How the Soviet/Afghan War Changed Pakistan's History Ft. Salman Javed | EP194

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  • čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
  • Today, we shed light on the war that created Pakistan’s military deep state with our guest, Mr. Salman Javed, Director of the Pak-Afghan Youth Forum. In this episode, we discuss the historical issues of the Soviet-Afghan war and Pak-Afghan relations.
    We explore Russia's initial alliance with Afghanistan, the significance of the Durand Line, and the deterioration of Russian-Afghan relations. We also discuss the conflict between Islam and communism, the proxy war between Pakistan and Afghanistan, and the role of religion in this context. Discover how Zia-ul-Haq used the Afghan war to bolster Pakistan's military, the birth of the military deep state, and modern-day relations between Russia and Afghanistan.
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    00:00 Highlights
    01:56 Why Russia wanted an alliance with Afghanistan
    05:08 The Great Game: British vs. Russia
    07:40 The Durand Line
    13:58 Deterioration of Russia-Afghanistan Relations
    17:07 Islam vs. Communism
    25:00 Proxy War: Pakistan and Afghanistan
    34:20 Role of Religion
    36:27 Zia-ul-Haq’s Use of the Afghan War
    42:45 The Rise of Islamization in Pakistan
    44:56 Birth of the Military Deep State
    49:35 Maintaining Relations with China
    59:53 Modern-Day Russia-Afghanistan Relations
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Komentáře • 132

  • @thomashunter5645
    @thomashunter5645 Před 21 dnem +19

    Pakistan is lucky to have wise and honest military people. They have safely invested Pakistani money in Papa John's pizza franchise, real estate in Canada, London, Dubai, and an island near Australia. Long live the Pakistani Establishment.

    • @xijinping9024
      @xijinping9024 Před 21 dnem +3

      😂 the irony is pakistan is dealing with two sector.
      Eastern sector which is india and western sector which Afghanistan 😂

    • @abdalazizariff5154
      @abdalazizariff5154 Před 21 dnem +3

      EVERY COUNTRY HAS AN ARMY, PAKISTAN ARMY HAS A COUNTRY.

    • @Aman-jh7pz
      @Aman-jh7pz Před 20 dny

      😂😂😂😂🤣🤣

    • @SuryanarayanaJagarlapudi
      @SuryanarayanaJagarlapudi Před 20 dny +2

      Thus, Pakistan is rich, thanks to its Army.

    • @Wolfamg5
      @Wolfamg5 Před 11 dny

      ​@@SuryanarayanaJagarlapudigandu hindu

  • @shatnermohanty6678
    @shatnermohanty6678 Před 21 dnem +16

    After the Soviet Afghan war ended , pakistan decided to use Strategic Depth on it's western neighbour and Unconventional Warfare on it's Eastern neighbour .
    You Reap what you Sow

    • @zv8135
      @zv8135 Před 19 dny +1

      And your country is a pre genocidal state, wonder how that will effect your economic aims 🤔 😂
      you reap, what you sow

  • @quddusquddus136
    @quddusquddus136 Před 21 dnem +7

    Correction. The Afghan war didn't create Pakistan's deep state. Pakistan military state was present at the creation in 1947. The war fortified the military state. This is a Jihadi state within a state. The Jihadi state is a state of its own with its own economic sector. Military generals ensure that soldiers of Punjab are well-fed. They are paid by the American tax-payers via lenders from the I.M.F. They are not accountable to anyone except to the Americans. If push comes to shove, all the military generals defeated in all wars could be obliterated via drone strikes. Thanks to Artificial Intelligence. Hope lies with the A.I. Not in the Junkyard created for the degenerates now dwelling in Punjab.

    • @abdalazizariff5154
      @abdalazizariff5154 Před 21 dnem

      100 % CORRECT.IF YOU TAKE A LOOK OF A PICTURE OF THE FATHER OF THE NATION WITH AYUB KHAN-HE REALIZED DIRTY SCHEME FROM AUYB KHAN.

