King of the travellers Bartley Gorman
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- čas přidán 30. 11. 2011
- ok so i said I would upload this video even though i know there will be confusion and disputes about it :) Paddy ward is the king now- undisputed in my eyes. before him there was Joe Joyce and this man here Baretly Gorman. Joe Joyce is hated by many people on youtube but do not know him and like Bartley, there isnt any proper fights of them in their prime on youtube so do not judge them just by the videos. Both of these men believed they were king but it is being thought more and more that Bartley was pretty much the best BKB fighter ever. So take it as what you want, i am not saying who was and who wasnt king but i will say one thing, Paddy Doherty was never king of the travellers and he never claimed to be. Hes just known but is still a good fighter and like Bartley, respected by most
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Batman’s “Bane” sent me here. Never heard of this gent or his story, but what a wonderful interview. Thanks for posting this. Even how he moves at this age, there’s no doubts the guy could throw down twice as much in his younger days. Keep in mind that’s bare knuckle on the bag and it’s that brutal in power and technique. A fighter is a fighter, no matter the age
Dude the dents he's putting in that bag with no protection is some of the most wince-inducing shit I've ever seen. What a fucking warrior.
Me too, I don't think he sounds anything like Bane though.
Doesnt sound anything like Bane though, he sounds like a normal northern British dude. But still an interesting man with an interesting life.
I'm Lee's best mate since Kids (Batman’s “Bane”)
Lee was Batman's Bairn.
It means Kid in Scottish.
And WOW.
We grew up under Bartley and it was magical.
I’ve watched this a hundred times. There’s magic in the way this man explains his life. What a voice too. Real soul. God bless ya Bartley.
he has a lovely singing voice
It’s the complete confidence and love he has for his family name, heritage and family.
Hundred per cent
Mate
If you like this then I can thoroughly recommend reading his book. KING OF THE GYPSIES by Bartley Gorman. Great read. I've been through it twice now.
His voice is incredible...
Let's not forget that man was in his late 50's when he was on that bag and still a machine, imagine how fast and powerful he would have been in his prime 25 years earlier.
Some man this guy was ... Imagine him in his prime must of been scary af
51
He says himself in the video he was 51
@@andysmith8890 didn't catch that m8, cheers.
Hitting that bag bare knuckles... what a 'ard bugger was Bartley.
Sends shivers through my spine when I here Bartley singing in this video. rest in peace
What's the song called?
Bartley Gorman was a bit of a local legend around Derbyshire and Staffordshire. Never lost a bout in his life but was a quiet gentleman. Shane Meadows as always did the film justice.
He’d be so proud of Tyson.
Defo, he is related to Tyson. this is Nathan Norman’s grandad, who is tyson fury’s cousin
He talks all about the families who belonged to the same 'breed' as himself, and the Furies are one of those families. Tyson Fury's family were renowned bare-knuckle fighters, according to Mr Gorman's book.
Ooo yes
💪💖
Mike Tyson?
Why?
I used to watch this over and over a few years back. Because of it I remember buying Bartley Gorman's book. Though as a fighter he was as hard as iron, what I grew to love about the man was the gentle humility that seemed to seep and shine through the words and the story of his life. To me he appeared to be so much more than a fighter. He appeared to be the REAL deal. R.I.P. With all respect. Xxx
Will check his book out, thanks!
I respect this man. He knows himself and he doesn't get lost in all that comes with being a fighter of renown. A real gentleman, a real warrior like the days of old.
true story 😎
Which is why because of all the pain you suffer it teaches you to survive there is a attack on the wisdom you speak we take care of the ones we love some times by force if we have to we know the rules and we have to stay strong to teach it to the next generation before it's to late it's why you are still here and why i am to pray for them brother
a fascinating insight, made by Shane Meadows who also directed Dead Man's Shoes, This Is England and the Stone Roses comeback film. Thanks for uploading, this is far more interesting than the shoddy call-out gypsy fight videos that are all over CZcams nowadays. Mr.Gorman speaks wisely as an honourable Gentleman and may I compliment his beautiful Daughter for her glorious hair.
She is a fine looking woman
how very polite lol lol.. dead man's shoes and this is England are excellent by the way
This is England. Shane Meadows also.
