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  • Freespin is a demo that runs on a Commodore 1541 floppy drive. More information at www.quiss.org/freespin/. It generates sound/music by vibrating the drive's head, and video by switching the two serial bus lines between ground and +5V. A single 100 Ω resistor is used to connect the video. A C64 is used to boot the demo, but can be disconnected once it's running.
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  • @JimLeonard
    @JimLeonard Před 3 lety +819

    30 years of demoscene and I never thought I'd see this. You, sir, win the 2021 demoscene.

    • @Sempoo
      @Sempoo Před 3 lety +2

      This one is a gem^^, but you may be also interested in hearing C=64 in binaural stereo:
      czcams.com/video/DjqopH__O14/video.html

    • @pygamebooker
      @pygamebooker Před 3 lety

      yes, indeed!

    • @commodork
      @commodork Před 3 lety +6

      Yeah, running a demo on a /peripheral/ takes the cake.

    •  Před 3 lety +2

      @@Sempoo woah, now this is creepy to see my video linked by the man who created the mix. Hats of sir, this mix is really good by the way, I hope you don't mind I've uploaded it to CZcams.

    • @skweek256
      @skweek256 Před 3 lety +1

      @@commodork Especially with the the trills, it's not just an example of how it could be done it's an example of how to do it well.

  • @32Bits
    @32Bits Před 3 lety +183

    Floppotron: I can play music!
    1541: Hold my beer.

    • @tiges
      @tiges Před 3 lety +4

      programs that play music on a stepper motor have been known for a long time and they destroy this motor.

    • @32Bits
      @32Bits Před 3 lety +8

      @@tiges that's the point we have seen stepper motor music but never have you seen a floppy drive make music and video this is a whole new category of demo I call it FDAV or Floppy Drive Audio and Video Demo and it's. it's Amazing :)

    • @ralfjung4156
      @ralfjung4156 Před 15 dny

      @@tiges My 1541 is 34 years old. I play'd so much songs on my 1541 and it runs fine.

  • @c64skate
    @c64skate Před 3 lety +221

    - Quiss doesn't use 1541 as the second CPU. He uses it as the only CPU!!!
    Quiss is Chuck Norris of the C64 scene. :)

    • @dominickyritsis8095
      @dominickyritsis8095 Před 3 lety +3

      I'd say MacGyver is more fitting!

    • @ulrichkalber9039
      @ulrichkalber9039 Před 3 lety +4

      Chuck Norris replays "Walker Texas Ranger" from that floppy drive
      In Full HD Color HDR

    • @wobdq248
      @wobdq248 Před 3 lety

      indeed

    • @GreatNorthWeb
      @GreatNorthWeb Před 3 lety +5

      When Chuck Norris writes functions they never have arguments.
      Chuck Norris got a computer virus and it died.
      Chuck Norris' computer does not have an escape key. Nothing escapes Chuck Norris.

    • @danielmantione
      @danielmantione Před 3 lety +2

      ... CPU *and* GPU.

  • @lorenzodigaetano3591
    @lorenzodigaetano3591 Před 3 lety +39

    I've been following the demoscene for 30 years, this is the most incredible and unthinkable thing I've ever seen. You're a fucking genius!

  • @VitorMartinsAugusto
    @VitorMartinsAugusto Před 3 lety +10

    Started watching the video and when Matthias cut the cables, I thought it was going to be some dumb April fools video.
    Somehow I kept on watching and my brain froze. I had to rewatch the video twice to believe what my eyes just saw: the coolest C64 related demo ever!

  • @graghead6622
    @graghead6622 Před 3 lety +7

    I feel strong compassion for the 1541 stepper motor! 😂
    Great work! 👍🏻

  • @senilyDeluxe
    @senilyDeluxe Před 3 lety +89

    This floppy drive has better graphics than the RCA Studio II.

  • @The8BitGuy
    @The8BitGuy Před 3 lety +420

    That's bad ass!

