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I'm old enough to remember when Bank and Monument were on the map as separate stations, with a zigzag line between the two marked as "escalator connection".
I remember the zig zag on the map but not the actual zig zag which I assume was a travellator which was permanently broken. Was it a travellator and was it on the long walk between Monument and Bank?
In terms of walking distance, Monument, Cannon street and Mansion House are 3 mins from Bank. Therefore it would make sense to connect all three together like Bank and Monument did.
DLR: hey, what did I miss? Other lines: nothing much, you gonna call your station bank or what? Best thing I have ever heard this morning Edit: thx for the heart ❤, love your content dude! Keep up the amazing work!
Thanks Jago. Bank, the station I used every weekday for 4 years back in the 1980s. Back then there really was a reason for the constant haunting warning audio announcement of "Mind The Gap" as in some parts of the curved platform on the Central line, there was a gap of about a foot, which many a foot used to fall into it. I remember once, having to grab hold of a gentlemen and support him as he clambered into the carriage having lost his footing. Also worthy of mention is the horrific bombing of Bank station on the 11th January 1941 which saw 51 people dead and many more injured. The government censored the news of the bombing at the time so as, I assume, not to cause panic amongst those using the Underground as shelter during the Blitz? Coming from Woodford and working in Cannon Street, I made the mistake on the first day, just once, of walking through the overcrowded connecting corridors from Bank to Monument. Never again. Far easier getting out the station and walking across the road, past the Bank of China, to Cannon Street. Canon being the name of the Japanese Camera company as well as referring to a series of books with a connecting theme. Cannon being the large gun, from the Hebrew word "Kanneh" for a long hollow cane.
I don't think I've ever done the Bank to Monument walk before, but I did once walk through from the Northern Line platforms to the Waterloo and City line platforms. It was hot, crowded, felt like miles and it took bloody ages. Not a fan!
Perhaps if there were different tile patterns at each of those many exits surrounding the ticket hall, I just might emerge in the right street at least once ........
If going to the bank of England from the north, alight at Moorgate and walk, the escalators are easier. Ditto if on the met. If you come into london from liverpool street its easier to walk from there too.
Probably the only comparably tricky tube station is the new Kings Cross St Pancras. You can get where you need to go by following the signs, but in some cases it's definitely not the shortest route.
@@JagoHazzard "I thank you"... Shades of Arthur Askey, who if you are old enough to remember him, starred in an old British film called The Ghost Train.
Bank - Monument - the station that makes a round of Mornington Crescent make perfect sense. Thinking about it, you could actually play a round of Mornington Crescent just using the names for Bank
Monument and Bank should remain as separate stations with an underground passenger tunnel. Otherwise once Crossrail opens, Moregate would need to be renamed Liverpool Street, and a number of other stations would also be joined (Euston, King Cross, St Pancras), etc
@Joe Ross I thoroughly support that idea. It comes with the mind boggling consequence that from every entrance there would have to be directions to every line, like a 3-D crossword puzzle.
Such brilliant stuff. I rarely go to London, but the Tube is magic. The noise, the smells, the tiles, the names. The genius behind it all. Admittedly I'm only ever a visitor, but if you're a Londoner, don't take it forgranted.
@@matienlaciudad Good to hear one set survives....... we used it quite regularly getting about but sadly only the underground stations so sadly didn't get any photos, not least because the security staff back then were very "no photographa".....😔
Perhaps one day I shall visit BA again. I didn't get the chance to use the metro, although I do still have a metro token as a souvenir because someone gave it to me in my change from buying something. I did at least walk across the world's widest street, though!
Once again I learned the hard way that Bank and Monument are exactly the same station (the converse being when I learned that Edgware Road is two separate stations). At least I got in my daily steps that day. Walking from Bank to Monument then back to Bank when you're running late is better than a HIIT cardio workout.
In days of my youth there were two distinct types of passengers used Monument (City gents and their staff) and Bank (the peasants) and after 6.00 pm (18.00 ) Monument was quiet and quite ghostly. The Travelator made an enormous difference to the cross-transit. I've blessed it a few times.....