Shane Meadows father was a bare knuckle boxer, thus the connection to this amazing gentle man. His book is well, well worth a read ✌🏼
@@UwesGrandad Arty & Shane Meadows were family friends , Shane grew up around Bartley and his family
Hard as coffin nails this man, a true gentleman. Read his book its amazing.
The book was brill
King of the Gypsies = great book. Hopefully will follow with a great feature film.
One of my absolute favorite autobiographies 👌🏼 great read
I was lucky enough to get it a few months ago from amazon, best bargain ever, I paid just a few quid for it!
Incredible book, so much history and great recollections from a very sharp mind.
@@Svvithred most of the book was made up . I’ve met him loads of times in stone and stoke on Trent .
Not only a hard man and legendry bare knuckle fighter, a very intelligent man as well. Self taught and well spoken. Unbelievable voice. RIP.
''a gypsy man won't lie on his back knocked out for a million pounds'' Fury vs Wilder round 12.
Fuck off ya auld junkies junkies bastards ye
I don't know why people identify themselves as gypsies when Gypsies come from India and he has a German surname
@@niteblaster1 we gypsys came from india, many years ago
DAZN Europe Fkin hell DAZN is just run by people who watch gypsy videos on CZcams like me 😂👍
Joe Joyce I doubt the real Joe Joyce would make such a comment, especially about a Fury man who didn’t lie on his back, he took the 2 hardest punches in boxing history and got up and won the round. Show me another man who could do the same, you cannot.
And if this is the real Joe Joyce, a true fighting man himself, you know how difficult getting up from shots like that would be.
Hence why I doubt it’s big Joe.
Screw his boxing career! Where was the Bartley Gorman album. I can’t get enough of his voice.
Very nice voice, I agree
I sing the Raggle taggle Gypsy but I can't hold a candle to the Gypsy King.
what song is he singing?
@@alansmith236 raggle taggle gypsy
Tom Hardy was influenced by him for Bane
Sounds corny but they absolutely do not make men like this anymore a true legend he is. RIP moosh.
Not corny at all it's the truth haha
They do , come to afghanistan/pakistan where our men defeated entire empires time and time agaib
True. A different time. Maybe in Dagistan they still do.
marty feldmans brother
These fuckers would take the sugar out ur tea
No words can describe the respect I have and had for this true warrior of a man. Rest in peace Bart. All my love forever and eternity . Tom ❤️
many tthanks for the inspiration Mr. Gorman you remind me of my grandfather a strong man of spirit and the sword - I currently have a fight against cancer and your display of strength, will, dignity and humility will aid me on my journey however that may end - best of the morning to you Sir.
goodluck chap im fighting addiction not good
Good luck with ya fight Mark.
health and happiness mark I hope you kicked its arse goodluck
Hope all was ok Mark
have you won the fight?
Something magic 🎩 in this upload, the tone, the singing. No stupid questions just a grandfather tough as they come, invincible, STILL articulate with all his faculties......after the punishment, hes a warhorse. Beautiful vid. RIP big man x
It a delight to know I am not the only one who came here to hear Bane's voice.
I find his speaking voice a pleasure to listen to,and his lilting melancholic singing is very moving.
Could listen to this great man all day, his book is brilliant and i must of read it a dozen times over the years. RIP Bartley
he didn't sing long enough 😰
thats some heavy hands on the bag
Read his biography years ago. Great book! Didn’t realize he could sing. Thank you for posting this awesome video!
It seems that Gypsies, like Samoans, can all sing. In their blood.
There's definitely something to that. One of my closest friends was philippineo and hawaiian. I went to their family reunion once, most. musically talented bunch I have ever been around!
The crackle of the open fire, the sip of hot tea and the inky black night
The stove warming the caravan the wind whispers and the silence
The sigh and the true feeling of peace, and tommorow move on.
RIP Champ.
A fascinating man...eloquent and philosophical with a quiet yet authoritative voice, and a lovely singing voice I’d like to say...and despite his advancing years you can see his mastery of the sweet science shine through
Respect to you from a son of England. We need more of you.
Love, to your family x
That explains Tysons singing voice. Looks like he had KRONK also, a lot of power in those shots. Great vid.
Gypsies are always good signers and dancers
This is probably the most honorable, respectable man ever. I love the fact he's so soft spoken and articulate. RIP sir.
A true Gent from the days of respect and honour. "LEGEND"...
So glad this rare footage was taken.. Shame there wasn't more footage of the man.. A true traveller man that would give all others a good name.
