The Expanse Aftershow S6E5 - Wes Chatham & Ty Franck w/ Shohreh Aghdashloo & Cara Gee
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- In the 5th episode of The Expanse Season 6’s Aftershow, Ty Franck and Wes Chatham welcome lead actors Shohreh Aghdashloo and Cara Gee to discuss the final season of The Expanse. Tune in weekly after each episode of The Expanse as Ty & That Guy dive into the development, behind-the-scenes anecdotes, and easter eggs of Season 6.
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I never got over how adorable and demure Cara looks when shes not Drummer. She plays that role with such a heavy and intimidating presence. Its incredible what she can do as that character.
Her transformation is complete.
I thought she was from the old Soviet bloc the first time I saw here.
@@DarrellTurnerJr Still better than the first time I saw her being herself (Cara Gee) in an interview. I thought they recast Drummer and was ready to rage on Alcon. An IMDB search saved me from a very embarrassing situation :p
I was so confused as to who Cara plays and was legit processing for minutes before I realized....
I agree. She may be the most amazing actress on TV. Her portrayal of the character is completely transfromative. You 100% buy her as that character, and her real life persona is NOTHING like Drummer. It's quite astonishing how good she is in this role.
I cant get enough of Shohreh's voice.....avasarala is definitely my fav character❤
Her, Drummer, and Bobby are some of my favorite female characters in history. Sarah Conner eat your heart out.
I'd always hoped she would narrate the Expanse. I fucking hope she makes some kind of cameo in the telltale game, even if it's only her voice. I first fell in love with her voice on 24 she played a minor(ish) role as a 'bad guy/girl' sort of but I've followed her ever since. She's talks like a deep fruity-throaty pussycat. I fucking love it.
Tell me about it.. I just turn in to Jello every time she speaks..
She is pure charisma
Shohreh Aghdashloo is a frikkin goddess, if she's in ANYTHING -I'm there💯
when Drummer cried. I cried. It was such a powerful moment
Wow, I had never seen Cara Gee outside the show. She's so different as a person than her character. It really makes me appreciate her acting abilities.
she's quite the loveable, sweet goofball, and she and Keon alexander have been freinds for years. Such an amazing job they do playing off each other.
@@ZakhadWOW Absolutely agree, the 'baby bump' story cracked me up.
Season 7 please!!! This is a great show!!!
There's a significant time-jump in the books. As far as I can tell they will pick it up again... one day. Unless you want a see a series with the previous main characters all in crappy old-people makeup.
See you in thirty years.
@@p0rq I get the feeling that Ty and Daniel (etc) are pretty committed to getting that up well before that, and I guess that means they'll have to adapt the story to bring the events of the later books forward somewhat. Whether Amazon and Alcon gives approval to go ahead with that however is another question
Well, that happens 30 years later. 🤷♀🤷♀
@@shayneoneill1506 They could wait 10 years and the actors will have aged an appropriate amount, because in this universe people live to 120+ on the regular and age slower on the way there. Avasarala in the books I believe is mentioned to be in her 70s, and in the show she looks about 50. So in 2032, Wes, Cara, Steven, Dominique, et al would have aged enough to pass for 30 years of aging under the circumstances of that civilization.
I feel sad for people who don’t know The Expanse exists. It is the best show being produced currently. All the characters are so well written and the actors are so good in their performances. Every character has depth and act like real people going through real issues. The sets, extras, effects, etc are all top notch. The fact that they think of all the details like the gravity it’s just so well done. I can’t say there is a poorly written character in the entire series. Drummer… geez… Drummer is probably the most well written character and best acted character in a TV Show since Walter White. Cara is so good. The meeting scene was only a few minutes long but we’ve literally been waiting years for this and it did not disappoint. The Expanse is SIFI done right and in my opinion the best SIFI show since Firefly.
would perhaps add - No.2 Halt and Catch Fire
Best SciFi show. BCS is best non SciFi show.
You should read the books. The book series is the best I’ve read.
Yes indeed.
true , i was very surprised how many ppls never heard of this show
love these aftershows. Wes Chatham is awesome. and Team Drummah!!! :)))
After all Wes is a real "chat ham" ;-)
Team Drummah beltah loada!