If Bank and Monument stations followed the ttc's naming convention, they'd have combined the station names with a hyphen. We have Bloor-Yonge and Sheppard-Yonge stations. Bank-Monument station has a nicer ring to it and clearly signifies that both stations are in the same place, are connected to each other and can be accessed without going to street level
I have never timed it, but I would lay good money on it taking me longer to walk from platform level to the correct exit than it does from the exit for Cannon Street
Absolute,y facinating, I worked in the city for 24 yrs and didn't know any of this. Not only is the history facinating but also great to see how things are looking now. I really miss the city and all the quirky places so thank you for bringing it to me! P.s. I love all yr vids☺☺
When I started work in 1980, I'd get off my Southern train at Cannon St, go down into tube, go one stop to Monument, change to the Central Line, and venture west to Chancery Lane. It was only when I walked to Cannon St with a colleague one sunny evening I realised the error of my ways. Obviously, I'd never tell anyone about it. That would be embarrassing.
As always, informative and entertaining. I've subscribed a while ago but never really wrote any comment but I always appreciate the content and your commentary style. Thank you for running this channel!
Fun Fact: The Ticket Hall of Bank station was formerly the crypt/charnel house of an ancient City church. Thousands of cartloads of ancient bones were removed from this space and re interred in a massive pit grave at the East London cemetery in Plaistow. This work was all done by horse and cart, so imagine a never ending trail of contractors' wagons winding their way down the high streets of the East End laden with mouldering human bones.
I'd love to see Jago on the Weakest Link, everyone else shouting Bank while he's shouting Eastcheap, King William Street, City, Monument and Cannon Street.
If you find Bank & Monument confusing, you should check Opera/Auber/Havre Caumartin/Haussmann Saint Lazare/Saint Lazare/Saint Augustin stations in Paris. The construction of Auber station of the RER A in 1971 linked Opera (lines 3, 7, 8) metro with Havre Caumartin (lines 3, 9). Then in 1999, the opening of the RER E station Haussmann Saint Lazare linked Havre Caumartin (lines 3, 9) with Saint-Lazare (lines 3, 12, 13 back then) In 2003, the opening of Saint-Lazare platforms of metro line 14 linked Saint Lazare with Saint Augustin (line 9). It means that line 3 has three stations in this massive complex and line 9 two stations. You can walk with a single ticket from one side to another.
All pretty straightforward really, I'm not quite sure what all the fuss is about. That said, if it were down to me, I would rename the station, reverting each bit to its original name. It may well share a ticket hall, but each set of platforms would have its own name. Far less confusing to the novice traveller I think you'll find! 😊
Mr Hazzard, what can I say but simply the best. Love the material and the videos but you make this history so enjoyable. If I had this as a kid I would have been so much more interested in history! A very very big thank you!
There are safety issues at Monument station. Access to the Northern line platforms, which are closer to Monument, is via the previously busy District/City line platform. So Bank is the declared Northern line station and will have a Cannon Street access to take Monument out of the loop as much as is possible.
Thankyou for another extremely interesting and informative episode. My favourite series on CZcams, even more so than ColinFurze building the underground tunnel from his secret bunker to his house (via the shed)
I love Bank Station. As you enter the station through the building that straddles Cornhill &Queen Victoria Street, look up and you can see the mosaic tiled interior space leading upwards, that always makes me smile. If you stand across the road at Jewry and look up you can see the roof garden which I also like.
Multiple, unconnected stations with the same name, must be balanced with single stations with multiple names. For god sakes Man, isn't that obvious? Oh yes, Jago, now you're hitting form. 00:53 This all sounds like a Monumental stuff up.
Living on the landmass close by, the one east of Britain, and with Corona, no money for traveling and all, your channel has been like a window to London for me during the past year. One of the places I was lucky enough to be spending at least a few days at, almost each year. Thank you. Not to mention the great content and one of the wittiest followings on the internet (judging by the comment section).
Jago I think I am at that point now where I know more about British rail history and current lines than I know about the order of the train stations here in Sydney Australia. Keep the great information and videos coming
Here in Newcastle, the interlinking crossover maze-like station is called Monument, named after Grey's Monument, he of Earl Grey Tea fame. There are some banks nearby but that's irrelevant. Passages lead to Eldon Square which is not a square but a shopping complex. The real Eldon Square is a square but not a shopping complex nearby within spitting distance of the Metro Station we all know and love as Monument.
In my time as a marker researcher, doing surveys both overt and covert, Bank/Monument was always the one I dreaded. It's hot as hell, takes ages to get around and during the refurb some years ago, the exits seemed to change as I looked at them. It does however have decent toilets. Even the staff move between the two stations via the street because it's much quicker..
the NYC subway may have it's share of unconnected same name stops, and smaller station complexes where the stations have entirely different names; but at least the larger multi line station complexes have a unified name.
I used the underground today and used bank as the Met/Circle/Distr is closed, its a hot station definitely. I did think to myself when I was reading the map why the two stations are connected on map although two different names, thank you for clearing it up.