Imagine him being your grandfather. Bouncing you on your lap, feeding you, loving and holding you tight your whole life while feeling some incredible amount of safety and protection. To then find out the reason you have felt so blessed throughout your whole youth was because Papa was the most violent man in the world willing to take a bare knuckle risk . I would never stop wearing that smile after that recollection. I will always be a fan of this family and it's courage.
LOL. Travellers don't do that soft shit. if the child cried he would give it a backhand
@@James-th7wb and how in the hell would your simple ass knows what a traveler's life is like when you've never left your grandparent's basement at 40 years old?
@@asking4mebartender630 that's 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@asking4mebartender630 spot on lad, this @james fella wouldn't know nothing about a gypsies life
It made me smile reading that because my pap/grandfather was a green beret marine that always made me feel safe in my childhood and he told us so many amazing stories. apparently once he stopped a dog from trying to attack me by giving it one huge kick as it ran towards me 🤣 he was well known and respected around the area and from the local gypsy family for being the green beret marine after he broke a coppers arm in the late 80s for hitting him but that's a whole other story right there 😂 I think the older generation were just built differently, especially these old fighting gypsys, but any man willing to fight fair or for his family has my respect, not that it means much 😂
Beautiful people just seeking a slice of peace under a blue sky
R.I.P TO THIS LEGEND BARTLEY GORMAN HIS LEGACY WILL REMAIN IN THE HEARTS OF ALL TRAVELLERS ❤🥊🙏
😎
Hearing him hitting the bag every single punch had to be devastating
like a wrecking ball I'd say. Bare fisted on the bag too
Ye definitely had a hell of a crack, but not even 25% the power an elite heavyweight pro could generate
@@MrDanybe you do realise he’s 51 there imagine him when he was 30 in his prime
I hope shane one day makes a full 3 hour doc or film about this man. Read bartlys book if you havent already, its brilliant.
This man's genes are the reason Tyson Fury is so SPECIAL ...
Athlete wild hands flat footed Wilder
didn't stand a chance against Fury who's
been taught how to fight since the day
he could walk on his feet.
I doubt Joshua or any of the rest of
them could beat fury either.
He'll retire undefeated undisputed champion
Men like him won't go down unless
You kill him. Hardy breeds.
Mr Burton who Bartley mentions is a relation to John fury
I read his book whilst in prison it describes how he grew up & all his biggest fights including one with a coal miner who was said to be the best fighter out of all the pits in Britain, that one sticks with me as it was held down a mine shafts to lesson the odds of the police breaking it up (Thats what you call an underground fight) but the crazy thing is he talks a lot about his brother who he describes as a giant of a man that could out fight Bartley everytime but had such a gentle personality that he never wanted to fight
His big brother was harder..every time. Stroll on...I love travellers..wheres the audiobook....
Which pit did it take place?..I may know him..there's some hard old miners round here
@@christopherogley1714 off the top of my head I'm not sure which pit but I want to say it was in Wales.
Mystical old folk song, so much meaning of yesteryear in it that it gives me tingles and harms me heart. How many of those diamonds still survive to this day?
It’s quite amazing how someone who’s experienced so much violence in his life, has a really nice singing voice. Amazing juxtaposition
Arron Neville is the same
Watching him hit that heavy bag...this man hits HARD...
I thought the same..
And I don't think that when I watch a lot of men
very loyal traditional family man respect to him
After watching the John fury documentary glad this man got mentioned absolute warrior no men like this about anymore.
Where can you find it mate please
@@matttora106 Pretty sure he means this one czcams.com/video/Qm5G6-DECG0/video.html
Still have footage of big John fury holding the bag for Bartley Gorman if anyone’s interested
Great man a wise man and a respectable man if only all travellers were like him people would have alot more respect for them
He has a nice relaxing voice! RIP Bartley
Well it's not the type of ASMR I like.But whatever mate. To each his own 🤨😁😂
R.I.P Bartley, u will definitely not be forgotten. The Greats are never forgotten, what a Gem of a man. 🙏🇺🇲🗽🏴🙏
A real fighting man,,intelligent an respectful but a savage at the same time,,RIP Bartley Gorman
My distant relative was one of the last great bare knuckle boxers his name was John J Dwyer he grew up on St. John’s Newfoundland but he was a Proud man he went on to become heavyweight champion of America
That song he’s singing, the way he sings it..just hits the soul so hard. What a Man he was. 💪🙏
Wow . What a beautifully violent picture to paint . The song sing on. Good work Shane Meadows
The song he's singing has been done by many, but the one sung here by Bartley is by far the best version. It's called "The Raggle Taggle Gypsy" also known as "Black Jack Davy" and "The Gypsy Laddie"
A true warrior. He doesn’t court it, he owns it. Whatever you do in life, you need this sort of fire to be a great.