    • @TheGrimStoic
      @TheGrimStoic Před 20 dny

      AI drones? When USA didn't punish OBL perfidy, why would they neutralize assets now - a compromised asset is the best asset because you can do proper carrot and stick with him - USA foreign policy is run by a state deeper than what pak deep state can ever hope to be. China has the stick, but all the carrots are in USA and Canada, even Chinese carrots, if you get my drift.

  • @sanamir160
    @sanamir160 Před 21 dnem +49

    Afghanistan official father of Pakistan 😎💪😈

  • @harshasai8040
    @harshasai8040 Před 21 dnem +8

    58:16 Bhai trillions nahi billions ya millions hoga 😂😅 USA ka defence budget hi 700 billions dollars he aur aap pakistan ki trillion dollars me baat kar rahe ho

    • @missingdog-princess
      @missingdog-princess Před 21 dnem +3

      Exactly😂😂
      These clowns seriously.😂

    • @emperor615
      @emperor615 Před 21 dnem +3

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @Umerr
      @Umerr Před 21 dnem

      LMFAO what a clown.

    • @TheGrimStoic
      @TheGrimStoic Před 20 dny +2

      those are jannati dollars not US Dollars - Jannati Dollars are earned by being pious - Pak GDP in Jannati dollars is Hundred Trillion per day

    • @mrsaad2335
      @mrsaad2335 Před 15 dny

      Idr say hisab laga lo ye youtubers kitna sach kitna jhoot boltay hain views lenay k liye

  • @user-wg6ic9hf4i
    @user-wg6ic9hf4i Před 21 dnem +8

    Pakistani mind set..bhagat singh was tha but iqbal the... And they t asking why others hate then

    • @TheGrimStoic
      @TheGrimStoic Před 20 dny

      Bhai Aurangzeb ka naam lene ke bad rehmat-ul-alay kehte hain kai piecefuls - ap puri cheez samjho - itni zara si bat pe hairani hai apko to agey kya hoga

    • @sahilkatoch6272
      @sahilkatoch6272 Před 18 dny

      aur mahjabi sikh lun choste hai inn logo ka

  • @jibranbaloch7650
    @jibranbaloch7650 Před 20 dny +5

    Pakistanis live in a bubble history created by their own military establishment.
    This guest trying to say ME created during Afghan Soviet war which is completely wrong. It was developed by British Colony.

    • @GuzzarAwan
      @GuzzarAwan Před 20 dny

      The guy and the podcast both r paid and run by ME. What do u expect 😂

    • @Wolfamg5
      @Wolfamg5 Před 11 dny

      Lol Soviet union support India in 1971 and Afghanistan communist nationalist always want invaded KPK and Quetta

  • @saifuddin7187
    @saifuddin7187 Před 18 dny +1

    MashaAllah the guest reporter has a lot attentic information regarding this region

  • @shayanmahmud6832
    @shayanmahmud6832 Před 21 dnem +11

    Let us know if you enjoyed this content 🙏

    • @prathipgowda
      @prathipgowda Před 21 dnem

      Madarsa chaap content

    • @prathipgowda
      @prathipgowda Před 21 dnem +2

      2 trillion dollars😂😂😂

    • @Aman-jh7pz
      @Aman-jh7pz Před 20 dny

      ​@@prathipgowda 🤣😂🤣

    • @TheGrimStoic
      @TheGrimStoic Před 20 dny

      @@prathipgowda those are jannati dollars not US Dollars - Jannati Dollars are earned by being pious - Pak GDP in Jannati dollars is Hundred Trillion per day

    • @shinysteel101
      @shinysteel101 Před 20 dny

      In Urdu please.

