What Makes A Voice Great? | The Charismatic Voice Interview
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- Today's podcast is all about the voice. I'm in a privileged position to be able to chat to renowned opera singer and vocal coach Elizabeth Zharoff aka @TheCharismaticVoice. Elizabeth has multiple degrees in music and voice from Oberlin Conservatory, Berklee College of Music and the Curtis Institute of Music.
Elizabeth started The Charismatic Voice CZcams Channel seven years ago in an effort to focus on education and teaching voice to the masses. She is incredibly knowledgable about how the voice works and I really enjoyed talking to her, I learned a lot. I think you’ll find this episode really
fascinating whether or not you’re a vocalist or not. What makes a great voice? Let's find out.
Check out Elizabeth's CZcams Channel here: / @thecharismaticvoice
You can listen to Justin Hawkins Rides Again...The Podcast on all podcast platforms too e.g. Spotify, Apple etc
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You can listen to Justin Hawkins Rides Again...The Podcast on all podcast platforms too e.g. Spotify, Apple etc open.spotify.com/show/0hQYjIww4Rfaka9Fqc11mX?si=3e3464a188254554
*"JCRidesAgain" is my mastadon!* huh. how bout that. _JC
I carry some weight and I still cant sing 🤪
@@ChrisM541proof or BS
This was brilliant, thank you. Please, if you can, interview Ren. You introduced so very many to his music.
❤❤❤❤absolutely loved this😊😊so interesting great to have longer casts to watch. Thank you justin❤❤❤ and thanx for bringing another amazing artist to my attention...Dimash..I'm a little obsessed already. What a voice❤❤❤always loved guys who can hit notes I can only dream of. But gosh this guy is special. Would love to hear you react to the song where he hits the D8 and please explain to me what ? How? And is it real??. Thanx Justin really loved this interview ❤❤❤❤
I honestly don't care what they talk about, these are just two of the loveliest people alive and it's a pleasure to listen
Truth
I agree. Just two people who love music and have respect for other musician of all kinds. I'd kill to have them both over for a BBQ just so I could listen to them in person - if you're ever in New Zealand.. I'll even cook something vegan especially for JH :P
Same!
I’ve been thinking the same for the past 20 minutes! It would be awesome if this became something they did from time to time, or even better, a joint podcast
Well said and totally agree
Elizabeth has one of, if not THE most positive internet experiences available. Her channel is a joy to watch and is full of kindness, positivity, and love. Her viewers are the same. The world needs more of people like her!!! Great guest Justin!
She reminds me of Pam from the office
Her smile is pretty amazing too! 👍😀
@@xaphan8581 THANK YOU! I was wondering what was going on with my brain there. Lol
You are SO RIGHT 👍. I honestly don't know how I'd survive without Elizabeth Zharoff and TCV!
She has an amazing vibe, and so does Justin. A collab made in heaven really!
I can't believe I watched two people talking about voice maintenance, vocal technics and their love for music in general for over two hours. In a foreign language.... and I can't even sing. You two are so delightful and Elizabeth is a real gem on CZcams.
Agreed! This is so much fun! I'd love to see more content with both of them.
Wait is English the foreign language to you or what. I'm confused.
This is the coolest interview I've ever seen. The way they just vibe off each other is so awesome. Makes it feel more like two people becoming best friends than an interview
I could listen to Justin and Elizabeth on a weekly podcast together, talking about anything and everything, forever. Just two wonderfully charismatic and fabulous humans! Amazing video!
I think that that idea definitely has legs and they could definitely run with it
I would subscribe to that.
Hey LT? yea this couple right here, they have your legs.@@colrhodes377
Watching her have a “eargasm” to music is priceless. Then she proceeds to analyze and explain it like no one I ever seen or heard. Simply Amazing!
Yes I know-an eargasm, that's a perfect term. I was tranfixed by her reaction to Justin's voice, the passion she has for the voice is really entertaining and educational as well.
She's fantastic...I also really adore Lolli, The Fairy Voice Mother. She is amazing...
I would 110% watch a podcast on the regular with you guys. "The Charismatic Ride Again". Your energies match really really well
The charasmatic ride 😂 oo er!