Visited the bank area for the first time in 15 years a few weeks back - wasn’t thrilled having to exit via the central line platform - it was very warm by the time I finally got up to Lombard street Was nice to revisit though 👍
It's funny, as someone from New York, multiple, unconnected stations of the same name is completely normal here. Major cross streets in Manhattan often have two or three subway stops on different lines; there are five 23rd Street stations on each trunk line! We even have two 36th Street and two 7th Avenue stops, each in completely different boroughs!
Now imagine a lot of big improvements coming in Bank\Monument - entrances, lifts, escalators and wider and shorter corridors. On top of all there's a plan to completely integrate Cannon street into Bank\Monument complex. I mean complete underground interchange.
In addition to two Edgware Roads and Hammersmiths there are also two Paddingtons. You can walk between the two Paddingtons but there are two station buildings so it is considered two stations despite being connected underground I've been noticing some of the signs at station entrances sometimes simply say 'station' as in Chesham Station, while others say 'Underground Station' as in Cannon Street Underground Station. At first I thought this was to differentiate between those stations that are above ground but at least one genuinely Underground station simply has station on it's sign
I guess that now Bank has an entrance so close to Cannon Street it makes sense for Monument to stay named Monument, that way unfamiliar people close to Cannon Street who want the District know that the Bank station they're looking at isn't on the line they want.
Monument and Embankment sounds like they are near to each other with Bank right next to Bank and Embankment next to Charing Cross. No wonder it confuses lots of people, commuters and tourists that love using the Underground.
Certainly lots of stations, both underground and overground, in quite a small area for City of London workers to choose between, even if they are all a short distance apart. As a student in the 70s, I had lots of holiday temp jobs in the City, and as well as Bank/Monument, often used Cannon Street, Mansion House, Tower Hill, Liverpool Street, Moorgate and Barbican. Many commuters arriving at London Bridge railway station still seem to walk over the bridge to the City, despite the Northern Line connection. I'd guess it's less of a hassle than using the packed rush-hour tube and gives them a chance to stretch their legs of a morning (and evening).
A question. The London Underground is famous for its "mind the gap" warning announcements. It is my contention that final shot of a train arriving at what I believe is the eastbound Central Lines platform at Bank shows the widest gap in the whole Tube system by dint of the extreme curve of the platform. Are there any other contenders out there? Who's going to go round the underground network with a tape measure to satisfy my curiosity as to this matter of some importance, at least to me.
@@obliviousotterI Thanks for finding that out. My life is now complete and I can die happy. That said, the shot is of the East end of the platform so I guess you have to journey up the other end to find this 375mm gap.
Good research on a confusing station. Monument was to be changed to Bank at some point while the existing Bank station it was suggested could be West Bank or W Bank. This was vetoed as W Bank it was feared would be shortened to Wank.
King William Street station is currently being merged into the widening of the Northern line platforms. I would also hazard that the Cannon Street entrance is closer to Cannon Street than it is to other Bank entrances (Lombard).
I've been excited for this video. I've wanted to know what the deal with the station was and why you disliked it when you mentioned back in another video. I have to agree the arrangement is over complicated and infuriating.
On a serous note: You showed a shot of a map! It was brief, and of one on a wall, but better than no map. I noticed you did the same in another recent video. Your viewers thank you. If you want a real challenge: you should draw a diagram of all the underground pedestrian tunnels and platforms!
In New York,there is the 42nd Street rabbit warren,connecting the 8th Avenue,6th Avenue,7th Avenue,Lexington Avenue,and the Flushing line,plus the Grand Central shuttle,all tied together by a color coded,maze! It's a bit daunting to a first time user,but old hat for long time commuters! Does the Underground color code stations like Bank/Monument,and Baker Street,as examples???? Thank you for your time and effort 👍🙏😊🙌👏🙂!
Great stuff. Away from Bank/Monument, 0:09 I'd never noticed before that they used a really odd font outside the Bakerloo Line Edgware Road station, as the G looks more like C making it look like EDCWARE ROAD STATION!
Another excellent video Jago. I used Bank station to change lines and trains as part of my daily commute pre-retirement and the connecting tunnels were always a nightmare, hot, crowded and I was never sure if I was taking the most direct route as the signage wasn't much help. I recall that my mother, who worked in the City always referred to the Waterloo and City line as "the drain", have you heard that nickname? I remember the old Southern railway units on the Waterloo and City, much nicer than the ordinary tube stock and they had the distinctive electric motor smell too. Were they 3rd rail or 3rd and forth like the tube, I don't recall?
