Zack Snyder’s Justice League movie review - Breakfast All Day
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- čas přidán 14. 03. 2021
- Christy Lemire (RogerEbert.com, @christylemire), Alonso Duralde (TheWrap, Linoleum Knife, Who Shot Ya?, @aduralde), and Matt Atchity (Moviefone.com, @matchity) review the long-awaited Zack Snyder’s Justice League, directed by Snyder and starring Ben Affleck, Gal Gadot, Henry Cavill, Jason Momoa, Amy Adams, Ezra Miller, and Ray Fisher.
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9:15 Christy comparing Zack Snyder and Justice League to the Blue/Black vs White/Gold Dress comparison was not what I was expecting but absolutely makes total sense when you think about it.
A tragic tale in my household. The dress is in fact blue and black, and my wife did always see it as such. I otoh can only see white and gold and I will never hear the end of it until death do us part...
It actually make no sense at all. People’s view of the dress isn’t fueled by taste, or choice. It’s a neurological phenomenon. The licorice analogy is a good one. The dress makes zero sense.
Geez, sorry that happened to you Christy after your 300 review! Fandoms can be intolerable.
Critics can also be intolerable.
@@johna2066 But "whataboutism" is always intolerable.
@@prefon13 Nice :)
@@prefon13 correct. That absurd term is always intolerable.
@@johna2066 they just speak their opinions on a movie and move on with their life. That’s all
No one bats an eye when someone search for some stone but everyone does when it comes to a box lol
Marvel is Pop. Zack Snyder's DC universe is effing METAL!!!
I am so sorry that happened to Christy with the 300 film review. That is just terrible like what the heck is wrong with people.
for real and death threats for not liking dark knight rises, smh
Alonso gets points for knowing about Kingdom Come & Alex Ross.
Apparently there is a 5 hour cut of Terrence Malick’s the Thin Red Line and the New World and a 4 hour cut of Blade Runner 2049 - or be hyped to watch those - 4 hours of one of the worst superhero movies I’ve seen, not so much.
Great review as usual, although I wanted it to be more scathing from all! 🤣
I appreciated all of yours views 👍
Mat you got me excited to watch this drunk! 🍻😋
I disagree with the narrative around superman stories has become, " he's a god how else do you tell a superman story if not grand and operatic" I agree the marvel mcu house style would not work, but the best superman story in recent memory was grounded in family drama, when it focused on superman and lois raising their son jon in a farm... That wasn't some grand greek myth...
Matt showed up on Allen v. Farrow 4th episode 😀 you must review it now!
For like 4 seconds, so random!
The documentary series felt one sided to me.
@@timothyw98 It was. But then it’s not surprising since the filmmakers are victim advocates and was funded by TimesUp on their past projects. So people should realize that. Anyone saying that doc “proves” anything is swayed by their emotion. No one but Woody and Dylan know the truth.
The Nightmare scene was the only reshoot, about 5 minutes. Everything else was shot in 2016.
Are those the Jared Leto Joker scenes? Cause those were filmed recently...
@@MarcosIsABaritone yes, its Batman, death stroke, cyborg, flash, Joke, and Evil Superman.
@@thebuck2708 Cool, cool.
@Chris Winn uh yeah it is. And he confirmed that in only 50 interviews in the last month.
A nice perspective on differing opinions.
I love all Zack Snyder's movies. Beginning with Watchmen.
Agree with Christy’s review. It wasn’t worth wading through the slog to get to the good parts. Next time, I’ll just fast forward the movie
Great and balanced review !
I think in life I'm way more of an Alonso, but this show is made infinitely more attractive with Matt's altruistic opinion. He wanted it to be good! He lived in hope!
Your dress analogy was wrong. Film is subjective. The dress was a neurological phenomenon.
The licorice is a better analogy.
I HATE black licorice. 😂
But I LOVE the Snyderverse!!! I wish desperately that he could be DC’s Kevin Feige. :)
for a 4 hour movie, the time went by surprisingly fast for me. i like the more gritty look and feel and it had the right mix of serious and funny for my taste. there were a few scenes that didn’t work for me but overall it was excellent.
I may have fallen asleep if I was drinking.
When JUSTICE LEAGUE came out in 2017, people said that Joss Whedon was to blame for the finished product because of his involvement, but now we know the truth. I'm referring to his creative contributions, not him being a piece of shit on set. A director's cut (that's supposed to show us Zack Snyder's true vision) has been released and it confirms that Joss didn't write all of the comedic moments during his re-shoots, and the ones he did write were just an extension of what was already there (which makes sense considering the (briefer) comic relief moments in MAN OF STEEL and BATMAN V SUPERMAN). Hell, there's even a couple of jokes in this version that didn't end up in the theatrical cut.
