Professor Kirby - you need to ask yourself the question who started this trade war? No use putting equal blames on both countries when it is obvious that the US wants to finish off China and all the bad things have been started by the US in recent years, not benefitting ordinary Americans. If the US put a sanction or tariff on China, don't think China will sit there doing nothing like a fool. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction - we all learnt this in school in our physics lesson. Of course China will do something bad to the US after been slapped a tariff of more than one hundred percent. Not 100 percent, more than 100 percent. And don't tell me that Chinese governments support Chinese companies. The US does the same. Only poor Europe is not doing this because they don't have the money to support their own companies.
The civil aviation industry is the next field where cooperation with China is essential for Boeing to survive and not to file bankruptcy or simply disappear from earth !
Unfortunately for Boeing, due to the increasing list of sanctioned products that U.S. companies and their affiliates are not allowed to be sold to China, this has made the Chinese particularly nervous as to when and which products will next fall before the U.S. President's axe. Consequently, this has accelerated China's own development of its "Yangtse CJ1000 and CJ2000" high by-pass turbofan engines to replace the Boeing- Safran "LEAP" engines in use in its Comac C919 and C929 planes. This means that instead of purchasing Boeing 737 Max planes and "LEAP" engines, they will slowly disappear into the sinking sunset and is what happens when customers are made to feel uncertain of their relationship with their seller. It is a strange way to treat your customers actually - the Australians found out when their previous Prime Minister began making salaciously insulting remarks about China and the Chinese slashed their purchasing of a swath of farm and mining produce from Australia and turned to alternate partners who were only eager for the extra business. It took a change in government which is more amenable to the Chinese that trade relationships began to return to normal.
As the Biden administration has been gradually institutionalizing cold-war 2.0 fashion against China, that kind of trust has been irreversibly broken, so neither sides wants to compromise their own supply chain for that kind of cooperation. Besides, the Union seems the big headache thing or roadblock to the cooperation.
@@pingpong7810 There is NO Xinjiang country, its a PROVINCE ! No Facebook in China, not limited to Xinjiang only. Firstly, FB was use by extremist and terrorist to cause negative sentiment and plan terrorist attacks in Xinjiang. Lastly, FB did not want to abide by China's laws and business laws i.e local server, hence they are NOT in China. Its the same where US is demanding Tiktok to have a US server which Tiktok abides and running off oracle.
You do the intellectuals above a disservice by putting their analysis in the same ethno-centric neo-colonial bucket as Prof Kirby in this biased video clip. Kirby tries to blame China jointly or "mutually" for our egregiously self-destructive technology policies. Prosperity and Peace require an honest reckoning that our hegemony is over
Professor Kirby! I took your ChinaX lessons on Edx. They were great! What I learned is the USA right now is quite similar to the last years of the Qing Dynasty. The old emperess CiXi ruled until she dropped dead, then they coronated a 3 year old Puyi. That was what I saw in last night's debate. It's just unbelievable that Biden was about to drop dead any second. And oh yes, the Qing was against all foreigners, couldn't make up their mind whether the foreigners were barbarians or advanced aliens😵💫
Americans definitely have democracy, big question about freedom, yeah you can talk and talk, no action, coming along national security, who is or are doing it to America?
According to the Oxford Dictionary, Democracy is A political system that allows the citizens to participate in political decision‐making, or to elect representatives to government bodies. In the US, it definitely has a election system, but does the citizens really participate in the decision making? It seems the capitalists/the rich controls the decision making while majority who cannot give significant donations has no influence at all. In terms of national security, how can someone in drowning in debt ever feel secured?
@@pingpong7810 There is NO Xinjiang country, its a PROVINCE ! No Facebook in China, not limited to Xinjiang only. Firstly, FB was use by extremist and terrorist to cause negative sentiment and plan terrorist attacks in Xinjiang. Lastly, FB did not want to abide by China's laws and business laws i.e local server, hence they are NOT in China. Its the same where US is demanding Tiktok to have a US server which Tiktok abides and running off oracle.
