I really enjoyed this series, Mike. As I mentioned in a comment some time ago, I wanted to install a mousetrap on my '72 FLH because, these old hands have been around the block a few times, and the idea of one-finger clutch is something I thought would be denied me because my bike was too new. Thanks to the suppliers you recommended, I've been slowly collecting the parts and now, I've seen a bike with the electric-start primary and newer style oil tank & battery box sitting on your stand with a mousetrap installed, so I know I can make it happen on mine. I was also having trouble finding a rear exhaust header that would fit around my kick starter, but those fellas with the mousetrap parts, they had that too. I picked-up a copy of the service manual you''re using as well. It's a shame all the manuals couldn't be as well put together as that one is. Thanks again for producing these videos. They're quite helpful, especially the little extras you do to make things better.
That's a good point about the personality or writing style of the manual writer coming through in a manual. Some people are just natural-born explainers.... Like a certain Mike I heard about on CZcams :)
I buy a service manual for all my old motorcycles even my 2017 ultra classic. I did buy manuals for my old cars from the manufacture also. Thanks Mike. I don’t get tired of hearing it.
In addition to a factory service manual, get a factory parts catalog. I was skeptical about their value until I bought one. I can attest that I would not be without one now. They are very informative and very handy when you need parts. Most after market vendors have parts number cross reference charts. Additionally, it is often valuable to know the proper name for the part rather than the slang names.
I've only done this once for a friend of mine and I was surprised I had no idea what I was doing but I got to work and work good.. that was I guess one time I was lucky..
As one who has benefited from your earlier Mousetrap vid, I wish you had explained on this one how you set up the clutch lever and rod "1/4 inch from the chainguard" as the manual suggests for 65-67, unlike the simpler setup on the older ones.
I found that really didn't make a lot of sense. If you stand on your head and look past everything under the oil tank, you'll will probably come to the same conclusion I did. If you adjust the arm back all the way, it will not be able to go all the way to the starter motor. So just adjust that arm all the way back except for a little play in it before it starts to move forward.
@@pacificmike9501 *LOL* that's more or less what I did. Flashlight and contortionist move to even see the lever, so I put it way back, got the rod hooked up, then teased the lever forward til it all coordinated. Broke all the "rules" in the process, but it works more or less like yours. Great channel, Mike, I love your vids and learn something from every one!
Hi Mike, Thanks for all the content. Love your videos, really helpful. Can I ask you a questions please. I ride a 1981 FXWG completely stock and very clean bike. But have been offered a trade on a similarly immaculate 1956 Panhead. I wonder if there would be a world of difference in the amount of care and maintenance the Pan would require over my Shovel?
No, but it is different. You will learn to tune well, so you can start it easily. 56 is a good Panhead. It has an 0-ring intake manifold that mounts better than a late shovel. It has Timken bearing lower end, which is just like your shovel. They're both loveable critters. They both have cheapo, poor hydraulic lifters that could be changed for better stuff. We could go on. They're just different. I would definitely put a belt primary hidden in the panhead tins. I would definitely install a 12volt electrical system in the Panhead. The Panhead is 25 years older.
Surely there are younger generation of people that are getting into the older bikes that do not understand why they call it a mousetrap Mr @MicahBell_1860 know-it-all.
If you read the comments between Mike & I you would see that I understood that when I first heard the term at 15 years of age @markanthony6092 Young enough for you?
Hello viewers and commenters , hopefully subscribers. Yes I was getting an explanation from pacific Mike for some of the viewers that might not understand why it is nicknamed that. Harley Davidson parts have all kinds of nicknames and I think it would be nice to know why they are called that by an original old school biker and mechanic like my best friend pacific Mike. Thank you for understanding and I hope to hear from you again....OH and Thank you very much for watching the show 👍🙂
Hmm, a 'Harley Varmint' eh? - heavily sprung 'Mouse-trap' clutch servo, whole bike sprayed in a 'can't-see-me-suit' of non-gloss Dormouse Grey, & yet sporting a mechanical siren of operatic proportions. What on Earth were they trying to sneak up on!?! Windy day here in Sherwood . . . I blame my diet : )
As the story goes, it was purchased from a Harley dealership by the Marine Corps and used as a Military Police unit. It is O.D. Green. My interest was mainly to install a proper clutch in it that functions smoothly and is back to stock. Mission accomplished.
