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In the example where you could roam bot while the enemy mid wasn't able to crash, wasn't he making more CS than you though in the meanwhile? Or not? How do I know - as the rebounder - if I should slow push to make you - the roamer - lose exp and gold in long run?
Skill Capped saying this is the most important concept in the game about ever concept in the game ever :p
Makes for a good video
“This video is about a skill that doesn’t matter much. Seriously, you can take or leave it. It’s fine.”
They are right tho wave management can literally makes you win the lane
@@d1legendary246 I just started understanding lane management and went from b3-b1 in one day felt so good
That's because alot of the concepts are intertwined and the importance is interdependent.
Good wave management gives you alot of benefits one of which is tempo and from good tempo you can get good recalls and rotations that will give you further control of your lane and of the game in general.
In higher elo when playing from behind you have to often out play to regain control of a game, because you can't as easily rely on your opponents making obvious mistakes.
When you see a smurf "outplaying" in low elo its purely because they can, not because they need too, in low elo if a smurf falls behind they can typically just wait for the enemies mistakes.
I love Hector's dry humor
I think it's quite important to note that you can let the waves meet right in front of your tower after the enemy crashes the wave, by killing the wave as slow as possible by last hitting right before the turret shot that would kill the minion hits. This stalls your incoming wave under your tower, otherwise the waves would meet way closer to the middle of the lane. This allows you to safely create a big slowpush
I do have to say that the "never going to happen in your game" int to the tower to set up a bounce back has probably happened 2-3 times in my games. The problem is I realize "I should have inted to tower to make the wave crash/set up bounce back" after the wave has not crashed and it is too late, but I have recognized that it would have been the play 2 seconds too late.
still good that you caught it, one day u'll make it work
look at your own upcoming wave to know where the enemy wave is at. so you don’t have to question whether the current wave will crash or not
imagine, as a sion, what i am doing every matchup XDDD
Thankyou , now my Gold support lux keeps running it down into turret claiming she’s making a play 👍🏽
She is making a play, just probs a gold level one 🤣
Problem is that people in low elo dont tend to recall or abuse the rebounds. They just wanna clear the wave infront of them. Had a perfect crash, wanted to recall and roam, AD wanted to clear cannon wave (which wouldve bounced to us anyways..) overstayed and got his recall canceled by enemy support. Was literally game afterwards.. he was as useful as the G in lasagna..
I knew about the concept from playing support many years ago, but when I would discuss it with my friends I always called it minion ebb and flow to try to explain what I was experiencing. Thank you for this, I never got the hang of mid and feel like I understand so much better how to punish people who constantly aggress now.
One of the sexiest executes I’ve seen. Why doesn’t THAT happen in LCS.
this is really helpful, i start learning wave management from u guys and i am not really that good at it and i win most of my early games
7:00 Alistar: "corki care" best mia lollll
The problem as adc when you try to use this concept is the brainless lux/brand that just ruins every single slow push or freeze you set up.
it's all about a friend we made along the way
As a Supp main who basically is a OTP Maokai, this here is where I get frustrated with ADCs in around high gold/low Plat. They constantly want to push the wave level 1 to where it's under their tower which often makes it seem like i am "useless" and often is punished by any decent jg. I switched to just going AP mao to more success because of this.....
type "freeze" in chat
@@raphaelnej8387 u think they listen or even know what a freeze is let alone how to maintain one 😆
yes ofc freezing isnt possible in 2v2
but it s easier to type than "let them push" or "only last hit pls"
and maokai is melee anyway, opponent should naturally get the push, if you play back, your adc will play back too, or die, but it will respawn and play back.
Skillcapped folk missing their E as Sylas makes me have hope for myself
new challenge idea to show value of minion wave Hector gets a bronzie puts him in gold but Hector is in his ear and is only allowed to tell him how to handle minion pushes.
No, i don't think that's the case, I think we all just enjoy watching Hector suffer in Low Elo, while we can't climb without skill capped. :( To Hector, and all the other challenger coaches, thank you so much for your knowledge, glad I did listen and finally sub to skill capped.