Because they are not good campaign funders. The American political systems is driven by campaign funding. First the 2 parties have conspired to pass all sorts of rules and regulations That block all other 3rd parties from gaining any representation or seats in the legislative bodies of the United States both at the federal and state level. Then within those 2 parties if you can't raise money you ain't going nowhere in either party. 3/4 of their entire time of an elected official term is spent raising money for their political campaigns, not governing. The other 1/4 of the time is spent implementing policies and will through legislation that will benefit their largest donors. Hence why the United States is in the shape it is.
Ikr. Why can't we just have a website of bios on all the candidates, their morals, credentials, and action plans. We also need more referendums to vote on issues instead of representation and make special interest lobbying illegal!
I hope Havard intellectuals could figure out or do a forum about " how to collaborate with China while avoiding political suicide" for politicians and law makers in US. If this is not resolved, US will never ever think about improving relation with China. Currently being anti China helps their political career as seen in Western world. And pro-US countries like Philipine, Japan and South Korea. Luckily Australia woke up, and New Zealand is always sober.
Professor Kirby starts with framing that implies our policy dysfunction results from policy choices by both nations: " happening as a result of the policies of both countries" in a sentence closing with " and in particular those in this case of the United States" ... implies a false narrative of both side-ism. Cognitive distortion: His assertion that protectionism is mutual [Washington and Beijing when in point of fact our100% tariffs are not mutual in the least He pejoratively calls China paranoid for believing our government is deliberately attempting to deny China technological advancement when in fact that is the avowed policy of our government. Pathetic: our national policy attempting the "Tanya Harding" strategy of knee capping China instead of competing honestly.... and sadly also the cognitive dissonance evident in the false framing of mutual responsibility when our self destructive clean energy policy of containment is a bed of our own making.
The Professor's talking points are exactly China's talking points. There is no difference whatsoever. No mention of the incredible open, generous, and gracious support of America for China over the last 30 years. Not even a thank you from China. Just hostility, hacking, spy balloons etc. China took full advantage of American diplomats and played them for fools over the last 3 decades. China is where they are because #1), the hard work and intelligence of the Chinese people and #2) because of American support technologically, open markets, keeping the south China Sea open for commerce, etc.. Americans can't even buy property in China while China certainly can. Reciprocity in hundreds of ways has been non-existent. So America is finally waking up.
THe US' problem is that it has developed a huge inferiority complex, therefore it can not see itself competing with anyone, much less China. It is also stuck in the 1950s mentality, when it was a real super power and could bully other nations. It certainly could still bully nations like Syria, Afghanistan and some nations in Africa. But it's learning really quick that China is a different story all together. While the US was busy waging multiple wars all over the place, China was busy educating its citizens, building infrastructure, creating prosperity for its citizens, and building healthy and respectful relations with other nations. IMO if anyhone nation deserves our respect, and should be emulated, it's China.
😮😮 A COUPLA OF YRARS IN TOTAL ECONOMIC DECOUPLING MAY BE YYE ANSWER RATHET THAN TULHID PRESSURE COOKER US=CHINA SEETHIBG ANIMODITY N ABRASIVR RELATIONS FROM BECOMING IVERLY ADMDVERSARIA
Hmm ..would rather listen to a business person who has signed the front of a check and has succeeded ... instead of a lifelong teacher who hasn't created a thing ...
I used to admire US democracy and tech. Not anymore...sorry. As for China, they are making great strides in their development. But they need to have better relations with their neighbours. I certainly don't like being coerced or bullied. If they stop all that, they can become a great nation and leader.
You think you are wise, but it is exactly your kind of "wisdom" will lead the country down to hell. Perhaps you should think twice abt your "wisdom" as well as his "naive" idea.
Erm where have you been in the last 40 years? Requiring joint venture with a local company where the FDI does not maintain full control is a form of protectionism. Since we are watching a Q&A on clean tech so cars are on topic, Tesla is the only foreign brand allowed in China with full ownership mainly because Tesla came late into the market. Policies like these are not unique to China but it is a form of Protectionism to enable domestic brands to have a shot to grow and mature instead of totally crushed by more advanced and larger foreign brands. So Tesla got it good since by the time it enters the China market, the domestic brands have grown and matured and can compete on a global basis. This is just one example. The main difference here is China tells you straight to your face while Murica makes up BS excuses to protect their “good guys” image that really only exist in their political elites minds.