Well, I thought Bank/Monument was complicated, but hadn't realised it was that complicated! Funny to think of the short time in 1900 when it was called City / Cornhill / Bank / Monument. Never knew Cannon Street was so close - I wonder how many people have changed at Bank, carefully taken the so-called "escalator connection" to Monument and gone one stop on the District. I seem to remember that to change from the Central to the District you basically walked along the Northern Line platforms? Sounds like the best unified name would be "Bonkers".
I'm old enough to remember when Bank and Monument were on the map as separate stations, with a zigzag line between the two marked as "escalator connection".
I'm old enough to remember "Monument for Bank"
@@pmberry I was just going to say the same thing
The Underground map on the back of my A to Z still has that!
I remember that and finally had to goto Bank from Monument and the so called escalator was out of action and required a walk on the surface, grr
I remember the zig zag on the map but not the actual zig zag which I assume was a travellator which was permanently broken. Was it a travellator and was it on the long walk between Monument and Bank?
Bank is also the closest station to the Mansion House, while Mansion House Station is two stops along the line.
Yes Mansion House station is only the third closest tube station to the actual Mansion House.
Please stop my head hurts 🤔😂
Good idea - exercise is good for people... 🤣
its also 1 of only 2 stations with all 5 vowels in it... south ealing to save people scratching their heads
In terms of walking distance, Monument, Cannon street and Mansion House are 3 mins from Bank. Therefore it would make sense to connect all three together like Bank and Monument did.
The Bank-Monument Complex is the name of my jazz band.
DLR: hey, what did I miss? Other lines: nothing much, you gonna call your station bank or what?
Best thing I have ever heard this morning
Edit: thx for the heart ❤, love your content dude! Keep up the amazing work!
"Just get off before and walk" comes very close in my opinion.
@@gilles111 yeh true
They were going to call it Canary Wharf West.
(I just made that up. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.)
@@caw25sha I've heard Moorgate South.
Obviously, you are able to bank on the confusion. There is no point in railing against it!
It was a bit of a monument-al task
"You are the Bank to my Monument" - I see what you did there ... on several levels ... maybe not all of them deliberate.
Thanks Jago. Bank, the station I used every weekday for 4 years back in the 1980s. Back then there really was a reason for the constant haunting warning audio announcement of "Mind The Gap" as in some parts of the curved platform on the Central line, there was a gap of about a foot, which many a foot used to fall into it. I remember once, having to grab hold of a gentlemen and support him as he clambered into the carriage having lost his footing.
Also worthy of mention is the horrific bombing of Bank station on the 11th January 1941 which saw 51 people dead and many more injured. The government censored the news of the bombing at the time so as, I assume, not to cause panic amongst those using the Underground as shelter during the Blitz?
Coming from Woodford and working in Cannon Street, I made the mistake on the first day, just once, of walking through the overcrowded connecting corridors from Bank to Monument. Never again. Far easier getting out the station and walking across the road, past the Bank of China, to Cannon Street.
Canon being the name of the Japanese Camera company as well as referring to a series of books with a connecting theme.
Cannon being the large gun, from the Hebrew word "Kanneh" for a long hollow cane.
I don't think I've ever done the Bank to Monument walk before, but I did once walk through from the Northern Line platforms to the Waterloo and City line platforms. It was hot, crowded, felt like miles and it took bloody ages. Not a fan!
Canon is also some sort of vicar. Afraid I can't elaborate further. Sorry.
@@caw25sha Canons are part of Cathedral staff called Chapters.
Watched this three times and I'm still (probably) more confused than Jago. Even turned on subtitles.
They would solve all the confusion if they renamed Monument station to Bank...
... and Bank station to Monument.
@@andrewgwilliam4831 Or combine them to form:
*Monument Bank*
Does anyone else watch these videos expecting you're going to end up in the background at one point?
I can see Jago working through all the tube stations I've lived near and all the ones I've worked near - and, whoops!, another one.
I’m a stealthy one.
We could have a competition for each video: Where's Jago?
Perhaps if there were different tile patterns at each of those many exits surrounding the ticket hall, I just might emerge in the right street at least once ........
If I my quote Soap, "Confused? You will be."
"What kind of names Soap anyway?"
Great reference, one I use infrequently and these days have to explain when I do.
@@snubby4624 A TV about the Tates and the Campbells. From which point the confusion starts!
Hey I remember that! One of the very few American programmes of that type I liked.