*Spoilers ahead!*
I think it's better to break this down into 4 categories:
1) Same pros: The overall plot (which is fun) hasn't changed.
2) Same cons: The overall plot (which is unmemorable and it doesn't live up to the hype of seeing this legendary team on screen) hasn't changed. Too many characters are crammed in, so they're not all properly developed. Zack makes so many individual moments feel like the most dramatic event in the world to the point of exhaustion.
3) New pros: The fact that it's 362 minutes long and doesn't feel like a drag is impressive! The multiple subplots don't feel rushed anymore. Some scenes contain new songs that fit well, while others don't have any music anymore (which highlights the intensity of the moment). More time is dedicated to Cyborg at the beginning in a way that makes them even more likable than before. The Flash gets a brand new scene where he's at a pet store. He sees a young woman in danger and he saves her, while showing that he knows how to treat animals. Steppenwolf now has scenes where he and Darkseid (his leader) discuss the evil plan. Even though they're clichéd, I was so invested because Steppenwolf was showing a surprising amount of emotion. This is the first time the words "Wonder Woman" are uttered by a character, making her name official in-universe (wait, should this be a con since it took so long for this to happen?). There's a new epilogue that sets future movies up. I know that has annoyed people in the past, but it's done in a smarter way. Instead of hinting at what's to come, they show it. And because "it" is something that destroys the world, we see our heroes at probably their lowest point, so we feel the urge to find out how they arrived at this point. Not since a certain episode of LOST has foreshadowing (if you can even call it that) been this exciting!
4) New cons: Some scenes contain new songs that don't fit. More time is dedicated to Aquaman at the beginning without much purpose. Do you remember his scene with Mera that explained his past? Now he also gets a scene with Vulko (a character that actually debuted in his solo movie) that's not different enough to avoid redundancy. The Flash gets a brand new scene where he's at a pet store. He sees a young woman in danger and takes more time than needed to save her. Sure, being cocky about his powers is part of the character, but if you're going to show him doing other things, can't they at least be things that matter?! Something other than admiring the woman's beauty?! How can you even feel smitten in a situation like this?! When Steppenwolf appears in Themyscira, the Amazons try to trap him in a chamber while Queen Hippolyta tries to protect the Mother Box. This time, said chamber falls from a cliff, but Steppenwolf and his Parademons emerge from the water. Look, this is the introduction of the villain. Anyone with half a brain knows that he won't be stopped so early in the story. This was trimmed in the theatrical cut (Steppenwolf simply destroys the doors of the chamber and exits) and it should've stayed that way. When he sees that Steppenwolf is about to kill his father, Cyborg attacks. This time, he lets his emotions take over, while he was a lot more in control in the theatrical cut. There's a new epilogue that's ruined once we discover that it's Batman having a nightmare. I know that doesn't mean it won't happen for real (it's most likely a premonition), but presenting it as a twist (especially one of the worst of its kind) made me roll my eyes. Not to mention that the image of him waking up makes the scene lose momentum. It gets worse once an alien (and future teammate) named Martian Manhunter shows up. Even though Batman has seen all of kinds of beings by this point, I still don't buy how he reacts so calmly to this visitor. Actually, his chill attitude implies that the nightmare didn't have any effect on him, taking away all the dramatic weight.
As you can see, it's all very balanced out, which is why I'm giving it the same grade.
7/10
What was Christy smoking? Was she even watching the same movie? Lol. The Snyder Cut has a HUGE amount of heart and passion, much moreso than a lot of cookie cutter Marvel movies.
The core central theme of this film was parenthood and FAMILY. Flash with his dad, Cyborg and his father play a HUGE role, the theme of "a father twice over"... Superman getting the voices of both his fathers ("Fly son... it's time. Love them Kal, as we loved you...") Wonder Woman, with her motherland...
Flash literally saves the entire world in this one, with a spectacular time reversal scene.
Interesting that Atchity seems to believe this is improved but gave the first movie a 7.0 on What the Flick. It doesn't really matter, but, it's interesting.
This has nothing to do with this movie but I always watch B.A.D. videos on 1.75 speed just for the sake of time (the videos are long and plentiful each week), and every now and then I reset the speed during the video and I'm so used to the sped up voices that you guys sound drunk at normal speed by comparison XD
22:48 I love Matt’s cup. I want it.