@@justgivemethetruth lol
💚🇬🇧🌱
Yes, totally Team Drummah! 100%!
It feels, like Wes is the shows biggest fan, which is amazing!
Ang lee once said, talking about Michelle Yeoh's character in Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, nothing breaks my heart more than when a strong woman cries. That Camina Drummer moment with Naomi is one of my top three most powerful scenes in the entire series.
I need to rewatch Crouching Tiger. But yeah, there is something very cathartic, and this case moving, for someone who has been repressed for so long to finally be able to let it go.
We viewers are so near to what appears to be the end (but, hopefully, maybe not). Let me take this opportunity to give all of you my heartfelt thanks, because you have been integral parts to the greatest TV show ever presented, bar none. Saying it is "great sci-fi" is damning it with faint praise. It is the best entertainment, ever, and has enriched my life beyond measure.
exactly., it's a great sci-fi
For sure!
Cara Gee became my favorite when Drummer was at the bar with Fred Johnson who asks her to retrieve the Navoo and she snaps back. "Can I finish my drink first?" Her tone and attitude are fantastic.
The Queen has spoken, I truly hope the Queen is right. This show should go on.
Hopefully she is not simply the Queen of Denial. However, there is a business model at play. It really depends on audience turnover -- a bit like a restaurant in a sense. Disney, for example, will not make more than 3 seasons of anything, no matter how good it is, because the show appeals to a specific age demographic. The viewers age-out in three seasons, and then there is a new audience.... no point in making more shows than the target audience will watch. Or plates of pasta at the cafeteria. This is a bit different in that accumulated episodes blur the concept of "season". Where the rubber meets the road for The Expanse, is that it is taking them 6 - 8 episodes to get through a book. There are 9 books. (Fine with me)
I have worked on shows that inexplicably went 5 or 6 seasons, two beyond the original three budgeted. Well, "inexplicably" meaning they were extremely good, and very popular. When you green-light a pilot, "nobody knows", to paraphrase Goldman. Then you get Cara Gee lighting up the firmament, and yes we would like some more, please.
please don't end this great show 😭😭😭😭
They have so much chemistry on and off the screen. This show is the GOAT.
Great conversation! With its incredible writing, I also loved that the writers had Avasarala say, "F***" as often as possible, because no one can make that word sound more convincing than sweet Shohreh Aghdashloo.
I watched an interview of Shohreh Aghdashloo on Farsi because I wanted to be able to pronounce her name correctly.
Her portrayal of Chrisjen Avasarala is my absolute favorite fictional character of all time and I think one of the most powerful and empowering female characters ever created. Shohreh Aghdashloo is a phenomenal actress and I want to see so much more of her in the future! Thank you all so much for this incredible show.
My three favorite characters in the whole series all together. What a treat!
Cara Gee is the best actress on the show.. Camina is also a greatly written character
100% Team Drummah!
And it’s cool that it’s character being built from character’s in the books to build drummer for the show. They have done such a great job transporting the books to the screen l
the brilliance invovled in the show-writers fusing and parin goff parts of Camina Drummer, Bull, and Michio Pa is simply impossible to convey in words. Drummer in the books is smaller figure, and Michio Pa is the badass. Vanessa Smythe did a brilliant job with the veriosn of Michio she was handed tho. And that Samer Salem (oh lordy what a hooooot man), he was so brilliant this season, and the Ankawala short showed him at his finest
This is a show where 'eye nuance acting' is so noticeable. Cara Gee is one of the best at transmitting meaning just w her eyes.
That scene with Avasarala and Drummer meeting was sooo satisfying! Nitro and glycerine join up? Marco is toast!
I hate that Amazon forced this final season to have only six episodes. I truly, truly hope the last three books will make it to the screen.
They will make more seasons. They better
Yes, killer episode and these two ladies rocked it. Beautiful performances and awesome writing. So well done. Kudos. 🙌
Drummer's scene with Naomi: burst into tears! 50-year-old guy knowing the show is about over:((( A-MAZING show.
I did, too.
Even though this show tackles modern issues it doesn't have that feel it will ever be dated. I mean the characters are so well written and acted that one can binge watch the entire series over and over again. This is just an amazing series I almost missed out on simply because the advertising for it just didn't to me atleast that it was anything special but I've been blown away at how good it is.
