This is among the greatest music i ever heard in my life. I deeply recommend their only album THE SOUTHERN DEATH CULT. It makes me shiver. Ian astbury was never never again so good in his career. This band rips everything apart. Each member contributed an incredible intensity to the sound. And this is one of their few not so brilliant songs. By the way, Ian did a damn good job as Jim Morrison impersonator in the Doors, treated Jim´s work with the greatest respect.
For those who didn't know, lead singer Ian Astbury lived in Canada during his teens and befriended Indians, then went back to England to play with a post-punk band. Upon coming to America, they became The Cult, but Ian's uniqueness made him uncomfortable with his band's later well-deserved fame.
This was not the predecessor of The Cult. This is Ian Astbury before he left this band and formed a new one called The Cult with Billy Duffy. This SDC band was made up of Ian Asbury, guitarist David "Buzz" Burrows, bassist Barry Jepson, and drummer Haq Nawaz "Aky" Qureshi. But it does say something about the unique voice and stage presence of Ian Astbury that everyone thinks this is the same band.
best I saw SDC was when they supported Bauhaus & it was Death Cult(great live) Then the Cult...& say's a lot about people if they don't know they were different bands etc etc
well it's wrong! SDC split up Feb 26th 1983 & Billy Duffy left Theatre of Hate & Jamie Stewart left Ritual to join Ian in forming Death Cult 100% 2 different bands.
Psycho Fish In fact J.Peel says: Once they were called SDC, then DC and now just The Cult and then announces Gimmick from Dreamtime. Also in Melody maker from I think 1986 ( I can check) there was a description of then the Cult as previously been (as SDC) 'severely gothic' - obviously referring to one and the same band.
One really has to SEEK OUT southern death cult.. although NOT insignificant, it was short lived. The Cult was established right away & has been the "name" for over 20yrs. Ian has alot of spirit, and is the heart of both bands in my opinion. Unique and unforgettable.
This is Ian Astbury from the Cult before it became the cult, he has the best voice ever, and the swagger to go with it, this isn't punk at all, this is rock with an Ian Astbury funky swagger that only he can do and he is the greatest singer ever period ...
this is pretty much when goth was forming from punk... "post punk" i believe would be the technical term, or maybe even deathrock. but no band ever really fits into just one label. and thats a good thing ^__^
Ian sings from his soul. He has that angst, like Dio, Chris Cornell, Layne Staley, and Morrison of course. When Ian sings you know it's Ian he sounds like no one else. and his sense of style.
@garethac81 : I agree. I love Southern Death Cult. My friend who knew them way before me told me to listen to Love and it's one of the greatest album ever. I see that one being sort of generic and this one full of raw (sorry I know, cliche, but true) energy and feeling. I listen to it for how it makes me feel, not just how it sounds. I wish I could have been there at these shows.
I always wished he'd kept this style. Though they may have been an influence, this sounds nothing like what the Sex Pistols did. Both punk, but very different. I can't think of any other band that sounded like SDC. All the instruments stand out too. Awesome guitar, bass, and drums. And Ian's voice is a one of a kind. I like Death Cult and The Cult too by the way. It's all good.
@garethac81 From joy division and theatre of hate to jim morisson and the doors - I think it was a natural progression. both avenues quite dark and raw and similar I think
SDC was one of my all time fave bands. My first trip to London was to see "Death Cult" as listed on the ticket being recored for "Dreamtime Live" at London Lyceum. Was a bit disappointed when The Cult went all "heavy" but hey, its all music ain't it? But we're all grown up now and I've got my tickets to see them with the Mish and KJ in September. Looking forward to that! :-)
The Cult were recently guests on That Metal Show on VH-1 Classic. They have both hard rock fans and lovers of the older stuff. I must admit, Not every post-punk band can make that transition to hard rock the way they did. TSOL did it. Danzig did too. I'm sure there are a few others...
I like a majority of Uk 77 Punk bands. However my two Favorites are The Buzzcocks and Chelsea. I would also like to say that Skrewdriver's All Skrewed up is a Punk Classic as well.
3rd rate comment from a nowhere man, I'd say. The Cult wanted to reach the top, so a metamorphosis was needed. That takes a lot of drive and talent. They adapted and years down the line, meet us like an old friend, a great memory, with a happy, successful outcome. That takes intelligence. Love The Cult and the genius of Ian Astbury.
Ian Astbury and Billy Duffy -- no matter what name they played under -- kicked total ass! Ian always stole the stage, but he couldn't have done it without Billy. Billy's bad ass to the bone!
I wouldn't call them hair metal. It was AC/DC ish..loud crunching guitars and more melody. I like everything they did from Southern Death Cult to the Cult. By the way, nothing wrong with hard rock & heavy metal.