Charisma Rides Again should do. :D
I'm not a singer so the idea that you can consciously control your vocal cords and sing in different spaces completely blew my mind. I found myself trying some of the techniques, managed to scare my cats! Thanks so much Justin and Elizabeth thoroughly fascinating & charismatic people and voices ❤
You do that when you're tired, drunk, depressed... They explain it beautifully since they are both bonkers musicians but if you sing, and you have the show must go on mentality, you end up doing stuff like that...
These two had great professional chemistry. I could see them doing a regular podcast together.
TIMESTAMPS: Please Like.
0:00 Intro
2:50 Tea
8:33 Vocal Cord Polyps & Nodules
18:28 Vocal Recovery & Napping
26:57 Singing Faces & Embarrassing Performances
35:55 Diet & Allergies
41:09 Addiction & Recovery
47:42 Greta Van Fleet & Singing Other Genres
53:32 Finding Places to Sing & Singing Techniques
56:52 Vocal Lessons & RolePlaying
1:24:12 Fans Questions
2:13:23 Outro
Oh nice thanks. Come on everyone upvote the timestamps before they get buried in the comments section.
You’re a saint! ✌️
Thanks Freddie! That was fast
Nice one Fred!
People like you have a special place in heaven 🤣🙌🏻
I always enjoy when Justin tells anecdotes about his longtime friend, Jason Hawkwinds. It's a wonderful insight into his friends life.
Oh my days….. thank you for Dimash….. my mind is blown
You see it in her videos. Just a pure an honest love for the human voice and all it can do. This was a great interview.
True....she gives u goosebumps just describing HER goosebumps
@@rainman42 me too she’s an OG 🎉
In a world where the word "expert" is used so much It means nothing anymore, I can still spot a true expert. She's so passionate about it too. That's why her channel is so entertaining. That was a great podcast. They only problem is that it was too short, lol.
Can we talk about how Justin and Elizabeth went deep into the story of Simanon and Sololomon, wonderful. There should be an animated series.
Are you asking if we can talk about that? Do you need permission to talk about it? Or are you already talking about it?
@@mikemccaine4229 They were wise to ask, for I forbid it.
@Mike McCaine they are just trying to start a conversation man give them a break
@@daddyodoyle Whoa, what do you think you're doing? I forbade it!
Pretty sure it's just Rickick and Mortorty, only reversersed.
I really love the chemistry and dynamic between these two!! They have such a rebel older brother/type A younger sister vibe and it’s really sweet, cause you don’t often find that outside of actual family, and it’s really comforting somehow.
I love that this is not a one way interview, but truly back and forth conversation, while still hitting interview style topics. Love this!
I'm not a musician and I can't sing - yet i found this fascinating and very entertaining. Great job by both of you.
Everyone can sing :)
@@80sMeavyHetal ,
Not well, though. I can think of several people who sing horribly (thankfully not professionally).
@@80sMeavyHetal you are absolutely correct. The main difference though is if people pay you to keep singing or to stop.
@@SuziQ. Of course it needs some practice
@@grilljohan ,
😂
Two charismatic people together, happy to see you chat lovelies! :)
I love both of you squealing over Dimash, hopefully now he's living and working in LA we'll get to see some more concerts from him in the US and the UK.
On top of his vocal capabilities, I just love his charismatic personality and the genuine love he has for his fans.
I am a tech/science nerd and love this type of conversations. It is so wonderful to see how two professionals are able to connect and really, in such a short time, honestly discuss the the range of topics they do. It's like they are very old friends. Beautiful. And when Elizabeth says at 1:59:02, that a voice should shake your bones, I love it. That is what music and song is for me. When you feel it reach through you like an invisible hand that grabs your spinal chord and shakes you. That is just powerful, sublime, and beyond...
Elizabeth is an absolute angel. How many opera singers are there who can be excited to be at a metal festival? Her appreciation for “the other” is wonderful. She’s introduced me to a lot of music that was new to me.
In 2012, Heart performed to honor Led Zeppelin . The original Stairway To Heaven was arranged for added orchestra and choir. Yo Yo Ma, the cellist, was seen loving the loud, melodic guitar run. Musicians like these really like music... solidly so.
This was wonderful. Elizabeth is so charming and knowledgeable. What a great guest.
Have you seen any of her Opera singing? Incredible.
