Darkel - GTA's Most Disturbing Cut Character

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  • Darkel - GTA's Most Disturbing Cut Character
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  • @mattguy1773
    @mattguy1773 Před 2 lety +946

    The cut character looks like some dude you would find in a dark alleyway

    • @latewizard301
      @latewizard301 Před 2 lety +53

      Looks like 60% of the guys at my local pub.

    • @shrimpfry8657
      @shrimpfry8657 Před 2 lety +18

      exactly what they were going for

    • @sw8467
      @sw8467 Před 2 lety +48

      Or in that underground tunnel where the Molotov’s are. Theres like 10 of them dudes😂

    • @ajaxmaxbitch
      @ajaxmaxbitch Před 2 lety +15

      @@sw8467 isn't that where he was originally gonna be?

    • @sw8467
      @sw8467 Před 2 lety +5

      @@ajaxmaxbitch yeah i got ahead of myself my bad lol

  • @bigblue344
    @bigblue344 Před 2 lety +3370

    Let me get this right, players eliminating innocents NPC's is ok and is 80% of the fun in GTA but having a mission to do it is "too dark"?

    • @vietnamsemonky4082
      @vietnamsemonky4082 Před 2 lety

      Sadly some politicians of the time would have hammered gta even harder than they already tried to, guarantee there would have been more fake outrage, especially after 9/11

    • @tafua_a
      @tafua_a Před 2 lety +753

      I guess allowing the players to do something is different from actually telling them to do it.

    • @Vesperfelis
      @Vesperfelis Před 2 lety +557

      I think it’s more of the fact that yes: everyone in GTA kills innocent people, but the game never forces you to, so the “guilt” (I don’t know what other word to use) lies on the player and not Rockstar. But if there is a mission that specifically rewards the player for killing innocent people, then it’s sort of on Rockstar.

    • @nabilbudiman271
      @nabilbudiman271 Před 2 lety +312

      Darkel's mission was definitely too disturbing at that time. GTA III was released months after 9/11 and set in Liberty City, which based on NYC, and people still suffered after 9/11

    • @Aj-me8mo
      @Aj-me8mo Před 2 lety +1

      @@Vesperfelis it's a damn videogame tho. I would happily kill children and innocent people in videogames and wouldn't bat an eye because it's a videogame and not real!

  • @marcst3199
    @marcst3199 Před 2 lety +466

    Darkel = average Player after quicksaving

    • @anotherrandomguy8871
      @anotherrandomguy8871 Před rokem +20

      I alway think it’s kinda funny how we always see messed up characters in these games and we always have a “wtf? That’s sick” type of reaction, and then go on to murder a bunch of innocent NPCs in the game. It’s not a big deal since it’s a game, but it’s just funny.

    • @flaskanbottle9250
      @flaskanbottle9250 Před rokem

      Can you quicksave in gta3?

    • @justsealy
      @justsealy Před rokem +3

      @@flaskanbottle9250 no. There is a autosave in the mobile and definitive editon tho but it isnt the same as quicksaving. You can only save in safehouses in gta 3 (also for other 3d games)

  • @LamarINH
    @LamarINH Před 2 lety +2216

    This character certainly isn’t disturbing as the rumors make it.

    • @ATTENTIONseekinggaming
      @ATTENTIONseekinggaming Před 2 lety +21

      he could have done disgusting with something

    • @dark_hood7
      @dark_hood7 Před 2 lety +204

      there's a much more disturbing character in GTA IV, Eddie Low, and he made it into the final game

    • @jakel5801
      @jakel5801 Před 2 lety +117

      Eddie Low was the most fucked up NPC I’ve ever encountered

    • @Chonkems
      @Chonkems Před 2 lety +45

      In a world where games like SWAT 4: TSS and Ready Or Not exist, it's not really as big a deal as people make it out to be. SWAT 4 had a mission with several dead kids buried in a room. RoN is literally the most realistic SWAT game in years.

    • @coreycasciano3255
      @coreycasciano3255 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Chonkems eh that’s not that bad in my opinion, but Swat 4 and RON look like a ton of fun

  • @IDHLEB
    @IDHLEB Před 2 lety +3601

    As with the most cases of lost media, the real thing is probably way less disturbing and dramatic than people make it out to be. Especially CZcamsrs, they love being overdramatic.

    • @dreamsprayanimation
      @dreamsprayanimation Před 2 lety +221

      Drama gets clicks

    • @sandwichpony8071
      @sandwichpony8071 Před 2 lety +389

      I like lost media youtubers because they always make the video so unsettling and dark like the topic is a disturbing mystery unearthed when in reality it’s just a missing episode of spongebob lol

    • @rymle
      @rymle Před 2 lety +8

      Lmfao yeah

    • @NaniJapaneseForWhat
      @NaniJapaneseForWhat Před 2 lety +28

      SPONGEBOB BETRAYED US

    • @ghostpeyton
      @ghostpeyton Před 2 lety +81

      This is 100% true, he was just a hobo mission giver no different from Salvatore or Toni cipriani

  • @jamesjjameson1632
    @jamesjjameson1632 Před 2 lety +694

    He looks like the main villain in a 90's drug PSA

  • @puffpuffpassmako
    @puffpuffpassmako Před 2 lety +841

    Tbh I thought Darkel was going to be a child predator you unknowingly did missions for. Considering a good chunk of his missions involve kids and school buildings, I automatically thought he was a predator that lies to Claude into doing creepy stuff for him. Such as stealing an ice cream truck and delivering it to him for reasons he won't elaborate. Asking you to destroy a bus full of kids cause some of them are his victims that he fears may rat him out. Then in the final Darkel mission, Claude will catch on and rig Darkels ice cream truck to explode since he's so disgusted by him. Darkel will get in and be be killed by the truck exploding