    • @Murrlin27
      @Murrlin27 Před 3 lety +3

      Hello there!

    • @joeynrg
      @joeynrg Před 3 lety +2

      Agreed! Technical Wizardry and great demo.

    • @iLoxy42
      @iLoxy42 Před 3 lety +1

      I agree

    • @Dannzenful
      @Dannzenful Před 3 lety +2

      Oh what a surprise to find u here :)

    • @grokness
      @grokness Před 3 lety +1

      That is *exactly* what I just said to myself right before I read your comment. 🤩

  • @CarstenMeyer
    @CarstenMeyer Před 3 lety +13

    One of the most impressive C64 ... oh, got confused ... 1541 demos I have ever seen! What a timing nightmare! Hats off!

  • @markusesslinger
    @markusesslinger Před 3 lety +18

    Completely useless, distracted a smart man from productive work and probably burnt many hours of precious time...
    This is art in its pure form ❤️

  • @GadgetUK164
    @GadgetUK164 Před 3 lety +26

    This wins all demo scene competitions - ever!

  • @cy-kl5hg
    @cy-kl5hg Před 3 lety +9

    What can I say... this is a breakthrough in the demo scene. Matthias, you've gained my deep respect. Only nerds would know...

  • @TheGuruMeditation
    @TheGuruMeditation Před 3 lety +44

    Amazing work. This is one of the coolest and most imaginative demos I have ever seen. It blows my mind how folks like Matthias are coming up with new and creative ways to use their machines in 2021. Just when you thought you have seen everything, you realize that you haven't. -- AmigaBill

  • @jacksonpb
    @jacksonpb Před 3 lety +101

    This is absolutely mindfuck. Of all demos I have ever seen, and I have seen over a thousand, this one takes the cake!

  • @gothikia
    @gothikia Před 3 lety +14

    Just give this dude all the awards. This is the coolest thing I've seen in 20 years.

  • @AxeMan808
    @AxeMan808 Před 3 lety +38

    OH GOD I CAN FEEL MY 1541s IN MY CLOSET GETTING MORE MISALIGNED AS THIS GOES ON.

  • @kristofferfrisk4077
    @kristofferfrisk4077 Před 3 lety +77

    This was a jawdropper.. Never seen anything like it. Blew my mind.

  • @arnetrautmann9783
    @arnetrautmann9783 Před 3 lety +5

    The weird thing: some of the FX are actually neat. I mean: not just neat by "we do this on the floppy" standards, but neat-neat.

  • @mnemonic_de
    @mnemonic_de Před 3 lety +8

    Perfect example of out of the box thinking. We need more people like this!

    • @alinayossimouse
      @alinayossimouse Před 2 lety +1

      the thinking was entirely inside the box. just not the one we expected

  • @mariogrande8907
    @mariogrande8907 Před 3 lety +10

    In this world, a C64 asks his 1541 for a file, elaborates it and projects it on his monitor. In another world, a 1541, after receiving the LOAD from a C64, loads a driver file from itself, processes itself and takes possession of the C64 monitor. Welcome to Odyssey 2001 where everything can became reality.

  • @paulkocyla1343
    @paulkocyla1343 Před 3 lety +38

    Best hack ever! That´s the pure essence of demoscene :)

  • @randomexcessmemories4452
    @randomexcessmemories4452 Před 2 lety +12

    Genuinely one of the most incredible things I've ever seen. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how you figured this out. I hope we can see even more like this in the future, perhaps on a 1581!

  • @merman1974
    @merman1974 Před 3 lety +4

    A work of genius, the effects are so clear and the music is awesome. State of the art.

  • @RoelandLigtvoet
    @RoelandLigtvoet Před 3 lety +5

    This is amazing, wow!
    I remember a demo back in the day that would let the 1541 play a song, with the stepper motor doing the work too.
    This certainly is next level though, with both video and audio.
    On the older 1541 model the sound would be softer and with bit more bass.