This is why a country should be run by scholars and engineers instead of politicians and lawyers.
Most American politicians are lawyers.
Most Chinese politicians are engineers.
Poor voters only have a choice to choose from both senile old folks for president.
Bingo
Why is a sensible scholar willing to be part of that dirty presidential election game?
No wonder why identity politics is everywhere in America... 😕 Engineers won't play the identity card, but surely lawyers and politicians will.
Professor Kirby - you need to ask yourself the question who started this trade war? No use putting equal blames on both countries when it is obvious that the US wants to finish off China and all the bad things have been started by the US in recent years, not benefitting ordinary Americans.
If the US put a sanction or tariff on China, don't think China will sit there doing nothing like a fool. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction - we all learnt this in school in our physics lesson. Of course China will do something bad to the US after been slapped a tariff of more than one hundred percent. Not 100 percent, more than 100 percent.
And don't tell me that Chinese governments support Chinese companies. The US does the same. Only poor Europe is not doing this because they don't have the money to support their own companies.
Wise words.
The civil aviation industry is the next field where cooperation with China is essential for Boeing to survive and not to file bankruptcy or simply disappear from earth !
Unfortunately for Boeing, due to the increasing list of sanctioned products that U.S. companies and their affiliates are not allowed to be sold to China, this has made the Chinese particularly nervous as to when and which products will next fall before the U.S. President's axe. Consequently, this has accelerated China's own development of its "Yangtse CJ1000 and CJ2000" high by-pass turbofan engines to replace the Boeing- Safran "LEAP" engines in use in its Comac C919 and C929 planes. This means that instead of purchasing Boeing 737 Max planes and "LEAP" engines, they will slowly disappear into the sinking sunset and is what happens when customers are made to feel uncertain of their relationship with their seller.
It is a strange way to treat your customers actually - the Australians found out when their previous Prime Minister began making salaciously insulting remarks about China and the Chinese slashed their purchasing of a swath of farm and mining produce from Australia and turned to alternate partners who were only eager for the extra business. It took a change in government which is more amenable to the Chinese that trade relationships began to return to normal.
As the Biden administration has been gradually institutionalizing cold-war 2.0 fashion against China, that kind of trust has been irreversibly broken, so neither sides wants to compromise their own supply chain for that kind of cooperation. Besides, the Union seems the big headache thing or roadblock to the cooperation.
No way it's national security issue 😅
Boeing success or failure is largely due to poor management and drug addicted work forces.
No chance of cooperation. More likely a ban of Comac 919 by the U.S. since it directly competes with Boeing and Airbus.
Harvard Professor William Kirby - very well said!
Xinjiang country no Facebook 🌎
Troll is at work again!!!@@pingpong7810
@@pingpong7810 There is NO Xinjiang country, its a PROVINCE ! No Facebook in China, not limited to Xinjiang only. Firstly, FB was use by extremist and terrorist to cause negative sentiment and plan terrorist attacks in Xinjiang. Lastly, FB did not want to abide by China's laws and business laws i.e local server, hence they are NOT in China. Its the same where US is demanding Tiktok to have a US server which Tiktok abides and running off oracle.
You don’t have TikTok@@pingpong7810
@@pingpong7810 VPN la. Think w/ UR head, not UR Rs
Great men think alike - prof Kirby, Sachs, Wolff, Kishore, Vijay Prasad, etc.. heed their advice for prosperity and peace.
Unfortunately western politicians are dum deaf to understand anything except those being propagated by sinophobian
You do the intellectuals above a disservice by putting their analysis in the same ethno-centric neo-colonial bucket as Prof Kirby in this biased video clip. Kirby tries to blame China jointly or "mutually" for our egregiously self-destructive technology policies.
Prosperity and Peace require an honest reckoning that our hegemony is over
Professor Kirby! I took your ChinaX lessons on Edx. They were great!
What I learned is the USA right now is quite similar to the last years of the Qing Dynasty. The old emperess CiXi ruled until she dropped dead, then they coronated a 3 year old Puyi. That was what I saw in last night's debate. It's just unbelievable that Biden was about to drop dead any second. And oh yes, the Qing was against all foreigners, couldn't make up their mind whether the foreigners were barbarians or advanced aliens😵💫
I can't imagine if one of the old folks became US president. The same happened when Mao senior age which had caused much damage to China.