Hector gives the best guides btw
We have to admit we don't remember anything from the videos but we watch anyways for the humour
17:56 Anivia: *happy birb noises*
I've played that zilien, yone matchups alot, i learned to start e and just auto harrass at lv 1 ignoring the minion's completely this cause the wave to slow push into yone an eventually come back, at lv 2 yone is useally 1/3 hp and wave is slow pushing back so i can freeze and fk the yone compleatly.
Most yones like yasuo will just spam Qs on wave and not think about how they can counter play yas/yone mains are used to winning by spamming and asking pushing and it works in most elos however if your smart like you are being they will not know how to play into you. It's great. I'm a master player peak GM I don't yone at all but I started playing him on a smurf and sitting 30 games with 28 wins XD in silver tho so just messing with the champ since I'm a support player
@@TheKittyClink can be an addiction, heal it by being positive and feed your mind good and optimistic thoughts only
Listen Hector's boss: we love hearing him yippity yap okay?
I don't know why, but seeing Chase Shaco on skill capped 16:17 made me laugh.
It's always weird/funny recognizing high elo people when high elo content is shown.
thanks as a jungler this is all i really need to know and understand
I thought for a moment the guy was writing "time to improvise", which would actually let me have hope. Guess I'll have to keep helping my ennemy team on their promotes then.
13:19 I use this strat with neeko's W , playing as support.
Zyra plants, same thing. Also one of the highest base wave clear champs in the game which is awesome for wave control and late game
"I feel like I'm a teacher lecturing on 2+2" [yes I know not exact quote, but it gets the essence thereof] the issue with this is knowing all the ramifications when you do or don't do wave control right, how to abuse the pluses and avoid the downs, where 2+2 simply is. Also for some [like myself] who have never been serious about the game til recently [cause you can't even play normals anymore without it] the various ways to help force the wave state you want are not explained. Ironically you did a good job with this video talking about how to use rebounding waves and things to watch for, the issue for more casual or new players will be watching for that and all the other macro things to worry about [or for others getting caught up in mechanics]. Overall good video, will be trying to implement it into my gameplay, but it is clear you've been good so long you have forgotten what its like to suck, like your target audience.
me : *making a freeze so melee feed enemy can't kill us*
My support : *PUSHING TO THE LIMITS !*
me : *all-in one of those enemy and miraculously survive, then crash the wave to set a rebound*
My suppurt : "I'm gonna push it MORE !!!!"
So yeah, thoses play are pretty usefull ... if you are alone. Like, in toplane, i push to be level two before my enemy and then make a trade.
They run away, missing some juicy gold, and i take a delayed cheated recall in order to have item advantage. Once it's done, i'm taking the rebond, the level power spike, and kill my enemy.
I crash the wave, gaining a "true level advantage", so i can denied more gold.
In botlane ... well ... my mate just want to push, dying in the process, and then flaming i'm not good enough (even if i ping to help them understand)
Hope we never stop listening to Hector rambles
Looks like the guy responsible for music played a lot Subverse lately ;)
I feel like when I ask laners to manage their waves, they secretly say "F-bomb this Jungle"
What's that program that hector has script in
4:37 that was a very weird interaction :))
guys I don't know why but I feel like hector was held gunpoint during recording
So the secret is to have love island on second monitor got it
This commentator sounds like he makes his own kombucha
Hello there, I very interesting in your courses, but for now it's too expensive for my (sounds fun, filling terrible). So I want to ask - do you have discounts or special offers ?
Another thing for me to learn, yaaaay!
now show us master, how do u stop ur zyra / xerath silver buddies from pushing ur waves?! and how do 𝙎𝙏𝙊𝙋 ur jungler from ruining a good freeze?
As a zyra main, I suggest embracing the enforced rebounds and use the harass to get kills and plates. Also we like to roam too, then is the time to set up a freeze, which whilst ur up items/xp is a good time to handle the 1v2
"setup for dive with jungler"... My fking jungler forgets that there is something like ganking concept... And you want him to dive?