    • @phobosanomaly5383
      @phobosanomaly5383 Před 2 lety +196

      That would probably have been really good way to redeem Claude for the past missions

    • @brandendierker5873
      @brandendierker5873 Před 2 lety +38

      That would be awesome

    • @Ghostfacekillah29
      @Ghostfacekillah29 Před 2 lety +61

      @@astolfothelyfer369 🤨📸

    • @malletUsergaming
      @malletUsergaming Před rokem +22

      @@astolfothelyfer369 you really live up to your name

    • @mickmundy6687
      @mickmundy6687 Před rokem

      Those Tramps Were A Reference To the Terrorists Who Flew Into The World Trade Center, The Molotov Cocktails Are Probably Representing The 1993 Bombing, If My Theory Is True Then The Love Media Building Originally Had 2 Towers As Rockstar Employees Once Said That They ‘Removed Any Buildings That Looked Like The World Trade Center’
      Childs Play And That Mission When You Had To Blow Up A High School Building Were Probably Going To Be Reported As Terrorist Attacks In The Liberty Tree

  • @abulbatron5397
    @abulbatron5397 Před 2 lety +303

    This character would fit perfectly into the setting of the Manhunt

    • @TheDrugFreeThrasher
      @TheDrugFreeThrasher Před 2 lety +40

      He definitely reminds me of the mission where you have to lead the tramp around and hide him in the dark. Graveyard shift I think it’s called

    • @Roderickthegray
      @Roderickthegray Před 2 lety +10

      My thoughts exactly

    • @FriedmannKaiser
      @FriedmannKaiser Před 2 lety +11

      @@TheDrugFreeThrasher Actually it's Drunk Driving.

    • @dannytorres8070
      @dannytorres8070 Před rokem +14

      What if darkel is that homeless guy you got to lead in manhunt 1?

    • @Cloaker86
      @Cloaker86 Před 11 měsíci +1

      tbh he wouldve made sense in GTASA

  • @GreshOfficialYT
    @GreshOfficialYT Před 2 lety +120

    it just hit me, they described him as “dark and evil” put the two words together “darkel”

    • @poweroffriendship2.0
      @poweroffriendship2.0 Před 11 měsíci +25

      Plus, Darkel is named after the actual word "darkle" which means "to become clouded or gloomy".

    • @BasedMigz
      @BasedMigz Před měsícem +2

      ⁠@@poweroffriendship2.0which rhymes with “sparkle”, the opposite

    • @SolidGeddoe
      @SolidGeddoe Před 11 dny

      @@BasedMigz which rhymes with Mirkwood,Lord of the rings is behind this

  • @jarvindriftwood
    @jarvindriftwood Před 2 lety +509

    The bus mission doesn't sound all that out of place in theory. In GTA 2 there was "Hot Dog Homicide!" a mission where you take a bus and pick up pedestrians (replaced with Hare Krishna on Playstation), then drop them off at a meat processing plant. They're ground into hot dogs and then you drive the hot dog truck to a diner.
    Also there's still some debate over the ties between GTA 2 and 3 since in 2 you play as Claude Speed and in 3 you play as Claude. Rockstar said in the one interview where they talked about Darkel that 3's Claude may or may not have the last name Speed.
    All that said, I don't buy them having kids or a high school in any of those missions. The game would've been banned from most stores and some countries had that been in it. Especially after Columbine.

    • @southofheck
      @southofheck Před 2 lety +40

      I’m pretty sure GTA 3 was intended to have school busses driving around alongside the regular roster of cars, so I don’t think it’s THAT far fetched. It would make sense why they cut it, considering not even Manhunt tried to tackle mass child homicide.

    • @jarlboof
      @jarlboof Před 2 lety +25

      @@starless267 yeah the marty chonks mission, surprised noone talks about those where you actually turn people that we have no idea they were innocent or not (probably innocent) for money but freak out about a bum telling you to blow up an ice cream truck on some people, something that i probably done as a kid

    • @BNK2442
      @BNK2442 Před 2 lety +9

      @@starless267 I always kill the debt collector and take his shoot gun after I end the last mission. It is as great way to have a shoot gun very earlier on and very cheap, as all those missions, if you remove their context, are basicaly 'taxi' missions.

    • @Cloaker86
      @Cloaker86 Před 11 měsíci

      they legit replaced it with that on PlayStation??? thats fucking hillarious

    • @michaelhunt6920
      @michaelhunt6920 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@Cloaker86something the og commenter forgot. The PC version has them completely nude.

  • @koolandblue
    @koolandblue Před 2 lety +339

    I remember discussions on online forums back in 2002 or so with topics about Darkel and how you could supposedly unlock him. He was alleged to be an antisocial homeless guy that generally hated people and society. He would have you do things like load up a bus full of people then walk away and blow it up. He would then pay you on weapons rather than money. I must have spent hours looking for him back in those days. Fun times.

  • @magnaillusion6085
    @magnaillusion6085 Před 2 lety +65

    Would have been hilarious if the last Darkel mission was actual charity work.

  • @swazaaa
    @swazaaa Před 2 lety +35

    dude who came up with Darkel probably the same dude who pitched Manhunt. what a savage, great game too.

