Moses King, it's because the bishop was being incensed by the deacon and when he goes to the center to pray the Suscipe Sancta Trinitas he takes the mitre off
This is so refreshing to see. This is why I will not consider the vernacular Novus Ordo. It does not capture the majesty, power, beauty, or reverence that the real Latin Mass does.
Traditional latin mass celebrated on the 10th Anniversary of Pope Benedict XVI's Motu proprio Summorum pontificum, Notre-Dame cathedral, Paris, France (July 7, 2017) => czcams.com/video/EBuzm0iMRlc/video.html
@@oneonta310 Nothing radical about us, the Novus Ordo is a terrible replacement for the Latin Mass regardless of how it's celebrated because it threw out four to five centuries of the Latin Tridetine Mass being the Norm of the whole Latin rite, and an even older tradition from which the Latin Mass came from. The Novus Ordo is an entirely new, uncatholic service modeled not on any older form of Mass that was simpler but rather followed the principles Pius XII condemned of looking for a deeper historical example of the Mass as well as looking to protestant heresy and false worship to find material. No, you are no traditionalist, the Novus Ordo is evil and false and should not be used.
Traditional latin mass celebrated on the 10th Anniversary of Pope Benedict XVI's Motu proprio Summorum pontificum, Notre-Dame cathedral, Paris, France (July 7, 2017) => czcams.com/video/EBuzm0iMRlc/video.html
I am a devout catholic of 80 years, an organist and former choir director. I know and love the music of the era being rememberd by efforts such as these. It is well past the time that the core of the new liturgy be exclusively made the model of the prayer life of the church. It has been sixty yeats!. This is past the time of bowing to older sensibilities---even though they bring back nice feelings for some.
I have to admit that I don't like baroque music during Mass. Don't get me wrong, it's better than guitars and xylophones, but Gregorian Chant is better than everything.
Absolutely Beautiful and Magnificent!! What a very heartfelt sermon by a wonderful down to earth Bishop who truly impacted me with his sermon. God bless everyone who participated from the Celebrant to the sole parishioners!! May God be Praised for His Excellency, The Most Reverend Joseph Nathaniel Perry AuxiliaryBushop of the Archdiocese of Chicago. God give him many more years to serve the Church. ✝️ 🙏 Respectfully, Dr. Gennaro Giammarino, III
Please post the Assumption High Mass 2021. Record breaking attendance. They didn’t have enough Eucharist it was so packed but received no mainstream coverage. This is the True Mass of all time!
It would be wonderful to see it, I'm sure ❤❤❤ The agent Pacapapa 😈 in Vatican is doing its best to delete to holiness and beauty of the Latin Mass and replacing it with Bugnini's deformation. Let God bring forth the Truth.
So maybe I'm just uneducated about this but...what liberties are you referring to? Not trying to frame an argument or apologetic just really didn't see much difference between what slattery did in 2010 and this one. Though slattery is was a gubernatorial bishop
Sad when you realize this is such a rare occurrence nowadays. The beautiful reverence and solemnity of the High Mass is without peer. The generations born after the liturgical reform were robbed of so much. When the liturgical reform was completed Pope Paul VI said we would not like it, but it would evangelize the nations. Well, it has been fifty years, and let us ask ourselves: have the nations been evangelized? The answer of course is no. The Catholic Church has been decimated in its traditional heartlands, even in Latin America the church is in rapid decline, whereas in Africa and Asia it is prostantism, not Catholicism, that is evangelizing the nations.😔✝️
The 10th anniversary of such an important papal consecration of "Summorum Pontificum ie., papal authority allowing for the traditional mass to return to the churches little by little after forty years of being "put away." Perhaps there was a great spirit of wisdom guiding and hiding within Vatican II after all... Perhaps people had to see and experience what life would be like WITHOUT traditional Latin mass and the consequences of the "liberalization /Anglicanization /Lutheranization" of doctrine, dogmas and liturgy and SEE where that leads the individual, the families, the society and the nations at large... Ya, i believe i can now see the hidden wisdom behind Vatican II...we humans tend to learn by "contrast" don't we? Most souls seem to have difficulty when we are told by our church father what is good and bad for us. So much rebellion these days. What if all this time Lucifer, the most beloved angel of God, a Seraph, made the ultimate sacrifice for God when he said, "I will not serve you!" In the 60's people grumbled about how "old fashioned/morally strict/conservative" the church and its mass was amidst all the social restlessness, experimentation and distractions taking place...If it is not appreciated and intrinsically valued by the people at large, it indicated to the church fathers that the people wished to abandon the gift, so it got put away until years later where it may once again be "discovered in the attic" and finally loved and cherished at large for the treasure that it is. This old liturgical mass based upon doctrine and dogmas of the Holy Mother church directly from our Lord Jesus Christ, gave us a most beautiful "truth, way and life" to adore God, gracing us with a form of exchange of our heartfelt love for his infinite love for us by our own daily sacrifices, gracing us with sacramental remedies given us for our souls incarnating on earth filled with invisible demons tempting and testing us, and what we must bear in this our vulnerable human condition. God knows every soul and knows all things. Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter (FSSP) traditional Catholic pre-1962 Missal Latin Mass -Consecrated by Pope Benedict XVI - www.fssp.org/ Our Lady of Guadalupe Seminary, Denton, Nebraska www.fsspolgs.org/index.html
Lutherans use the crucifix. My wife and I have two in our home and there is one on the altar at our church. We also observe Holy Cross Day on September 14.