Well said!
Plus it never feels like it’s preaching to the audience, it subtly presents issues without beating you over the head with them.
Except for one thing, the macroeconomics. They botched it, but really had to in the TV series, to create the obligatory unemployment dystopia trope. If Earth still operates a fiat currency then they can employ everyone at decent wages, since there is no end of public purpose work to do, the MMT style Job Guarantee, zero slums, and end to nominal poverty. The neoliberal dystopia portrayed in _The Expanse_ will likely not be our future here in the real world, people will not tolerate neoliberalism for long (a prediction, not a prophecy you understand). But if you want to fabricate a mild scifi dystopia then neoliberalism/neo-feudalism is accepted by audiences who do not understand monetary systems. In 20 to 30 years from now it will not be so easy for writers, the knowledge of monetary macroeconomics will be more widespread, at least I'd hope, which practically will spell the end of the total bullsh*t of neoliberal austerity.
I'd like to see good hard scifi without a contrived dystopia. Kim Stanley Robinson could do it, he groks MMT. The Earth need not have had people living off welfare, you could motivate Martian colony with just a pure ideological schism (libertarianism, which turns militant, for example).
Greatest Sci-fi show by a long mile. Very underrated. Shouldn't be ending like this, with so much to give and to come. Sad time's.
just discovered this show and binge watched it all before the finale.
This show was BY FAR the best sci-fi show in the past 20 years. Thanks to the writers, cast, crew, and Amazon for making this happen.
Wow, Cara Gee is so bright and bubbly. So not what I expected from someone playing Drummer. Shows how good an actress she is.
I am going to miss these aftershows as much as the show itself! I love this cast and Ty so much. I can't accept that this is the end either. The episode was amazing, too. The show-down between them was nothing less than perfect. Drummer is amazing. Avasarala is stunning . Both of them are my top fav characters and great examples of powerful women. The fact the show has so many amazing powerful women is an absolute blessing. I am a woman working in the computer industry in my waning years. Seeing the embodiment of the future with such women in it gives me continued hope for the women to come in my profession that has, slowly but steadily, been getting better over the decades of my career. Thank you all, writers, casting, producers, actresses and actors, everyone who had a hand in this marvelous production.
Was only woman on the IT team for years. Agree with you re the impact of these characters.
The shows diversity without comment on same is also powerful.
By creating the Inner vs Mars vs Belter lines, they erased all others. Phenomenal!
Cara Gee is a great actress. The entire cast has been outstanding. Such amazing wide range of characters.
Wow! I didn't even recognize this actress was Drummer until they point it out. Kudos to her for such a transformative performance! Drummer is one of the best characters in the show.
Me too. I actually thought she was the actress playing Clarissa Mao.
Amazing cast; Avasarala, Drummer, Amos and Bobbie are the most stubborn but badass characters in the solar system. Wonderful show; why does it have to end like this!
I feel like I want to have a few favorite characters, but EVERY single character had weight and it was an absolute blast to see it all come together. It's the journey and adventure we look for in our lifetime.
Thank you ALL
I love how that there is so much diversity that you dont even notice it anymore. Which to me is how it should be. People spend so much time and effort pointing this and that out, that they lose sight of how humanity is meant to be. I love all these characters and the actors that play them and the story and thats all that matters:)
This show is incredible. I’m really gonna miss it.
I felt out of all the brilliant episodes over all the awesome seasons S6E5 was at the very top of the tree. All of the interactions between the various characters were superbly written and extpertly acted. Congratulations to you all for bringing us such entertainment through characters we love :)
The scenes between Bobby/Amos and Drummer/Avasarala were my particular highlights. The scene between Drummer and Naomi for me through was the most powerful of the entire show. Seeing the toughest beating heart of the show finally lowering her defences and showing her vulnerable side was epic on a whole new level. Cara Gee, I salute you!
I've interview actors before and most of them have trouble stringing two sentences together, so a show and stars like this is just wonderful. Wes and Ty ask good questions, and you can tell that Shorhrea and Cara have really thought hard about their characters and the world they're living in, and they give thoughtful answers. It's also impossible to think of any other actors in their roles. "The Expense" is going to be any list of outstanding series for decades to come. I'm just heartbroken I won't get to see these wonderful characters anymore (at least for awhile, I hope) but I'm grateful I was along for the ride now. Graditude...