  • @ToonCrate
    @ToonCrate Před 2 lety +46

    Between Darkel's cut from GTA 3 and Scarecrow's cut from Manhunt, it's weird that Rockstar keeps creating violent vagrant characters only to drop them later in development

    • @VitZ9
      @VitZ9 Před 2 lety +8

      I remember back in the day when Manhunt came out, and wondering why they cut Scarecrow. He seemed like a great boss character, and he could have been used mid-game, where the game gets a bit repetitive. I'd have preferred that to guiding the tramp, but I guess they wanted an easier guide/follow mission before the reporters one in the end game.
      That said, I like the theory online that the tramp you have to guide around is Scarecrow, but if so, it was a wasted opportunity to not have him turn on you.
      My personal theory is it seemed like there was a point during the games design, that R* were going to have a boss for every gang, which they eventually dropped, and Scarecrow was a casualty of that. Also, based on being an ex leader of the Smileys, he might have been replaced by Ramirez. Maybe R* figured it was more satisfying to get revenge on Rameriz, as he is the one messing with you through the game and moving you from locations. Or maybe Scarecrow didn't really fit with the direction the narrative takes at the point of the game? He could have gone in the level with reporter perhaps, but maybe that made the level too difficult with the cops?
      But at the end of the day, I guess we will never know. 😞

    • @malletUsergaming
      @malletUsergaming Před rokem +1

      @@VitZ9 yes it's sad that we will never know

  • @XJustSomerandomGuyX
    @XJustSomerandomGuyX Před 2 lety +204

    Damn i remember back when i was in 6th grade i would watch videos about darkel lol. Cant believe its been that long.

  • @seriousnorbo3838
    @seriousnorbo3838 Před 2 lety +232

    "GTA 3 has some darker elements"
    Or you could say... DARKEL elements

    • @blyat8832
      @blyat8832 Před 2 lety +11

      damn bro you got the whole squad laughing

    • @kidfromtownwithnoname3595
      @kidfromtownwithnoname3595 Před 2 lety +13

      😐👉🚪

    • @mysteryman3963
      @mysteryman3963 Před 2 lety +8

      Out.

    • @maxb4210
      @maxb4210 Před 2 lety +1

      Teeheeheheehe

    • @exttiint
      @exttiint Před 2 lety

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😐

  • @bezolsmate
    @bezolsmate Před rokem +28

    The missions were cut, but the model for Darkel himself is still active. He’s actually UNDER the alleyway with all the tramps out of bounds. Like Rockstar just moved him out of bounds right before the game came out.

  • @MultiRman1
    @MultiRman1 Před 2 lety +200

    I actually can see why this would be cut from a dev perspective. That Rockstar quote was right. tonally it's VERY out of place. Claude may be a psycho but he's not a terrorist. Also they could've been afraid it would make liking Claude harder. when a player plays an optional rampage mission that's not mentioned or canon to the story or runs over a group of civilians that's the player doing that not the protagonist. But when you're given a story mission from an NPC that requires you to do it then it's the progtaganist doing that. And if the protaganist is doing some especially heinous shit then his likeability may suffer.

    • @errorcluckstv
      @errorcluckstv Před 2 lety +18

      I think it also has to do with the 9/11 tragedy as GTA3 was released in 2001. It would make sense to scrap a character whose missions involve bombs or crashing planes into towers

    • @bigdick4090ti
      @bigdick4090ti Před 2 lety +26

      @@errorcluckstv Yeah, it's moreso due to 9/11 rather than likability. They cut stuff because of that attack.

    • @Zmeeed01
      @Zmeeed01 Před 2 lety +14

      Considering that Claude was made mute to make it easier for players to manifest themselves as him, this makes sense

    • @rxcolee248
      @rxcolee248 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Zmeeed01 that’s not why claude didn’t have a voice actor

    • @TheKillerEmcee
      @TheKillerEmcee Před 2 lety +5

      To like or dislike a character is totally personal choice. Rockstar doesn't have much or really any say in regards to that matter

  • @zach8483
    @zach8483 Před 2 lety +80

    I think people are forgetting that all the player actions outside of the main missions are simply not canon, if we were to take into consideration all the senseless murder you can do in any of the GTA games it would make many elements in it's story nonsensical and pointless.
    Making that missing canon would have required some level of story and real consequences outside of a 2 minute wanted level.

  • @Amahankage2004
    @Amahankage2004 Před 2 lety +703

    Darkel was always so interesting, i still remember when i used to watch tons of videos be it theories, tops etc of GTA in like 2013 and he always had his little spot mostly when it came to videos about oddities of the games.
    Anyways great video, i quickly became a fan of your content due to your iceberg, keep the good work your videos are at almost the tier of nexpo, blameitonjorge etc.

    • @tylerwilliams33
      @tylerwilliams33 Před 2 lety +9

      What a fun time in GTA myths and legends, it was like '08 again.

    • @Amahankage2004
      @Amahankage2004 Před 2 lety +5

      @@tylerwilliams33 Yeah, for me it was later but im from south america so pretty much any sort of content always comes late so like 2012-14 still the nostalgia hits hard, GTA mostly SA was great for youtube.

    • @tylerwilliams33
      @tylerwilliams33 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Amahankage2004 I've always loved that SA was so popular down there so many awesome Spanish mods and content creators from over the years from there that keep that community breathing and constantly innovating along side the modern stuff like the GTA v RP servers that are popular today, that stuff pretty much started the myth community we all know and love, very nostalgic

    • @Amahankage2004
      @Amahankage2004 Před 2 lety +3

      @@tylerwilliams33 Gotta agree, i dont know why but SA became extremely popular and even to this day they still make content, some of the older youtubers left but there is always new guys coming in.
      Expanding on the reason i do have a guess, the PS2 was EXTREMELY popular in latin america like almost any kid had a PS2 because it was cheap and super easy to hack so anyone could have tons of pirated games since they were like cheap asf im talking like cents in the US (back then in the 2010's) and GTA was obviously popular so almost everyone had a copy.