I love Elizabeth's facial expressions! So cute! I really enjoyed this it was just so relaxing to listen too and learn so much from two amazing vocalists!
She look like she could be Emilia Clarke sister.
...just spent 2 hours listening to Dimash ... he's amazing. Thanks for opening my mind to that dude, he's incredible. My heavy metal sensibility probably would not have found him otherwise.
I’m an old school metalhead and discovering Dimash at the beginning of the pandemic has been a mind blowing journey that never gets old. Enjoy! A Dear (that’s what Dimash calls his fans) from 🇨🇦
👋Hello! When you have a minute could you please provide the link to the CZcams vid where Justin reacts to Dimash for the first time? 🥰I’ve tried looking for it, but perhaps the title does not include Dimash’s name.
why do people that listen to metal alwayd boost its their identity...so stupid
Have you given Russian singer Diana Ankudinova a listen? Rechenka, Wicked Game, Can’t help falling in love, all amazing and yes it really is her voice. Elizabeth has reacted to her several times.
You two have substantial charisma & chemistry together as, I dare say cohosts.
Shag buddies!
@@michaelhurley3171 ffs 🤣🤣
I love her personality. She would be the best person to see concerts with.
My brother I totally feel you with the sadness of recovery. I've been sober for close to 6 years now and I still feel that sadness and longing at times. It's like you live in this neverneverland of infinite possibility and then one day it bites you and turns into a nightmare (not unlike some relationships). And even though you know it had to end you always look back to the good times. We can be such complex creatures.
May your recovery be eternal. Good luck for the future.
I hope you find joy and happiness in life again. I think it takes a while for the brain chemistry to readjust after addiction; depression is common. I hope you have ongoing support. It might not feel like it, but you're doing a great job.
There were no good times and I don't long for that ever again.
Gone from that shit and not looking back.
So...here I am thinking, "2 hours, meh, I'll skip around" ... and then...this is such a great duo; what a great discussion. Such an earnest back and forth. It's so nice to be included in a conversation between two people that share not only a mutual respect of one another, but a huge love of music. Beautiful. Thank you.
Justin going deep into his struggles was a really good watch, he is just brilliant and she has so much interest and passion that is infectious. Very good stuff this👍
I enjoyed this more than any other. You are a rockstar with intelligence and grace. And she is just awesome. Good job Justin. You have a new fan.
Yes, Dimash Qudaibergen definitely the best voice in the world! 1.41
One more thing...I would like to thank Justin very much for sharing his recovery story. It made me feel so sad to know that he had to endure such sadness through the very long, sad time. Hugs, Hugs and more Hugs to you Justin.🤗 It makes me feel happy that he made it through to the other side. Bless your heart Justin. I believe he deserves his every bit of happiness. It’s always so refreshing to see Justin’s contagiously sweet, genuine and kind smile. Thanks for always sharing that as well.🥰💞💖
Nice! I was already wondering when and if this interview would drop. Thanks to the both of you for creating great content! And Justin, please do some more interviews/ talks/ chats with people. Your politeness, positivity and knowledge is a real asset in those conversations :)
Enjoyed this so much! Her video is actually how I found your CZcams channel. I've always loved "I Believe In a Thing Called Love", and once that video was posted, I began watching your videos (love them by the way) and went back through all of The Darkness' songs and found a love for the music I didn't know existed. I live in the states and haven't been exposed to anymore songs from The Darkness since that song. But now, my eyes and ears have been opened, and I love it. I'm a singer (not professionally) and really enjoyed hearing this side of the music even though I do love the guitar explaining side of your videos as well. Anyway, love from The States. Cheers!😊
@ Lucinda - Please check out the track "Barbarian" from the Darkness & their "Last of our Kind" album
It's a tale about the (factual) East Coast of England during the Viking times & Viking invasion GREAT track
(the album's outstanding too)
@@hawnyfox3411 that's actually one of my favorites since diving into their music. Thank you for the suggestion though!!! 💕😊
Tremendous discussion! You two and Beato have classed up and enhanced CZcams tenfold. I can’t wait to hear more.
These two have really complimentary energy. Such a joy to watch them just have fun and vibe.
It's content like this that I never knew that I wanted in my life, but now having found it can't imagine how I was ever happy without it. You are both so clearly enjoying each others insights and opinions it is heartwarming. Both of you opening up your vocal folds and your hearts for us all to be warmed by. I also find a burning desire to see if Simanon can elicit that tear from his father...