Jean Dominicus doesn't he get those before he starts down the aisle? In abbatial churches the abbot used to wear his "pontifical house dress" with buskins until after vespers.and he was dressed in his "house dress" in his abbatial.
What is the hymn used for the vesting of Bishop Perry? Beautiful, but I did not recognize. His Excellency appeared so comfortable and calm. Thanks to Archbishop Chaput for allowing.
@@MeowCockadoodledoo After reflection you may very well be correct. If the Bishops & Aux Bishops are under 30 yrs in service as priests they may not have learned the "old mass" One of the most beautiful churches in America.
Franz Schubert’s Mass No. 3 in B-flat Major - I had to cheat (I thought it was Haydn .. so it is just as well as I checked). :o) www.ccwatershed.org/blog/2017/aug/13/tenth-anniversary-celebration-summorum-pontificum/ Here it is on CZcams: czcams.com/video/wJQeY56Tlk4/video.html
The setting used here for the ordinary of the Mass is Mozart's Mass in C Major, K. 220, also known as the Spatzenmesse, or Sparrow Mass. The Schubert Mass in B-flat was used at the Assumption Mass on 15 August.
Why is Bishop Perry seated at the cathedra of Archbishop Chaput? Isn't it that he must be seated on the faldstool on the right side facing the people not on the cathedra since he is not the local ordinary of the Archdiocese of Philadelphia?
He mentioned in the homily that they are such good friends that chaput let him use it. Stuff like this always happens in the USA. In 2010 the Latin mass at the shrine in DC had bishop slattery dawn the cappa magna and he has never been archbishop of DC, but when they are really good friends these things happen. Fyi. I know and understand where you're coming from, these are not the typical norms. Yet, I would dare say that the men who do get these allowances aren't your run of the mill bishops either=they're work warrants recognition that most people, even rome, will never know of here on earth.
@@itsnando20 yeah, it makes since because it's a shrine. Still the cappa magna is reserved for the governing bishop of the diocese. There was a time when this was not the case(pre v2) but now if the guy in the cappa magna isnt the gubernatorial bishop of the see its evidence of what I mentioned in the first post.
I can't stand it when they are constantly talking over the liturgy. If there I one reason I like the Tlm over the novus ordo is because the no has way too much talking. Even in a pontifical mass there are spaces for silence. I know you dont appreciate that though so... yeah sure add another commentary to drown out the liturgy. Even I learn stuff from the commentaries but that's not needed at every pontifical mass.
Over fifty years have passed since the liturgical changes in 1965. Rural churches never saw this kind of liturgy. One had to go the Cathedral to see it and that was miles away. Ritual and Rubric was burdensome. Beautiful as it is and I so wish it could come back to High Mass and Missa Cantata and Low Mass, I don't believe the general faithful of the 21st Century have the appetite for it because it is long and complicated. This mass is glorious, but I am in a minority. We can have latin again, but it will be for a minority. Debunking the Novus Ordo as invalid or vice versa serves to divide the Church. I feel there is room for all us without the elitism that often accompanies the Tridentine Mass. That is the real tragedy.
Nope. I will have to disagree with you. These peoples who yearn for beautiful liturgy will not yearn for this form of liturgy if there's nothing wrong with the current liturgy we have now. Peoples are sick of badly executed liturgy in the new liturgy. Peoples are sick of the Council being interpreted wrongly. These peoples accepted Vatican council II, but they felt something is wrong with its implemented liturgy, or how it was even been understood. If only from the end of the Council, the liturgy is explained in very much detail, with no watering down of the beauty (using cheap vestmens and vain music) and authenticity (uniformity in rubric and doctrine), peoples will not yearn for the older.
The problem with Vatican II was that really few read the documents, even fewer really understood the Spirit and message of the Council Vatican II was and is the most shattering of all Councils. It, the Council became a battle between the Curia and the Bishops of the Church. The Curia lost and the victors went home to implement the Decrees. Those that consider Vatican II as evil and the source of all the ills in the Church are wrong. The Church, the Bride of Christ is despite all that us Catholics have done still is a Light to the Nations. Have faith, the Council was inspired by the Holy Sprit and Christ Himself promised to Peter that not even the gates of Hell would prevail against her.
Americans have a struggle pulling off the Gregorian Chant. It's an accent thing. Here in Australia, as well as other English commonwealth countries it's a different story. And what's with all the orchestral music? I thought this was a traditional latin mass?
What's wrong with orchestral music, these masses call to mind the masses of Mozart and Haydn, well not really but it is done in the same tradition, the Mass doesn't need to be in all Gregorian Chant.
So the truth is you could watch a latin mass from the 1940's here on youtube and hear an orchestral chior and it is only a solemn mass for an order of monks. So if monks were using orchestral music in the 1940's I have to ask all "traditionalists" what year of tradition do you all appeal to so we can have a decision on rubrics. Because my belief is that even when we do decide a year there will be an overwhelming number of trads who still say blank year is the more appropriate way to do mass. It's not about what is most traditional at this point, even trent recognized that, but that its what's most catholic-that which is most universal/unifiying for what is Roman Catholic. In a loose way, history tells us, regardless of music used there are vestments appropriate and ad orientem along with Latin Canon is the thread that has remained no matter if it was a priest monk or bishop at any point in time. Not to say anything about communion with roman pontiff, magesterium,or sacred scripture or any theologically framed doctrine or dogmas
@@lordjesuschristhavemercyon3251 oh, ok. I always thought the Tridentine Mass had to be void of all worldly music; and that only the organ was suitable. 'Posh' music can be really distracting for prayer; it's not unlike protestant mega-church worship services with synth music, keyboards and electric guitars.