  • @vedantsharma4709
    @vedantsharma4709 Před 21 dnem +4

    Talk about Unknown Gunmen

  • @harshvardhan3044
    @harshvardhan3044 Před 21 dnem +6

    China ki gdp 18 trillion dollar hai, us millitary budget 900 billion dollar hai, china 300 billion dollar Aur ye janab pakistan ki military budget 2 trillion dollar se badha rahe hain....waah re world affairs expert ..lol😁😁😁

    • @Aman-jh7pz
      @Aman-jh7pz Před 20 dny

      😂😂🤣🤣

    • @TheGrimStoic
      @TheGrimStoic Před 20 dny

      those are jannati dollars not US Dollars - Jannati Dollars are earned by being pious - Pak GDP in Jannati dollars is Hundred Trillion per day

    • @GuzzarAwan
      @GuzzarAwan Před 20 dny

      I think he meant to say Trillion PKR not dollars.

    • @Mianaly20
      @Mianaly20 Před 15 dny

      Slip of tongue he
      The budget he is quoting is right in rupees.

  • @iqranaseer1837
    @iqranaseer1837 Před 19 dny +2

    It was shocking for me to learn that they didn't accepted Pakistan...

    • @Mianaly20
      @Mianaly20 Před 15 dny

      Yes.
      It was Afghanistan who were doing dirty stuff in the start and pain in the ass so finally Pakistan decided to interfere in Afghanistan giving the same treatment to control their attacks and have influence in Afghanistan
      At first pak had no interest in war lord society bcz it was useless
      Pak was focused on indian front.
      Afghanistan pe check n balance rakhna pak ki majbori ban gya kyun ke yeh continues attacks aur problem create krte thy.

  • @nizamuddin667
    @nizamuddin667 Před 20 dny +1

    To correct you, the budget is not in trillion dollars it's in billion dollars. Wesy , Bhai you are doing amazing work. I watch your program like people watch Money heist with full of Zeist.

  • @ahmernaseer3359
    @ahmernaseer3359 Před 20 dny +3

    Great Analysis

  • @sahilkatoch6272
    @sahilkatoch6272 Před 18 dny +1

    BHAI MERE PAKISTAN NEVER GOT INDEPENDENCE RATHER IT WAS BRON ON 15TH AUGUST 1947...BUT LATER YOU GUYS CHANGED THE DATE TO 14TH AUGUST

  • @munibarakb28
    @munibarakb28 Před 19 dny +1

    I corrected my several historical facts through this podcast. A gem of a podcast. And it's too revealing that Faqir of happi that corporated insurgencies in Pakistan have a road after his name..

  • @mjiqbal810
    @mjiqbal810 Před 21 dnem +3

    Except the budget numbers at the end, very informative discussion. Salman Javed looks well prepared and well read. Keep it up and spread the knowledge as knowledge/information is the power. There should not be a hate between Afghanistan and Pakistan, but people should know the past to understand present.

    • @TheGrimStoic
      @TheGrimStoic Před 20 dny

      Allah apki ghalatfehmi barqrar rakhey

  • @SuryanarayanaJagarlapudi
    @SuryanarayanaJagarlapudi Před 20 dny +1

    These two made lt clear that things can never be normal between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

  • @idreeskhan2360
    @idreeskhan2360 Před 16 dny +1

    One thing more pl...if killer of liaqat Ali Khan was an afghan then question arises as to why his family was allowed to stay in abbottabad sir! Pl confirm your views before sitting before camera. Regards. Asar ahmadzay

  • @AHOXA_
    @AHOXA_ Před 18 dny +1

    This is an excellent program to counter vicious and venomous Indian propaganda. We need more of such programs.

    • @AbhayPeshin
      @AbhayPeshin Před 15 dny

      Please continue these lies, without lies Pakistan dies.

  • @qintarahmad6062
    @qintarahmad6062 Před 21 dnem +3

    Trillion dollars????