Isn't Elizabeth AMAZING! so expressive and open! ..check out her opera-singing performances....she's freaking MIND-blowing!
You know what I found really made this work? She didn’t expect to be interviewed, she wanted to have a conversation! And flowed really naturally even with the odd bit of silence you could tell she was putting thought into what was just said or it triggered another idea. Fantastic, Mr. Hawkins. 🤘
Well put!
Great description and observation
Justin, you said something of immeasurable importance. I go5 sober in 2018. I am just now coming out of depression and rejoining life. Quitting is the easier part. Learning to enjoy life sober is daunting.
40:07 Fun fact: Cashews grow in a shell that protrudes out of the cashew apple. Between the shell and the cashew is a toxin called urushiol, which is the same same toxin in poison ivy.
Enjoying listening to your chat so far!
Cashews are freaky little bastards.
Yes, but how do you milk a cashew?
@@staceyfunk9689You'd probably start by buying it a drink.
She looks so happy just talking to Justin. Imagine if she actually met him, she'd absolutely freak out! :)
Justin is secretly excited. He just hides it well.
@@Michael-mm3fm he uses his desk
are they kind of geekin on each other ? trying not to look like it tho ? hmmmm
She's a charismatic voice, she is.
@@kentl7228lol. I'm pretty sure if they were really together, stuff would have happened 😂 Justin is charming the sh*t out of her without even trying
What an interesting and entertaining conversation!
I was very pleased to learn you both rate Dimash Qudaibergen so highly; to my ears, he’s the best singer I’ve ever heard ...
The opera isn't over till the fat lady sings! They really are lovely to listen to. A very enjoyable experience. Add Faouzia to the list.
Thank you so much, Justin and Elizabeth! This chat has been so entertaining and educating. Jus, I really appreciate how honest and clear you are when talking about your addiction, the decisions you made and how hard it was. Elizabeth, thanks to you I finally found "my voice". Your explanations are so pedagogic and easy to visualise, you helped me made the "click" I needed (I'm forever grateful for generously sharing all the knowledge you have, though I think my neighbours are not as happy as I am). Much love and fortune to both of you ❤ 🔥
You and Elizabeth are my favorite “music reaction” type channels on CZcams. So glad this collaboration happened, I know I’m not alone when I say I wanted this to happen so badly! Y’all are the best! ❤
Here's the thing, if Montserrat Caballê and Freddie Mercury could pull off a song brilliantly together, then I see a real gap in todays market for a Elizabeth Zharoff and Justin Hawkins collaboration.
I hope you could make it happen. Considering that you have so many subscribers to your names then the initial marketing would have been done automatically.
Fully on board with this concept!!!!
@Baggins Super cat Thank you Sir.
She’s absolutely smitten with him. Shes like a giddy teenage girl here. Adorable. ❤
I absolutely love this crossover!
Honestly, her channel is one of the best. She interviewed Lzzy Hale from Halestorm and it's one of the most fun, informative chats I've ever seen with a musician.
She hangs on every word he says becuz how absorbed and intrigued she is with vocality. It's enormously cute and endearing, as well as bright and intelligent.
Amazing. This was a master class. Watching these two professional singers trying different vocal techniques was incredible.
OMG OMG OMG! Over 2 hours of joy! I have been waiting for these two to team up forever and it has finally happened! Two of the best singers and absolutely the *best* singer/song analysts on CZcams; charming, insightful and just plain fun watch their genuine responses to the amazing singers and groups that they review. Thank you for sharing this wonderful time with us!
💯
I watched it twice, amazed by the convergent pathways of Justin and Elizabeth who in their expertises are both near the edge of what a voice CAN do, like F1 drivers as opposed to Toyotas.
Absolutely fascinating in every way possible. Too much of Justin and Elizabeth is just not enough.
Thank you.
Love and respect from Australia.
This woman. I'm hooked. I'm not sure what it is. But I'm hooked. I was already hooked on Justin. Now I'm hooked on both of them.
I’m not a singer, but any time I have a sore throat from illness I like orange slices dipped in ground cayenne pepper, instant yet temporary relief. It sounds counterintuitive but I swear by it
Two professionals on top of their game having a relaxed conversation and lots of fun besides. Brilliant!!
