A Riverside walk. The River Mersey Stockport.
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- In this video we go on a short riverside walk down the river Mersey in Stockport just to the south of Manchester. We spot all sorts of caves in the sandstone and tunnels in the riverbank. Remnants of old industry these are fascinating. Possible waterway outlets and tailraces from mills or waterwheels. Industrial weirs and bridges. We also take a quick look at the Stockport Viaduct and its 11 million bricks. This Victorian Industrial landscape requires more investigation.
I've been in those caves back in the 80s. I grew up in Edgeley. You used to be able to access them via a couple of Archways on the road above (Brinksway) but they are bricked up now. There was also a small building, near to where the VW garage is now, you could get into them through there, but I think that has gone too. The caves were used as air raid shelters during the war and there were still some bunk bed frames and smashed up toilets down there back then. If you need to know anything I may be able to help a bit. Although I only went down them once as I remember. We used to call them Maggie's Caves.
Came here to mention those, you can see them on Google Streetview on Brinksway. I've been wanting to know if anyone has done an explore of them for ages.
Yes maggies caves used to go in there 40 years ago. It was a fair size air raid shelter. There was also the ones on underbank opposite the precinct behind the big billboards near the taxi rank. Brings back great memories 👍👍
There's miles of caves that could be accessed along Brinksway and I probably like you spent many an hour as a kid in late 50's early 60's exploying them. The caves you see in the above video we called the 'Seven Sisters' and are all linked together, but they do not lead to the wider system of caves.
Now you are teasing me, I want "Martin Zero" to gain access to the caves. Perhaps he could get some permission or something or get help from other people. I want a video of that posted here on CZcams :-D
I was in them about 8 months ago. Probably the same as they were 40 years ago.
Fascinating.
Ive not commented ever before,
But i must say the subjects you cover,
And the way you present it,
Is some of the best stuff ive seen on y.t or tinternet ever.
(And im a proper boring googler that googles EVERYTHING history, geography, t.v/ film and music)
I love our beautiful town, and all its surroundings,
And knowing i'll never get to fulfil my own missions exploring all the nooks and crannies, then watching your films is the next best thing.
Please continue and keep it going,
I must be just one of perhaps tens of thousands that love it.
Thankyou.
Bob,
Sale.
(Work in mcr t.c where our building drops into the Irwel.
Which is also a fascinating thing)
👍👍👍
Sunday night sorted again I've got your last 3 to binge on tonight, cheers guys
Cheers Phil, Enjoy
Looking forward to the climax of this vid . Thanks Martin mate good Material and thanks for saving my sunday evening. All the best Deano from Hamburg Germany
That viaduct is seriously impressive
I liked the chit-chat. Bright and cheerful and inoffensive. I wonder @ 7:30 - did they build that mill under the arch or did they build the arch over the mill.
Mill 1790, viaduct 1840
More on this subject please. Looks fascinating. Looking forward to next week's surprise!
Ooh can't wait for next week - you all stay safe and well sending regards xx
Hi martin , james and danny. Congratulations on 5 years Martin , so many great adventures and exploration over the north west and great city of manchester. My favourite being the lowry trail but I love them all. Thanks so much .🔴🟡🟢
Just want to thank you Martin. Born and bred South African but half English by descent and it amazes me how drawn I am to the history of England and you bring such a stunning facet to it.
my parallel experience: an australian perspective. Martin Zero always enjoyed. Thank you.
Ha ha, same. I have a UK citizenship from my parents (both English, my dad grew up in the area this channel covers) but was born and live in Canada myself. Looks like we've got the whole commonwealth here getting nostalgic for places not many of us have spent a lot of time. Weird sensation, right?
Great comment 🌼
Great video lads, very interesting things keep them coming Martin.
Don't forget that three rivers (Tame, Goyt and Mersey) join at Stocky ;) Stocky was mostly felt works making hats (IIRC) The term 'Mad as a hatter' comes from working the felt into hats and the chemicals used sending the workers mad. There were a lot of bleaching beds over the river at Heaton Mersey where linen would be bleached. I lived in Stockport (well, Woodley) for a few months and I really liked the town. I miss it. :)
Not entirely true.
It’s actually the Goyt and the Tame which join together to create the Mersey.
The National hat museum is still in Stockport.
@@Jamitay1 You're right of course :) I guess it can still be said that three rivers 'connect' there though, as where the Tame and Goyt end is the birthplace of the Mersey?