"and they give thoughtful answers."
Have you seen the one with Keon Alexander last week? He was fantastic and had quite some smart comments on Marco's psyche.
@@R4Y2k He was a revelation!
Wes is really great at this format.
Wow! Cara Gee looks and feels so extremely different in the show.
Tells me what a great actress she is!
And that voice of Shohreh Aghdashloo. Amazing!
Shohreh, Wes, and Cara were all amazing.
I love what Wes says about Cara's performance being "undeniable." As an audience member I can second that, I'm still a little shocked when she speaks in interviews and she doesn't sound like a belter 😄
There must be a season 7! It's by far the greatest show with the best cast!
I could watch this show for another 5 years.
My favourite SciFi series and Cast in the last 20 years. The worst thing is that the season/series ends next week! Amazon please pick up the final 3 books and give it the budget it needs!
This is how you do an aftershow. I love all of these people.
Hard to really put any of the actors and characters above one or the other, so it's not to put any of the actors down, but Cara Gee & her Camina Drummer to me is the absolute G of the show. Even more impressive when looking at how different Cara is from Camina.
LOVE Cara Gee. I’d watch a whole spin off series just on Drummer.
Amazing Episode! I especially loved the outfit that Shohreh Aghdashloo wore as she walked to meet Cara. So stylishly badass!!
I don't normally care much about outfits or not as much as in this season, but wow her outfits and the jewellery
I LOVE The Expanse!!! I love the characters, story and actors so much, just genius. This is one of those rare gem of shows which is just utter perfection in every aspect, one of those shows that will be watched again and again and be loved more each time. This is undoubtedly one of the greatest series ever made and I certainly hope it continues the story and universe in the near future but to all those who have been and are involved in it right now thank you so much for your passion, time, love, tireless efforts and extraordinary talent you have brought to this incredible series. Thank you.😎😁👍❤
Yeah Cara Gee just be showin off at this point. Hahah ;) And Shohreh too . They both blow me away constantly. All characters are just above and beyond but those 2 always impress me the most.
These two ladies are the stars of the show, and for me, the show revolves around them.
I've watched this episode 6 times now. There are so many wonderful moments in this episode. Chrissie (I love that name) tells Holden, "you must be the most naive person I've ever met". Bobby pounding on the table, 'gimme some of that' and convincing Amos to return to the ship. Drummer, stoic when talking to Michio and Josep and finally breaking down with Naomi, telling her that everyone in her family is dead or gone. As Cara Gee noted, Drummer seemed incapable of compromising and she finally did. I did not think she would even talk to Chrissie... And finally the admission from Tadeo that he set the charges that killed his brother. The look of horror on Philips's face and the tears in his eyes, as he realizes Marco has killed belters is momentous. And the walk of Chrissie going to meet Drummer, flanked by a security team, and Drummer by herself was absolutely riveting. These are truly game-changing moments. Wonderful episode!
What a great series. Loved season 6 and the ending! Please season 7 come on!!
Thank you all so much, this was a treat to watch - my three favourite characters' actors and one of the writers of the best science fiction show I have seen in all of my 51 years.
This was such an amazing segment. They all seem like such great people. Shohreh Aghdashloo was legendary, but I have to say Cara Gee was hands down the best actor on the show. There were two scenes Cara did in particular which blew me away. That one episode where she gives a powerful speech to the crew and the most recent episode's discussion with Naomi (S6E5). Cara Gee RULES.
Isn’t it so insanely incredible how Shorheh is absolutely passionate and invested in Avasarala. It’s just so endearing and awesome to see.
I've actually never watched Amy interviews with the actress before but avasarala is my favourite character and now I'm really enjoying the actress herself too.
This is NOT the end! The queen has spoken.
Shohreh and Cara gave such powerful performances. It was a privilege to bear witness to this wonderful show.
I love Shohreh aghadashloo , her character is the best acting ive seen in well hell my entire life. cant wait till next friday ugh.
Was smiling continuously throughout this. Thanks guys for pouring your souls into creating such a masterpiece show.