Favourite line: You have to put the same dedication into the nap.🤣
Thanks a lot for two very entertaining hours!
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Steve Perry from journey should be considered in AT LEAST the top ten vocalists. Always makes me mad he’s never mentioned in top singer lists.
That spasm that wakes you when napping is a non-voluntary signal from the brain worried you are dying and sending a jolt of electricity through your body to revive you.
So all this time I was just dying? :O. And I thought it was just me dreaming about rolling off the bed :D.
Listened to the whole thing after thinking that I would just jump around. I have to go look up that SOS singer they both raved about.
For you link to SOS (from his digital concert during the pandemic) czcams.com/video/AUARjexCTlQ/video.html , epic Stranger czcams.com/video/lFsB5HVnmSA/video.html from festival where Dimash was a judge and performed as a guest, and tender, wonderful Ikanaide from his last Tokyo Jazz Festival also during pandemic from home studio czcams.com/video/8mM-bp5PB34/video.html Enjoy 👍Dear
How many people here.. was shouting dimash kudaibergen being number 1, then they finally said his name, we be like YEAAAAAA!!!
She clearly no said this but Dimash is Top 10 the best singers of all time.
She said Ronnie James Dio and Pavarotti first and imediatly.
I would absolutely watch it, if you two made more videos like this
It amazes me how much chemistry there seems to be between JH & EZ. For two people who do not really know each other - they seem so comfortable just chatting away. They come across as old friends.
They really don't. She's enthusiastic about her subject but she is anxious throughout and is immensely uncomfortable. Body language does not lie. Justin is comfortable. There is a difference.
@@hellfirepictures No she doesn’t, you fool. Get off the internet with your pseudo scientific drivel. You are so way of the mark your comment is embarrassing.
Great to listen to you both the extremes inner outer. Justin did great with Wolf Van Halen. I wish Wolf would do harder rock style though.
What an absolutely lovely interview. Elizabeth is extremely technical - as can Justin be, when he wants. Regardless of what he puts on :P
Fascinating, and isn't she a wonderful, lovely, clever lady. This is an amazing interview. More of a proper 2 way conversation than an interview. The way you two clicked and talked so naturally with such honesty - so interesting and what good watching for me as a total non singer. Justin I'm glad you took that time out to recover - the world is clearly a better place with you in it
Just want to add - you're both brilliant to watch, your expressions!
Thanks for this very informing and interesting conversation! One learns so much from you. And thanks for including Dimash Qudaibergen 🥰
Ngl Charismatic Voice might be one of the best vocal reaction channels...I mean who else is getting interviews with some of the people they review?!?
I have listened to each of them our their own podcasts and when Elizabeth analyzed Justin, I thought how nice it would be if they had a mutual broadcast and now it's come to pass, This 74 year old weekend hippie/punk ate it up. Such sweet chemistry.
This is the second (?) time that I've seen Elizabeth featured on someone else's channel. That is in itself, a great testament to who she is. I have been subscribed (now a patron) for what? 3 yrs. now? Doesn't matter. Those who've not before seen her, this IS The Charismatic Voice. Nothing phony here. And I'll say the same for Justin. They made for a pleasurable conversation in which we were invited to listen in on. Great video!
This podcast makes me smile. thank you, Justin and Elizabeth!!!
That feeling when you're having a great time listening to these two chat, then you worry that it's approaching the end... And you realize there's still like two hours left 🤩
😂
Thing with Dimash is that he's shown what he can do. His technical skills are incredible. But I don't think he's found his music yet.
His voice is incredible, unlike anything I've ever heard, but I just don't think any of the songs he has sung suits him.
Like you said, the collier of vocals. For singing nerds it's great to be able to nerd out over how impressive it is of what can be done and how great that little bit sounds. But music can be too complex to be appealing.
For collier though I think he just really enjoys that complexity and nerding it out with other music fans that also enjoy the complexity. But with Dimash I just get the feeling like he's trying to be too many things at once and doesn't know where to go.
Elizabeth Zharoff no said than Dimash is the collier of vocals but she said than his voice fantastic.
Yes! I was hoping for this conversation to happen!❤
I think I have a tiny crush on Elizabeth. She's just so enthusiastic and passionate. It's hard not to love her.