It's not a bad place,there are a ton of green spaces to hand..the more North you wander the more it builds up and before you know it your in MANCHESTER *book,hiss's*
Only joking my Manc cousins ,(there's not much of a difference) other than a few miles
@@Gianfranco_69 I love all the history the area has - and the folk are GREAT! :)
@@stationsixtyseven67 spot on.
I just love your blogs Martin I have been following you now for just over two years (got hooked after the trapdoor in the canal) and love the whole way you present and explore and always think about your viewers and what you think they would like to look at you are such a natural. So please keep going believe me you make a lot of people, especially at the moment very happy all around the world.❤️😘🤗 PS Love the hat James FAB!
Yuppers the trapdoor in the canal was my intro to MZ world too. My nephew who works for the CRT says there are many such 'plugholes' throughout the canal systems too
Always so interesting thank you for taking me places l would never get to go love your Videos
Nice little video pal can’t wait for next weeks now, happy birthday for April 🎂 hears to the next 5 years🤞👍
If I can face another 5 Judd 😀
Excellent as always, and James is an excellent addition to Team Zero,Danny too!
Look forward to you going back to this one Martin ! Love the bullseye in the bridge , very interesting And as for the viaduct , 11 million bricks , mind blowing 🤯. What a feat of engineering 🤩🤩🧱👍🏼
Our channel is 3 in April 🥳. Happy birthday!
Martin needs to get a boat and explore further or the river itself
I was born in Cheadle Heath Stockport in 1953 going to the tin bucket also known as the primary school ,spending many times on the embankment by the four lines of the railway passing through Cheadle Heath station,lots of industry in them days,lots of chimneys living on the flight path into Ringway spending sundays at the end of the runway with the planes landing a few yards from where we stood.My dad worked at Birkets and Bostocks makers of Champion bread my uncle worked at Simons, happy days,always been fascinated with the industry of the area even got school photo’s in b and W 42 kids in a class. Love the vlogs you’re doing I’m gradually catching up,keep up the great work you are doing ,best wishes Chris royle
Hi, Chris, I was born in Cheadle Heath in April, 1947, at 1, Eva Road, and also attended The Tin Bucket. I also have vivid childhood memories of the Cheadle Heath railway, plus Brinksway and the River Mersey. There was a dramatic rescue there in July, 1953, when I fell 70 feet down the cliffs into the river.
Thanks for another interesting Sunday evening. Only seven more sleeps til the big one!
Nice one, gents! Some fascinating stuff over the river there. I love the way that mill goes through the arch of that viaduct - I take it that the mill preceeded the viaduct.
I'm liking James' Thunderbirds hat, too. Looking forwards to next week's video. Thank you!
I think the building came first Brian
I think I can handle this now. Really missed these.
Keep up the good work fella and stay safe. Blue Top ftw
How many bricks amazing 😁wow that whole area deserves a minimum of a day especially on the other side 😜
Brilliant little taster for future vlogs. Love your back chat about James “milk”. So much to explore. Look forward to next weeks. Thank you.
Thank you Shirley, slowly teaching James about fresh milk
My mother was from Stockport, we used to go up there a few times a year to visit the relations. I still remember the train carriages just under the surface and all the way across the river not far from the city center. I think that was by the same brick viaduct you showed here. (This was back in the 50's of course, no doubt the carriages have been removed by now). Loads of interesting stuff downstream near an old estate called Gorsey Bank, now demolished. Fascinating kid's playgrounds!
The Mersey goes all the way under the shopping centre. Rumour has it, thieves took a boat under there and managed to get access to the old Woolworths department store through an underground entrance. Not sure how true it is but makes a great story!
It disappears under town a few times ,so that sounds kinda legit
Having the Mersey river running through the middle of the shopping centre would have been an amazing feature, why they built over it is a mystery.
@@desperatemohammedantheworl5833 It’s not a very nice river, it stinks and full of mud! I was born and bred in Stockport! It’s not the cleanest!!☹️
It is true 😂
@@jaro967 nope..it's not an attractive looking river ..I will give you that!🤗
Really enjoyed that thanks Martin. Hope you get to going in the caves. Thanks so much for taking me along. Please stay safe and take care
Thanks very much Linda
The way that building is built under the Viaduct is amazing great Video Martin
Yeah its great isnt it
Weve just got back from walking the dogs down there
They're (caves) the air raid shelters outlets on the opposite bank
Your favourite A Taste of Honey was filmed over the other side across the road at the top of the steps and then along Lark Hill Road near the railings when she comes back from school back to the house they do a bunk from which is also there in the very end block of terraces opposite the green railings
St Marys Church opposite the market hall was also used
Loads to film around Stockport Martin👍
Cheers Bob & Lorraine
I remember them filming that, they blocked off all of Lark Hill Road with high fencing during the shoot..