At about the 26:00 mark Cara starts talking about the cast diversity. It really hit me (surprised me). I spent most of my adult life in very diverse environments where at any given time my peers would hail from all corners of the earth and all ethnicities ... which makes me sort of blind to it (except when we held pot luck lunches ... that was the BEST!). What I did notice about the expanse was how strong the female leaders were. So I think the Expanse really put a light on several aspects of diversity, acceptance, and how little gender and ethnicity have to do with your worth and power and ability to contribute. What a great series!
Hi, I noticed the little Easter egg in the expanse, episode 6 at 25:38 they have hicks d and Hudson w on the roll call, which is the names of hicks and Hudson from Aliens .
All the names in the pods are from different sci-fi works 😄 ⬇️ copied from imdb trivia:
During the check-in before the assault there are several homages to other sci-fi works listed on the screen. The names are: Gail Ackbar (Star Wars) Douglas Quaid (Total Recall) David Bowman (2001: Space Odyssey) Commander Shepard (Mass Effect) Duncan Idaho (Dune) Alex Rogan (The Last Starfighter) Jason Nesmith (Galaxy Quest) Edward Buck (Halo: Guardians) Shaenon K. Garrity (Skinhorse and Narbonics) Ellen Ripley (Aliens) Dwayne Hicks (Aliens) Joseph Cooper (Interstellar) John Anderton (Minority Report) Jenette Vasquez (Aliens) William Hudson (Aliens) Rick Deckard (Blade Runner) Jack O'Neil (Stargate) Lucky Starr (Lucky Starr) Louise Banks (Arrival) Kevin Flynn (TRON) Roy Neary (Close Encounters) Johnny Rico (Starship Troopers) Kara Thrace (Battlestar Galactica) Sarah Connor (Terminator) Ryan Stone (Gravity) William Riker (Star Trek)
@@mazeknox yeah I recognise several more when I watched that bit again , but thanks for filling out the ones I didn’t recognise 🙂👍
@@lasarith2 no problem! How good was that last episode though? I was worried the whole season but they delivered. I feel happy and satisfied.
@@mazeknox I felt it was a bit rushed in a few bits, could have done with an extra 2 episodes, but if it’s really is the final season then I’m okay with it .
Yea I feel you. I think its gonna feel better watching a second time now that we know where and how it ends.
I could have done without the scene were Amos is catapulting down to Medina station 🤣 THAT would have been better showing from further away.
It amazing how different Cara is from Drummer, not only the visual of the hair down, brilliant actress. Shohreh presence on screen just demands to be followed.
For some reason this episode seemed so short. I wanted it to last longer!! Wow!! I can't believe how much I enjoy this show and these actors, writers, and all involved. I hope they can do an episode with all of the main characters. And I hope for more . . .
Me too! Couldn't believe it was already over.
I got goosebumps when those two met…..I have watched it over and over. Fantastic performances…
I want to thank everyone involved with this show for such an amazing job well done
The queen has spoken! We need more, this not the end 😭
Been loving expanse since the beginning…as a life time Trekkie I can tell it has been dethroned the expanse is one of the best series ever
Remember who played Admiral Chainsmoker in Star Trek Beyond?
Some of my Favorite characters of all time! ALL TIME!!! I wish the show would never end. Love this show.
My heart aches as this season draws near its close. I will miss you all very much, and I hope Shohreh's prophecy comes true once again! Wes, Drummer's my fav too!
That 25 minute mark discussion is probably the most important post credit TV show discussion about science fiction Ice ever heard.
And every true fan has already been mentally designing Avasaralla's epic season 8 wheelchair throne.
I usually don't comment on CZcams, but for The Expanse i'm glad to make an exception.
This is one of the best moments of the entire show and aftershow. Cara, Wes, Ty and Shohreh together, finally, talking about their outstanding performances and the brilliant writing. The Expanse gave me hope that writing, excellent writing, is not extinct. You, actors, writers, CGI artists and production, you all prove you can make a show that outperforms all the previous sci-fi junk, for TV or big screen, with a bunch of amazing performers, well done and not abused CGI, and an original story that uses characters and ideas maturely, cleverly and wisely.
