnificent performance!!👏👏👏
Oh my GOD. This conductor is lipsyncing for his LIFE and that is literally me whenever I'm showering. It feels so liberating to see him express exactly how I feel. We stanneth.
anth g. Same here😂😂
The conductor is Greg Batsleer who at the time was also the RSNOC MD. He was also, and still is, the MD of The Huddersfield Choral Society in England. I watched this as I’m performing it tomorrow, (different choir). I got a real surprise to see him! He is conducting our upcoming Beethoven Missa Solemnis with the Liverpool Symphony. Go Greg!
The balance between voices and instruments is amazing. The director is so passionate (I love that), and delivers a extraordinary energy both to orchestra an chorus. I particularly enjoy the kyrie and how majestic the end of each part is. We are imploring God for mercy and that´s what must mean traslated into music. Superb interpretation. Congrats.
I enjoyed the performance very much. I will play the organ for the concert of Pacific Chorale and Pacific Symphony this May at Segerstrom Concert Hall.
Im overwhelmed
I love being able to hear all the voices so clearly, great job on the mix. Usually we can hear only the soprano line so clearly; here it almost gets overshadowed sometimes...a welcome change to me and to others too, I'll bet.
Even more wonderful to hear the orchestra so clearly: the sumptuous horn lines, the clarion tones of the high brass. Everything.
Well done, all!
Yes! Fantastic! I love the interpretation -- so much emotion and raw energy is being spun about the room! I am 110% with the conductor on this one, his energy is spot on with what a piece like this deserves to be brought to its full potential. Wish the soprano soloist was a dramatic coloratura soprano, so we could hear more intensity and drama in her sound, but it's otherwise really good! Bravo!
CONGRATS!!! BRAVO!!!!!!
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Great performance, really enjoyed it! We're 'performing' it online this term (while we can't rehearse together in person) and have shared your recording with our members! Thank you from Bradford, UK!
Espetáculo!
Best version ever ...by far...
El benedictus mas hermoso del mundo....😢❤
Eccellente esecuzione !
We're sharing both Broadsides avec les Francaises to this one ⛵
Super Performance.
Crikey - what a knockout performance - just right
love it. Love the conductor.
Seriously? In the Gloria it doesn't even look as though he's conducting the same piece they're singing!
@@iraspaulding2It looks like video is out of synch with respect to audio. I definitely wouldn’t explain the conductor’s movements otherwise. This said, I sang this Mass many years ago with two orchestras and 5 choirs… I prefer this version, with a smaller group of people.
Quizá la mejor obra de Haydn
5:13 What's going on with the wrong notes on the horns? Did they breathe sufficiently?
It sounds like a whole different key. It’s very strange.
It made the leader smile!!
22:35
Conductor? Soloists? Excellent, anyway.
Conductor Greg Batsleer… Google him.😉
So the harpist was there for decoration?
take the woodwind out and we got a performance
Absolutely! Woodwind has no place in this work, which is characterized by the ferocity of three trumpets and timpani (with strings) alone. Woodwind was added by Victorian editors who thought they could 'improve' on Haydn. The composer knew what he was doing! What a shame, since otherwise it is a very good performance.
@@garryhumphreys3054 I have to disagree strongly! (I don't think I'm a relation, by the way.) The reason that Haydn wrote this Mass in this way - no woodwind, no horns, just three trumpets, timpani and organ supporting the strings - is because he had to. The exigencies of war mean that he had no woodwind band and no horns. (How many works of Haydn with orchestra have no *horns*?) The sound of the 'authentic' scoring is very lean and powerful, and has therefore received many good performances. I think it's also good to hear what Haydn may well have, ideally, wanted to hear. He is on record as having said that people were free to add extra wind if they wished. The parts heard here seem to be based on the ones that appeared in early scores (the beginning of the 19th century, they are in the score available for download at the Petrucci Music Library), so they either date back to Haydn, or to one of his contemporaries. There seem to be some 'extra' horn notes, which are in keeping, but noticeable because the soft horns aren't soft enough in this recording.