… I used to work for A Action Plumbing in Lawndale my good friend Whitey showed me his beautiful golden 65 Pan Dresser last year made sits at his garage…
I lived in Hermosa many moons ago. I do remember Lawndale well. Southbay was awesome. I worked at Dick's Cycle in Long Beach. A bunch of other places too. It was back in the dark ages.
@@pacificmike9501 I was born in Hermosa Beach remember that old hospital it got torn down… Dick Allen had a shop on Artesia Blvd I’ll never forget them Cobra Trike and Loco Motion lol
@@pacificmike9501 I was mowing the lawn and witnessed this Triumph Chopper with Zig Zag logo However this biker went 90+ mph he crashed into Corvair Van that cut him off on left turn it was very bloody scene on Aviation Blvd I remember Dick Allen helped push his chopper to my neighbor’s yard. This is something I would never forget.
Yep, we could sit in Hennesey's and go over it all. Okay, I can tell, you prefer the Poopdeck. Most of those people lived real hard and didn't last real long. Canned Heat would come down and hang out at the pier. This could go on for a while...Wino Bill designed the gooseneck frame...Phase III belt drives, Phil Ross, SuperMax
@@pacificmike9501 Someday I plan to travel to San Diego my friend owns 62 pan you probably know him… We can hang out at the rock store I hope my bike could make it to Vancouver where my son lives
I have always wondered why the 58 model year wasn't included in the 59-69 factory manual? I have the 48-57 and the 59-69 but no 58 manual. Do you know Mike? My guess would be it is a stand alone manual. Don't know if you are a father but if you are happy Father's day. I have 5 adult children and 5 grandchildren, with 2 great grandchildren. Later my friend.
Happy Father's Day to you! I have a Godson and his kids are my Great Godsons. I have a wonderful Stepdaughter. How I got so fortunate to have such beautiful and kind people for family is beyond me. I love being introduced as "The Godfather." I have no idea why there is no 58 book. I remember looking at those new things with shocks attached to the frame and swingarm. My dad just stood there and drooled. 11 years later, I built a 58 Sportster.
I chopper wired my 95 sportster put points in it sparkplug has fire but won't start do u use the mark or the advance timing mark to set static timing and which lobe small one ore big one it's electric
Mike is it a dum idea to rid my bike from Oklahoma to long Beach cal wear I was born to tack cear of a little infraction jail so I can go to work driving a big truck yours senserley Kenneth William cole 🎉
Thanks Mike. It was great to visit.
Yes it was! I love you both.
Such a nice setup. I love the sound of that release plate slamming into the clutch plates to lock it up.
Glad you like it!
Thank you "Profeser" I love your simple but "clear" instructions.....We appreciate you very much....God bless you family and friends....
Thank You. We all need each other.
I really enjoyed this series, Mike. As I mentioned in a comment some time ago, I wanted to install a mousetrap on my '72 FLH because, these old hands have been around the block a few times, and the idea of one-finger clutch is something I thought would be denied me because my bike was too new. Thanks to the suppliers you recommended, I've been slowly collecting the parts and now, I've seen a bike with the electric-start primary and newer style oil tank & battery box sitting on your stand with a mousetrap installed, so I know I can make it happen on mine. I was also having trouble finding a rear exhaust header that would fit around my kick starter, but those fellas with the mousetrap parts, they had that too. I picked-up a copy of the service manual you''re using as well. It's a shame all the manuals couldn't be as well put together as that one is. Thanks again for producing these videos. They're quite helpful, especially the little extras you do to make things better.
Wow! And you, make it all worth doing.
@@Mike--WA7QZR and there it is.
That's a good point about the personality or writing style of the manual writer coming through in a manual. Some people are just natural-born explainers.... Like a certain Mike I heard about on CZcams :)
Thank You. We all like to be understood. Sometimes it takes quite an effort.
I buy a service manual for all my old motorcycles even my 2017 ultra classic. I did buy manuals for my old cars from the manufacture also. Thanks Mike. I don’t get tired of hearing it.
Thank You. I buy them on everything I own. They certainly make life better.
@@pacificmike9501 thanks brother
I love that "T" truck.