Most punk bands took a page from the Stooges but you're right that the Damned did to a large degree. On Neat Neat "I feel alright" is basically a remake of "1970". I never loved the pistols though, they were kind of like the Monkees of punk rock, put together by Malcolm McClarren. To this day I still don't own any pistols records.
Great music… you kind of make sense of that whole Indian narrative now … then what 40 years pass and he’s in the Doors. Remember that scene with the Native American Indian in the beginning of Oliver Stones film…. Full circle.
I read once,somewhere,that they had to change/tone it down/become more marketable/mainstream (their SDC/DC name) if they were to acquire a record label/support.And that's how it goes in the big pond kiddies.
@Tobbedans I'm guessing you and few others came into this fans of the AOR/Rock/Metal version of The Cult, and were surprised (unpleasantly?) to see Ian's postpunk/deathrock roots. Southern Death Cult is very different from The Cult, as you've obviously figured. Still, they meant a lot to their small but devoted fanbase of dark punk lovers.
@LoogieV -not too good at this,but ,im almost 50,and have liked them since the start (82-83 ? )-they were Southern Death Cult , Death Cult,and finally, The Cult.why the changes of names ,looks , and sound.....no idea
@garethac81 I guess when Ian went to do his own thing, he wanted to do something with his rock influences? If you listen to Death Cult and the first couple of Cult LPs I think you can here a progression. After that I admit it does seem fragmented :P
" WE WILL SURVIVE " sings young Ian...sofar we did. Whether we will survive genetical manipulation (= social and genetical engineering to reduce worldpopulation 85%) via COVID19 vaccinations in 2021 is another matter...
Yes, they were deathrock. They aren't anymore, but they definitely were. It's kind of like when Pantera was glam. Pantera morphed into metal, but at one time they were glam. So Ian Astbury was deathrock stylin' then he morphed into rock. Shit happens, bands change. They want to get paid. More money in rock and roll and metal.
4Your information... "Southern DC" are not the same band than The Cult is... Just IaN Astbury are a member from both groups... Billy´s a "Theatre of Hate extract...
there were only ten people at the concert; the other ones where part of the atrezzo or what??????? why do people not move at the shows..are they dead or WTF?
@garethac81 they sold out that's what I heard Ian Astbury didn't even want to he was pushed into that 80's hair metal scene very sad isn't it? The others kept the same sound for a while and had a side band with a girl can't think of the name but it was the same exact style as southern death cult.
This has to be one of my favorite live recordings, period. Astbury's energy is incredible.
This is among the greatest music i ever heard in my life. I deeply recommend their only album THE SOUTHERN DEATH CULT. It makes me shiver. Ian astbury was never never again so good in his career. This band rips everything apart. Each member contributed an incredible intensity to the sound. And this is one of their few not so brilliant songs. By the way, Ian did a damn good job as Jim Morrison impersonator in the Doors, treated Jim´s work with the greatest respect.
I love it when he looks at the crowd like he's upset or something. Scary! HE rocks!!!!!!!!
Love this jagggedy goodness!
For those who didn't know, lead singer Ian Astbury lived in Canada during his teens and befriended Indians, then went back to England to play with a post-punk band. Upon coming to America, they became The Cult, but Ian's uniqueness made him uncomfortable with his band's later well-deserved fame.
this is so cool!!! man the amazing videos you can find on youtube just incredible!
as a bass player, this is one of the reasons i gravitate toward goth + post-punk.
Remember this like it was yesterday.
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This was not the predecessor of The Cult. This is Ian Astbury before he left this band and formed a new one called The Cult with Billy Duffy. This SDC band was made up of Ian Asbury, guitarist David "Buzz" Burrows, bassist Barry Jepson, and drummer Haq Nawaz "Aky" Qureshi. But it does say something about the unique voice and stage presence of Ian Astbury that everyone thinks this is the same band.
best I saw SDC was when they supported Bauhaus & it was Death Cult(great live) Then the Cult...& say's a lot about people if they don't know they were different bands etc etc
It is the same band according to Peel who says in a show all their three names before playing Gimmick in 09/1984.
well it's wrong! SDC split up Feb 26th 1983 & Billy Duffy left Theatre of Hate & Jamie Stewart left Ritual to join Ian in forming Death Cult 100% 2 different bands.
Psycho Fish In fact J.Peel says: Once they were called SDC, then DC and now just The Cult and then announces Gimmick from Dreamtime. Also in Melody maker from I think 1986 ( I can check) there was a description of then the Cult as previously been (as SDC) 'severely gothic' - obviously referring to one and the same band.
SDC was the rawest of the three bands. There's just a tribal sound that each member brings to the band & it works so well
It's good to see some "real" punk rock once in a while...
Thank you for posting this! This version's even better than the album.