This the version that fans wanted but no way could be shown in theater with 4 hours running time in 2017.
Total FACTS. All the events that happened with this film were the best thing for Zack and his stans. Besides his daughter of course because that was just horrbile.
I have to say this is shot like a music video.
Well after seeing Justice League Synder cut I have to say that a movie usually tells a story. And the Snyder Cut tells a report. This movie has a lot of muscle and blood but it lacks a heart.
Positives - There is great spectacle. Jack Snyder and Warner Brothers left nothing to chance as they very elaborately created a great spectacle. From the opening scene which leads us to the plot to introduction of every character to the face off between the team to sequence of Superman to the climax. Its great action and spectacle. And they have time to their advantage. But its well spent. Its entertaining, there is also an attempt to integrate strong emotional content.
Elaborate- Justice League covers all the bases. It leaves nothing to chance. And even though it may feel a bit long it ensures the audience get a feel of the characters and understand the story at every stage. So it may feel long and tad boring, it works to the advantage of the movie at the climax. Without the set up the climax that this movie creates could not have been created. And the climax is done really well. It provides all the thrills and actions you would have expected.
Negatives
As I said it has the bones and muscles but not the heart. Conceptually there is nothing that is extraordinary. You have seen this in before in every movie. And at times the plot takes the easy way out. Its absolutely by the numbers. The track involving Superman and Cyborg are clear examples of that. It plays safe. It takes no risk with the story. It focuses on impressing the audience with the thrills , effects and action.
Compare with MCU - I still think the Marvel's Avengers was a better effort. I mean I still think it was not exceptional and neither is Justice League but conceptually Marvels Avengers, Infinity War and Endgame did a better job of getting the ensemble together and integrating them in the plot line. Endgame in particular did a great job, certainly till the climax. But overall their concept was better. Obviously they had more time and set up which Justice League lacks but with a 4 hour run time, you would have expected that narrative was a little more intricate. It does not feel so. And it also feels derivative. Even the emotional and interaction scenes between the characters feels kind of forced. In fact the best chemistry I felt was between was Bruce Wayne and Jeremy Irons, and Aqua Man and Aqua Girl. Another issue with DCU is that powers of their super heroes are exceeding the limits of rationality. The powers of Cyborg, Super Man, and Wonder Woman seemed way excess of their stated capabilities. That is another area where Marvel is better. Yes even if their plots define gravity, the powers of their super heroes on display are always very measured and within the sphere of rationality.
I would give Justice League a 6.5-7. Its executed really well but as I said it feels like report and not a story. It lacks originality and it lacks nuance.
I had so much fun with this
I liked most of it. Pacing was slow in places. I didn’t like the song cues. And the slo-mo was overused. With that said, the storyline is clearer and characters were much more layered esp Flash and Cyborg. I am going to watch it again this weekend. I am not a huge ZS fan but I love DC characters.
Zack Snyder is too flashy for me. I've always hated his over use of slow motion, the shots that are made to look like religious paintings, the R ratings, the grimey-ness, they fetishization of people just beating the ever living shit out of each other, it's all just too much. On top of all that, his characters and scripts are just flat and lifeless. Christopher Nolan and Sam Raimi remain the guys who make superhero movies with adult appeal. I think their movies are far more mature, and they aren't rated R, nor are they these cheap soulless cash grab action comedies that the MCU is churning out. Something about making an R rated Batman and Superman movie is just ironically childish.
That being said, I can't wait to watch this. We're just in a lull right now due to COVID, and no studios have released any big movies since Tenet pretty much, so I'm just excited to watch a big dumb huge budget superhero epic with Batman.
Not a big fan of Snyder, BUT the responses to this movie are fascinating. Not all in one go probably, but I'm down to watch. Especially with a critic I trust calling saying it has more in common with arthouse cinema or cerebral superhero fair like ANG LEE'S HULK than it's contemporary superhero brethren. If someone calls ZSJL the "SATANTANGO OF SUPERHERO MOVIES," then I gotta watch.
I do think our expectations for SUPERHERO movies is what ultimately hurts us. Is ZSJL the best thing ever? Prolly not, but being self serious and big-headed about big characters is only a problem if you prefer a lot more "fun" in your superhero stew.
Yeah, best case scenario, we get an All-Star Superman/ Geoff Johns Flash type DC movie (that's why I love the wacky earnestness of AQUAMAN) but getting a Kingdom Come Justice League isn't the worst thing ever.