@@hairyairey Ah I thought it was from Call of Duty haha.
Getting off at Bank or Monument station is like being dropped in the middle of a maze.
If going to the bank of England from the north, alight at Moorgate and walk, the escalators are easier. Ditto if on the met. If you come into london from liverpool street its easier to walk from there too.
Probably the only comparably tricky tube station is the new Kings Cross St Pancras. You can get where you need to go by following the signs, but in some cases it's definitely not the shortest route.
Just rename all the tube stations ‘Bank’ and have done with it.
And rename London to Bank City?
i think calling all the stations Kieth would be better.
With a number after each perhaps? Bank 1, Bank 2, Bank 3, Bank 4, Bank 5 ..........
Nah:
*King William's Monumental Cannon Street Bank*
For a start, they're all officially 15 stories underground, regardless of how deep they are in metres / feet / double decker buses...
0:20 What a monumental load of bankers!
All named William King or Cheap Cannon; apparently XD.
I guess one can Bank on this interchange being a Monument to confusion in City transit....
Bank/Monument for some reason reminds of the Chatelet-Les Halles station complex on the Paris Metro.
For very similar reasons; separate stations on different lines that then got connected by long and convoluted underground walkways.
@@iankemp1131 you can say that again, as someone who lived there for a few months
Great to be here so early. Sadly no Yerkes this time.
Yeah I feel lost and confused.
Famous tube man Oxblood Yerkes.
He was hiding in the background. You had to look pretty hard.
Summer holiday
No yerkes? That might actually be good, otherwise we would have a 4 hour video if Yerkes was here.
You can always Bank on Jago to make the most informative and amusing videos. He is well deserving of a Monument to be put up in his honour!
Aye; on Cannon Street.
I do thank you!
@@JagoHazzard "I thank you"... Shades of Arthur Askey, who if you are old enough to remember him, starred in an old British film called The Ghost Train.
Bank - Monument - the station that makes a round of Mornington Crescent make perfect sense. Thinking about it, you could actually play a round of Mornington Crescent just using the names for Bank
Should not watch this so early in the morning you have sent my brain in a spin.
Monument and Bank should remain as separate stations with an underground passenger tunnel. Otherwise once Crossrail opens, Moregate would need to be renamed Liverpool Street, and a number of other stations would also be joined (Euston, King Cross, St Pancras), etc
My opinion on this is to rename both Bank and Monument stations as “Bank Interchange”.
Bonk/Manument complex.
That's a really good idea. So it would probably be dismissed out of hand if anyone suggested it to TFL. "No, we only do STUPID name changes!"
I'd rather they changed it to:
*King William's Monumental Cannon Street Bank*
Monument could be called London Bridge and Mansion House Southwark Bridge.
@Joe Ross I thoroughly support that idea. It comes with the mind boggling consequence that from every entrance there would have to be directions to every line, like a 3-D crossword puzzle.
Jago, you are the confusion to my confused brain.
Jago If the Underground was simple we wouldn't need "The Map"
Such brilliant stuff. I rarely go to London, but the Tube is magic. The noise, the smells, the tiles, the names. The genius behind it all. Admittedly I'm only ever a visitor, but if you're a Londoner, don't take it forgranted.
Me, living in Buenos Aires where every single station has its own name (even interchanges): Confusing? That's normal to me.
I used to love Line A with its early century wooded trains....👍
@@ianhudson2193 Yes! Those were beautiful! There's one formation that' was restored as is used for special trips.
@@matienlaciudad Good to hear one set survives....... we used it quite regularly getting about but sadly only the underground stations so sadly didn't get any photos, not least because the security staff back then were very "no photographa".....😔
Perhaps one day I shall visit BA again. I didn't get the chance to use the metro, although I do still have a metro token as a souvenir because someone gave it to me in my change from buying something. I did at least walk across the world's widest street, though!
@@andrewgwilliam4831 I hope you get the chance to visit us soon!
Get off at the station before and walk.... The W&C would like to have a word
Once again I learned the hard way that Bank and Monument are exactly the same station (the converse being when I learned that Edgware Road is two separate stations). At least I got in my daily steps that day. Walking from Bank to Monument then back to Bank when you're running late is better than a HIIT cardio workout.
In days of my youth there were two distinct types of passengers used Monument (City gents and their staff) and Bank (the peasants) and after 6.00 pm (18.00 ) Monument was quiet and quite ghostly. The Travelator made an enormous difference to the cross-transit. I've blessed it a few times.....