@@lordjesuschristhavemercyon3251 Pope Pius X have issued a document that actually prohibited the use of orchestral music in Mass. Pope Pius X highly favoured polyphony and Gregorian chant and pipe organ, but during his time, orchestral Mass was rampant in Holy Masses in Italy, that it makes the Mass Ordinary were sung too long with many repetitions and instrumentals used are very distracting (cymbals, brass, violin etc).
Othet "mistakes": Bishop wore proper choral dress of period, EXCEPT new sash (fringe) under the mantallata, no choir sash with pom poms. Also both amices, were priests ones.What happened to the RED ribbons? Bishop's Alb, NO "RED" UNDER white lace cuffs! Deacon ( must had been a Msgr) nicer Bishops' alb, than Bishop Perry! Buskins and sandals as someone mentioned, that gave me idea to comment on the rest. Throne and kneeler should have bern GREEN, not red. No Cardinal. Maybe Philly not as rich ad NY,NY St. Pats. They still change Cathedra coushins, carpet, drapes, etc. Depending wether Ordinary is only an Archbishop Green, and Archbishop who was elevated to a Cardinal; Scarlet red trim. Thats all. Dont want to get too picky. Good MASS. Grade: B. Need to work these Ceremonies to A to A+ as of old, so the N.O. liberals dont critize and want this valid and Catholic beauty of Liturgy celebrated.
I agree that there were a few mistakes made (and the Master of Ceremonies could have done bett, though I think he did a great job overall). But I will say the kneeler colour is actually an issue of custom. For example, in most of Europe, the kneeler will almost always match the liturgical colour as Bishop Perry's did. So it may be customary in PA to match the colours as well. But usually for the best following of rubrics, you have to go to a Mass with the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X, as their bishops only offer the Roman Rite not the new Rite.
An orthodox Tridentine Mass would NEVER include the squeeky, ear bleeding sounds of violins, etc. At most, only the organ should be used, particularly a majestic pipe organ. At best, the mass should be acapella like the Eastern Orthodox Church does.
Also, it appears that the bishop kept his maniple on during the homily. It should have been taken off, since the homily is not actually part of the Mass.
That is easily answered if less easily understood. As with the orthodox Synagogue custom, a bend of the knee or turn-and-bow (even to reach out with fingers kissed to the lips) during the Torah Procession was once common; this was a pious devotion .. not a liturgical act .. paid only occasionally to the Alter Christus (kissing a priest's hand), the Cross (Good Friday), or the Holy Bible (kissed at the Gospel reading) among Christians. Official reverence being paid more often to the Altar (a bow), the Tabernacle (a simple genuflection), the Host during exposition (a double genuflection), and at specific liturgical actions or texts (the Creed, Last Gospel etc), not least the pious devotion to the Holy Name Jesus (a bend of the head, removal of biretta). Most of which piety or symbolism was ditched in the aftermath of the Second Vatican Council (not being particularly ancient, in terms of liturgical archaeology). www.newadvent.org/cathen/06423a.htm
Yeah, in the Latin Mass it’s common for people to bow the priest celebrant and genuflect for the Bishop as signs of respects because they are in persona Christi.
It's really saddening to see some of my catholic brethrens with the pride of intellect, even to level of judging mass instituted by Christ himself. Whether it is Majestic TLM or novus ordo my humble Christ is present to bring salvation to humanity. More than liturgy it our hearts what Christ wants. In no apparitions of Christ Said that he is only present in TLM or novus ordo. Fighting on this cause is what I see the work of the devil.
The fact that our new liturgy has been wrongly implemented or even misunderstood by some bishops have caused such unfortunate judgy thing to happen. Of course God is present in both forms, and unless that person has got a grudge with Vatican II without actually reading it, peoples who yearn for this old liturgy actually wanted to speak their mind on what went wrong and how it can be amended to make it right again.
Do you really think God is being Glorified by this or is it Men who distinguishes themselves in Brightly colored Robes in the midst of Gold and Silver?
@@randym.7238 the Mass is a Sacrafice. That's is what these "men in Robes" are doing. They are Sacraficing themselves for there to be a perfect Lirurgy. Christ Sacraficed Himself perfectly, so that we can inherit possible Eternal Life.
@@randym.7238 Because this is the correct way to worship God, whether the TLM, NO or Eastern Divine Liturgies. You think putting less effort into your worship gives more glory to God rather than making it beautiful? Apparently beauty = bad.
It looks beautiful although I'm not a catholic. I think it's more about bringing people together to ponder and reflect on our life than actually trying to ascertain a particular form of "god", because other religious gatherinngs look the same as this one lol
I don’t the understand the so many layers being put to the cardinal or bishop. It’s a bit extravagant the clothes and accessories being clothe to the cardinal or bishop. This is not what Christ taught us. Christ taught us to live simple so in every ways that we do we must think, act, and live simple.