I cant wait to se it again march 18, my favorite superhero movie now cant stop thinking about it. After the snydercut comes infinity war then endgame ❤️
jossticevengers was a 4-5 this must be like an 8-9. i just dont know if i should wait and watch it with friends cause i doubt i will watch the whole thing twice save to look at certain scenes and look for easter eggs
Jeremy irons as alfred, connie nielsen as hippolyta and amber heard as mera were my favorite supporting characters
Completely disagree. This movie was epic, and in my opinion, a masterpiece of fantasy cinema. Something tells me this just isn't for you guys. Maybe this stuff isn't apart of your childhood. For many people it is. Seems obvious you just don't get this stuff. Probably never will. That's ok. To each there own. However, these characters are beloved by generations who we read comics, watched TV iterations and animated versions for the big and small screen. This live action extravaganza that is Zack Snyder's Justice League is the movie that these characters deserved. It's also the movie we deserved as comic book fans and movie fans. Undermine it all you want, but this movie and it's cinematic universe is something special.
Not a Snyder fan at all but I tend to enjoy his movies at least to some extent. The spectacle feels monotonous and hamfisted after a while but the storytelling works pretty well as a whole. I'm not sure if I could have watched he whole 4 hours in one sitting. I watched it in parts and it was a good experience. Not a masterpiece by a long shot but a fine superhero spectacle with various flaws and strengths. Wish I could have seen this without or before seeing the theatrical release.
If individual stories had been done before the bringing together, then the story would've been easier to tell.
This is no dream this is *really Happening.
I completely disagree....I thought the pacing was incredible in this movie and 4 hours just flew by.
Looking good, Matilda.
Am I the only one who got confused when they were comparing this to Wagner's _Ring_ cycle only to figure out later they were talking about Peter Jackson's Hobbit movies?
same
No, they're two different things.
@@mattatchity2431 Ba-DUM-bum!
@@mattatchity2431 lol no, I meant same as in ''same here, I too was confused". I too thought of Wagner, because of the talk of opera and Snyder's style :)
You know that boom mic can go lower right?
Ugh 4 hours of Zack Snyder
I don't know if I can commit
Love your review
Brutally honest you all are.
❤️ ❤️ ❤️
I loved Dead, 300 and Watchmen ... everything else was expensive trash. Like most DCEU flicks, his DC movies stand out in how bad the CGI is
Zack Snyder has done the impossible and made a film that is both better and worse than the original at the same time. Kudos.
So just agreeing with anything they say here as gospel?
This movie is better than Whedon's Cut in every way possible.
If you eat 4-hour movies for breakfast, how about some Lav Diaz for dinner?
I was completely blown away by how good Justice League was -- and I am not a fan of Zack Synder. I only intended to watch the first hour, but ended up watch all 4 hours because I was enthralled by it -- it even made me cry (1st jail scene conversation between The Flash and his dad). However, not sure why it was in 4:3 aspect ratio, but I didn't mind it.
15:54 👍But Zack dropped out right after they covered Ayn Rand.
I dont think I can do a 4 hour movie shot like a music video.
Then dont watch lol
I bet you 'll be able to watch wandavision full season in one day right?🙄
I dnt know why people acting like they are forced to watch this movie
@@squall222x Probably didn't have a problem watching Infinity War and Endgame back to back either. More excuses and Snyder shade as usual.
Of course you'd think that.
Once YOU make a film or even a music video, think and speak again 👌🏽
haha yes. that point of boxes was not lost on me. I mean the Amazonians put it in a strong cave, and the Atlantis people in hole in he ocean and the humans just dug a 3 feet hole and put in in. I mean why were the humans shown so stupid.
You review movies on your laptop!
I like that I always agree with at least 1/3 of you guys and it’s never the same person. Perfectly balanced as all things should be ... to borrow from a different superhero franchise. 9/10 for Snyder cut
In short even though I've not seen it they have said that this is a film which puts style before substance no better than his previous film. That's gotta hurt . He's not gonna win any Oscars so who really cares?
These are a lot of details in a non-spoiler review. ???
Because it’s the exact same movie with added scenes
@@CookieMonster70119 Unless you've seen it you don't know how different it is. They mentioned things that weren't in the original cut I could not watch the whole review.
The three best reviewers I know, I loved this whole convo and I have no interest in the movie. Would be four if BEN ever showed up xox love
I have been waiting for this review! I had watched a lot of glowing reviews, but they were all people who had an affinity for "the Snyderverse oeuvre". I am not one of those people. Even the 30 second teaser for this movie was exhausting. Finally someone answered the question for me "If I didn't like MoS and I didn't like BvS, will I like this?" ANSWER: "No, this is just like those and also FOUR HOURS LONG".