    • @tylerwilliams33
      @tylerwilliams33 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Amahankage2004 truly nostalgic times, good to see it hasn't gone away.

  • @PapaCopperpot
    @PapaCopperpot Před 2 lety +16

    “GTA’s most disturbing cut character is Darkel, gta’s most disturbing cut character”

  • @darkel1269
    @darkel1269 Před 2 lety +133

    Finally some recognition

    • @shetto
      @shetto Před 2 lety +32

      the man, the myth, the legend!

    • @bearman2232
      @bearman2232 Před 2 lety +9

      @@shetto dude.ain't a myth he's right there

  • @JR7noir
    @JR7noir Před 5 měsíci +11

    Disturbing is Claude saying ok to these Darkel's quests.

  • @BarbozoTheClown
    @BarbozoTheClown Před 2 lety +49

    Damn GTA 3 was about to be a pure terrorist simulator, if it wasnt for 9/11 a lot more controversy would've probably still been made possibly ending the series here

    • @Jws20
      @Jws20 Před 2 lety +12

      Rockstar said barely anything was changed, the game was 1% different. The only things that were mentioned by the devs were small things like the police cars went from blue to black and changing a planes flight pattern to fly further away from city buildings. The biggest change was making it so planes at the airport couldn’t be blown up

    • @EonServoXA
      @EonServoXA Před 2 lety +1

      @@Jws20 They said that they removed some missions that were related to terrorism

    • @Jws20
      @Jws20 Před 2 lety +5

      @@EonServoXA no, they said they removed a mission that had the line terrorist in it because it was either easier than replacing the line or it was too obvious what the people in the mission may have been. The other thing they did was replace the caption, “spanked up suicide bombers” to “spanked up madmen”

  • @TheBestVirginian
    @TheBestVirginian Před 2 lety +58

    I think the best way to try and figure out what these missions could've been is to look at other missions, voice lines, and references to see if there are any that refer to the homeless problem or bootlegging in GTA 3. For a game with as much in it as GTA 3 if they just removed Darkel's missions there should still be some bits and pieces left behind in other parts of the game

  • @RileyDobbs
    @RileyDobbs Před rokem +13

    Not only that Darkel is the most disturbing cut character, but also the most interesting cut character

  • @TBRACKET
    @TBRACKET Před 2 lety +65

    A School Bus, you mean a Federal Monitoring Truck?
    Kids on a Bus, you mean Federal Midget agents?

    • @why-nv5ms
      @why-nv5ms Před 2 lety

      hey dude could u link me that banner u have

    • @BNK2442
      @BNK2442 Před 2 lety +6

      I am pretty sure they didn't even made any model for children in GTA because they knew the hot potato this would end up being.

  • @dositless9554
    @dositless9554 Před 2 lety +58

    Been waiting on this ever since you mentioned it in the iceberg lol.

  • @mrs-chief
    @mrs-chief Před 2 lety +101

    I'mma say this as lovingly as I can, as a game developer on a big, famous FPS series with many controversial moments, the audience needs to stop reaching so much for these things. He's just a cut character. It happens 10000000000 times a day. It isn't a dark conspiracy, it isn't "haunted", or etc. It's just cut content.

    • @engihere5434
      @engihere5434 Před 2 lety +5

      Lol we know

    • @shastealyomeal
      @shastealyomeal Před 2 lety +8

      Can you tell us the franchise you're involved in

    • @TheKillerEmcee
      @TheKillerEmcee Před 2 lety +5

      @@engihere5434 well some don't. Don't speak for everyone

    • @pyroparagon8945
      @pyroparagon8945 Před 2 lety +1

      What franchise?

    • @weepingblade
      @weepingblade Před 2 lety +2

      @@shastealyomeal Look on their channel they have a Playlist called " Call Of Duty Music to make Call Of Duty to." Yup totally a battlefield dev (jk)

  • @planescaped
    @planescaped Před 2 lety +17

    "There may be more to it than Rockstar is telling us"
    It wouldn't surprise me that he was cut because he was too much manhunt for GTA. And I don't believe the PR guy doing the Q&A for a moment about 9/11 not factoring into them removing content. People might have forgotten now, but after it happened, the world became psychotically puritanical for a time. There was massive outrage over Lord of the Rings The Two Towers and demand that they change the name. -__-
    Heck, it also wouldn't surprise me if Darkel led to the creation of Manhunt eventually. Dark drimy murder with colorful gangs and a lot of hobo aesthetics?

  • @TheFoxEssence
    @TheFoxEssence Před rokem +40

    I’ve always loved the lore of the classic GTA universe.
    It was also a time when things were a lot more ambitious and tongue and cheek.
    The darkness of the classic games is truly why I love them. It’s a huge vibe.

  • @werlder
    @werlder Před 2 lety +18

    7:06 “all of these alleged missions were fabricated” and yet here’s my 12 minute speculation implying otherwise.

  • @SeanStrife
    @SeanStrife Před rokem +13

    I have a very vivid memory of playing the game as a kid and bumping into the vagrants and... sure enough, I heard a line from one of them referencing Darkel. So yeah, I'm pretty sure we can confirm they were going to be Darkel's gang before Darkel got cut.