Ha, that film has my 6yr old uncle Mike running around with his mates at the start!
Sorted! We're rewatching A Taste Of Honey tonight. Yes The NETFLIX series The Stranger filmed location scenes in Stockport. See Slug Line -
EXT. - STOCKPORT MARKET HALL- NIGHT.
Edina Monsoon scuttles towards her parked car.....
(I can't watch Jennifer with a straight face in thrillers, in my head it always turns into a Xmas Special or Ad Fab, always, haha)
Happy Birthday Martin Zero.... always shows the excellent stuff.... and wondrous things.... Historically, coated from one of the earliest societies of Europe. Things and stuff of early people of an Island in Europe. Meaty. Always motivates a kettle boil... Cheers.
Cheers Frank 😀
Nice one Martin, will look forward to you exploring it in more detail Fantastic usual high quality. 😊😊. We wish we could have a big party to celebrate 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🍷🍷🍷
It's all good stuff, thankyou !
Thanks Gareth
Another wonderful video Martin. One day I hope to visit to see the rich history there.
allways good to watch.
Great! Thank you Martin. Please don't leave us, take us around some more.
Great vid. Ive explored Stockport many times as I go to Stockport Beer festival. you should have a look at the air raid shelters once they are open again. Look forward to your follow up video.
Great video. I grew up in Stockport and this brings back some memories. Love the channel so new subscriber,
Love the features scattered along the river bank...
Yeah great arent they
Really looking forward to next week’s video now!
Cheers Rob, lets hope its a good one
Another great video Martin, it would be interesting to trace the route of the Mersey under Merseyway
Brilliant Martin, whetted my appetite.
Think you will get quite a few good videos from this area ( just seen ) Great chit chat and thanks a lot .👍
Good video that Martin,wow five years since you been doing videos don't time fly I think on 10th April should have a live stream talk bout all the videos you've done, you done so very well on all your videos can't wait for next weekends video,long may it continue 👍
Cheers Thomas
Many thanks both. The Stockport viaduct is stunning! Look forward to next week's adventure.
Hi Martin, I from the other side of the hills lol but your videos are entertaining and most enjoyable here's to another 5 years!
Steve
Cheers Steve
I've been to them caves at the top martin. Known as Maggie's caves. That one over the wall looks interesting.
Really enjoy your videos Martin. You really bring history to life. I've only ever been to your neck of woods a couple of times but would love you to do a video of hyde road belle vue speedway then and now. Rich history with likes of Peter Collins and chris Morton. And wasn't there a famous zoo opposite the speedway.
It was Belle Vue Zoological Gardens, there was a buckle in the back gate just wide enough for me and my mate to sneak in, we would creep our way round to the speedway track to watch some of the riders practising. I remember Peter Collins (he had a shop on Hyde Rd at one point) and Chris Morton.
Thanks Martin. looking forward to next Mate, Keep safe 👍😊
Definitely intrigued martin.
Me also David
Teaser trailer - love it and five years of amazing content! My favourite was with Nodrog from Blackpool and the ghost detector meter in the tunnel... laughed so much, and then Pomona Island which was so beautifully filmed and the Medway series which is a story delicately told evoking all sorts of images from the past. Well done Martin I don't think you are burnt out just yet :D
Thanks so much Lulu
Well done on the 5 years Martin and your team.
Looking forward to next video
Hi Martin, If you take the river footpath away from Stockport town centre towards Heaton Mersey/ Didsbury there are remnants of the old Cheshire Lines railway viaduct that once crossed the Mersey. There are large buttresses on both sides of the river. The buttress on the far side appears to have a pathway through it. The viaduct buttress on the path side lies back from the riverside by approx 50 yards so you would need to have a scout around for this one, but it's a tallish structure. There is a path that takes you to the top of this buttress so you can then get an idea of the angle at which it joins the structure on the far side. This was all part of the Heaton Mersey East junction where the Midland Lines seemed to run along with and across the Cheshire Lines. If you go slightly inland from the river at this point you can see by the lie of the land how the various old lines ran on top of embankments etc. There are pictures on the interweb of old steam trains crossing the viaduct if you are interested. Thanks for your interesting videos, it's good to see you filming in the Stockport area.
