MAX OSTRO or GUTHRIE GOVAN

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  • čas přidán 18. 06. 2023
  • Max Ostro, Guthrie Govan, both guitar player, musicians, love music

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  • @selliantuttimusi6735
    @selliantuttimusi6735 Před 11 měsíci +108

    Without Guthrie, Max wouldn't play the way he does. Guthrie's influence on him is just so evident.

    • @vanguard4065
      @vanguard4065 Před 10 měsíci +5

      without guthries heroes guthrie wouldn’t play the way he does.

    • @futile-evenings
      @futile-evenings Před 9 měsíci +4

      Without Guthrie's heroes' heroes, they wouldn't have played the way they did.

    • @vanguard4065
      @vanguard4065 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@futile-evenings etc.

    • @kojam1
      @kojam1 Před 5 měsíci

      Truer words have never been spoken. Never really had time for MO. Just wasn't into him. Watched a vid and thought OMG! Totally influenced by GG! I like MO now. It's uncanny how good he is!!

    • @DEE-qu5mc
      @DEE-qu5mc Před 4 měsíci

      BS

  • @sylvesterwarbringer8397
    @sylvesterwarbringer8397 Před 11 měsíci +181

    obviously Guthrie.. no doubt.. max is good with great speed but have to learn more to be in Guthrie level.. he can play anything and almost any style

    • @terryfishbourne6927
      @terryfishbourne6927 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Agreed

    • @brunofranca3718
      @brunofranca3718 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Sure!

    • @vanguard4065
      @vanguard4065 Před 10 měsíci +4

      max will surpass guthrie

    • @vanguard4065
      @vanguard4065 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Max, his current age is better than guthrie was at his age

    • @talsophos
      @talsophos Před 9 měsíci +2

      ​@vanguard4065 gurhrie had his his 1st album out at 19 years old with all his best stuff on it. Open for opinion but guthries skills were off the scale at a young age. As is Max who is phenomenon player

  • @CompleteProducer84
    @CompleteProducer84 Před 11 měsíci +49

    I Love both, and try to study both. It’s not really a fair comparison as GG has 30 years more guitar under his belt. But with that said, the thing that impresses me more about GG is that you can go see him play a 2+ hour set live, and he will give you everything. Away from the comfort of his home, and still blow you away with funky songs, jazzy songs, shreddy songs - utilizing everything imaginable.
    Max is versatile and great live too! (Videos of him in high school playing Yngwie). But we really haven’t seen Max get up there live for 2 hours and play a plethora of different things for an audience. I’m sure he will in the near future, but at this point, Guthrie impresses me more. And no shame of course - Guthrie has been playing for 30 years longer!

  • @roryoconnor861
    @roryoconnor861 Před 6 měsíci +9

    I enjoy listening to Max more, I think he has more musicality and a more recognisable style.

    • @Martin-di5uv
      @Martin-di5uv Před 3 měsíci +2

      his style wouldnt exist without guthrie...

    • @MikeBack
      @MikeBack Před 2 měsíci

      Max has more musicality 😂 Buy new ears😂😂😂

  • @ginomorales8989
    @ginomorales8989 Před 11 měsíci +16

    That live flatlands solo is legendary.

  • @JR-xp1yr
    @JR-xp1yr Před měsícem +3

    luckily music isnt a competition so you can actually just like both

    • @talsophos
      @talsophos Před 4 dny +1

      Best comment in here 👌

  • @agoeslaksmaha3992
    @agoeslaksmaha3992 Před 11 měsíci +39

    one and only Guthrie Govan

  • @peppesgabello
    @peppesgabello Před 11 měsíci +22

    Max Ostro is like this because Govan exists.

    • @maheritoky7827
      @maheritoky7827 Před 11 měsíci

      Yes bro! Govan and Quayle

    • @old_man_with_cane3407
      @old_man_with_cane3407 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Because of Vai and malmsteen...

    • @BartholomewBarnacleFerguson
      @BartholomewBarnacleFerguson Před 10 měsíci

      You don’t know that, he could have had other influences.