One really has to SEEK OUT southern death cult.. although NOT insignificant, it was short lived. The Cult was established right away & has been the "name" for over 20yrs. Ian has alot of spirit, and is the heart of both bands in my opinion. Unique and unforgettable.
This is Ian Astbury from the Cult before it became the cult, he has the best voice ever, and the swagger to go with it, this isn't punk at all, this is rock with an Ian Astbury funky swagger that only he can do and he is the greatest singer ever period ...
While i would not consider the music punk at all, there's definitely a punkish vibe here.
this is pretty much when goth was forming from punk... "post punk" i believe would be the technical term, or maybe even deathrock. but no band ever really fits into just one label. and thats a good thing ^__^
I got up on stage and sang side by side with him when he was fronting the 21century door. That was beautiful
Rock this isn't. Post punk with that early goth tribal beat many bands used.
Ian sings from his soul. He has that angst, like Dio, Chris Cornell, Layne Staley, and Morrison of course. When Ian sings you know it's Ian he sounds like no one else. and his sense of style.
SDC REUNION DAMNIT
@frankkubb Thank you! It´s a shame that rock history only knows the Cult, and not the fuckin great SOUTHERN DEATH CULT!
This was taken from The Tube 1983. The Tube was a UK music show broadcast live on Friday evenings, Channel 4.
Holy shit what a great video!
Nice man! I LOVE seeing old Cult!!!
@garethac81 : I agree. I love Southern Death Cult. My friend who knew them way before me told me to listen to Love and it's one of the greatest album ever. I see that one being sort of generic and this one full of raw (sorry I know, cliche, but true) energy and feeling. I listen to it for how it makes me feel, not just how it sounds. I wish I could have been there at these shows.
this stuff is great as well though, the energy of it!
After setting up a lot of possibilities, the SDC moved on to working out with some of them the limits and the range thus obtaining. Kudos.
I always wished he'd kept this style. Though they may have been an influence, this sounds nothing like what the Sex Pistols did. Both punk, but very different. I can't think of any other band that sounded like SDC. All the instruments stand out too. Awesome guitar, bass, and drums. And Ian's voice is a one of a kind. I like Death Cult and The Cult too by the way. It's all good.
ONE OF THE GREATS IN DEATH ROCK HISTORY
Mint bass sound and playing
@garethac81 From joy division and theatre of hate to jim morisson and the doors - I think it was a natural progression. both avenues quite dark and raw and similar I think
SDC was one of my all time fave bands. My first trip to London was to see "Death Cult" as listed on the ticket being recored for "Dreamtime Live" at London Lyceum.
Was a bit disappointed when The Cult went all "heavy" but hey, its all music ain't it? But we're all grown up now and I've got my tickets to see them with the Mish and KJ in September. Looking forward to that! :-)
The Cult were recently guests on That Metal Show on VH-1 Classic. They have both hard rock fans and lovers of the older stuff. I must admit, Not every post-punk band can make that transition to hard rock the way they did. TSOL did it. Danzig did too. I'm sure there are a few others...
A 19 year old Ian Astbury.. To this he's 50 now..
Positive-Punk, Serious.
yes!
I like a majority of Uk 77 Punk bands. However my two Favorites are The Buzzcocks and Chelsea. I would also like to say that Skrewdriver's All Skrewed up is a Punk Classic as well.
3rd rate comment from a nowhere man, I'd say. The Cult wanted to reach the top, so a metamorphosis was needed. That takes a lot of drive and talent. They adapted and years down the line, meet us like an old friend, a great memory, with a happy, successful outcome. That takes intelligence. Love The Cult and the genius of Ian Astbury.
Ian Astbury and Billy Duffy -- no matter what name they played under -- kicked total ass! Ian always stole the stage, but he couldn't have done it without Billy. Billy's bad ass to the bone!
for what is worth, ian always put a soul on his songs be it sdc,dc or the cult. NOBODY CAN WRITE A SONG AS ANTEMIC AS SHE SELLS SANCTUARY
Or Sweet Soul Sister!
I always wondered what i looked like when i was on speed, Astbury shows me lol ;)
Hell yeah!
These boys wiped the floor with the Cult
buenisimos the drums explosion
Just saw The Cult in San Diego last week. Good times. I'm sure you'll get your money's worth Nobsworth99
I wouldn't call them hair metal. It was AC/DC ish..loud crunching guitars and more melody. I like everything they did from Southern Death Cult to the Cult. By the way, nothing wrong with hard rock & heavy metal.
Most punk bands took a page from the Stooges but you're right that the Damned did to a large degree. On Neat Neat "I feel alright" is basically a remake of "1970". I never loved the pistols though, they were kind of like the Monkees of punk rock, put together by Malcolm McClarren. To this day I still don't own any pistols records.
Great stuff
Exclente banda
brilliant!