  • @Novous
    @Novous Před 3 lety +4

    WOW. I was JUST talking about this with a friend as a possibility two weeks ago. You did all the hard work! GREAT JOB

  • @Butterscotch_96
    @Butterscotch_96 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I know almost nothing about the C64, but I already knew that the floppy drive is kind of like its own computer. But cutting up a serial cable to get a video signal is insane!

  • @Ewigkind
    @Ewigkind Před 3 lety +1

    Das ist echt abgefahren! Kann mich selbst noch an die "Floppy" Musik auf meinem eigenen C=64 erinnern. Aber DAS ist wirklich next Level ... ca 36 Jahre später. Wow

  • @JoseRojasA
    @JoseRojasA Před 3 lety +2

    Moonshot achieved! Mad respect.
    I confess that a dormant neurological path was expecting a pixelated ,b&w, picture of Samantha Fox to appear under the parallax.

  • @DavisRaySickmonJr
    @DavisRaySickmonJr Před 3 lety +4

    I'll be honest: for just a bit, I was trying to decide if this was real, or something faked up to look insanely cool. After reading the blog, yep, it's real. I honestly had never thought of leveraging the processor in the floppy in such an insane way. Well done!

  • @thetinkerist
    @thetinkerist Před rokem +1

    best c64 demo without a c64.

  • @GoWithAndy-cp8tz
    @GoWithAndy-cp8tz Před 2 měsíci

    this is amazingly good demo! Best demo on C64 I've ever seen. Cycling is huge stuff and drive music is smashing! Cheers from Poland!

  • @LCR
    @LCR Před 3 lety +4

    Wow, this is truly impressive! You get as much sound out of that floppy drive as others are getting out of the SID chip. Incredible achievement.

  • @RafaelOchrymowicz
    @RafaelOchrymowicz Před 3 lety +2

    Kudos Matthias - this is the most amazing wild demo I've seen, you're a real whizz.
    Fantastic :-) in every way

  • @superandroidtron
    @superandroidtron Před 3 lety +24

    Absolutely incredible work, easily the best wild platform demo of the last 5 years!

  • @danielcelion
    @danielcelion Před 3 lety +9

    This might be the best demo of all time! Totally unexpected awesomeness!!! Mind blown!!!

  • @jacofwudsn
    @jacofwudsn Před 3 lety +8

    The idea is awesome, the live presentation is great, and technique of streaming the pixels from the drive is just ace - as is are the pre-recorded screens. Hats off, and congrats for the already safe Meteoriks Award :-)

  • @FishGuy876
    @FishGuy876 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow! Thats amazing! I had no idea the 1541 could do any of that! Many congratulations on a great demo!

  • @retrobitstv
    @retrobitstv Před 3 lety +9

    This makes me unreasonably happy. Amazing work!

  • @chrisholland5138
    @chrisholland5138 Před 3 lety +64

    "No (not many) floppy drives were harmed during the making of this prod."

    • @MatthiasKramm
      @MatthiasKramm  Před 3 lety +45

      I only went through three. I still maintain that they died of natural causes.

    • @NULUSIOS
      @NULUSIOS Před 3 lety +4

      @@MatthiasKramm would be interesting to know what killed them.

    • @MatthiasKramm
      @MatthiasKramm  Před 3 lety +5

      @@NULUSIOS One had a dead 6522. Probably because of a bad power adapter.

    • @michiellombaers3198
      @michiellombaers3198 Před 3 lety +2

      But many cables were ...
      Those poor cables ...

    • @NULUSIOS
      @NULUSIOS Před 3 lety +1

      @@michiellombaers3198 they are just cables - probably user-made anyway

  • @philippschneidenbach
    @philippschneidenbach Před 3 lety

    30 year long follower here, since we met in Munich. Acces Denied, Radio Napalm. Wow. Keep it up, you're a legend already!