I love the rambles
try wave management as ADC with a random support who knows and care nothing of wave management :( :D
I play wildrift
And from what I've seen
Grandmasters and higher are the only people that use wave tactics
Really important to learn this properly if u want to climb
I basically won games against much better players just because of wave control
wildrift players are about as sharp as butter knives
wild rift is irrelevant
I've been a league player for a while now and playing Wild Rift is like playing against easy bots. Those guys have zero idea how to play league except at the highest elos.
Yes from what I’ve seen emerald plus are the only people to reliably last hit minions. Wave control is also just different with the difference in minions.
@@ooferdoofer7091 Emerald rank doesn't exist I don't think. Do you mean platinum or diamond?
Thanks Brother
it doesnt apply to Kata. no wave control
yet my friends still flame me for playing her and how op she is
ah yes she can only click her abilities on champion, poor kata no leg no arm
this is completely untrue. You can use this to minimize the amount of gold and mainly xp that you lose from perma roaming in your unwinnable matchups (which is most of them tbh)
we love hector
I love how he says he'll be covering this concept in every lane, yet still missing top...
what is top, never heard about that :3
There’s a lane up there??
8:40 dorans blade vs ranged abuser
Ok who on the Skill-capped team is the UW player? I saw the Yasuo with the name "Azorious Player." Just know I see you fellow control brother.
just wanted to know as well jajajaja
Lol, your name in the Yasuo clip 😎
Most important concept to climb out of elo is to flip the coin correctly, and get the better team. Comin from a Diamond player.
Keep talking, I'm learning while I work my way to sleep for the next day grind
this is good information here
i am high and learned something today. thanks
and dude your boss is wrong your rambling is what keeps me hooked to these videos because so many specific situations literally happen
Ugh I thot od make chally this year, got to GM was sailing, then dreaded gatekeepers, and sadly lost back down to masters :( not I'm a fully employed gatekeeper. So watch out master players I'll be at the door tryna close it in your face :(((
15:03 Did.... Did nami tried to ks xD she hovering the mouse over a one HP opponent xD
12:23 GONDOR AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HECTOR YOU ARE THE MAN!
Why is the Discord link invalid?
Thank you as ever, hector xd
The Ally star
The love island UK XD lmao
why i can't join your discord?
“I’ve even denied this zilean a cannon minion with this trade”
Brother forgot to mention he denied himself a cannon minion at the same time if you watch closely xD 8:52
He denied the Xp which in early game is more important than gold, Zilean was out of range so that's a mess up because Yone will hit lvl 6 first no matter what and that puts a strong pressure of your opponent if you know what you are doing
A minion gives more than just gold. He got the xp. Zil didn’t
Last chance for you to look at me Hector
I love hector
bullying hector supremacy🤝
Raise up hector's salary !!!!!!
REP JUNGLE
More rumbling pleeeeease
CLICKBAIT! (Not clickbait)
Azorius? I can see why you missed that
I'm italian so I don't get the joke about the G in the lasagna
Discord?
Good luck explaining your teamates why your execution is actually smart and not trolling.
After playing since s5, hitting d2 I’m quitting ranked. This game is just too toxic not the player base but the fkin game. Whoever enjoys this sht is a psycho
I refuse to listen to a Yas player 👌🏽
Imagine having bot
i always do this with taric top
let enemy push then i push back with huge wave and he want to freeze it so i roam bot lane and back with TP
after lv.6 roam and dive and repeat everytime i got R or i push wave
80% win rate btw in high diamond
last?
Rankeds are all about luck, you either have the afk or the person running it down mid on your team or you don't.
This year I decided to start playing rankeds, in just my first 8 games I had 4 afkers and 1 person running it down mid. 5/8 of my games where unplayable.
That's generally why in order to climb you have to be able to carry. Sadly that's how it is, if you're of the same skill level as everybody else then it's naturally a coinflip
@@deleanor9665 You know that what you said literally makes no sense. Even you are better than them they literally have 1 extra person. People might suck at league but at least they have a brain to be able to win a 4vs5.
People in higher ranks don't even bother to play 4vs5 and just all go afk.