Her reaction to the space Kraken in her reaction video was just too adorable
I wish she would have asked you to sing the Operatic section from any Queen song..you know the tune, words and from there she could have worked on vowels etc..
Or maybe I'm dieing to hear you and her record all harmonic parts from Bohemian Rapsody- on a 4 track - acapella, even..
❤ that would be smashing..
Even if she sang her parts purely Operatic and you brought your best rock n roller voice or even channel Freddie ...id love to see what the two of you cook up in a session..❤
1:40:56 Dimash is the best👍🏼👍🏼
But for Elizabeth still no, who depends of his longevity.
quite interesting to see two musician /vocalists and music lovers from different ends of the spectrum compare notes and explain the risks and damage singers have to go through to deliver a performance ... would love to see a crossover where justin sings one of elizabeths opera songs in that style and elizabeth sings one of justins songs in a rock voice .... just for science reasons lol ..
YES! This is totally awesome that you did this interview! I saw her review of the Darkness, then your review of her review. This was such a great video! Thanks to both you and Elizabeth!
I really don't care about the techniques of singing I love the music, but that was interesting as hell.
Love it when people love their craft Peace and love to you both
Finally!!!!? Can't thank you enough guys. Love you both. Cheers from India. ❤🤘🏽
This was cracking! Just a joy to watch , didn’t feel like over 2 hours! So interesting. The biggest thing that struck me was the total respect each had for the other. I just love how Justin was making her giggle as well.
You two really should do something regularly. Both simply get it.
Hi Justin, big fan, didn't know you live in Switzerland - as a fellow expat there, I had to laugh at your comment about 'finding it expensive, even for Switzerland!!', I've used the same phrase myself a few times about things! Tea is on me if you are ever at a loose end in Zurich! :D
I don't remember ever being so content just listening to two people chatting back and forth...
This was one of the nicest and most informative interviews on the topic of vocals that I've seen online. Could listen to you guys discussing voice and technique for hours.
2 hours wasn't close to enough.
I love this style of pseudo therapy/story telling/vocal lesson this developed into
I honestly love both of you. You both have this positive, warm energy that is infectious. I was excited to see a video of you two together!
I knew this was going to happen! It's so cool to see these 2 discussing voice together.
Liz is making the world a better place. My singing had improved since learning to think of things such as placement etc.. which I hardly thought of before. I only aped what the singers did, but that doesn't help when you have to make it your own because of the range.
The Case of Cimmanin Graingehill! You guys are the best! Thanks for this conversation!
Long time for me too, Justin. It is great that you hit the breaking point long before many people do. I hit mine when I was 27. Funny early recovery I went to a meeting and heard a woman say she was 9 years sober and was just starting to face reality. It took me a long time too. You are helping others so much by being an example. Love this interview. It is now my 4th watch.
I have enjoyed following Justin's channel. He is knowledgeable and a true musician! Looking forward to seeing the Darkness!
Vocal nerdiness to the max and I’m here for it!
What a great interview! 2 hours that flew by. What a pair of nice, humble people, talking about something they love.
People don't realize how hard it is to feel normal again after quitting drugs. It takes weeks/months just for your body to start feeling better and I think a lot longer for your mind. You have to retrain yourself how to talk to people without drugs and alcohol as a crutch. It's a lot of work, but it's worth it and you definitely have to want it. Justin Hawkins should be a huge inspiration for anyone, whether they like his music or not. Love this channel ♥️
Heard this episode on Spotify and had to come back for the visuals. This was such enjoyable and engrossing episode that I managed to burn family dinner - kids were not impressed!
I'm glad that there's hoping nearly any voice can be trained as my singing is pretty awful. Once my dad told me after a minute of my delightful singing when I was a teenager - "Sweetie, you sing beautifully but too long!" and he's really tolerant guy overall...
Thanks guys for the amazing episode!
😂 easy to burn dinner listening to these 2! I sympathize!
2 beautiful humans, thank you.
Could the developers of CZcams ever have envisaged just how indispensable their platform was going to become? Things like this should be archived for evermore.
That was absolutely fascinating! I checked out Dimash Q. since I had never heard of him and wow, he was fantastic! Great content here. Loved it, thanks!