    • @prathipgowda
      @prathipgowda Před 21 dnem

      Yeh sab madarsa chaap hai 😂😂😂

    • @TheGrimStoic
      @TheGrimStoic Před 20 dny +2

      those are jannati dollars not US Dollars - Jannati Dollars are earned by being pious - Pak GDP in Jannati dollars is Hundred Trillion per day

  • @MrVivekmane
    @MrVivekmane Před 10 dny

    Wow..what an insightful & authentic conversation it was...👏👏
    Thoroughly enjoyed. Many Thanks for this episode.🙏🙏

  • @getevennow
    @getevennow Před dnem

    You can win a war. But still loose the peace. And vice a versa

  • @zahurmalik9447
    @zahurmalik9447 Před 15 dny

    Don't miss read the Chinese. They have the potential to surprise the world and that has been established through their actions in the recent past.

  • @tahirattaique6569
    @tahirattaique6569 Před 18 dny +1

    This guest does not know NAP and don't mention wali Khan. Gaps in his talk. Very selective. Misses facts.

  • @khalidsardar1098
    @khalidsardar1098 Před 20 dny

    بہت اچھا معلوماتی پوڈ کاسٹ ویل ڈن❤

  • @n2201
    @n2201 Před 21 dnem +1

    No blame to Ayub and the military at that time?

  • @sayabkhalid6378
    @sayabkhalid6378 Před 21 dnem

    Hi dear shayan want to talk with from kotli ajk

  • @silentlatif
    @silentlatif Před 16 dny

    A good podcast except for it must be summed up within 45 minutes, ideally.

  • @VickyNaveen92
    @VickyNaveen92 Před 18 dny +1

    58:05 😝🤑2 trillion dollar paistan army ka defence budget 😋😋pakistan ki gdp ka bhi 8 guna ho gya tumhein billion or trillion m pta nhi to bhikri to bnoghe hi

  • @nowie4007
    @nowie4007 Před 18 dny

    Good analysis ❤❤❤

  • @TheDoc4kids
    @TheDoc4kids Před 16 dny

    An erudite and cogent exposition, indeed !

  • @AmitrossyNegu
    @AmitrossyNegu Před 19 dny

    British India nay nahi azim momin shaib Sikh Empire nay leya tha

  • @idreeskhan2360
    @idreeskhan2360 Před 16 dny

    Nice talk. Debacle in religion realm has always been a phenomenon of oscillation. Remember I m saying religion, not Deen. It has been fuelled by power factor, engineered through Concept of Hegemony . Early rift between caliphates after conquest of Mecca sowed the seed of discontent which later reshaped in forms of Umayyads and Abbassids that gave rise to academic understanding of Islam, resulting in Tafaseer and traditionalist Muslim hood emerged out of this chaotic scholastics. All this journey did affect other countries and afghan pakhtuns were not an exception. The speaker to my comprehension of the embraglio has not attached any relevance of this issue to religion and its political role. KSA , being a proxy actor for US has in connivance with gulf shores states did try to transport their version of otherwise pro human and peace loving Deen of Islam which gave impetus to sectarianism and anarchy reigned supreme. The discussion seems revolving around the same stereotype approach as coined by Punjab based intelligentsia that left over the pertinent subject of sovereignty. Then the traditional mindset promoter I mean Mullaism , rise of madrassah culture , role of proxies, dollars game nurtured by Ji and Jui with modern version in shape of Imran Khan etc are missing. Governance model of Pakistan too need a turbulent Afghanistan as pak economy is mainly run by small provinces resources of KP and Baluchistan. Whatever, new generation is now convinced that wise sermons by legendary peace paragon Bacha Khan baba and statesman wali Khan were not mere flowery of words rather fact is that afghans pakhtuns are yet to be accommodated and unless Punjab based intelligentsia changes its outlook vis a vis geographical realities , situation will remain to surprise and shock all and sundry. Role of traditionalist mullas also will hv to confirm itself to Holy Quran Majeed and not Umayyads -Abvassids inspired religious doctrines. Regards. Asar ahmadzay

  • @danydany3974
    @danydany3974 Před 18 dny

    Hi, I don't quite agree with you that Pakistan ko pata nahi tha.They knew what was coming may be at very last minute informed by the American.They wouldn't have taken risk to be shot down.
    Laden Kha hai ye to core commander ko bhi pata nahi ho ga.
    So yes, American informed this at the very last moment.Had they not had a good chance of getting shot.