Used to love mousetrap on my pan. Your right when adjusted properly they are the slicked set up.
Yes indeed.
Thanks Mike I have Mouse trap on my 48 FL with your videos.
Cool.
In addition to a factory service manual, get a factory parts catalog. I was skeptical about their value until I bought one. I can attest that I would not be without one now. They are very informative and very handy when you need parts. Most after market vendors have parts number cross reference charts. Additionally, it is often valuable to know the proper name for the part rather than the slang names.
Thank You. Well said.
Thanks guys always a pleasure, keep em coming.👌🏾
Thanks! Will do!
👋🙂
I've only done this once for a friend of mine and I was surprised I had no idea what I was doing but I got to work and work good.. that was I guess one time I was lucky..
Nah, you're just a natural.
@@pacificmike9501 😁
Sat still for twenty years
Am I missing something?
As one who has benefited from your earlier Mousetrap vid, I wish you had explained on this one how you set up the clutch lever and rod "1/4 inch from the chainguard" as the manual suggests for 65-67, unlike the simpler setup on the older ones.
I found that really didn't make a lot of sense. If you stand on your head and look past everything under the oil tank, you'll will probably come to the same conclusion I did. If you adjust the arm back all the way, it will not be able to go all the way to the starter motor. So just adjust that arm all the way back except for a little play in it before it starts to move forward.
@@pacificmike9501 *LOL* that's more or less what I did. Flashlight and contortionist move to even see the lever, so I put it way back, got the rod hooked up, then teased the lever forward til it all coordinated. Broke all the "rules" in the process, but it works more or less like yours. Great channel, Mike, I love your vids and learn something from every one!
I find that once I get it right, I do it again and again and I develop a feel for it all over again. And, it just gets better.
Hello Mike and Mike Happy Father’s Day to you all
Thank You and Happy Father's Day to you.
👋🙂
A mike the 91 soft tale custom is on dead nut top tune and crome polished to a luster
I don't underdtand.
Thank you
You're welcome
👍🙂
Hi Mike, Thanks for all the content. Love your videos, really helpful. Can I ask you a questions please. I ride a 1981 FXWG completely stock and very clean bike. But have been offered a trade on a similarly immaculate 1956 Panhead. I wonder if there would be a world of difference in the amount of care and maintenance the Pan would require over my Shovel?
No, but it is different. You will learn to tune well, so you can start it easily. 56 is a good Panhead. It has an 0-ring intake manifold that mounts better than a late shovel. It has Timken bearing lower end, which is just like your shovel. They're both loveable critters. They both have cheapo, poor hydraulic lifters that could be changed for better stuff. We could go on. They're just different. I would definitely put a belt primary hidden in the panhead tins. I would definitely install a 12volt electrical system in the Panhead. The Panhead is 25 years older.
Surely the term mouse trap is self explanatory Cameraman Mike
He just wanted to hear it and thought other people might too.
First time I heard that expression when I was 15 @pacificmike9501 I figured I wouldn't like to get my fingers caught in it. Happy trails, Cowpoke
Surely there are younger generation of people that are getting into the older bikes that do not understand why they call it a mousetrap Mr @MicahBell_1860 know-it-all.
If you read the comments between Mike & I you would see that I understood that when I first heard the term at 15 years of age @markanthony6092 Young enough for you?
Hello viewers and commenters , hopefully subscribers. Yes I was getting an explanation from pacific Mike for some of the viewers that might not understand why it is nicknamed that. Harley Davidson parts have all kinds of nicknames and I think it would be nice to know why they are called that by an original old school biker and mechanic like my best friend pacific Mike. Thank you for understanding and I hope to hear from you again....OH and Thank you very much for watching the show 👍🙂
Are you the guy who came and bought my 45 tanks in Darien?
Nope.
Make sure you adjust that primary chain slack correctly!
Okay.
A hears a pick of the 91 soft tale custom that is on top tune
Hmm, a 'Harley Varmint' eh? - heavily sprung 'Mouse-trap' clutch servo, whole bike sprayed in a 'can't-see-me-suit' of non-gloss Dormouse Grey, & yet sporting a mechanical siren of operatic proportions.