Cara, you made this grown man cry, loved your outer shell of strength and your evolution.
Shohreh. you're the Queen, the only one, i can't explain how much I loved your character and her "softening" during the seasons.
Wes, you made a grown man pee his pants thinking he will never be as kickass as your character, and as "tender-strong" as you.
Ty, your story is the pillar of every outstanding performance in the show. One of the best story i've ever seen on screen in my entire screen-junkie life.
Thanks for all this years of entertainment. Can't wait to see all of you in future works.
I love these characters so very very much. May there be something more we get with them. Thank you so very much.
"Avasarala wears a gown the way Drummer wears a gun." - Perfect!
Avarsarala is my favorite character, she is an amazing actress. I want to see more of her please 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you so much for everyone involved in this wonderful show. Let the queen's word make it so! I've enjoyed every last minute of these past years. You are all amazing.
I am sad this is the last season :(. These are amazing people, actors and characters. The Expanse is a show that could go on for a lifetime.
such a awesome show! the actors and effects make it one of the best scifi ever!
I had to look up who Cara Gee even played, it's amazing the difference from real life to Drummer. Drummer and Avasarala are some of the best acted characters of anything I've ever seen. Avasarala might be my favorite character, Shohreh's voice and her focus makes the character so badass. The two of them and Wes as Amos always stole the show for me. The three of them are always so intense and serious, amazing acting!
Amos, Drummer and Chrissy are my top 3 characters from the show. Their personalities, the acting, their impact to the story, they're just the best.
This show deserves much more
Best Science Fiction TV Show I have ever seen, and I’m a SciFi junkie. Best acting I have seen in a very long time too. Spin-offs please!
I love you guys. The series means a lot to me. Cant explain in words....I only want to say: Thank you.
The way Ty Franck approaches science fiction, he needs to screenwrite an adaptation of Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Trilogy. Everything he's talking about re: science fiction doing what science fiction is good at, is exactly what that story does so, so well.
My three favorite characters in the show!
Wonderful time watching and listening to you all. Love you! This is not the end!
I love Shohreh's voice... her acting too!
Straight chemistry right there. They share so much friendship and familiarity, it's exactly what the art of acting represents.
I only found out about The Expanse this year, and I finished the entire series in just a few weeks. And OMG how I wanted more! Avasarala is my favorite character, because...POWER!
Shohreh Aghdashloo for me has done an outstanding job with her character. Even as a man don't get me started on her appearances and wardrobe and fierce acting skills. And that voice...
Love this! Love you all! Love Ty & that Guy, to say the least for setting/creating the precedent for what an after show/about show/show about a show can really aspire to be!
So, so luck, we the fans!
Love everything about this show… gutted it’s coming to an end! Happy new year guys x
8:30. Right! When both characters are out of moves by themselves... and the only move left is together going forward. That is impactful.
If only Amazon gave this show the budget it deserves and supports all decisions taken by the producers, and not stand in their way and cut this season to only 6 episodes with so much potential this show can reach... Amazon you don't realize you have a gem... I mean I love this more than The Boys
the space battles seemed a bit odd this season.
@@shaunduquette5992 How so?
@@DontNeedToKnow84 It was like they were circling the ships and moving them really quickly. Seems different from past seasons.
Yeah it feels really rushed. I wish streaming shows had maybe 12 or 15 episodes per season, especially in a show with so much depth to explore like The Expanse.
True, but they also saved the show. No S4-S6 without them. Gotta give them credit.
Thank you for all your fine work. It is storytelling with inner truths and healing relevance. It needs to continue.
These two were the best actors in the series. Love these two
Yes! plz this is not the end!, this universe with these women could go on and on...
a strong crew, one of the best ever, i watch them over and over again...if u want something out of sci fi the expanse is it
I agree this episode was soo good
can't wait to see the last one
Drummer is one of the characters with the most formidable and curious evolution throught the show. I know it has to do with the editors, but also I need to praise the actress who performed her.
I will miss this show so much, I really hope it finds a way to continue
I love how incredibly consequential is everything about that show. Ty seems to be making the actors really confident about their roles. I wouldn't say that the characters are predictable, they are recognizable. You know these guys and you know their motives the same way you know your friends.
love these shows,hope s7 and more,please!