Great talks, thanks. . Acceptance and cooperation are the ways human history and civilization are made.
And also blood and hatred. Unfortunately.
cooperation is good for mankind.
But not in the West though.
@@gregwang8628it’s because of the zero-sum attitudes.
BYD is listed in Hong Kong stock market for free trade.
China is merely reacting to what the US is doing.
Americans definitely have democracy, big question about freedom, yeah you can talk and talk, no action, coming along national security, who is or are doing it to America?
Xinjiang country no Facebook 🌎
According to the Oxford Dictionary, Democracy is A political system that allows the citizens to participate in political decision‐making, or to elect representatives to government bodies. In the US, it definitely has a election system, but does the citizens really participate in the decision making? It seems the capitalists/the rich controls the decision making while majority who cannot give significant donations has no influence at all.
In terms of national security, how can someone in drowning in debt ever feel secured?
its the Zionist Wolfowitz gang
@@pingpong7810 There is NO Xinjiang country, its a PROVINCE ! No Facebook in China, not limited to Xinjiang only. Firstly, FB was use by extremist and terrorist to cause negative sentiment and plan terrorist attacks in Xinjiang. Lastly, FB did not want to abide by China's laws and business laws i.e local server, hence they are NOT in China. Its the same where US is demanding Tiktok to have a US server which Tiktok abides and running off oracle.
@@pingpong7810 Xinjiang is a provincial city of China, not a country.
What is so good about Facebook? Keep it.
Well said... The insecurities of the self proclaimed leader of the free world is mind blowing.. they see ghosts everywhere
It's too bad that there are too few wise men like Professor Kirby in the United States.
Very instructive indeed. Make wealth not war and both USA and China win.
Japan was pressured by the US into signing the Plaza Accord and thus crippling its own economy.
After so many years people still believe this myth
Trade wars and Tariff never win,
Why are knowledgeable and intelligent people like the professor not our policy makers, is it the system of selecting policy makers broken……?
Too much lobbying.
No, it’s by design.
Because they are not good campaign funders.
The American political systems is driven by campaign funding.
First the 2 parties have conspired to pass all sorts of rules and regulations That block all other 3rd parties from gaining any representation or seats in the legislative bodies of the United States both at the federal and state level.
Then within those 2 parties if you can't raise money you ain't going nowhere in either party.
3/4 of their entire time of an elected official term is spent raising money for their political campaigns, not governing.
The other 1/4 of the time is spent implementing policies and will through legislation that will benefit their largest donors.
Hence why the United States is in the shape it is.
Ikr. Why can't we just have a website of bios on all the candidates, their morals, credentials, and action plans. We also need more referendums to vote on issues instead of representation and make special interest lobbying illegal!
The chair is huge.
Realistic and honest view on the issues and reasonable solutions.
BYD is opening a plant in Mexico and they have stated that they plan to sell to Latin America
Next big thing is electric commercial plane from CATL which has already developed a "condensed" battery with energy density of 500wh/kg
Great talk. You only wish more American would listen.
The Chinese are “paranoid” about them……hahaha. Yes, the Chinese have long memories, they study history and they can think.
I hope Havard intellectuals could figure out or do a forum about " how to collaborate with China while avoiding political suicide" for politicians and law makers in US. If this is not resolved, US will never ever think about improving relation with China.
Currently being anti China helps their political career as seen in Western world. And pro-US countries like Philipine, Japan and South Korea. Luckily Australia woke up, and New Zealand is always sober.
There is no such private companies in China, all are controlled one way or another by the party!
Fear of America's decline!
Dear professor, US has to Dominant everything! Most American agree with this.😂😂😂
Professor Kirby starts with framing that implies our policy dysfunction results from policy choices by both nations: " happening as a result of the policies of both countries" in a sentence closing with " and in particular those in this case of the United States" ... implies a false narrative of both side-ism.
Cognitive distortion:
His assertion that protectionism is mutual [Washington and Beijing when in point of fact our100% tariffs are not mutual in the least
He pejoratively calls China paranoid for believing our government is deliberately attempting to deny China technological advancement when in fact that is the avowed policy of our government.