This man is the inspiration behind Tom Hardy’s Bane voice
Ah, you saw the same screen rant article I see ... or that vid on CZcams
True that
I'm also here from wired.
Nice you read the article too
Sounded nothing like bartley gorman
Much respect, from USA - always in your corner
Had a tear in my eye at the end of his book what a brilliant man a gentleman 👍
Paddy Considine nailed Gorman's accent in "A Room For Romeo Brass".
Well worth a look for anyone who hasn't seen it.
ooh that sounds very interesting, and i found it here on youtube lol only 480p but looks canny, cheers czcams.com/video/TywqhN8v4HI/video.html
@@Tacsmoker Enjoy!
Brilliant film
Another Shane meadows classic.
One beat ..two beat ..heart beat .... sugar beat.❤️
Bartley is a legend in the town I live (Hinckley in Leicestershire).
My late father in in law Tommy Boyle, who used to have a lot to do with Bartley in the 1960's and 70's has some amazing stories about Bartley and his brother Sam, the kind of stories Hollywood movies are made from.
Would love to hear them documented, a little late but still 😂
came here to see if this guy sounds like Bane, i was highly disappointed. [2]
Alexander Brown Hahahaha I did too!! What culture? ;)
Alexander Brown same
Completely agreee
He would if he wore a boom box of a mask...
@@ThePaynes2022 screen rant for me Haha sounds nothing like bane
That toddler is Nathan gorman British heavyweight boxer now.
I've watched this video a couple of times now, I always find this fact hard to believe, haha.
"Stop it"
There is no stop it...
"Howay please"
What a legend.
That's an excellent film.
Worth making.
Historically important.
I read his book in one sitting. Well worth a look, even if you don’t consider yourself as much of a reader.
the realistic fear he shows at 1:10 in describing the violence just makes him more of a badass, because he doesnt hide behind it, he confronts it and owns it.
Anyone who tells you they’ve no fear of fighting has never fought or is lying to your face.
I have read Bartley's book it was a great read a true fighting man.
I also too read it, brilliant read
I've only just started to read Bartley's book, what a great book.
This guy was a solid human being all around. I just can't see how Tom Hardy used gorman's as an inspiration for bane's voice. But I do wonder if Brad Pitt's character Mickey in the movie Snatch was inspired by him.
paddy considines Morrell in a room for romeo brass was based on him. pretty accurate aswell
Wasn’t for the voice, but for the way in which he speaks. With the pauses in his sentences
Tyson Fury of The Fury’s brought me here. RIP Bartley x
Can hear the Furys in that voice, the accent, the words and the beliefs.
The great uncle of current Heavyweight Nathan Gorman, and a relative of Tyson Fury.
Nathan Gorman is the baby in the video !! How crazy lol
J The babies mother said the child was the grandson of Bartley, but Nathan Gorman told me Bartley was his uncle!
And the current GYPSY KING!!! Tyson Fury!
This has got to be one of the hardest men I’ve ever seen! This man was a true king, a true champion. They don’t make people like this anymore!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
These are the moments that make life worth living :)
Brilliant documentary, no bs, reveals how sad the reality of being a fighting man can be
I read Bartley's book and it is the best of it's kind. No doubt he was the King of the Gypsies. R.I.P Bartley. King among men
king of the travellers😎
and he's a great singer as well!
Rockunstank he sang like that all the time, a real song bird
Yeah, it's a defo worth reading. My fav is Geoff Thompson's Watch My Back, though more so the original release.
Watch my back is a great book, it seems like the only book where it's 100% not exaggerated.
So Tyson Fury will never lie on his back and give up. Somebody should have told Wilder. Thanks to John Fury for telling me about this amazing gent in a documentary about his son Tyson. I wonder what Bartley would have done in the official boxing world rather than bare knuckles. Respect sir🙏
hes the stuff of story telling and legend! god bless hes a beautiful singer!