If Bank and Monument stations followed the ttc's naming convention, they'd have combined the station names with a hyphen. We have Bloor-Yonge and Sheppard-Yonge stations. Bank-Monument station has a nicer ring to it and clearly signifies that both stations are in the same place, are connected to each other and can be accessed without going to street level
I have never timed it, but I would lay good money on it taking me longer to walk from platform level to the correct exit than it does from the exit for Cannon Street
It is also quicker to get a couple of the lifts than walk the routes needed to get to the same places.
Absolute,y facinating, I worked in the city for 24 yrs and didn't know any of this. Not only is the history facinating but also great to see how things are looking now. I really miss the city and all the quirky places so thank you for bringing it to me! P.s. I love all yr vids☺☺
When I started work in 1980, I'd get off my Southern train at Cannon St, go down into tube, go one stop to Monument, change to the Central Line, and venture west to Chancery Lane. It was only when I walked to Cannon St with a colleague one sunny evening I realised the error of my ways. Obviously, I'd never tell anyone about it. That would be embarrassing.
As always, informative and entertaining. I've subscribed a while ago but never really wrote any comment but I always appreciate the content and your commentary style. Thank you for running this channel!
Fun Fact:
The Ticket Hall of Bank station was formerly the crypt/charnel house of an ancient City church.
Thousands of cartloads of ancient bones were removed from this space and re interred in a massive pit grave at the East London cemetery in Plaistow. This work was all done by horse and cart, so imagine a never ending trail of contractors' wagons winding their way down the high streets of the East End laden with mouldering human bones.
Fun
I'd love to see Jago on the Weakest Link, everyone else shouting Bank while he's shouting Eastcheap, King William Street, City, Monument and Cannon Street.
If you find Bank & Monument confusing, you should check Opera/Auber/Havre Caumartin/Haussmann Saint Lazare/Saint Lazare/Saint Augustin stations in Paris.
The construction of Auber station of the RER A in 1971 linked Opera (lines 3, 7, 8) metro with Havre Caumartin (lines 3, 9).
Then in 1999, the opening of the RER E station Haussmann Saint Lazare linked Havre Caumartin (lines 3, 9) with Saint-Lazare (lines 3, 12, 13 back then)
In 2003, the opening of Saint-Lazare platforms of metro line 14 linked Saint Lazare with Saint Augustin (line 9).
It means that line 3 has three stations in this massive complex and line 9 two stations.
You can walk with a single ticket from one side to another.
It's time for another fun round of "Bankety-Bank"!!
With your hosts; Bill King & Johnny Cannon!
You are the monument to our bank.
Really enjoy your videos, interesting how names changed and stations grew
A Guy down the pub told me that they filled the abandoned tunnels to King William Street with old station name plates.
All pretty straightforward really, I'm not quite sure what all the fuss is about.
That said, if it were down to me, I would rename the station, reverting each bit to its original name. It may well share a ticket hall, but each set of platforms would have its own name. Far less confusing to the novice traveller I think you'll find! 😊
It would perhaps cause minor pandemonium in the office of the tube map planners though haha
@@Damien_N they'll just give up and add an inset for Bank
This. Most station platforms only have numbers. Having them carry names instead / as well would be rather fun.
That; or rename it all to
*King William's Monumental Cannon Street Bank*
@@jimtaylor294 I was always a fan of Geoff Marshall’s spoonerism version “Manument Bonk”
Always informative and full of fun Jago, your videos are a real pleasure that we all eagerly look forward to watching.
Mr Hazzard, what can I say but simply the best. Love the material and the videos but you make this history so enjoyable. If I had this as a kid I would have been so much more interested in history! A very very big thank you!
Another eyes and ears going in five different directions at once video, but then, this is what to be expected for the underground.
There are safety issues at Monument station. Access to the Northern line platforms, which are closer to Monument, is via the previously busy District/City line platform. So Bank is the declared Northern line station and will have a Cannon Street access to take Monument out of the loop as much as is possible.
Thankyou for another extremely interesting and informative episode.
My favourite series on CZcams, even more so than ColinFurze building the underground tunnel from his secret bunker to his house (via the shed)
This video feels like it was some kind of therapy for you. There, there, Jago - let it all out.
I love Bank Station. As you enter the station through the building that straddles Cornhill &Queen Victoria Street, look up and you can see the mosaic tiled interior space leading upwards, that always makes me smile. If you stand across the road at Jewry and look up you can see the roof garden which I also like.