And He is the same God which gave commandment for the vestments of Jewish Priest be made from gold, because he must enter the holy of holies, where God dwells in it, when he makes sacrifice to God, that when they vested in it, they are worthy and dignified to enter the Throne of His Majesty. That certainly shouldn't change after Christ, because that will make Him an incosistent God with His Word. Not that I'm deny the teach of Christ about simplicity, but we are supposed to do that in our daily life, in how we interact with other people. It should not stretch into liturgical function since it's God that we meet, we praise, and we worship in it, and it is just and right we put our best effort to make ourselves worthy and dignified before His Majesty's presence, and that effort includes our effort to dress ourselves in the best way we could, and for the clergy, to prepare the best they could have, and that means it will be even better if they could wear lavish vestment if possible, because all of that are for the greater glory of God. Ad majorem Dei gloriam.
What do you mean? The church is full of the faithful! You have to look at the video beyond the first couple minutes. Obviously you only watched the procession of the clergy to the sanctuary at the beginning of the Mass. Afterwards the camera shows a very full Cathedral!
Personally I have attended plenty of Masses with orchestra and they are beautiful Masses, with a very deep spirituality, actually they are one of the reasons I started taking worship more seriously
@@TheLeonhamm Pope Pius X also take into consideration the beauty of polyphonic music and the usage of pipe organ. However, his motu proprio did little in stopping the usage of orchestral Mass in other parts of the Western world, though.
its beautiful to see the church used the way it was meant to be used.
Praise the Lord Jesus for Pope Benedict XVI and his Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum!
No.
@@lordjesuschristhavemercyon3251 Yes
@@lordjesuschristhavemercyon3251 Yes. Why do you hate the traditions of the Church?
Amen 🙏
I was present for this Mass; it was all beautifully done! The music was excellent; my computer speakers simply don't do it justice.
What was the name of the Hymn (tune) when they were vesting the Bishop?
The organ solo during the Offertory was especially moving.
it so amazing how the Architecture of the church, vestments, music and the language resonates with each other.
I was a vestment bearer!:-)
Do you know what the vestments were under the bishop's chausable? Was that two Dalmatics on top of one another?
Moses King The bishop wears a tunicle under a dalmatic. They just look very similar.:-)
Can you explain why at 1:37:00 he put the mitre on and then took it off a minute later? It was a little bizarre.
Moses King, it's because the bishop was being incensed by the deacon and when he goes to the center to pray the Suscipe Sancta Trinitas he takes the mitre off
But the voice-to-text in the undertitles is total nonsense.😮😮😮
This is how i love to be traditional catholic :-)
Domine, non sum dignus ut intres sub tectum meum:
Sed tantum dic verbo et sanabitur anima mea.
Yes. Idem.
What an absolutely beautiful homily! Bishop Perry is the Church's pearl.
He is one of them.
Bow from Poland!
This is so refreshing to see. This is why I will not consider the vernacular Novus Ordo. It does not capture the majesty, power, beauty, or reverence that the real Latin Mass does.
That makes you a Radical Traditionalist.
Traditional latin mass celebrated on the 10th Anniversary of Pope Benedict XVI's Motu proprio Summorum pontificum, Notre-Dame cathedral, Paris, France (July 7, 2017) => czcams.com/video/EBuzm0iMRlc/video.html
@Bennett McCoy No. You're a normal traditionalist like me. You accept the Novus Ordo.
@@oneonta310 Nothing radical about us, the Novus Ordo is a terrible replacement for the Latin Mass regardless of how it's celebrated because it threw out four to five centuries of the Latin Tridetine Mass being the Norm of the whole Latin rite, and an even older tradition from which the Latin Mass came from. The Novus Ordo is an entirely new, uncatholic service modeled not on any older form of Mass that was simpler but rather followed the principles Pius XII condemned of looking for a deeper historical example of the Mass as well as looking to protestant heresy and false worship to find material. No, you are no traditionalist, the Novus Ordo is evil and false and should not be used.
@@lordjesuschristhavemercyon3251 😂
What a beautiful sermon.
Amen! Especially the story of the pearl.
Qué agradable es escuchar una ceremonia del rito tradicional con tan buena calidad de música. Impecable el Coro.
Traditional latin mass celebrated on the 10th Anniversary of Pope Benedict XVI's Motu proprio Summorum pontificum, Notre-Dame cathedral, Paris, France (July 7, 2017) => czcams.com/video/EBuzm0iMRlc/video.html
I am a devout catholic of 80 years, an organist and former choir director. I know and love the music of the era being rememberd by efforts such as these. It is well past the time that the core of the new liturgy be exclusively made the model of the prayer life of the church. It has been sixty yeats!. This is past the time of bowing to older sensibilities---even though they bring back nice feelings for some.
Deo gracias!
typo: Deo gratias.
I have to admit that I don't like baroque music during Mass. Don't get me wrong, it's better than guitars and xylophones, but Gregorian Chant is better than everything.
Absolutely Beautiful and Magnificent!! What a very heartfelt sermon by a wonderful down to earth Bishop who truly impacted me with his sermon. God bless everyone who participated from the Celebrant to the sole parishioners!! May God be Praised for His Excellency, The Most Reverend Joseph Nathaniel Perry AuxiliaryBushop of the Archdiocese of Chicago. God give him many more years to serve the Church. ✝️ 🙏
Respectfully,
Dr. Gennaro Giammarino, III
Please post the Assumption High Mass 2021. Record breaking attendance. They didn’t have enough Eucharist it was so packed but received no mainstream coverage. This is the True Mass of all time!