  • @schwups5580
    @schwups5580 Před 2 lety +17

    intro: there was a really dark character in the grand theft auto series. a really dark and disturbing character. so dark and disturbing he was removed from the grand theft auto series. this is the story of this disturbing character from the grand theft auto series. the chracter that was so scary, grim, evil, dark, disturbing character that was so scary it was removed from the grand theft auto series.

  • @AonGamerChannel
    @AonGamerChannel Před 2 lety +58

    When Rockstar said that Darkel missions didn't fit into the storyline then i think there were trying to say that his missions were optional as well as, in GTA 3 Every character follows a introduction in the storyline, like this:
    8-Ball meets Claude in Give Me Liberty
    8-Ball introduces Claude to Luigi Gotterelli
    Luigi introduces Claude to Misty
    Misty introduces Claude to Joey
    Joey introduces Claude to Toni Cipriani and Salvatore Leone
    Salvatore Leone introduces Claude to Maria
    Then Maria is the last person who introduces Claude to Asuka in Portland
    The Question is that who would've introduced Darkel to Claude in GTA 3❓
    There has to be someone who would've introduced Darkel to Claude in GTA 3 if he was really in the game.

    • @AeridesEntertainment
      @AeridesEntertainment Před 2 lety +18

      Nobody introduced Claude to El Burro except El Burro himself, iirc.

    • @AonGamerChannel
      @AonGamerChannel Před 2 lety +18

      @@AeridesEntertainment I think that El Burro missions were originally given to Darkel but later they got replaced.
      My Theory: Also, Have you ever noticed that the mission ''Messing With The Man'' serve no big purpose in Vice City Storyline. Mitch Baker just advices Tommy to kill everyone in Vice City.
      Messing With The Man mission objective is to fill chaos meter by killing npc's in limited amount of time, that's the same thing which Darkel wanted from Claude in GTA 3 if he would've added in GTA 3.

    • @TheBlockerNator
      @TheBlockerNator Před 2 lety +5

      It could've been a pager message like the payphone bosses. Or an easter egg, like Marty Chonks.

    • @AonGamerChannel
      @AonGamerChannel Před 2 lety +4

      @@TheBlockerNator In the final version, Marty Chonks Mission Location is not visible on the GTA 3 Map and this thing was not explained by Rockstar Games in their Q@A in 2011 in regards to GTA 3 10th Anniversary.

    • @Zmeeed01
      @Zmeeed01 Před 2 lety +2

      Now I wonder, what purpose do El Burro, King Courtney, Kenji's missions and D-Ice even serve in the final plot? Do they exist because Rockstar couldn't implement all of their ideas into the main storyline so they created optional characters who would give you missions based on these ideas so that they don't go to waste?

  • @DetectiveJones
    @DetectiveJones Před 2 lety +10

    I always love learning about things that were cut from a game especially if theres a story or reason behind it rather than just didnt have time to finish it or something wasnt working

  • @comettamer
    @comettamer Před 2 lety +15

    Love how they managed to tie Boomshine into the game in such a crazy way.

    • @Zmeeed01
      @Zmeeed01 Před 2 lety +13

      And that was before Boomshine was canonically implemented later in Vice City. They didn't forget.

    • @comettamer
      @comettamer Před 2 lety +2

      @@Zmeeed01 No they didnt

  • @woopoganntnt7379
    @woopoganntnt7379 Před 7 měsíci +4

    can we agree how dramatic sourcebrew is? he’s always like this in every fucking video

  • @EmmettXIV
    @EmmettXIV Před 9 měsíci +5

    Darkel's character lives on through all the payphone missions and rampages. Marty Chonks, El Burro, King Courtney, and D-Ice. These missions were more disturbing than the main story missions. Kingdom Come by King Courtney is a really messed up mission. The spanked up suicidal madmen want you dead and keep coming out of those vans. It could be difficult if you don't know what you're doing. Marty Chonks and his meat factory was creepy too.

  • @Vrunge90
    @Vrunge90 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Hey man, loving the use of 'Graveyard Shift' from the Manhunt OST. I love both games and I think the OST of Manhunt fits the gritty and gloomy vibe of GTA III's rendition of Liberty City perfectly. Loving your channel!

  • @cnsmooth
    @cnsmooth Před 2 lety +34

    There was nothing really disturbing about this character despite the spooky music used in the video. Everything suggested his mission would be are totally in line with the GTA universe. If they though he was too disturbing then they would have also changed about 90 per cent of the game.

  • @saltsalted1528
    @saltsalted1528 Před 2 lety +35

    My mans really put "scary" music and a deep voice for a video of GTA character that isn't even disturbing this shit is funny as hell.

  • @averykevin47
    @averykevin47 Před 2 lety +8

    They're actually were a couple reasons as to why the release date was pushed back for GTA III back in 2001 and it did have a lot to do with the 9/11 terrorist attacks. For one they had the change the color of the police cars because at the time they resembled how the NYPD please cars looked. And for that Rockstar has claimed that day did change the color of them from Blue to Black in the game to where they didn't resemble the NYPD police cars. Also GTA III was the very first Grand theft Auto game to feature planes taking off and landing and so they had to change up the flight patterns for the planes to make it look like they couldn't fly anywhere near the tall buildings. Also allegedly there were two skyscrapers in the games that did resemble the twin towers but I don't know how true that is but apparently they were removed after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Now as it pertains to school buses to my knowledge the only time the school buses appeared in the Grand theft Auto series we're only in the very first game and then Rockstar has claimed that the reason why school buses were removed because they didn't like the idea of putting children in danger. And so for that the only time you really do see school buses in any GTA game are in junkyard portions where they're non-accessible and unusable for that matter. And police officers some of them originally had mustaches, the American release of Grand theft Auto III the box art cover had a different design and the reason why it was changed was because they deemed it as two graphic. And apparently originally players were given the option to actually blow up airplanes with a rocket launcher and that was another thing that was removed from the game because of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. And also as it pertains to the kill frenzy rampage missions you can still earn points even if you shoot pedestrians instead of gang members. I think that was a bug that was left in the game that Rockstar never fixed.