Great music… you kind of make sense of that whole Indian narrative now … then what 40 years pass and he’s in the Doors. Remember that scene with the Native American Indian in the beginning of Oliver Stones film…. Full circle.
I listen to AOR/Melodic rock but i like Cult in every period.
I love his native american theme in this outfit. He's got war paint too.
Yes I do! Here's the whole setlist:
THE CROW/ THE GIRL/ APACHE/ VIVISECTION/ WAR SONG/ MOYA/ THE CRYPT/ VIVISECTION
i feel so cool listening to them like this *lol*
I read once,somewhere,that they had to change/tone it down/become more marketable/mainstream (their SDC/DC name) if they were to acquire a record label/support.And that's how it goes in the big pond kiddies.
was at there best gig
the cult still kicks ass.
Saw them again last year. Time to give up boys- won't bother again
Thanks for the info. I thought it was him based on his voice alone.
grande Maestro
!!
BADASS!
I kind of like that power-pop esque material produced on "Phantasmagoria" and all the other albums.
@Tobbedans I'm guessing you and few others came into this fans of the AOR/Rock/Metal version of The Cult, and were surprised (unpleasantly?) to see Ian's postpunk/deathrock roots. Southern Death Cult is very different from The Cult, as you've obviously figured. Still, they meant a lot to their small but devoted fanbase of dark punk lovers.
Bien arrecho
thanx, I love crass btw ;)
Billy was added at Death Cult...not Southern Death Cult.
This is deffo Adam ant Ahhh never thought Ian would go though this scene unusual Ahh cool
thank you great aporte!!!!! para la comunidad the cult un video inconseguible
Hey Good to see this !
Have these guys only made one album ?
Agreed. Hollowman is also very well done.
@LoogieV -not too good at this,but ,im almost 50,and have liked them since the start (82-83 ? )-they were Southern Death Cult , Death Cult,and finally, The Cult.why the changes of names ,looks , and sound.....no idea
@chainrelease BEAUTIFULLY STATED,,I COULDNT have said it bettter myself!
cool beans.
Howz @ Ian early stuff...The early Cult
🎉❤😊
Not trying to be a bad influence but this sounds 1000x better when you're drunk.
this is from THE TUBE uk tv show...i would say late 82 or very early 83
@garethac81 I guess when Ian went to do his own thing, he wanted to do something with his rock influences? If you listen to Death Cult and the first couple of Cult LPs I think you can here a progression. After that I admit it does seem fragmented :P
what's the name of the frontman?
@Dufflad00 It's New Wave to my ears......
Holy Fuck yes
@chainrelease are you kidding this is a great song
@RobZandy correct
I put this guy's voice up there with Layne Staley of Alice in Chains and Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden.
Ian during his Adam & the Ants phase ;-)
just simple curiocity mate! nothing personal ;) I'm just interested in finding any relation between SDC and this... ;)
@RobZandy no their not. Death, The Cult are a supergroup and Southern Death Cult were a Positive Punk band.
" WE WILL SURVIVE " sings young Ian...sofar we did. Whether we will survive genetical manipulation (= social and genetical engineering to reduce worldpopulation 85%) via COVID19 vaccinations in 2021 is another matter...
why "mission"? am i missing sarcasm or something else?
The Cult was a good pop band but SDC had incredible energy.
@DrGoffika
yeah, but how do you know?
Leveller, it's also the symbol of atheism sometimes ;)
is sdc death cult and the cult all the same band? I heard they got famous and dropped the southern death part and became just the cult.
Yes, they were deathrock. They aren't anymore, but they definitely were. It's kind of like when Pantera was glam. Pantera morphed into metal, but at one time they were glam. So Ian Astbury was deathrock stylin' then he morphed into rock. Shit happens, bands change. They want to get paid. More money in rock and roll and metal.
4Your information... "Southern DC" are not the same band than The Cult is... Just IaN Astbury are a member from both groups... Billy´s a "Theatre of Hate extract...
He looks like Adam Ant here!
It's pretty vivienne westwood / adam ant but I dig it too.
POGO FOLKS!!!!
there were only ten people at the concert; the other ones where part of the atrezzo or what??????? why do people not move at the shows..are they dead or WTF?
@garethac81 they sold out that's what I heard Ian Astbury didn't even want to he was pushed into that 80's hair metal scene very sad isn't it? The others kept the same sound for a while and had a side band with a girl can't think of the name but it was the same exact style as southern death cult.
that is buzz ...
so, who's this guy singing... oh, you mean, Ian Astbury without long black flowing hair? ;-)
SouthernDealthCULT.. 😮😢 3:42
@Dufflad00 yea pretty much
is that the anarchist symbol on his t-shirt? why?
AGREED... ♥♥♥ The Damned!!!!! i could never get into the sex pistols
OMG IAN SO CUTE! WO!
Its an A in a circle,Its the anarchist symbol