  • @andrewgr144
    @andrewgr144 Před 3 lety +2

    My first computer was a C64 with a 1541 disk drive (though it didn't look nearly as sleek and modern as the one shown here). Lots and lots of good memories. This demo is spectacular in its own right, but for me it has the added benefit of evoking some nostalgia. Well done.

  • @ulaB
    @ulaB Před 3 lety +14

    After watching this, my brain was the C64 in this setup.

  • @pkvp7337
    @pkvp7337 Před 3 lety +26

    Reflex is back! The legends!
    The chosen platform was a bit unexpected though :D

  • @MichaelAnttila
    @MichaelAnttila Před 3 lety +2

    Incredible. This is the demoscene distilled down into its pure essence.

  • @plgDavid
    @plgDavid Před 3 lety +45

    That is one serious "Racing the beam" example. Props!

    • @Wingnut353
      @Wingnut353 Před 3 lety +6

      Indeed, as an aside, 48k of ram could be installed in a non stock 1541.

  • @TrapBonzai
    @TrapBonzai Před 3 lety +1

    Crazy cool ... and what a return to the scene :) Can't wait to see more from you guys.

  • @lecapitaine1017
    @lecapitaine1017 Před 3 lety +54

    This is next level even for the demoscene. Here's hoping someone can come up with a device to connect the two cables non-destructively.

    • @pgiblox
      @pgiblox Před 3 lety +58

      Oh course that’s simple. I bet he used a similar adapter to develop the demo. Cutting the wires is all theatrics

    • @politesociety
      @politesociety Před 3 lety +11

      It's the most badass flex I've ever seen.

  • @tony359
    @tony359 Před rokem

    One of my viewer mentioned this video - I was comparing a C64 drive to the Apple 2 drive, to highlight how simple the Apple 2's drives were. This is just amazing!

  • @Dankyman100
    @Dankyman100 Před rokem

    Still can't belive i got to meet you in person. Thanks for putting up with me at X!

  • @eurosat7
    @eurosat7 Před 3 lety

    Nach all den Jahren schaffst du es mich nochmal komplett zu überraschen! Respekt! :D

  • @IBoughtItMyself
    @IBoughtItMyself Před 3 lety +1

    Stunning. Just stunning. Thank you, Matthias, you supreme badass.

  • @prezgaming7903
    @prezgaming7903 Před 3 lety +1

    OMG that's amazing !! I've been waiting for this for a long time :D Hurrah !!

  • @julianhaupt6607
    @julianhaupt6607 Před 3 lety +2

    So good, congratulations for this masterpiece

  • @Valery0p5
    @Valery0p5 Před 3 lety +24

    0:37 I had a stroke when you started cutting that cable, I hope it's not an original one.
    Aside from that the demo is awesome 🤯

    • @commodork
      @commodork Před 3 lety +4

      Judging by the wires' size, looks like a modern reproduction.

    • @Bakamoichigei
      @Bakamoichigei Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, looks like a modern repro. Vintage cables would've been much thicker, and the plugs were a little different. Plus I imagine the thick-ass PVC insulation would be much harder to cut through after ~35 years.

    • @FalconFour
      @FalconFour Před 2 lety

      I felt physically ill when I saw that knife going for that cable. BUILD AN ADAPTER, MY DUDE. DIN plugs aren't uncommon! Oh god, oh god why, why... :o

  • @ApplyBacon2Boobs
    @ApplyBacon2Boobs Před 3 lety +1

    You sir, have genuinely amazed me.

  • @JCrashB
    @JCrashB Před 3 lety +1

    Unfassbar. Das hat fr-08: .the .product von Platz 1 meiner persönlichen Top 10 verdrängt. Hochachtung und Glückwunsch!

  • @CWild-Music
    @CWild-Music Před 2 lety

    Just incredible. Awesomeness is in a single/simple floppy drive device !! That rocks !