It would be wonderful to see it, I'm sure ❤❤❤ The agent Pacapapa 😈 in Vatican is doing its best to delete to holiness and beauty of the Latin Mass and replacing it with Bugnini's deformation. Let God bring forth the Truth.
Unto the power, awe, might, majesty, order, and reverence of the Imperial.
Escuchar una composición de Mozart en un culto católico, es genial y no cómo un concierto. Gracias por éste aniversario... Gracias
I have not the words to describe this awesome Pontifical Mass
This is a true traditional catholic Holy Mass
Happiness for the general quality of Holy Celebration. Surprise about so many liberties in regard of the Missale romanum and Caeremoniale episcoporum.
So maybe I'm just uneducated about this but...what liberties are you referring to?
Not trying to frame an argument or apologetic just really didn't see much difference between what slattery did in 2010 and this one. Though slattery is was a gubernatorial bishop
Sad when you realize this is such a rare occurrence nowadays. The beautiful reverence and solemnity of the High Mass is without peer. The generations born after the liturgical reform were robbed of so much.
When the liturgical reform was completed Pope Paul VI said we would not like it, but it would evangelize the nations. Well, it has been fifty years, and let us ask ourselves: have the nations been evangelized?
The answer of course is no. The Catholic Church has been decimated in its traditional heartlands, even in Latin America the church is in rapid decline, whereas in Africa and Asia it is prostantism, not Catholicism, that is evangelizing the nations.😔✝️
Bishop Perry could teach the Laughing Cow of NY a thing or two about decorum.
Is bishop Perry the only black bishop that does the extraordinary form? The rest including Gregory do not
Che magnifica carnevalata!
"A.M.D.G." ("Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam")!
❤
Dominus vobiscum.. 🙏
Are you a priest, Kalis?
Et cum spiritu tuo.
The 10th anniversary of such an important papal consecration of "Summorum Pontificum ie., papal authority allowing for the traditional mass to return to the churches little by little after forty years of being "put away."
Perhaps there was a great spirit of wisdom guiding and hiding within Vatican II after all...
Perhaps people had to see and experience what life would be like WITHOUT traditional Latin mass and the consequences of the "liberalization /Anglicanization /Lutheranization" of doctrine, dogmas and liturgy and SEE where that leads the individual, the families, the society and the nations at large...
Ya, i believe i can now see the hidden wisdom behind Vatican II...we humans tend to learn by "contrast" don't we? Most souls seem to have difficulty when we are told by our church father what is good and bad for us. So much rebellion these days.
What if all this time Lucifer, the most beloved angel of God, a Seraph, made the ultimate sacrifice for God when he said, "I will not serve you!"
In the 60's people grumbled about how "old fashioned/morally strict/conservative" the church and its mass was amidst all the social restlessness, experimentation and distractions taking place...If it is not appreciated and intrinsically valued by the people at large, it indicated to the church fathers that the people wished to abandon the gift, so it got put away until years later where it may once again be "discovered in the attic" and finally loved and cherished at large for the treasure that it is.
This old liturgical mass based upon doctrine and dogmas of the Holy Mother church directly from our Lord Jesus Christ, gave us a most beautiful "truth, way and life" to adore God, gracing us with a form of exchange of our heartfelt love for his infinite love for us by our own daily sacrifices, gracing us with sacramental remedies given us for our souls incarnating on earth filled with invisible demons tempting and testing us, and what we must bear in this our vulnerable human condition.
God knows every soul and knows all things.
Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter (FSSP) traditional Catholic pre-1962 Missal Latin Mass -Consecrated by Pope Benedict XVI -
www.fssp.org/
Our Lady of Guadalupe Seminary, Denton, Nebraska
www.fsspolgs.org/index.html
The Ordinary of the Mass could have been provided by the music of Lorenzo Pirosi. His music would serve this type of liturgy the best,
This is st john cantius choir and orchestra?
St Clements I believe, with Peter Richard Conte at the console.
Lutherans use the crucifix. My wife and I have two in our home and there is one on the altar at our church.
We also observe Holy Cross Day on September 14.
Does anyone know the setting for the Pange Lingua?
The tune is grafton. The song is Now my tongue the mystery telling.
Pange Lingua Gloriosi Proelium Certaminis
They forgot sandals and buskins !!!
Jean Dominicus doesn't he get those before he starts down the aisle? In abbatial churches the abbot used to wear his "pontifical house dress" with buskins until after vespers.and he was dressed in his "house dress" in his abbatial.
I read that these can be put on in the sacristy before the public vesting.
Can anyone tell me the name/first line of the hymn that is being sung while the celebrant is robing?
What's the recessional hymn? I don't know the title but I always listened to it when I attend TLM.
"Holy God, We Praise Thy Name." It's one of my favorites, and I had it played as the recessional at my grandmother's funeral. It's very moving.
In original German: Großer Gott wir loben dich
What is the hymn used for the vesting of Bishop Perry? Beautiful, but I did not recognize. His Excellency appeared so comfortable and calm. Thanks to Archbishop Chaput for allowing.