    • @peppesgabello
      @peppesgabello Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@BartholomewBarnacleFerguson he uses the same licks and style of playing fusion, so he's for sure a massive influence, ofc not the only one, but definitely one of them

    • @dafook865
      @dafook865 Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@old_man_with_cane3407not at all, i know cuz i play guitar and im tone sensitive been playing more than 80% of the commentors here so i know more than tham that there is no soundscape of vai or malm in Max's playing but alot of guthrie and other jazz guitarists but not malmsteen and vai.

  • @jamesa.paintingjap.7777
    @jamesa.paintingjap.7777 Před 10 měsíci +4

    The fact that Max is barely a young man still , and is even being compared is a huge compliment. Imagine when he’s been playing for another 20 years like Guthrie?? Both BEASTS.

  • @jambertin54
    @jambertin54 Před 11 měsíci +45

    Guthrie. I mean you can hear so much of Guthrie in Max's playing. Max is an amazing guitarist, but Guthrie is in a league of his own. Guthrie is THE BEST player you will ever hear. Not only is it improvised. It's real musical ideas on the fly. His brain just works on another level. When Guthrie is improving on stage, he puts every single great guitarist he's up there with to shame. Petrucci, Abasi, Paul Gilbert, the dream catcher event.. You name a player and Guthrie just has their number. He can do it all. Guthrie is special.

    • @old_man_with_cane3407
      @old_man_with_cane3407 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Nope, I will take Vai or ostro over Guthrie any day. Ostro has more Vai influence than guthrie... rock on.

    • @jambertin54
      @jambertin54 Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@old_man_with_cane3407 I don't hear Vai at all in his playing. Do you even listen to Vai?

    • @old_man_with_cane3407
      @old_man_with_cane3407 Před 11 měsíci

      @jambertin54 do you listen to.Vai??? I hear Vai in Ostro's legato style play as well as his timing, artificial harmonics, and modal approach to some of his solos.

    • @jambertin54
      @jambertin54 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@old_man_with_cane3407 Yeah I do, a lot. I don't hear it at all. Those aren't Vai sounding runs to me.

    • @old_man_with_cane3407
      @old_man_with_cane3407 Před 11 měsíci

      @jambertin54 I have been listening to Vai since his Alcatraz days and have seen him play live many many times. I hear Vai influence with Malmsteen and Paul Gilbert. You may hear something different and that is your opinion as i have mine.

  • @PhilBot4OOO
    @PhilBot4OOO Před 11 měsíci +19

    Max is still a student. Now he may be PhD Honours scholarship student with his picture in the main hall for achiever of the year. But Guthrie is the professor.

    • @PhilBot4OOO
      @PhilBot4OOO Před 10 měsíci

      @@BartholomewBarnacleFerguson I have no shortage of appreciation for Max's playing but somehow I can't warm to him. To put it in words he lacks some emotional substance for me, a certain element of feel or phrasing, not super sure but I don't get excited at all listening.

    • @BartholomewBarnacleFerguson
      @BartholomewBarnacleFerguson Před 10 měsíci

      @@PhilBot4OOO I feel the exact same way as you, just about Guthrie.

    • @PhilBot4OOO
      @PhilBot4OOO Před 10 měsíci

      @@BartholomewBarnacleFerguson I guess we're human after all

    • @manimusicka2
      @manimusicka2 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Haha! well said

    • @ejRecording
      @ejRecording Před 9 měsíci

      @@BartholomewBarnacleFergusongo see god I mean Guthrie live and you will have a spiritual meltdown, trust me it's astonishing seeing something of that magnitude in person and man do they put on a show laughs the whole time with their stories setting up the songs, which I never realized how much theme/scoring there is to their songs, mind blowing

  • @terryfishbourne6927
    @terryfishbourne6927 Před 11 měsíci +16

    No comparison just yet,Max is heir to the throne.

    • @sylvesterwarbringer8397
      @sylvesterwarbringer8397 Před 11 měsíci

      very funny

    • @terryfishbourne6927
      @terryfishbourne6927 Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@sylvesterwarbringer8397 How? You cant put Max(as amazingly talented as he is)in a two horse race with probably the most complete guitarist our planet has ever seen?? Its not fair and makes no sense. ...unless its a bit off fun.