  • @TimoBirnschein
    @TimoBirnschein Před 3 lety

    For a good two minutes I forgot the sound is coming from the drive’s stepper motor. Dang man! This was amazing!

  • @goofy2909
    @goofy2909 Před 3 lety +1

    Mind-blowing! Absolutely thrilled to see this, thanks for sharing it! Amazing, really... 👍

  • @Grympel
    @Grympel Před 3 lety +5

    Just mind boggling demo! Amazing to see how creatively driving demo creations to a new level and probably a new category! Will there soon be a "Peripherals demos" in every compo?
    Hat off for Refex!

  • @GelberBuntstift
    @GelberBuntstift Před 3 lety

    Wow! Just Wow! It's running only on the 1541. Fantastic work.

  • @joewenz
    @joewenz Před 2 lety +1

    Respekt! Da muss man aber viel von der Hardware verstehen. Und da bin ich schon stolz drauf, mein W&T Interface wieder zum Laufen zu bekommen ;-)

  • @talideon
    @talideon Před 3 lety +11

    It hurt me a bit to see those cables being chopped up and spliced together, but that was amazing!

    • @commodork
      @commodork Před 2 měsíci

      Those cables are modern. 1980s cables would have used heavier gauge wire and much thicker shielding.

  • @CRTWorlds
    @CRTWorlds Před 3 lety +2

    Such a great C64 demo... without the C64. Haha. Brilliant!

  • @Fleshwhip
    @Fleshwhip Před 2 lety

    This is a totally insane idea, I'm out of words this is incredible:D

  • @MartinPaoloni
    @MartinPaoloni Před 3 lety +1

    Are you doing freaking arpeggios with the floppy drive?! HOW?!?!
    Simply amazing! This reminds me of LFT's microcontroller demos.

  • @KriscrossnewsDe
    @KriscrossnewsDe Před 3 lety

    This is some serious next level shit! 😮 Besides the fact, that this is some awesome work, I have so many questions and I think that the easiest one is about the arpeggios coming from the floppy.
    Congratulations for this demo! Chapeau.

  • @TechTinkering
    @TechTinkering Před 3 lety

    Incredible! The video definitely deserves a more descriptive title.

  • @vladimir0rus
    @vladimir0rus Před 3 lety +2

    I love such stuff. Absolutely amazing!

  • @damienboulay6939
    @damienboulay6939 Před 3 lety +1

    Just amazing . It is the demo of 2021

  • @paulpreuss4528
    @paulpreuss4528 Před 3 lety

    thats badass and what a beautiful demo to showcase it

  • @magroll4368
    @magroll4368 Před 3 lety +2

    1541 GodMode, really nice work!

  • @Logiktester
    @Logiktester Před 3 měsíci

    Oh my God....this makes me speechless....so creative....Großartig! ❤❤❤

  • @hytyttiva
    @hytyttiva Před 3 lety +1

    Never know something like this was even possible omg that's amazing!

  • @TheRetroShed
    @TheRetroShed Před 3 lety +2

    That is incredible! Can't help but feel for those poor devices though. A connector is needed for this :)

  •  Před 3 lety +3

    This is the coolest thing I've seen in a long time, amazing Job!

  • @golarac6433
    @golarac6433 Před 3 lety +26

    Awesome great job. Very suffisticated music for just a floppy motor. And very nice effects. I implemented video signal on a microcontroller so i know what it takes. Crazy you managed to do it ob a 1541 !!

    • @dpac0
      @dpac0 Před 3 lety +1

      I wonder how long it can be played before it kills the drive

  • @KrautRockt
    @KrautRockt Před 3 lety

    wahnsinn! respekt! wie kommt man nur auf diese idee und kann sie auch noch umsetzen?!?.. echt krass!...alles gute und weiterso!

  • @stephanfebruary
    @stephanfebruary Před 3 lety +1

    Most hardcore C64 demo ever.

  • @jhhl
    @jhhl Před 3 lety

    Just wait for a double sided floppy! Excellent work!