    • @BangEmUp1994
      @BangEmUp1994 Před rokem +3

      I would love to see this game in original form and Uncut Collector's edition for all 4 games gta 1-4

  • @christopher.saint.christopher

    I played GTA 3 when it came out waaaay back when, but I don't think I'd ever heard of Darkel until within the past year. I think the little snippets of info we have are fascinating in their many possible implications.

  • @latewizard301
    @latewizard301 Před 2 lety +6

    I've been looking forward to this.

  • @allan-ls9zo
    @allan-ls9zo Před 2 lety +22

    man i love manhunt's ost, can't wait for more rockstar videos from you bro

  • @rlds654
    @rlds654 Před 2 lety +15

    Grand Theft Auto III was my first GTA game. And after all this years it is still my favorite GTA. It always feels so dark, melancholic, creepy and I would even say mythical. It differs from other games in the series. And I believe it absolutely still has some unsolved secrets that, one day, will be found.
    I'm so glad that there are people who still make a content about GTA III and I always love to see it.

    • @memetarion6191
      @memetarion6191 Před 2 lety

      Other than dipping your toes in two inches of water would start killing you

    • @TheDaeFluent
      @TheDaeFluent Před 2 lety +1

      GTA 4 was the darkest/creepiest to me

    • @Ethan-ee8rv
      @Ethan-ee8rv Před 2 lety +2

      @@TheDaeFluent Oh yeah, remember that Easter egg where you could go into an abandoned apartment and find a bloody pillow with a bullet hole and rap music playing in the background? Creeped me out as a kid

  • @oodie6284
    @oodie6284 Před 2 lety +7

    I haven't heard about Darkel since SomeOrdinaryGamers first brought it up. What a blast from the past.

  • @conversationtosaurusrex
    @conversationtosaurusrex Před 2 lety +38

    Compared to some of the characters we got, he really isn't all that dark. I mean Niko Bellic told a story of how he witnessed 50 children, all sitting neatly in a row, against a church wall, each with their throats cut and their hands chopped off. That by itself, makes Niko's backstory one of, if not thee darkest GTA Character backstory. Don't get me started on Eddie Low from GTA IV who was a sadistic serial killer who had no remorse for his actions. Or even Trevor Philips from GTA V.
    Thats the thing about Trevor, people don't realize how much of a horrible person Trevor is in the game. It is stated he would mutilate bodies, rape people, even kidnap them and give them off to a bunch of cannibals; shown to have manipulated Ron and Wade in order to make them entirely dependent on Trevor. Honestly its like Rockstar grabbed the worst qualities of all the GTA Protagonists and Antagonists and put them all together into Trevor.

    • @gvd72
      @gvd72 Před 2 lety +1

      You never see those things though. In this game you (supposedly) would’ve performed those actions yourself.
      Imagine if there were missions where you killed children as Niko in the way he witnessed or if you played Trevor and raped someone. It’s bad taste.

    • @BioshockDrill
      @BioshockDrill Před rokem +1

      @@gvd72 good way to put it.

    • @Gamo_to_spiti_sou
      @Gamo_to_spiti_sou Před 5 měsíci +2

      When was it ever stated that Trevor rapes people? The altruistic cult missions are most likely non canon and even then they literally backstab Trevor. It pisses me off how people view Trevor as this sadistic psychopath who kills people in his spare time for the fun times. He kills people who piss him off or try to screw him over. Let me get one thing straight he ain't no psychopath, sure he is insane. However, psychopaths are people who care about nobody other than themselves. Trevor loves certain people such as Patricia Madrazo, Michael's family, Lamar, Franklin, yes he does abuse Floyd but he still cares about him, he cares enough about Ron and Wade (Correct me if I'm wrong but Ron does mention that his married life was an absolute joke), he even bonds with Michael even after what he did to him and Brad. So if anything he's more of a sociopath who doesn't give a shit about the rules. To sum up, Trevor may push you around but he's definitely not going to betray you. He will only kill you if you try to screw him over or if you piss him off such as calling him a motherfucker or making fun of his Canadian accent.

    • @AsymmetricalCrimes
      @AsymmetricalCrimes Před 3 měsíci

      There's a difference between a dark backstory and actually doing those actions yourself.

  • @jasonhansen8035
    @jasonhansen8035 Před 2 lety +4

    but i mean a crazy a hobo that control a gang of other hobos do sound kinda cool

  • @williambertels8257
    @williambertels8257 Před 2 lety +16

    Bro I just discovered your content I love it

  • @dingusbingus3558
    @dingusbingus3558 Před 2 lety +9

    darkel sounds like the name of an evil clone of urkel

  • @johnpatrickadem6294
    @johnpatrickadem6294 Před 2 lety +5

    if darkel is the most "disturbing" character, then blowing up a dozen people with a bazooka doesn't look that bad _[killing them that way causes dismemberment of body parts]_
    also in fastman92 limit adjuster for san andreas at line 492 _(might be wrong),_ there's a mention of "darkel" there, like *'CDarkel::RegisteredKills'* found at it's ini file

  • @Marinerthekod
    @Marinerthekod Před 2 lety +4

    Santa has changed.