His Excellency looks extremely hot and sweaty
The tune used is Grafton.
Sacerdos et Pontifex
Benedictus (Canticle of Zacharia)
Ecce sacerdos Magnus
It’s called Now my tongue the mystery telling; but they sang it in Latin which is Pange Lingua (tune is grafton).
Pange Lingua Gloriosi Proelium Certaminis
Cosa rappresentano gli uomini in feluca e mantello?
Why did they bring in an Aux Bishop when we have plenty right in the archdiocese.
Had that been Cardinal Krol outsiders would have not been in there.
It is either other aux bishops are not available, or they have no good knowledge on celebrating 1962 Mass.
@@MeowCockadoodledoo After reflection you may very well be correct. If the Bishops & Aux Bishops are under 30 yrs in service as priests they may not have learned the "old mass"
One of the most beautiful churches in America.
I wouldn't change a thing in this beautiful cathedral. And oh. I wouldn't let a pope and a few cardinals inside it too..nosiree
🙏🙏🙏✝️✝️✝️
Latin in American accent is terrible sounding
So the Latin Mass is the current Lutheran Divine Service sans the latin language.
Please,
What is the hymn from 17'34 to 25 '?
It’s called Now my tongue the mystery telling; the tune called grafton. They sang it in Latin which would be Pange Lingua.
What was the musical setting for the Ordinary of the Mass?
Franz Schubert’s Mass No. 3 in B-flat Major - I had to cheat (I thought it was Haydn .. so it is just as well as I checked). :o) www.ccwatershed.org/blog/2017/aug/13/tenth-anniversary-celebration-summorum-pontificum/
Here it is on CZcams:
czcams.com/video/wJQeY56Tlk4/video.html
@@TheLeonhamm Thanks! I also thought it was Haydn's. It was somehow like his Missa Brevis in some respects. Much obliged :D
The setting used here for the ordinary of the Mass is Mozart's Mass in C Major, K. 220, also known as the Spatzenmesse, or Sparrow Mass. The Schubert Mass in B-flat was used at the Assumption Mass on 15 August.
Why is Bishop Perry seated at the cathedra of Archbishop Chaput? Isn't it that he must be seated on the faldstool on the right side facing the people not on the cathedra since he is not the local ordinary of the Archdiocese of Philadelphia?
He mentioned in the homily that they are such good friends that chaput let him use it. Stuff like this always happens in the USA. In 2010 the Latin mass at the shrine in DC had bishop slattery dawn the cappa magna and he has never been archbishop of DC, but when they are really good friends these things happen.
Fyi. I know and understand where you're coming from, these are not the typical norms. Yet, I would dare say that the men who do get these allowances aren't your run of the mill bishops either=they're work warrants recognition that most people, even rome, will never know of here on earth.
@@chrismo5212 I agree but at the National Shrine in DC, it’s the seat for any Bishop because it’s not a cathedral
@@itsnando20 yeah, it makes since because it's a shrine. Still the cappa magna is reserved for the governing bishop of the diocese. There was a time when this was not the case(pre v2) but now if the guy in the cappa magna isnt the gubernatorial bishop of the see its evidence of what I mentioned in the first post.
Would love to hear a commentary describing the details of this Mass and everyone’s roles.
I can't stand it when they are constantly talking over the liturgy. If there I one reason I like the Tlm over the novus ordo is because the no has way too much talking. Even in a pontifical mass there are spaces for silence.
I know you dont appreciate that though so... yeah sure add another commentary to drown out the liturgy.
Even I learn stuff from the commentaries but that's not needed at every pontifical mass.
I recommend watching the pontifical mass at the national shrine in 2018. It has commentary
Over fifty years have passed since the liturgical changes in 1965. Rural churches never saw this kind of liturgy. One had to go the Cathedral to see it and that was miles away. Ritual and Rubric was burdensome. Beautiful as it is and I so wish it could come back to High Mass and Missa Cantata and Low Mass, I don't believe the general faithful of the 21st Century have the appetite for it because it is long and complicated. This mass is glorious, but I am in a minority. We can have latin again, but it will be for a minority. Debunking the Novus Ordo as invalid or vice versa serves to divide the Church. I feel there is room for all us without the elitism that often accompanies the Tridentine Mass. That is the real tragedy.
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Nope. I will have to disagree with you. These peoples who yearn for beautiful liturgy will not yearn for this form of liturgy if there's nothing wrong with the current liturgy we have now. Peoples are sick of badly executed liturgy in the new liturgy. Peoples are sick of the Council being interpreted wrongly. These peoples accepted Vatican council II, but they felt something is wrong with its implemented liturgy, or how it was even been understood. If only from the end of the Council, the liturgy is explained in very much detail, with no watering down of the beauty (using cheap vestmens and vain music) and authenticity (uniformity in rubric and doctrine), peoples will not yearn for the older.
Bach wrote the greatest organ music ever written. So why start the Mass with some of his harpsichord pieces? Organs have pedals apparently ;-)
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It sounds Like they practically put the mic in the organ chambers! Smh
I know, ewtn always has mic issues and clunky camera shots
@@chrismo5212 yeah.
Song at 23:02?