  • @olcsohigany
    @olcsohigany Před 3 lety +1

    You, sir, broke down some serious boundary!

  • @rainiervanautrijve6975

    That my friend is some serious magic .. congrats! Reflex brings back memories indeed LOL

  • @NULUSIOS
    @NULUSIOS Před 3 lety

    DAMN! DAMN!
    This ABSOLUTELY RULEZ!
    You are using 1541 CPU and RAM (and VIA)... damn, fantastic.
    Unbelievable.

  • @TheOriginalNCDV
    @TheOriginalNCDV Před 3 lety

    Wow! First I thought "oh, that's cute". And then my jaw dropped lower and lower. Absolutely amazing sir!

  • @hallomaximuss
    @hallomaximuss Před 3 lety

    Nothing else but mindblowing.... This is so amazing!

  • @skeetervandecamp4783
    @skeetervandecamp4783 Před 2 lety

    You are a master of this hardware. wow.

  • @daschefer
    @daschefer Před 3 lety +7

    I believe that you are the first person to take advantage of all the hardware resources included in a Drive! Nice Demo

    • @toweri_li
      @toweri_li Před 3 lety

      No, he is not.

    • @daschefer
      @daschefer Před 3 lety +1

      @@toweri_li Good to Know. Do you have the demo link that uses this technique before?

    • @toweri_li
      @toweri_li Před 3 lety

      @@daschefer Hehe.. Sorry, no link. There was no public Internet at that time. It is only saved on a 5 1/4" floppy disk... (Here's to hoping it is still readable!) :)
      You may want to check out this video: czcams.com/video/JtCmjiAJaCQ/video.html
      He / the program does not state, whether you need to have C=64 connected and running - but the program "Head Alignment" specifically does not need the computer itself. Upon running, the program is uploaded onto the 1541 disk drive RAM and then run by its CPU alone. You can switch off the computer - just like on this video.

  • @MyManicmonday
    @MyManicmonday Před 2 lety +1

    Okay, i have 3 1541-II but i would not try this at home^^ Still need my disk drives :) On the other hand: your demo is sooooo exciting! just wow!

  • @limtc
    @limtc Před 3 lety

    Most awesome demo ever!

  • @leandrotami
    @leandrotami Před 3 lety +1

    Mind completely, utterly blown.

  • @radekone
    @radekone Před 3 lety +2

    The most impressive thing I've seen on c64 :)

  • @BadBunny
    @BadBunny Před 3 lety

    Wow, that is some next-level stuff, brilliant!

  • @L0wcash
    @L0wcash Před 3 lety

    Congrats on this amazing achievement!

  • @wesleymoyer5530
    @wesleymoyer5530 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow! That's amazing! I'll have to admit I tensed up a bit when you cut those cables while the stuff was still plugged in and on... ;)

  • @ProBloggerWorld
    @ProBloggerWorld Před 2 lety

    I believe that this all started with a bet... 😄 Amazing work. And also greetings to Zorc. We chatted for quite some time during the late 90th.

  • @acakebread
    @acakebread Před 3 lety +6

    this is possibly the most amazing thing I have ever seen!

  • @tet_2947
    @tet_2947 Před 3 lety +1

    seit 1988 die beste demo, ohne zehvieh :) ... gut gemacht, ...."ein hoch auf die wissenschaft"

  • @ruzzaux738
    @ruzzaux738 Před 3 lety

    Are you the creator of the universe? No one else could be able to pull of such wizardry. Absolutley mindblowingly crazy stuff

  • @AaronHuslage
    @AaronHuslage Před 3 lety +2

    Amazing work!

  • @KeritechElectronics
    @KeritechElectronics Před 3 měsíci

    Look, Mum! No Computer!
    Pure loveliness. Hope it won't cause premature damage to the 1541.

    • @1337Shockwav3
      @1337Shockwav3 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Well, this pretty much shows how the 1541 *is* a full blown computer.