  • @nullbyt
    @nullbyt Před 2 lety +5

    Long awaited :)

  • @DaviXRemixer
    @DaviXRemixer Před rokem +2

    I began to watch this video with a bit of scepticism since I knew about most of the Darkel things before for years and I thought this would be just another video oversensationalising the role of that cut caracther. But you still caught my attention with that Liberty Tree article which mentions "Boomshine". Although it's a seemingly minor thing compared to the others it's in my opinion one of the most important clues that R* actually had in mind a much bigger role for those weird hobos than most people think. Though I did knew about the Liberty Tree site, it never caught my attention before that it mentions "Boomshine". You see in general gameplay the first time we hear about "Boomshine" is in Vice City released a year after III in Phil Cassidy's misssions, but there indirectly it plays a quite important role as it is revealed that Phil lost his arm due to messing with that. So even though R* always tried to downplay on Darkels original role in the game, it seems like they thought about the lore of the crazy tramps and their weird poisonous homemade cocktails early and long enough that they brought it back in one way or another in VC.

  • @MsDboyy
    @MsDboyy Před 2 lety +9

    Oh shit you made this video sooner than I thought you would lol 😅💯

  • @_MaxNeon_
    @_MaxNeon_ Před rokem +3

    Even if Claude sticks to killing bad guys, he's still evil. Doing missions to kill random innocent civilians would make it worse.

  • @jzdb2044
    @jzdb2044 Před 2 lety +10

    What graphics mods are you using on your GTA 3? It looks very sharp with the dynamic shadows.

    • @footballbasketball182hi5
      @footballbasketball182hi5 Před 2 lety +2

      It might be a mod called skygfx but idk

    • @roidwizard2679
      @roidwizard2679 Před 2 lety +4

      It looks to me like it's the remaster trilogy edition

    • @Zmeeed01
      @Zmeeed01 Před 2 lety +2

      The free camera movement, bits of the pause menu, and general smoothness remind me of the "Reverse Engineered" mod for GTA 3

    • @appratows6795
      @appratows6795 Před 2 lety

      @@roidwizard2679 no that shits shit

    • @LSDPband
      @LSDPband Před 2 lety

      @@roidwizard2679 You're a funny guy.

  • @Desu.mp3
    @Desu.mp3 Před 2 lety +2

    I instantly liked the video when I heard the manhunt music. Very good video!

  • @yima3628
    @yima3628 Před 2 lety +2

    Love your narration man ❤👍

  • @user5325
    @user5325 Před rokem +3

    If rockstar actually add characters like this one and missions like this in story the game would be really interesting

  • @nikobello101
    @nikobello101 Před 2 lety

    I love this video there's nothing else on CZcams right now that has a cool feel to it keep making more vids like this man

    • @jaycuthbert245
      @jaycuthbert245 Před rokem

      It's all bollocks and overreacting and far fetched speculation. Not cool at all. It's like me uploading a video and speculating about something that wasn't real. Or me making up some bulls##t story to keep you entertained. Don't believe what everyone tells You, dude

    • @nikobello101
      @nikobello101 Před rokem

      @@jaycuthbert245 bruh there's multiple videos plus darkal is on the GTA wiki wat r u being so superstitious about
      Besides darkal isn't the only scary npc GTASA has a couple of scary guys on there too

  • @iennefaLsh
    @iennefaLsh Před 2 lety +3

    That thumbnail makes him look rather funny, if anything.

  • @dankcaillou
    @dankcaillou Před 2 lety +3

    Another good video source

  • @masterseal0418
    @masterseal0418 Před 2 lety +6

    There's still more scrapped gaming content to discuss in separate videos, so keep at it!

  • @AonGamerChannel
    @AonGamerChannel Před 2 lety +6

    Darkel = Dark Hell

  • @dylives7667
    @dylives7667 Před 2 lety +2

    It was fate that Rockstar removing Darkel and his gang of psychos.
    As those missions would had already added more fuel to the fire, because of the game being released in 2001.
    The government was already hellbent on taking down Rockstar. And that character alone could had put an end to the company as his missions were the very definition of domestic terrorism.

  • @Journey_Awaits
    @Journey_Awaits Před 5 měsíci +1

    This character has been so mythologised over 20 years that without some dedicated research it’s almost impossible to figure out what trivia about this character on the internet is true aside from that he existed. It’s like a modern Pythagoras.

  • @ATTENTIONseekinggaming
    @ATTENTIONseekinggaming Před 2 lety +4

    the legacy of manhunt continues....

  • @OrigenalDarkMew
    @OrigenalDarkMew Před 2 lety +15

    I remember learning about this, imagine the negative press GTA would get today for doing something like this. Honestly i wouldn't care, they thrive off of controversy

  • @buff9267
    @buff9267 Před 2 lety +1

    You know a video is serious when it has a vhs filter

  • @MarshallMathersthe7th
    @MarshallMathersthe7th Před rokem +1

    I like to imagine that atleast some of the Darkel missions where changed into what we now know as rampages in the game.

  • @leoorduna2199
    @leoorduna2199 Před 5 měsíci +1

    With times changing in all, I think it's safe to reintroduce Darkel into the next GTA game set before or after Part 6.