Pathetic: our national policy attempting the "Tanya Harding" strategy of knee capping China instead of competing honestly.... and sadly also the cognitive dissonance evident in the false framing of mutual responsibility when our self destructive clean energy policy of containment is a bed of our own making.
Agreed with your take. But if the professor said it, I doubt he could remain in Harvard for long.
The Professor's talking points are exactly China's talking points. There is no difference whatsoever. No mention of the incredible open, generous, and gracious support of America for China over the last 30 years. Not even a thank you from China. Just hostility, hacking, spy balloons etc. China took full advantage of American diplomats and played them for fools over the last 3 decades. China is where they are because #1), the hard work and intelligence of the Chinese people and #2) because of American support technologically, open markets, keeping the south China Sea open for commerce, etc.. Americans can't even buy property in China while China certainly can. Reciprocity in hundreds of ways has been non-existent. So America is finally waking up.
THe US' problem is that it has developed a huge inferiority complex, therefore it can not see itself competing with anyone, much less China. It is also stuck in the 1950s mentality, when it was a real super power and could bully other nations. It certainly could still bully nations like Syria, Afghanistan and some nations in Africa. But it's learning really quick that China is a different story all together. While the US was busy waging multiple wars all over the place, China was busy educating its citizens, building infrastructure, creating prosperity for its citizens, and building healthy and respectful relations with other nations. IMO if anyhone nation deserves our respect, and should be emulated, it's China.
Hagemony selfish interest is the root.. Talk talk waste of time. World share care is the way
I am shocked, there is an adult in America.🤨🤨
Chinese friends? You think China is our friend? You a card carrier professor?
😮😮 A COUPLA OF YRARS IN TOTAL ECONOMIC DECOUPLING MAY BE YYE ANSWER RATHET THAN TULHID PRESSURE COOKER US=CHINA SEETHIBG ANIMODITY N ABRASIVR RELATIONS FROM BECOMING IVERLY ADMDVERSARIA
American decline is REAL.
Hmm ..would rather listen to a business person who has signed the front of a check and has succeeded ... instead of a lifelong teacher who hasn't created a thing ...
I used to admire US democracy and tech. Not anymore...sorry. As for China, they are making great strides in their development. But they need to have better relations with their neighbours. I certainly don't like being coerced or bullied. If they stop all that, they can become a great nation and leader.
China is very respectful of the sovereignty of its neighbors. Everything is negotiable in a civilized manner as it should be.
With all due respect, sir, you are being naive.
You think you are wise, but it is exactly your kind of "wisdom" will lead the country down to hell. Perhaps you should think twice abt your "wisdom" as well as his "naive" idea.
Study history before you accuse others of being naive.
it would be a nightmare if China has American politician mindset, and this fears many American citizen.
THIS TUPO GIRL LEI JINGJING IS AI ROBOT TALK HISTORY LIKE WANG WENBIN IS AI ROBOT TALK HISTORY 🦜
XINJIANG COUNTRY NO FACEBOOK 🌎
Mutual protectionism???!?!!!??¿¿¿¿???
Protectionism in Beijing???????
Show me!
Erm where have you been in the last 40 years? Requiring joint venture with a local company where the FDI does not maintain full control is a form of protectionism. Since we are watching a Q&A on clean tech so cars are on topic, Tesla is the only foreign brand allowed in China with full ownership mainly because Tesla came late into the market. Policies like these are not unique to China but it is a form of Protectionism to enable domestic brands to have a shot to grow and mature instead of totally crushed by more advanced and larger foreign brands. So Tesla got it good since by the time it enters the China market, the domestic brands have grown and matured and can compete on a global basis. This is just one example. The main difference here is China tells you straight to your face while Murica makes up BS excuses to protect their “good guys” image that really only exist in their political elites minds.
who the hell cares? oh he's from harvard? like we give a fuck
Your side seems to talk with emotion instead of logic. Bravo.
Which university are you from ? Trump university?
The real American is here😂
Maga?
If you don’t care then why did you come to watch this? Your brain lost control of your bodily functions or something lol?