    • @thatsamazin-
      @thatsamazin- Před 11 měsíci +2

      ⁠it’s an interesting conversation though. One is the most technically proficient guitarist on the planet. The other rips solos that are so addictive, they should be illegal. Maybe the video is asking who we prefer more than it is asking us “who’s better?” The title is very mysterious. Lol

  • @garycooper3066
    @garycooper3066 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Max is 19 years old!!!!
    So Max🎉

  • @teddiehl8116
    @teddiehl8116 Před dnem

    Max just has that silky smoothness.

  • @vig237
    @vig237 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Max is getting better with every video. But Gathrie is the Papa!😂

  • @marutfitness8064
    @marutfitness8064 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Getting comparison with guthrie at such a young age is unbelievable

  • @tylerjacobson8012
    @tylerjacobson8012 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Guthrie. It’s crazy that we live with someone whose probably the greatest at his instrument that we’ve ever seen. Guthrie is a machine. He plays with so much feel too. To be that technically flawless and that compositionally great is so rare. Guthrie is a treasure we need to prop up more.

  • @reynaldocastaneda4712
    @reynaldocastaneda4712 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Govan & Mancuso!

  • @labakrapscalio451
    @labakrapscalio451 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Out of the two examples i liked max's solo more. It wasn't just fast but it has feeling and the notes he was hitting were juicy and meaningful. I just like where he went with his melody out of these two examples

  • @dylankopff5062
    @dylankopff5062 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Both

  • @edgrewell2724
    @edgrewell2724 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Guthrie, easiest question I've ever had!

  • @lewybass5465
    @lewybass5465 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Govan, sem comparações.

  • @JeffCahill-tp8ik
    @JeffCahill-tp8ik Před 11 měsíci +1

    I've been privileged to see Guthrie live three times, from just feet away. Second and third times were with The Aristocrats. First time was with Steven Wilson and even though I was there to see Guthrie, I was so mesmerized by Marco Minnemann I kind of forgot Guthrie was even there! LOL.

  • @------YeahOK------
    @------YeahOK------ Před 7 měsíci +1

    Max all day.

  • @user-xs7wu2vc2x
    @user-xs7wu2vc2x Před 9 měsíci +8

    Max Ostro my choise

  • @bozalaysecacarlos
    @bozalaysecacarlos Před 11 měsíci +6

    Max: takatakatakatakatakatakataktakataka
    Guthrie: taaaaa takatakataaaa ta ta taaaaa taa taa taa
    That’s a huge difference!

  • @ButterBallTheOpossum
    @ButterBallTheOpossum Před 2 měsíci

    One day but not today.

  • @lastdaysguitar
    @lastdaysguitar Před 6 měsíci

    Guthrie! Masterful player!

  • @danum442
    @danum442 Před 9 měsíci

    Both x

  • @MarianoMercado581
    @MarianoMercado581 Před 16 dny

    Max genio

  • @sv3163
    @sv3163 Před 3 měsíci

    Max 😎👍

  • @lambertfooks7358
    @lambertfooks7358 Před 11 měsíci +22

    Guthrie plays with feel… easy to hear

  • @mokavadasz428
    @mokavadasz428 Před 5 měsíci

    Everyone is stuck on technic. Music is like the art of cooking. 1. You can cook a lot without spices, because you have raw materials - see mid-range and still run musicians. 2. You can have a very varied set of spices, but if you over-spice your food, it becomes unenjoyable. See sports guitarists mainly on youtube. There are plenty of them. 3. You can make small tastings with lots of spices, like in an elite restaurant, but they will only remain separate tasty bites. See Max. 4. It is possible to cook properly nutritious food with the right seasoning, without over-flavoring, with a high degree of sophistication, which is both nutritious and very delicious at the same time. See Satriani, Greg Howe, Mark Knopfler, etc. Guthrie is the chef who can cook something extra in any restaurant, but it may not be digestible for everyone. Everyone should decide who they want to eat with and whether they just want to have a snack or eat their fill. You don't have to agree with me.