  • @pugachevskobra5636
    @pugachevskobra5636 Před rokem +13

    I have never played GTA III ever but it’s kinda funny how the newspaper article on the tramps in Liberty City ties in so well with the urban legend of Darkel. In the urban legend the character of Darkel is accused of orchestrating insane levels of violence and terrorism, so much so that Rockstar was forced to cut his character completely from the release version and all associated missions were removed as well. This is nearly word for word the picture the newspaper tries to paint of the homeless in Liberty City; violent murderous maniacs who can’t be reasoned with whatsoever. But reality tells us that this urban legend is a massive hoax mostly; completely imaginary and at odds with the actual character of Darkel, and the same goes for the homeless people who inhabit Liberty City. A ton of sensationalism and nothingness concocted by a headline grabbing clout chasing newspaper; aka the same exact phenomenon behind the legend of Darkel.

    • @pugachevskobra5636
      @pugachevskobra5636 Před rokem +2

      Sorry for the paragraph; I just found this really cool. Rockstar didn’t get enough credit for their world building and story development for their first few titles unlike the next gen releases of RDR1, RDR2, GTA IV and V. So now I’m forced to fork over more money for Liberty City and San Andreas, which I’ve also never played much at all. Even though I had swore off funding their murder of RDR2 and RDO…. 😂

  • @Davidwest28
    @Davidwest28 Před 2 lety

    Bout to binge this channel boi. This us content

  • @HikikomoriDev
    @HikikomoriDev Před 2 lety +2

    Was the original Darkel models redone in the Definite edition and left hidden or completely cut?

  • @NhBleker
    @NhBleker Před 2 lety +3

    I wonder if Darkle was the true mastermind behind 'No Russian'

  • @mofuhh
    @mofuhh Před 2 lety

    Just started the video and I already loooove the Manhunt background music.

  • @attackofthecopyrightbots

    says a lot that everyone thought it was just "kill kids"

  • @EuanWhitehead
    @EuanWhitehead Před 2 lety +4

    When you realise there are people irl who are worse than this supposed character.

  • @miguelpasamano4995
    @miguelpasamano4995 Před rokem +1

    RockStar's denials of the deletions of certain missions should be taken with a grain of salt specially after they were caught lying about never intending for Claude to talk.

  • @lamptown3748
    @lamptown3748 Před 2 lety

    Was waiting for this one

  • @James.chalmers
    @James.chalmers Před rokem +5

    Rockstars excuse is clearly fake, not as good or interesting as the rest of the game? The characters in this game are all pretty lame except for Salvatore, Catalina and Donald love, darkole would have been a good character in the game, also 9/11 definitely changed the game that’s why the love disappearance mission is in the game and you can’t fly the dodo probably

  • @INCAnitysy
    @INCAnitysy Před 2 lety +2

    his character is..........so dark

  • @gavinremillard535
    @gavinremillard535 Před 2 lety

    live your videos man just subbed keep up the good work 👍🏼

  • @jeremyhall2727
    @jeremyhall2727 Před 4 měsíci

    Oh i remembered those rumors. Man, that's a blast from the past

  • @radicra
    @radicra Před 2 lety +1

    you can do the blowing up ice cream truck thing at literally any other part of the game lol, not sure why because it's associated with this guy it's now disturbing

  • @VazPlayz
    @VazPlayz Před rokem +1

    4:22 , now it makes sense because there was a misson "loves disappearance" (which donald love disappears) which shows a box and then gives us 45,000$.

    • @Endgame707
      @Endgame707 Před rokem +1

      Darkel is Portuguese 🇵🇹

  • @Pure-ck9vk
    @Pure-ck9vk Před 2 lety

    Darkel looks like the guy in a dark alley who is trying to sell watches that he hides in his jacket

  • @WoodyRampage
    @WoodyRampage Před 5 měsíci

    I need to watch more of your videos because this was great and darkel is a very interesting story

  • @Swordslinger-hb1ns
    @Swordslinger-hb1ns Před 4 měsíci +1

    No doubt the horrific events of September 11, 2001 played a critical role in Darkel getting cut completely considering the mission he gives Claude involve evil terrorism including bombing Francis International Airport. Though it’s interesting to think what could have been in the game if 9/11 never happened……

  • @bruhford3954
    @bruhford3954 Před 2 lety +1

    Darkel looks like he should be a gta villian

  • @yima3628
    @yima3628 Před 2 lety +1

    No wonder why there were 4 bums in a tunnel holding molotovs, I thought they were helding a "drunk ritual" holding beer bottles until I ran over them, it was molotov and not beers.

  • @vipahxxx7640
    @vipahxxx7640 Před 2 lety

    He looks like somebody who drives a windowless van with the words "FREE CANDY" written on the side.

  • @DuncanMaKockiner
    @DuncanMaKockiner Před 2 lety +1

    A little off topic but what mods do you use for your gta 3 in this video

  • @sandorbence2067
    @sandorbence2067 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I miss the dark, creepy side of early GTAs, elements that would fit more inot Manhunt games. Especially GTA 3 had a really unique atmosphere, you could feel that something is wrong with th whole city. And then there was the Kingdom Come mission burned into my mind wen I played it as a kid. It would be nice to see some of this in GTA VI.

  • @pinotbologna
    @pinotbologna Před 4 měsíci

    8:35 this never stood out to me as unexplored content as a kid because it seemed perfectly reasonable for hobos to be in dark tunnels holding molotovs

  • @sekke8601
    @sekke8601 Před 4 měsíci

    I like the manhunt style VHS tape filter that’s in the video.

  • @user-vb1bs8le3g
    @user-vb1bs8le3g Před 9 měsíci +1

    Bill Fiores voice lines are lost media