Secret passage ways ✌️❗ Such architecture 👍🏻❗
Very Good Video.
Thak you From Blue.
Always enjoyable thank you
Thank you Terry
That was a juicy taster of what might be to come . I really think you wont be able to leave this one alone
Martin. Thanks for the look at anyway. Keep up the good work Mate Thanks
Gonna be a challenge Graham
Martin, have you ever thought about doing a video about drain covers? There was a company called Needhams in Stockport who made all sorts of cast irons grids, manhole and so on. Very often wherever I go I see the word 'Stockport' and it reminds me of home!
Good idea
A friend of mine worked at Needhams forge for a summer as a student in the early 70's. After that whenever we saw one, and not just in the UK, he would nod towards it and say proudly "I probably cast that." A likely story!
Brinskway caves - irish workers lived in those while building the viaduct. Also used as air raid shelters during WW2. Fascinating
Fascinating. Love all the caves and holes in the walls, such a shame they aren't accessible 😢 Looking forward to next week's video, the look on James's face 😂😂😂 Congrats on your 5 year CZcams anniversary! 🎈🎉
A good bit of forethought with the designers of the viaduct, they designed it to take four lanes of motorway to pass through it many years later (LOL) Look forward to this one, take care.
That viaduct was finished in 1840 (though it’s been widened and repaired since then) and before we know it it’ll be two centuries old. Apart from a few Spanish-era buildings, there’s almost nothing older than that here in Florida unless you count shell middens...
come visit us in New England - tons of 1700s architecture all over and some even 1600s.
@@tremensdelirious Yes, I spend a month in England every year and visit all your amazing historic sights - love them!
You must go to the Beautiful St Augustine. Like everyone I have always just gone through Jacksonville on I95. The Fort was built in 1672. I live in Eccles and am only a short bus ride from Stockport. There are great Victorian Pubs there too .
I was standing next to that jetty a few days ago. I often cycle down there and grew up not far away. I love the remains of the old railway bridges about half a mile downstream.
I need to go and take a look at them Aidan
@@MartinZero Yes, they remind me a bit of ancient temples in Thailand, overgrown ruins, remnants of bygone glory!
I was really lucky to go under Stockport with work the Mersey runs in cluverts stone and concrete bridges under the centre. I remember a non discriped steel door behind it was stairs down to the mersey inside the system
Apparently, there are also 11 black bricks for each of the construction workers who died building the viaduct. Another fact, that view of The Crown pub beneath an arch was used in the 2001 census advert.
I think thats really good the Black bricks Martin
Always enjoy your vlogs. 👍😀
Thanks Phil
Awesome video.. Really do hope you guys follow this up. So much history to research love u guys stay safe
Thank you. I hope so
If you look under the arches of the viaduct you can see the Join where it was made wider...only found that out a few years ago and I've lived in Stockport for over 45 years.
James with a MMU hoodie! I have done research in the Archives there and loved the place.
Oh yeah, I never even noticed, he did go to Uni
Very interesting future adventures.
Exciting location Martin where you have been, that was clearly visible. 👍🏻💪🏻
I wonder if and how you want to get to the other side, I think maybe by boat.
Anyway, I really appreciate your commitment and motivation for me to find a wonderfully exciting and historic place location every time, you know that. Martin your are sweet, and you explain everything in a fun and spontaneous way.
I hope I keep seeing you, love Roos 🙋🏻♀️🤗👍🏻🥳🥰
Beautiful as always martin ❤💙
Thank you Natalie
Great to see you in the Stockport area, there's so much to see in the area to keep you busy making videos for weeks. The viaduct arches closest to Stockport railway station was used in one of your favorite films , A taste of honey as was the church in the market place. Can't wait for next weeks video.
Oh yes , I believe so. Taste of Honey 👍🏼
Looks to be some very interesting goodies... down by the riverside. Tantalizing tasty video Martin. Hope you get back there soon.
Like the video very much .Take care
very interesting Martin. That bit of machinery Dan spotted looked vaguely like some sort of 'windlass' or 'gate valve' ?
Judging by where stuff is hanging in the branches that river gets quite high now and again .
The pic was hilarious . He didnt look like his heart was entirely into the venture Martin .
This winter just gone it rose a good 7 feet above its current height
Martin, you need to walk the other way towards Parrswood, there was a bleach works and old railway structures. Going to the other side of Stockport was Tiviot Dale Station, off Lancashire Hill and where Tesco's is. Good hunting.