I think it's a good performance (separated violins, with a good hard timpani sound), though some of the slowings are perhaps more than Haydn would have expected. But it is good to hear what is actually a more typical late-Haydn sound. And as I said, there are lots of stick-to-the-score alternatives.
@@peterhumphreys7078 Thanks for the food for thought! Much appreciate your considered and informative reply. I may have to revise my commercially-aviulable programme note, therefore!
@@garryhumphreys3054 You're welcome. I have ten versions of the Nelson Mass, eight without woodwind, and two with, so I think the 'wartime rationing' version is safe for the time being :)
Peter Humphreys
An interesting discussion.
On the Sonorum Concentus version of this Mass (elsewhere on CZcams), I have added a lengthy note in response to an open question by Diego Tripodi:
‘Who added the wind parts?’
You might find it relevant and of interest.
Was she early on the first note.
Who is the conductor?
Gregory Batsleer
Kyrie 00:05 choir at 00:29
Gloria 05:03
* Qui Tollis 09:00
* Quoniam 12:53
* fuuga 13:35
Credo 15:55
* Et Incarnatus Est 17:50
* Et Resurrexit 21:32
Sanctus 25:42
* Allegro 26:55
Benedictus 28:22
* Allegro 33:50
Agnus Dei 34:43
* Dona Vivace 37:21
thx for the time stamps
An over-the-top performance, but in a good way. I'd like to see this guy perform the other great wartime mass, Handel's Dettingen Te Deum.
And what about another wartime mass, Joseph Haydn: Missa in tempora bellis?
The Te Deum has absolutely nothing to do with the mass.
It has been set separately by many great composers in different Christian denominations such as the two Catholic ones by Haydn (Mozart composed one as well K141), and the Anglican ones of Handel and Purcell.
year? 1798!
Lord Nelson's naval victory over the french fleet at Abukir
@@tiborjedovszky980
Nelson was created Viscount Nelson in 1801 following the important naval victory at the Battle of Copenhagen which damaged seriously any chances Napoleon had of invading England.
Haydn’s Missa in angustiis (Nelson Mass) was written in 1798, ergo he was plain Horatio Nelson.
The University of Edinburgh is my alma mater and I'm playing timpani in this piece for a couple of performances next month, so feeling a great connection here.
This was a thrilling performance of the Nelson Mass - love it.
Which church is this, I wonder?
8:15 i adore her voice.
Another example of the confusing muddle of names being used in the title of this fantastic mass setting.
The mass is correctly the *Missa in angustiis* (Latin) and is one of the few works where the name was given by the composer.
The correct nickname of the work in English is *Nelson Mass.*
(Note: the ‘Lord’ is entirely spurious and should not be used).
If you want to use the correct German nickname - entirely unnecessary here - it is *Nelsonmesse.*
Well done.
Amazing. Btw 16th of October 2020. Their is a pandemic right now the virus spread throughout the world. Stay safe everyone ..
And to think that all Haydn wrote on the opening leaf, apart from the sensational music, was “di me, Giuseppe Haydn, 1798, 10 July - Eisenstadt. À tre. In nomine Domini.”
Astonishingly, given that for some people the Missa in angustiis (Nelson Mass) is Haydn’s greatest single work,* Haydn completed the whole thing in just 53 days during July and August 1798.
It joins a lengthy list of compositions written over the 18th century at breakneck speed that qualify as absolute masterpieces.
* The doyen of Haydn scholars HC Robbins Landon for example.
Fine orchestra....choir not so much. In my opinion, the chorus should have been doubled...Soprano was over powered...runs contained wrong notes, but conducting was excellent with a firm hand, so ensemble played with passion...con giusto...bravo.
This is the obnoxious type of conductor: they go up to the podium to exercise, give a show waving their hands, distracting and barking at the choir. They prevent the music from being the true protagonist.
Right. It is painful to watch him. But I liked the Performance of These Young Artists. Thanks For the recording.