Multiple, unconnected stations with the same name, must be balanced with single stations with multiple names. For god sakes Man, isn't that obvious? Oh yes, Jago, now you're hitting form. 00:53 This all sounds like a Monumental stuff up.
You really went and tackled the impossible this time......
Living on the landmass close by, the one east of Britain, and with Corona, no money for traveling and all, your channel has been like a window to London for me during the past year. One of the places I was lucky enough to be spending at least a few days at, almost each year.
Thank you.
Not to mention the great content and one of the wittiest followings on the internet (judging by the comment section).
Jago I think I am at that point now where I know more about British rail history and current lines than I know about the order of the train stations here in Sydney Australia.
Keep the great information and videos coming
What a lot of confusion! Great video - as always.
Great video Jago. Nice bit of escapism and interest😀
Some call it
"Manument Bonk"
It is a part of the tube
which because I have never worked in the City
I studiously avoid if I can
I always enjoy your presentations. Carry on.
Brilliant as always Jago 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Here in Newcastle, the interlinking crossover maze-like station is called Monument, named after Grey's Monument, he of Earl Grey Tea fame. There are some banks nearby but that's irrelevant. Passages lead to Eldon Square which is not a square but a shopping complex. The real Eldon Square is a square but not a shopping complex nearby within spitting distance of the Metro Station we all know and love as Monument.
Does anyone remember the zig-zag ‘Escalator Link’ on the old tube maps before the DLR came along?
I do!
Truly a monumental video. Thank you sir.
In my time as a marker researcher, doing surveys both overt and covert, Bank/Monument was always the one I dreaded. It's hot as hell, takes ages to get around and during the refurb some years ago, the exits seemed to change as I looked at them. It does however have decent toilets.
Even the staff move between the two stations via the street because it's much quicker..
Who are these people, that hit the thumbs down option. Madness, utter madness. Yet another 1st class offering jago, fantastic stuff.
Glad to see the new entrance which is being built with the new Northern line platforms. I use to deliver here and nothing has changed in 6 months😄
Brilliant video sir.
Thank you so much!
Very informative and I laughed a lot as well!
the NYC subway may have it's share of unconnected same name stops, and smaller station complexes where the stations have entirely different names; but at least the larger multi line station complexes have a unified name.
I used the underground today and used bank as the Met/Circle/Distr is closed, its a hot station definitely. I did think to myself when I was reading the map why the two stations are connected on map although two different names, thank you for clearing it up.
I always bank on a monumental tale from the tube when Jago shows up!
The station seen at 5:05 is where a scene from the classic film "The Lavender Hill Mob" was filmed. It's where Alec Guinness avoids the police.
Bank missed the addition of the Elizabeth line running through it. Bank is missing something to make it even more hot and crowded.
Visited the bank area for the first time in 15 years a few weeks back - wasn’t thrilled having to exit via the central line platform - it was very warm by the time I finally got up to Lombard street
Was nice to revisit though 👍
It's funny, as someone from New York, multiple, unconnected stations of the same name is completely normal here. Major cross streets in Manhattan often have two or three subway stops on different lines; there are five 23rd Street stations on each trunk line! We even have two 36th Street and two 7th Avenue stops, each in completely different boroughs!
Well, you lost me after about half a minute!!! Reminded me of how foggy my mind became when I had to study Calculus.
Now imagine a lot of big improvements coming in Bank\Monument - entrances, lifts, escalators and wider and shorter corridors. On top of all there's a plan to completely integrate Cannon street into Bank\Monument complex. I mean complete underground interchange.
In addition to two Edgware Roads and Hammersmiths there are also two Paddingtons. You can walk between the two Paddingtons but there are two station buildings so it is considered two stations despite being connected underground
I've been noticing some of the signs at station entrances sometimes simply say 'station' as in Chesham Station, while others say 'Underground Station' as in Cannon Street Underground Station. At first I thought this was to differentiate between those stations that are above ground but at least one genuinely Underground station simply has station on it's sign
There's a main line station at Cannon Street. The 'Underground' in the name is probably to distinguish it from the main line station.
@@henrybest4057 Thanks, that makes sense
Just packed with information, thanks Jago. I do agree, Monument should be renamed to Bank (or City or whatever it is called this year)
I guess that now Bank has an entrance so close to Cannon Street it makes sense for Monument to stay named Monument, that way unfamiliar people close to Cannon Street who want the District know that the Bank station they're looking at isn't on the line they want.
Monument and Embankment sounds like they are near to each other with Bank right next to Bank and Embankment next to Charing Cross. No wonder it confuses lots of people, commuters and tourists that love using the Underground.