Interesting video as always lads 👍👌
Thank you jay
Wow another river explore Martin. I loved your medlock serious and this looks good. Maybe you meed to get the kayaks out.
The river flows onward through the southern part of Didsbury and Northenden. It was here, in about 1956, where I slipped off the muddy bank into the river at the Northenden Golf Course. I was on my bike at the time, so that ended up in the water too. I was on my own that day, so it was a Herculean task to scramble back onto dry-ish land with the bike.
I can't recall if my mam said anything about my muddy, dripping wet state on returning home, I certainly didn't get the safety lecture I was expecting.
I live in stockport and it is mind blowing inside the actual caves Thanks for the upload!
Nice to see you in my neck of the woods thanks Martin
Hello Martin, firstly just want to say how much I enjoy your videos. I'm very much into history and old industry myself. I'm a stockport lad but I now live in Hollingworth, just up the road from the River Etherow. I've got a fantastic book of stockport aerial photos, that date from the 1920s to now. I have a picture of where you were stood next to brinksway weir. Their is a rather large mill that would have been where you were stood. Let me know if you want any of these pictures. Kind regards Ryan Hazlewood.
Great! I've been hoping you'll do some videos around Stockport. Can't wait for the next one, keep up the interesting vids 👍
Hopefully more
@@MartinZero the expression 'Mad as a Hatter' has a connection with Stockport. The echoes of Mills along the Mersey you were looking at were 'Hat' makers. The nick name of Stockpot County FC is 'The Hatters'
Pub quiz question from the past...which football ground is the closest to the River Mersey? Answer...Stockport County. Thought provoking content once again, Martin.🇯🇪
Blimey! Where do you start? So many interesting holes; so little time!! Can't wait to see the results of your explorations here. Used to work in Stockport back in the dark ages!!
I'm a Stocky lad. I'm from Stockport. And the amount of scousers I've wound up about the Mersey flowing thru Stockport ...we had a song at football. Something about throwing shopping trolleys in the Mersey and scousers fishing them out to use as prams. You had to be there obviously
Thats quite funny 😆
@@MartinZero some kids at my school claimed to have floated to Liverpool on lorry inner tubes ... probably took 2days 🤣
Hi Martin great video again look forward to see what you have been doing have a look at stockport memories on CZcams Think you will find it interesting 👍 The Woolpack pub was just above where you are standing
Among all the other incredible things that viaduct is really something else. Amazing.
Yeah the Viaduct is amazing
That looks a supreme area to investigate Martin and methnks that waders and head torches needed!-can’t wait till next week now....
Can't wait to see if and when you get over on the other side. Maybe another kayak Expedition
your videos are great the history u show is very entertaining to watch
i do metaldetecting myself im from belgium and finding history is so fun
keep making movies dont stop:)
Thank you very much
That viaduct really depresses me because it reminds me of the pre-covid commute to the office.
Yeah a commute to an office will do that.
The bridge near bus station you was filming on near end of video is brand new. There was a row of houses (Astley street) from Heaton lane to the river and my nanna lived in the end one. In 1975 my nannas back garden and outside toilet collapsed into the river. There was a picture in the Stockport express at the time.
Oh wow, did it overhang the river Lee
Yes it was last house on right facing metal works
That culvert for the River Mersey that starts at Wellington St looks big, it seems it would take a small boat to explore it. Looks to come out of the culvert just before River Tame
Just made coffee and ready to watch......
Cheers Mike
I am so excited about this spot! Can't wait for you to take us down into those caves! I know you'll find a way in! Regarding you feeling it tough to get a weekly upload ... after 5 years, you gotta know it's okay to take a break, or slow your roll on the uploads. I doubt you would lose any subs.
If there are lots of mills, you can expect some of those to be tailrace outlets.
The curved weir seves 2 purposes, one is for strength (like how a dam is) the other is for length, you sometimes ee weirs with a lot more curve (like one at bath) seach for bath curved weir, or with multiple curves (labyrinth weir) where more surface area is in use as the river gets higher
Where has all that industry gone? Same here in states. All went to overseas. We haven’t learned our lesson about not keeping production in our countries. I love the history you bring forth. Thanks for the video
Thanks you Marie
I kept hearing Gerry and The Pacemakers singing about the Mersey ferry while you were filming!
Funny, so did I 😁
I am looking forward to next weeks video already, hopefully I can get out myself during this coming summer.
Need to all get together for the 10th April to celebrate 5 years 🥃