@@ksiliana you sound like every silver player ever, literally every single player that touches this game will get AFKs and inting teammates, it will never stop no matter what elo you are in. What determines your rank is YOU and YOU only, sure some games will be unwinnable because of certain players who grief, but for the mass majority that's not the case. You can NEVER blamer your elo on "unlucky teams" it's so delusional. You are no less lucky than other players, maybe just worse
@@dantesilverhult321 Thank god that I'm not a silver like you then. I'm plat and all season I never had a single enemy that was afk.
If you can't accept the truth that rankeds are all about luck you are simply delusional.
@@dantesilverhult321 But just the fact that you assume something and are so far of, shows me so much about your character.
Like a wise man once said, no point arguing with idiots.
Lol
Watching these videos just makes me more tilted. I know all these mechanics. But even if you do all those things correctly: 1: My jungler ignores pushed laners for 12 minutes living under my tower 24/7 while I farm under it. 2: You can stomp your lane while 2 lanes lose even harder. It feels Riot controls most people in Silver/Gold because every time I get a streak going where people don't feed and I'm able to carry the game with easy I will 100% get a cold streak of games where all lanes get stomped and don't even give you a chance to make a difference in the game. Every. Single. Time. I've played in Plat and even tho its still low, I feel like that kind of shit happens less the higher you are. But Silver/Gold is truly the elo hell.
5th
am earlyyy
First
first?
Oh my god what fking closet is this guy recording from, this is painful to listen too, get this guy a new mic
these clips are getting worse by the day...what is this?
I don't think any of these matter that much. I watched most of your videos and i can't climb out of plat. But when I go on my silver account,i win games in the most extraordinary ways. I play qiyana and only roam,don't take any minions on purpose,im basically trolling but i still win the game. I play amumu and proxy my toplaner's minions,still win the game. I play yuumi and not do anything. I just press e sometimes and still win. This game is really weird. You can't believe how many times i intended to troll but win games. Of course macro has effect too. I usally die on purpose 1-2 times and only farm with adc. When people teamfight,I split push and don't take towers if there is not bounty. That's a strong macro that wins me games. But i can win without those in low elo like i told you. I am basically trolling and winning games its really insane. It is all up to momentaraly deciding in low elo games. I mean 2 challs will destroy 4 bronze in a level 1 fight you know. I even uploaded videos on my channel,watch my amumu and twitch videos and you will see that it's true
Then that’s why u cant climb out of plat lolll
That’s y ur hard stuck 💀
So your combat skills are what got you to plat, and now you're refusing to believe that lane control against opponents just as good as you in combat is an edge? Lol... typical ego on display right here folks. If you want to climb you need to manage more than how you fight, you need to control the map as well. Think of how much easier it will be when you deny your opponents farm and take their turrets, not from out fighting them but by the psychological warfare of wave control. Go watch some Pekin Woof and see first hand how crazy controlled every aspect of those matches is.
I am saying that you can learn these but the game is not all about these things. Go watch all videos and there is something will be missing I am sure. Everyone knows these kind fo stuff now,knowing these does not seperate you from others that much
sometimes i see people do the things they learned from somewhere and they f**ck up. I laugh at them. People freezing,pushing,calculating their combo but there is something missing there so i win by not doing the things they do
In Plat elo all this might be true but in silver all that really matters are mechanics and it's easy to see why. A plat+ player in Silver will just destroy everyone by outplaying them and easily snowball. At the same time the farming skills of regular silver players is so weak that it geniuenly doesn't matter if you get a wave more or less. It all gets coinfliped the next second anyways when the team does some random macro calls that are unpredictable to see because they make no sense and death timers dictate much more how much cs and xp one gets. So it's really just all about being able to mechanically outplay ur opponents while as a player with silver mechanics good macro can't win you much as you can't get anything from it
No, If you manage wave correctly and that they are poorly farming, u’ll have a big CS lead which let you be stronger than your opponent even without fighting.
And then, even with bad mechanics you will win. Not mechanical need in silver if your opponent isn’t farming
@@artenouze8278 U didn't really get it. As I, as a noob, have bad farming skills myself the C's lead I can accomplish by wave controll isn't that big. However my lane opponent gets much more gold by roaming and outplaying my teammates
@@Luggagga ah ok sure, try to learn cs’ing well it will help you a lot
thx
I know what a rebound is @skillcapped it's what I was for my gf!