God bless you Bartley, when you read between the lines, your a true inspiration for life.... Thank you...
You’ve gotta have some respect for these folk, they live in a way the we once all lived and just haven’t forgotten their history.
Good old English gypsy. All gypsies and travellers should try take a leaf out of this mans books. Proper morals
Rhino 66 they're not English don't try and take credit
He's Irish Gorman is an Irish name
Indeed Sir
He was born and bred in England of welsh and irish descent
Respect . A warrior and thats how ya sing a ballad .
I live in Staffordshire and have heard many first hand accounts of this man. Never heard a bad word said about him.
This legend of a man was fascinating...........loved that short documentary......
I must say from those shots facing Bartley he is a very scary fighter! You can see he hits so bloody hard. Also his face looks tough as old boots. Jabs would just bounce off him I reckon. Of course his record speaks for itself but ti was some good camera work there, gives you a sense of what those other fighters had to deal with.
Such a fascinating story, i'm gonna have to buy the book.
The book is a good read I read it years ago👍
grungesoundsgood the books amazing, i wont spoil any of the stories but its unbelievable how hes still alive
Agreed, what a brilliant book. Changed my views on ‘most’ gypsies.
So so refreshing to find a video here of a true gentleman and legend ...
None of that trash talking callout crap that sadly pervades this culture 🤔
I can hear some of the inspiration on certain phrases, in some of the things like when he says "kill me" or "stop it". But obviously it's not as though Hardy's gone "Okay I'm doing his voice." rather than something he drew inspiration on as a base and built it up himself to what it eventually became to the point you couldn't directly listen to this and say yeah that's Bane's voice.
Good on Randy Lahey for spotting the bag!
It's clear where Tyson gets his singing voice from! O, and maybe his boxing skills too 😁
He has a great voice. I like this noble man and his noble soul.
Inspirational stuff, and great to learn more about the extended Fury family.
heavy heavy hands for a man of 51 must have been some fighter in his prime good jab to.
100% Real hard man, brave,honest and real, no bullshit like it is now ,fighting pride, and family pride .
People don’t understand the original gypsy way of living.
Family is core 👊
Fury deserves a knight hood , for what he has achieved , especially for mental health awareness(true inspiration ) for young travellers&non travellers or anybody with current troubles…can see em now , having a ☕️ cuppa with our Elizabeth 😂🤦♂️
Amen.
Well said 👏
Fury is a King he doesn't bow down to except any knighthood!
Perfectly said
Couldn't agree more, a real role model and a true inspiration 👏
Brilliant to watch how he held his fists, and how he hit the bag for bare knuckle work
trouble is...... if you've a reputation as as a hard man, you get no peace
@velveteyes79 til they get slapped up and sent back to their disappointed mothers
@velveteyes79 😂😂 so much talk no action these days, the gypsys have got it right really when it comes to sorting differences, fuck all this guns and knife shit, a good old 1v1 bare knuckle scrap and it's done and dealt with
@@shauno0806 I think it should be like that for all groups of people to sort out differences. This is why I respect them.
@velveteyes79 For sure.
I've known a few of them and they are people that are hard as iron.
It's hard to decide who is the toughest because I don't believe that such a man exists.
A fighting man is a man that fights until he can't get back up.
And that's in his nature. It's just a matter of who will outlast the next.
Training makes that difference.
@@shauno0806 bullshit they are up up all sorts
Bartley a true old school gypsy , very respectful such an honourable man , RIP Bartley, lengend
The way he sings proper stops me in my tracks haha. Like stop everything for a sec and listen to what he’s saying.
@@KK-fj8qk are their any other recordings of him singing like that? it is incredible.
@@KK-fj8qk thats a lovely story warms the cockles
I came here after the reference to the "Bane" catacter on a batman film.
Tom H, said that people laughed att the "voice style or accent).
I find irt beautiful and the dept of this mans catacter very genuine. Lovely singing! ❤❤
Neatiful video. ❤
A proper man, not many of them about these days. Big respect 👊
Such a nice man. Fighting was his life hard cruel and couldn't get out of it...
It’s in his blood he can’t help it
I came here to see if this guy sounds like Bane, i was highly disappointed.
McGuire’s are my mates from childhood. Beautiful family. Top man and men. Rip b. G
Didn't realise this was produced and directed by Shane Meadows