  • @asadahmed2195
    @asadahmed2195 Před 13 dny

    banna qutub= ikhwaan ul muslimoon

  • @dromprakashmodi2901
    @dromprakashmodi2901 Před 21 dnem

    please go through the Peshawar conspiracy case & khilafat movement in those years almost at the time of lenin's death. WIKIPEDIA
    mujaffar Ahmad & shoukat Usmani

  • @tilakmahto8179
    @tilakmahto8179 Před 21 dnem

    Excellent explanation by Prof Saab. Never heard him so enthusiastically

  • @tariqumer4699
    @tariqumer4699 Před 20 dny

    Sorry shayan, your guest talks haphazard, shifts his talk from North Pole to south pole,

  • @Salman-pw4hl
    @Salman-pw4hl Před 21 dnem

    😮😮

  • @Wolfamg5
    @Wolfamg5 Před 11 dny

    Lol Pakistan entered in Soviet Afghan war are legitimate because Soviet union help India in 1971 with provide support Diplomatic and military also and Afghani nationalist always want invaded KPK and Quetta

  • @missingdog-princess
    @missingdog-princess Před 21 dnem +1

    58:40 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @emperor615
      @emperor615 Před 21 dnem +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @prathipgowda
      @prathipgowda Před 21 dnem

      Aur 1 billion ke liye imf ke saamne Lett jaate hai 😂😂😂

    • @prathipgowda
      @prathipgowda Před 21 dnem

      Host be madarsa chaap hai kuch study karke nahi aata hai 😂😂😂

    • @TheGrimStoic
      @TheGrimStoic Před 20 dny

      those are jannati dollars not US Dollars - Jannati Dollars are earned by being pious - Pak GDP in Jannati dollars is Hundred Trillion per day

  • @shinysteel101
    @shinysteel101 Před 20 dny

    Why dont you speak in Urdu? The national language!

  • @MazharAzad
    @MazharAzad Před 13 dny +1

    Mr Salman is highly biased when it comes to Afghanistan (Anti Afghan and Anti Afghanistan) and has twisted every fact according to his wishes and his predetermined narrative. Such a person is a bad analyst when it comes to such a sensitive and serious issue. If you want to talk about Afghanistan, then one must find some neutral person who doesn’t twist facts according to his wishes but can portray facts correctly.

    • @Wolfamg5
      @Wolfamg5 Před 11 dny

      LoL Afghani nationalism always want invaded KPK and Quetta

  • @aghawaseem3793
    @aghawaseem3793 Před 16 dny

    czcams.com/video/sqM0dUAQggQ/video.html

  • @avtaralex
    @avtaralex Před 10 dny

    Ek hi podcast me ye gadha bol raha hai, Indian newspaper ne 2000 me Durand line ko kya fir bad me bol raha hai afganistan president Bhutto k time me Durand line ko official border man ne offer kia..... 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @saadpaswal
    @saadpaswal Před 3 dny

    Anchor is very weak and unprepared about the topic and asking childish questions in face of legend slman

  • @comedynight2409
    @comedynight2409 Před 19 dny

    Pakistan satelite state China

    • @nowie4007
      @nowie4007 Před 18 dny

      Pakistan China se phle wajood me Aya hai Bewakoof

    • @Wolfamg5
      @Wolfamg5 Před 11 dny

      Gandu hindu

  • @Kasamejo
    @Kasamejo Před 18 dny

    Bullshit

  • @jibranbaloch7650
    @jibranbaloch7650 Před 20 dny

    Lies lies