“Pange, lingua, gloriosi proelium certaminis” (a hymn to the Holy Cross) with the hymn tune “Grafton”
9:41. 1:28:24
The Vatican II sect is not the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church still exists, but in a remnant, as it has been predicted about the Great Apostasy.
You are correct. So much has been stripped away and what remains is, visibly, not Catholic.
The problem with Vatican II was that really few read the documents, even fewer really understood the Spirit and message of the Council Vatican II was and is the most shattering of all Councils. It, the Council became a battle between the Curia and the Bishops of the Church. The Curia lost and the victors went home to implement the Decrees. Those that consider Vatican II as evil and the source of all the ills in the Church are wrong. The Church, the Bride of Christ is despite all that us Catholics have done still is a Light to the Nations. Have faith, the Council was inspired by the Holy Sprit and Christ Himself promised to Peter that not even the gates of Hell would prevail against her.
@@peripsumetcumipso it definitely needs to be ironed out a bit though
Would you place to Paul VI Mass in the same category as say a Church of England Eucharist?
@@johnking5174 I would.
Americans have a struggle pulling off the Gregorian Chant. It's an accent thing. Here in Australia, as well as other English commonwealth countries it's a different story.
And what's with all the orchestral music? I thought this was a traditional latin mass?
What's wrong with orchestral music, these masses call to mind the masses of Mozart and Haydn, well not really but it is done in the same tradition, the Mass doesn't need to be in all Gregorian Chant.
So the truth is you could watch a latin mass from the 1940's here on youtube and hear an orchestral chior and it is only a solemn mass for an order of monks.
So if monks were using orchestral music in the 1940's I have to ask all "traditionalists" what year of tradition do you all appeal to so we can have a decision on rubrics. Because my belief is that even when we do decide a year there will be an overwhelming number of trads who still say blank year is the more appropriate way to do mass.
It's not about what is most traditional at this point, even trent recognized that, but that its what's most catholic-that which is most universal/unifiying for what is Roman Catholic.
In a loose way, history tells us, regardless of music used there are vestments appropriate and ad orientem along with Latin Canon is the thread that has remained no matter if it was a priest monk or bishop at any point in time. Not to say anything about communion with roman pontiff, magesterium,or sacred scripture or any theologically framed doctrine or dogmas
@@lordjesuschristhavemercyon3251 oh, ok. I always thought the Tridentine Mass had to be void of all worldly music; and that only the organ was suitable. 'Posh' music can be really distracting for prayer; it's not unlike protestant mega-church worship services with synth music, keyboards and electric guitars.
@@timothyfreeman97 It's not that wordly since it's beauty is for the glory of God.
@@lordjesuschristhavemercyon3251 Pope Pius X have issued a document that actually prohibited the use of orchestral music in Mass. Pope Pius X highly favoured polyphony and Gregorian chant and pipe organ, but during his time, orchestral Mass was rampant in Holy Masses in Italy, that it makes the Mass Ordinary were sung too long with many repetitions and instrumentals used are very distracting (cymbals, brass, violin etc).
Othet "mistakes": Bishop wore proper choral dress of period, EXCEPT new sash (fringe) under the mantallata, no choir sash with pom poms. Also both amices, were priests ones.What happened to the RED ribbons? Bishop's Alb, NO "RED" UNDER white lace cuffs! Deacon ( must had been a Msgr) nicer Bishops' alb, than Bishop Perry! Buskins and sandals as someone mentioned, that gave me idea to comment on the rest. Throne and kneeler should have bern GREEN, not red. No Cardinal. Maybe Philly not as rich ad NY,NY St. Pats. They still change Cathedra coushins, carpet, drapes, etc. Depending wether Ordinary is only an Archbishop Green, and Archbishop who was elevated to a Cardinal; Scarlet red trim. Thats all. Dont want to get too picky. Good MASS. Grade: B. Need to work these Ceremonies to A to A+ as of old, so the N.O. liberals dont critize and want this valid and Catholic beauty of Liturgy celebrated.
I agree that there were a few mistakes made (and the Master of Ceremonies could have done bett, though I think he did a great job overall). But I will say the kneeler colour is actually an issue of custom. For example, in most of Europe, the kneeler will almost always match the liturgical colour as Bishop Perry's did. So it may be customary in PA to match the colours as well.
But usually for the best following of rubrics, you have to go to a Mass with the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X, as their bishops only offer the Roman Rite not the new Rite.
An orthodox Tridentine Mass would NEVER include the squeeky, ear bleeding sounds of violins, etc. At most, only the organ should be used, particularly a majestic pipe organ. At best, the mass should be acapella like the Eastern Orthodox Church does.
Moses King, agreed. The music was very distracting. Unfortunate.
Can you explain why at 1:37:00 he put the mitre on and then took it off a minute later? It was a little bizarre.
Also, it appears that the bishop kept his maniple on during the homily. It should have been taken off, since the homily is not actually part of the Mass.
So sad to see this may be abolished by the Heresiarch
How many thrones did Jesus sit on ?
I suppose two. The one he was dressed purple, and the one He is sat on now, king of the universe
This is Catholicism!!! Sad what they’ve done to the church.
11:50 - Why are the congregation genuflecting to the clergy? Sorry, I am an Anglican, never seen this before. Bowing down to priests.
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Because the priest/bishop was IN PERSONA CHRISTI CAPITI. It not an obligation, not everyone do this. It may depend on parish/region.