  • @benz.7712
    @benz.7712 Před 3 měsíci

    Guthrie is known to be his great role model. It's the new generation. He plays brilliant guitar, but Guthrie is much more flexible, he plays less synth-sounding and more articulated. But Ostro is still so young and for this reason I think he will probably be in the top 3 of the best guitarists in 10 years!

  • @cabledmoon6242
    @cabledmoon6242 Před 6 dny

    guthrie is my no. 1 guitarist ever

  • @bigbrownhouse6999
    @bigbrownhouse6999 Před 5 dny

    Guthrie is one of those players that only comes once in a generation. Up there with Alan Holdsworth in terms of technique and musical knowledge.

  • @alfredogutierrez1327
    @alfredogutierrez1327 Před 6 měsíci

    Respetar los años....
    La veterania es un grado
    Max....potencial masivo
    Guthrie esta fuera de parametros...es una excepcion.....un Picaso.

  • @jonblake7690
    @jonblake7690 Před 6 měsíci

    Both are great in their own right.

  • @youztuber5000
    @youztuber5000 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Max hasn't even peaked yet...

  • @kotznr8793
    @kotznr8793 Před 8 měsíci

    Feeling is the difference...and Guthrie has it

  • @user-nr7vq9md5x
    @user-nr7vq9md5x Před 5 měsíci

    Music is not about competition (Guthrie Govan)

  • @zshathickhaque
    @zshathickhaque Před 8 měsíci

    I like max but love Guthrie ❤🎉❤

  • @dr.p3637
    @dr.p3637 Před 10 měsíci

    Both of these men are in the same league in my humble opinion. Max is clearly early in his career-- Guthrie is like the master of all masters. I kind of think of it like early Picasso versus older Picasso.

  • @garycartwright4860
    @garycartwright4860 Před 6 měsíci

    Guthrie and I love max

  • @fauzico1992
    @fauzico1992 Před 9 měsíci

    guthrie incredible 🔥

  • @Progmium
    @Progmium Před 8 měsíci

    Love both! Extremely talented. Guthrie has lived way longer than Max, thus more experience. But Max is an amazing player and still has so much more to offer in the coming years.

  • @MrKent84
    @MrKent84 Před 5 měsíci

    Clearly the hairstyle is the winner

  • @joesikorski4080
    @joesikorski4080 Před 4 měsíci

    GG has that extra touch of authenticity that speaks to his motto of quality and feel over technique. Even though the technique is flawless... the feel and justice to the song come first. Max is a phenom though. I just feel that extra touch of real with GG.

  • @peterpalmieri3863
    @peterpalmieri3863 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Very similar styles

  • @dirliedirl
    @dirliedirl Před 2 měsíci

    Guthrie. I'd love to see GG and Matteo Mancuso play together. Haven't seen anything yet.

  • @RICCARDOREARDON
    @RICCARDOREARDON Před 8 měsíci +1

    I WOULD HAVE TO MOST DEFINITELY GO WITH MR.GUTHRIE GOVAN..
    MAX IS A PHENOMENAL GUITARIST..
    BUT.,WITHOUT MR.GUTHRIE GOVAN THERE WOULD BE NO MAX..

  • @markknight6910
    @markknight6910 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Guthrie plays with a distinct influence of gained life experiences. Max plays with a fluidity of water without the distractions of life an older player carries with them. Still carefree. Whats expected of you by others impacts your playing whether you're aware of it or not.

  • @Studio-ze6ml
    @Studio-ze6ml Před 4 měsíci

    Não tenho guitarrista por estimação, porem Max Ostro me surpriende porque toca taõ bem quanto Guthrie e mais limpo. Max influenciou até mesmo Kiko Loreiro. pois o mesmo comenta em um podcast.

  • @DoktorDamage
    @DoktorDamage Před 6 měsíci

    I will take a nice dish of both at your convenience please...Thanks! Both are exceptional players !!!

  • @stevenbrock1432
    @stevenbrock1432 Před 7 měsíci

    Govan has my vote❤❤❤❤❤

  • @RebeleneM
    @RebeleneM Před 4 měsíci

    Max

  • @gollumssuffering4968
    @gollumssuffering4968 Před 9 měsíci

    Two monsters

  • @SaintsCheat
    @SaintsCheat Před 3 měsíci

    Guthrie Knowledge / theory, and that other kids relaxed effortless legato technique 🤘

  • @mickeyscott7479
    @mickeyscott7479 Před 6 měsíci

    Max...