Certainly lots of stations, both underground and overground, in quite a small area for City of London workers to choose between, even if they are all a short distance apart. As a student in the 70s, I had lots of holiday temp jobs in the City, and as well as Bank/Monument, often used Cannon Street, Mansion House, Tower Hill, Liverpool Street, Moorgate and Barbican.
Many commuters arriving at London Bridge railway station still seem to walk over the bridge to the City, despite the Northern Line connection. I'd guess it's less of a hassle than using the packed rush-hour tube and gives them a chance to stretch their legs of a morning (and evening).
Great video again
A question. The London Underground is famous for its "mind the gap" warning announcements. It is my contention that final shot of a train arriving at what I believe is the eastbound Central Lines platform at Bank shows the widest gap in the whole Tube system by dint of the extreme curve of the platform. Are there any other contenders out there? Who's going to go round the underground network with a tape measure to satisfy my curiosity as to this matter of some importance, at least to me.
Apparently you are right, the widest gap on the Underground is Bank Central line eastbound platform, on the west end of it, at 375 mm.
@@obliviousotterI Thanks for finding that out. My life is now complete and I can die happy. That said, the shot is of the East end of the platform so I guess you have to journey up the other end to find this 375mm gap.
I got the information from here, they list other large gaps also
www.metadyne.co.uk/mind_the_gap.htm
I half expected a slide of Charles Yerkes to pop up with 'and I'd have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those damn kids!'
Great video jago, very interesting, I think it's had enough names lol😂👍👌
Good research on a confusing station. Monument was to be changed to Bank at some point while the existing Bank station it was suggested could be West Bank or W Bank. This was vetoed as W Bank it was feared would be shortened to Wank.
Calling a station West Bank could have unfortunate political connotations....
We can always Bank on Jago for an entertaining video!
King William Street station is currently being merged into the widening of the Northern line platforms. I would also hazard that the Cannon Street entrance is closer to Cannon Street than it is to other Bank entrances (Lombard).
I've been excited for this video. I've wanted to know what the deal with the station was and why you disliked it when you mentioned back in another video. I have to agree the arrangement is over complicated and infuriating.
When in London I take your sage advice and get off at the stop before . . .
Not to forget that there was also a station called "City Thameslink" - not so much nearby.
On a serous note: You showed a shot of a map! It was brief, and of one on a wall, but better than no map. I noticed you did the same in another recent video. Your viewers thank you.
If you want a real challenge: you should draw a diagram of all the underground pedestrian tunnels and platforms!
In New York,there is the 42nd Street rabbit warren,connecting the 8th Avenue,6th Avenue,7th Avenue,Lexington Avenue,and the Flushing line,plus the Grand Central shuttle,all tied together by a color coded,maze! It's a bit daunting to a first time user,but old hat for long time commuters! Does the Underground color code stations like Bank/Monument,and Baker Street,as examples???? Thank you for your time and effort 👍🙏😊🙌👏🙂!
Ah yes, a tale from the tube, just in time for bed…
Truly a masterpiece of visual and aural delights.
I think we should all accept they are essentially two entirely distinct stations now that are just joined by a really long hot walk underground.
Great stuff. Away from Bank/Monument, 0:09 I'd never noticed before that they used a really odd font outside the Bakerloo Line Edgware Road station, as the G looks more like C making it look like EDCWARE ROAD STATION!
Another excellent video Jago. I used Bank station to change lines and trains as part of my daily commute pre-retirement and the connecting tunnels were always a nightmare, hot, crowded and I was never sure if I was taking the most direct route as the signage wasn't much help. I recall that my mother, who worked in the City always referred to the Waterloo and City line as "the drain", have you heard that nickname? I remember the old Southern railway units on the Waterloo and City, much nicer than the ordinary tube stock and they had the distinctive electric motor smell too. Were they 3rd rail or 3rd and forth like the tube, I don't recall?
bancannomonument station please. another great video jago!
Well, I thought Bank/Monument was complicated, but hadn't realised it was that complicated! Funny to think of the short time in 1900 when it was called City / Cornhill / Bank / Monument. Never knew Cannon Street was so close - I wonder how many people have changed at Bank, carefully taken the so-called "escalator connection" to Monument and gone one stop on the District. I seem to remember that to change from the Central to the District you basically walked along the Northern Line platforms? Sounds like the best unified name would be "Bonkers".
As an Econ major, it depresses me that I thought Bank referred to the bank of the Thames as opposed to the Bank of England lololol