The priest stands in persona christi and is a successor to the apostles. Hence the genuflecting as a sign of respect.
That is easily answered if less easily understood. As with the orthodox Synagogue custom, a bend of the knee or turn-and-bow (even to reach out with fingers kissed to the lips) during the Torah Procession was once common; this was a pious devotion .. not a liturgical act .. paid only occasionally to the Alter Christus (kissing a priest's hand), the Cross (Good Friday), or the Holy Bible (kissed at the Gospel reading) among Christians. Official reverence being paid more often to the Altar (a bow), the Tabernacle (a simple genuflection), the Host during exposition (a double genuflection), and at specific liturgical actions or texts (the Creed, Last Gospel etc), not least the pious devotion to the Holy Name Jesus (a bend of the head, removal of biretta). Most of which piety or symbolism was ditched in the aftermath of the Second Vatican Council (not being particularly ancient, in terms of liturgical archaeology). www.newadvent.org/cathen/06423a.htm
Yeah, in the Latin Mass it’s common for people to bow the priest celebrant and genuflect for the Bishop as signs of respects because they are in persona Christi.
@@itsnando20 OK, that is not something we do
Do these people ever get to sit down? Good night.....
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Sad what the Novus Ordo religion has done to the Catholic Church.
It's really saddening to see some of my catholic brethrens with the pride of intellect, even to level of judging mass instituted by Christ himself. Whether it is Majestic TLM or novus ordo my humble Christ is present to bring salvation to humanity. More than liturgy it our hearts what Christ wants. In no apparitions of Christ Said that he is only present in TLM or novus ordo. Fighting on this cause is what I see the work of the devil.
The fact that our new liturgy has been wrongly implemented or even misunderstood by some bishops have caused such unfortunate judgy thing to happen. Of course God is present in both forms, and unless that person has got a grudge with Vatican II without actually reading it, peoples who yearn for this old liturgy actually wanted to speak their mind on what went wrong and how it can be amended to make it right again.
Do you really think God is being Glorified by this or is it Men who distinguishes themselves in Brightly colored Robes in the midst of Gold and Silver?
I think God is being Glorified by Men who distinguish themselves in Brightly colored Robes in the midst of Gold and Silver!
@@Thurifer2005 How so?
@@randym.7238 the Mass is a Sacrafice. That's is what these "men in Robes" are doing. They are Sacraficing themselves for there to be a perfect Lirurgy. Christ Sacraficed Himself perfectly, so that we can inherit possible Eternal Life.
THIS IS ALL FOR THE GLORY OF GOD
@@randym.7238 Because this is the correct way to worship God, whether the TLM, NO or Eastern Divine Liturgies. You think putting less effort into your worship gives more glory to God rather than making it beautiful?
Apparently beauty = bad.
It looks beautiful although I'm not a catholic. I think it's more about bringing people together to ponder and reflect on our life than actually trying to ascertain a particular form of "god", because other religious gatherinngs look the same as this one lol
This isn’t a religious gathering. This is Heaven on Earth. Come to Jesus.
I don’t the understand the so many layers being put to the cardinal or bishop. It’s a bit extravagant the clothes and accessories being clothe to the cardinal or bishop. This is not what Christ taught us. Christ taught us to live simple so in every ways that we do we must think, act, and live simple.
Matthew 26:6-13
And He is the same God which gave commandment for the vestments of Jewish Priest be made from gold, because he must enter the holy of holies, where God dwells in it, when he makes sacrifice to God, that when they vested in it, they are worthy and dignified to enter the Throne of His Majesty. That certainly shouldn't change after Christ, because that will make Him an incosistent God with His Word. Not that I'm deny the teach of Christ about simplicity, but we are supposed to do that in our daily life, in how we interact with other people. It should not stretch into liturgical function since it's God that we meet, we praise, and we worship in it, and it is just and right we put our best effort to make ourselves worthy and dignified before His Majesty's presence, and that effort includes our effort to dress ourselves in the best way we could, and for the clergy, to prepare the best they could have, and that means it will be even better if they could wear lavish vestment if possible, because all of that are for the greater glory of God. Ad majorem Dei gloriam.
interesting.. so many clergy, and so few people!! what does it means? maybe shepherds - occupied in rythes, etc.. -have lost their sheep..!!!
What do you mean? The church is full of the faithful! You have to look at the video beyond the first couple minutes. Obviously you only watched the procession of the clergy to the sanctuary at the beginning of the Mass. Afterwards the camera shows a very full Cathedral!
Look again, bubba...there were plenty of people in attendance. Only someone with an agenda would come up with your conclusion!!!!
Giovanni Rimini I was an altar server there, there were plenty of people.
It was all great until that awful orchestral music started to play, it's so distracting and theatrical, they should be forbidden.
This why St Pius X reinforced the centrality of the Plain Chants - only to have the orchestra reasserted post-Vatican-II.
Personally I have attended plenty of Masses with orchestra and they are beautiful Masses, with a very deep spirituality, actually they are one of the reasons I started taking worship more seriously
@@TheLeonhamm They never disapeared, even after the Motu Proprio and what came after VII were not Masses like this!
@@TheLeonhamm Pope Pius X also take into consideration the beauty of polyphonic music and the usage of pipe organ. However, his motu proprio did little in stopping the usage of orchestral Mass in other parts of the Western world, though.
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