  • @BaconIsNotBiceps
    @BaconIsNotBiceps Před 5 měsíci

    GG much more soul, but that comes with experience, so mad respect for Max who is a beast.

  • @JeffHulett-oy5ud
    @JeffHulett-oy5ud Před 27 dny

    Why choose? Enjoy them both 😀

  • @zacharyferrell7699
    @zacharyferrell7699 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Guthrie for now max is the new him in due time. Both light years away from everyone as far as phrasing is concerned. They are goated

  • @stevenscharf8822
    @stevenscharf8822 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I'm sure Guthrie is more improv experienced, but I hear more memorable music coming out of the kid on a regular basis. Keyword "I".

  • @nejou
    @nejou Před 6 měsíci

    Obviously Guthrie Govan...👌

  • @christianhansen3041
    @christianhansen3041 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Both are the best but l actually like max ostro. He plays with a little more feeling.

    • @billybones6137
      @billybones6137 Před 11 měsíci

      I agree - except you got that the wrong way around.

  • @springcougar1
    @springcougar1 Před 10 měsíci

    Guthrie is unbelievable. Hands down a god of the instrument. Max isn't even in his final form yet and is making huge waves. I'm genuinely excited for his career. 🎸🎸

  • @vincent7160
    @vincent7160 Před 2 měsíci

    Govan for me!

  • @atharvaranabaig2531
    @atharvaranabaig2531 Před 3 měsíci

    Can we have the full video by ostro?

  • @furthur96
    @furthur96 Před měsícem

    Love Guthrie, but max plays stuff I can remember for the melodic content

  • @OfirOrlinsky
    @OfirOrlinsky Před 8 měsíci

    I believe that the real test is not in front of a camera but live on stage in front of audience. Therefore for this specific comparison Guthrie is my choice.

  • @manolobueno1319
    @manolobueno1319 Před 5 dny

    Abim Finger cover ❤❤❤

  • @officialgreenson4201
    @officialgreenson4201 Před 10 měsíci

    I Always Love Veteran,Because No Veteran No New player,You Know Right? if No Guthrie,there will be No Ostro

  • @mikekelly1771
    @mikekelly1771 Před 7 měsíci

    Guthrie. Always.

  • @gcrauwels941
    @gcrauwels941 Před 9 měsíci

    Guthrie. Hands down.

  • @curtissteen2953
    @curtissteen2953 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Something too many guitarists forgo these days is getting a complete understanding of blues. Not just the patterns, but the general vibe. I used to play only metal stuff like arpeggios and modes, but I got depressed after a while because nothing I was doing had any real soul in it. So I did like a blues boot camp for a couple of years and it worked. It’s not like I sit around listening to or even playing blues music, it just became a philosophy to put some stank on bends, leave edges rough, and to think in between semitones. Nobody cares about how sterile you can play, except for other guitar nerds. If you want the ear of the public you gotta be real and raw. That’s blues 😎. So yea, Guthrie.

    • @thatsamazin-
      @thatsamazin- Před 7 měsíci

      Max started on blues at the age of 10.

  • @davidgarcia8782
    @davidgarcia8782 Před 7 měsíci

    The simple answer is yes.

  • @rintojulian2680
    @rintojulian2680 Před 9 měsíci

    GG !

  • @JonKovach
    @JonKovach Před 6 měsíci

    Id have to hear an Ostro album to decide but at this stage Guthrie.

  • @keeponplaying2625
    @keeponplaying2625 Před 6 měsíci

    Guthrie has the spirit! But who am i to judge....their both geniuses

  • @handsofstone1887
    @handsofstone1887 Před 7 měsíci

    GG!!!!

  • @sexyeur
    @sexyeur Před 6 měsíci

    The grooves are so different, not exactly a 'fair' comparison. They're both killing it, but on the blues side, Guthrie's expression takes on a much more powerful emotional dimension you absolutely hear, see and feel.