What on Earth were they trying to sneak up on!?! Windy day here in Sherwood . . . I blame my diet : )
As the story goes, it was purchased from a Harley dealership by the Marine Corps and used as a Military Police unit. It is O.D. Green. My interest was mainly to install a proper clutch in it that functions smoothly and is back to stock. Mission accomplished.
❤❤❤❤
… I used to work for A Action Plumbing in Lawndale my good friend Whitey showed me his beautiful golden 65 Pan Dresser last year made sits at his garage…
I lived in Hermosa many moons ago. I do remember Lawndale well. Southbay was awesome. I worked at Dick's Cycle in Long Beach. A bunch of other places too. It was back in the dark ages.
@@pacificmike9501 I was born in Hermosa Beach remember that old hospital it got torn down… Dick Allen had a shop on Artesia Blvd
I’ll never forget them Cobra Trike and Loco Motion lol
@@pacificmike9501 I was mowing the lawn and witnessed this Triumph Chopper with Zig Zag logo However this biker went 90+ mph he crashed into Corvair Van that cut him off on left turn it was very bloody scene on Aviation Blvd I remember Dick Allen helped push his chopper to my neighbor’s yard. This is something I would never forget.
Yep, we could sit in Hennesey's and go over it all. Okay, I can tell, you prefer the Poopdeck. Most of those people lived real hard and didn't last real long. Canned Heat would come down and hang out at the pier. This could go on for a while...Wino Bill designed the gooseneck frame...Phase III belt drives, Phil Ross, SuperMax
@@pacificmike9501 Someday I plan to travel to San Diego my friend owns 62 pan you probably know him… We can hang out at the rock store I hope my bike could make it to Vancouver where my son lives
Merci 👌👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank You.
😊
Nice!🤙
Thank You.
Mike -- did you ever have or work at a shop in San Luis Obispo , I enjoy your videos , I am building a 1948 Pan
Yes, I went out of business in 2010. 48 Panhead is a thing of beauty.
In the past I attended numerous Rip’s BAD ride. Are they ever going to have the RIP’s BAD ride again?
I have no idea.
❤️ u
Thank You. Lets keep it simple.
I have always wondered why the 58 model year wasn't included in the 59-69 factory manual? I have the 48-57 and the 59-69 but no 58 manual. Do you know Mike? My guess would be it is a stand alone manual. Don't know if you are a father but if you are happy Father's day. I have 5 adult children and 5 grandchildren, with 2 great grandchildren. Later my friend.
Happy Father's Day to you! I have a Godson and his kids are my Great Godsons. I have a wonderful Stepdaughter. How I got so fortunate to have such beautiful and kind people for family is beyond me. I love being introduced as "The Godfather." I have no idea why there is no 58 book. I remember looking at those new things with shocks attached to the frame and swingarm. My dad just stood there and drooled. 11 years later, I built a 58 Sportster.
Hey Mike, I have a 79 shovel with rotary top trans, could a mousetrap be used on this application? Thanks 🤘
You'll probably need to modify a clutch arm and use a clutch with coil springs. But, you'll have to see as you go.
@pacificmike9501 Thanks Mike! Appreciate all you do!
Is it possible to put the old mouse trap clutch on a 1997 heritage Springer?
That Evo has a diaphragm spring clutch. The mousetrap and the diaphragm spring would be very difficult to time together and synchronise.
@@pacificmike9501 thank you
Is it just me or you guys gives a like before even watch his videos?😅
Thank You.
👍🙂💯❗
I chopper wired my 95 sportster put points in it sparkplug has fire but won't start do u use the mark or the advance timing mark to set static timing and which lobe small one ore big one it's electric
Small lobe is #1 (front cyl.) Set timing with ign. cam held in advance position with advance timing mark on flywheel.
@@pacificmike9501 ty hope this helps me
@@pacificmike9501 do I need to take ignition cam cover to make sure it's in the right spot for the advance timing and piston at tdc
Yes. I believe you also need a service manual.
RTFM and LTPM 🙂
I'm uneducated. I don't know what you mean.
🤔
Wtf 67 i was 3❤️ u
I was older.
Mike is it a dum idea to rid my bike from Oklahoma to long Beach cal wear I was born to tack cear of a little infraction jail so I can go to work driving a big truck yours senserley Kenneth William cole 🎉
Sounds like a legal issue, not something for me. I'd hate to give you bad advice.
Rock On