  • @ericgendell8874
    @ericgendell8874 Před 8 měsíci

    Max or Guthrie? They're both great and since music is not some juvenile competition I vote for Matteo Mancuso, Stephanie Jones and Justin Johnson.

  • @thatsamazin-
    @thatsamazin- Před 11 měsíci +6

    I prefer the more subtle approach of Max. Guthrie is a little too shreddy and aggressive sometimes. Max has the perfect feel for my ears and more memorable solos.

    • @christianhansen3041
      @christianhansen3041 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Absolutely. I totally agree.

    • @GLENLYNAS
      @GLENLYNAS Před 9 měsíci +1

      Absolutely 💯...Maz is far more melodic and has more feel ❤

  • @kakarot666.
    @kakarot666. Před 11 měsíci +1

    Guthrie

  • @NarutoOnePiece0805
    @NarutoOnePiece0805 Před měsícem

    Guthrie because he has more soul and feelings in his playing style

  • @dafook865
    @dafook865 Před 10 měsíci

    With age comes wisdom

  • @gordongate
    @gordongate Před 5 měsíci

    Govan for sure, he shreds and its both technical and musical, Max is just technical shred

  • @FretsOnFire
    @FretsOnFire Před 7 měsíci

    I'm glad I don't have to choose! Guthrie AND Max!

  • @ctmikeg123
    @ctmikeg123 Před 9 měsíci

    Both are amazing. I hear lots of Greg Howe influences.

  • @Frostwulf1313
    @Frostwulf1313 Před 10 měsíci

    Guthrie Govan. Love his Vai influences.

  • @gasiouswiener
    @gasiouswiener Před 15 dny

    GG is the goat, but Max gives me more of what I want to hear. There's some voodoo going on with max that is undeniable. That fact that we're even making the comparison speaks volumes for Max. I don't think he's a GG clone either

  • @DanDaMan234
    @DanDaMan234 Před 9 měsíci

    I think the answer is obvious.
    Both virtuosos...
    But one should not be even mentioned in the same breath as the other.

  • @tureiharris7807
    @tureiharris7807 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Guthrie's the GOAT. Max has an advantage, he's got a Guthrie to bounce off and can grow.

  • @petersonpaludo9366
    @petersonpaludo9366 Před 7 měsíci

    Two Monsters!!!!

  • @KhinjarSam
    @KhinjarSam Před 11 měsíci

    Both !

  • @Atreyu_
    @Atreyu_ Před 5 měsíci

    The solos we hear from Max are prepared, that's why there is so much harmony, Guthrie is unpredictable, always improvising, that's why we put both of them on stage to improvise, Guthrie crushes Max, he has more resources and above all more creativity when he improvises. much more than Max that when he improvises he is nothing more than a crusher

    • @thatsamazin-
      @thatsamazin- Před 4 měsíci

      Max and Guthrie usually do a few improvised takes and pick the best. I know this because not only has JTC mentioned this in a comment on a Guthrie video, but Max has also mentioned this too about himself. Max has also improvised everything since 2020. Guthrie is a phenomenal guitarist and great improviser but I personally prefer Max’s improvisations and overall playing over Guthrie’s. Just my personal taste. They are extremely different if one takes the time to listen to both thoroughly. A pretty good example of that is to compare both of their takes of “groove on”. For me, Max delivers more memorable solos. His playing is subtle, never overly aggressive, and almost always easy on the ears. He’s not an in your face chicken picken pinch harmonic squealing sweep picking maniac. lol He doesn’t even tap a lot. I really like that about him. He doesn’t overdo anything. He finds the perfect balance. ✌🏻

  • @AK-ContentCreatIon
    @AK-ContentCreatIon Před 4 měsíci

    Guthrie all the way... But one has to give Max a slack, he is young and developing, lets listen in 30 Years :-)

  • @danigolding5626
    @danigolding5626 Před 6 měsíci

    Si hubiesen puesto el video de max a lo último, dirian que max es lo maximo😅

  • @onderevrim6519
    @onderevrim6519 Před 5 měsíci

    Guthrie's mod changing is amazing.

  • @amalanjituchannel8359
    @amalanjituchannel8359 Před 5 měsíci

    guthrie is not about speed but is a complete guitarist 😁