Wow you really needed to wait for a review to come to that conclusion? =/
I didn't like the original one much so there's no way I'm watching 4hrs.
Normally, I watch a Directors Cut if I love the theatrical version.
6:42 What the F is that Matt?
It's a tiki mug from Lono in Hollywood.
“...have the benefit of everyone having had their own movie.”
This is a stupid expectation entirely manufactured by Marvel. Absolutely no other ensemble films operate this way.
I wouldn’t say it’s an expectation. It’s just been proven time and time again that it’s next to impossible to fully introduce and flesh out that amount of characters in a single movie. How else would these characters be fleshed out otherwise without their own films? I don’t think it’s a marvel comparison. I think it’s an observation.
If the guy next to you on the golf course is hitting a bunch of hole-in-one’s, and you aren’t. But you’re swinging in a completely different way... maybe your swing is just bad?
Nothing against Zach Snyder, but I don’t think he’s great enough of a filmmaker to pull off 5 hero introductions in a sub-3 hour long film. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You’re again focusing on something that’s an expectation nowhere else in cinema. You don’t get backstories to every character in every film- especially ensemble films which Superhero Teamups are a sub-genre of. Take heist movies for example. You get a loose outline of archetypes mixed with personalities, quirks, and abilities of each teammate with focus on a couple of them at best. People love heist movies, they work all the time. Those characters do not have or need separate origins films to work. Why are you imposing this arbitrary decision on the super heroes?
I love the DC characters, but I am not a fan of Zach Snyder's interpretation of them or his style. But I am going to watch it.
can't wait!!
Thank you for revealing that it has Zack Snyder's wrong-headed color de-saturation which makes such films impossible to watch. No HBO Max for me.
guy on the top right has no idea what he's talking about. there was only one scene that was "new" footage & it only added up to about 4-7 minute of actual "new" photography. this was confirmed a few times. the entire cut was already shot years ago, the only missing thing was full VFX and a Score that needed finishing.
Matt was also the most favorable about the film so chill.
I'm glad you were part of the production so that you can correct us on these things.
@@mattatchity2431 He doesn't have to be a part of the production when there are over a dozen interviews of Snyder verifying what the new footage was.
15:31 Snyder summarized.
Oh boy...
These guys hated JOKER too. hmmmmm.
A lot of other trustworthy critics did. Check the Metacritic score if you want to see the big picture. The average critical rating was a mere 59/100. All actual art is graceful complex communication, and a movie that clumsily delivers conflicting messages is not a great one. That was the observation that, in varying forms, popped up in one review after another. It was even in Jenny Nicholson's, and she isn't some seasoned professional movie reviewer.
@@WaitingtoHit critics don’t speak for most audiences which had an 88% audience score on RT. That’s seems to be a more reliable take IMO
Aside from Acting, Joker is very clumsily executed in some parts.
Today I have seen plenty of comic book oriented movie critics give glowing recommendations for this cut of Justice League. Of course, they have a built in bias to love this version of Justice League, given that they are comic book aficionados. It is more interesting to see what critics, like Christy, Alonso and Matt, who have more eclectic and refined tastes, think of this. The best comic book films are those which can appeal to people who aren't steeped in comic book culture.
Which is kinda Zack snyder movie.
so a comic book movie which was made for comic book fans in mind liked by comic book fans is retarded cause eclectic taste film critics dont like it ? so in ur sense avengers endgame is absolute dogshit cause scorsese said marvel movies are just theme park rides
Not really true. Comic book aficionados still don’t like JL
This movie is sorta catered towards critics though, just because of the story behind it. The story of this guy who had to step down from a project to have a corporate hack job of his movie made, then come back and get his fully realized vision out there is something that people who are movie critics are going to get behind. It also has the benefit of coming out after we have seen nothing this big and exciting for a long time because of COVID. If this was the movie that came out in 2017, it probably would have done a lot worse without the benefits of the story behind it and the COVID lull of exciting movies.
You could just say Grace Randolph. We all know that's who you're alluding to.
these critics and their self important conversation controlling opinions are why dc ended up where it is.
You could say it’s a good movie you know, lol it’s okay
Critics like them are the ones that screwed up DC
@Tony Boies I'm glad they are getting back on track. At least we all agree on that
"Joke-y", "jokeyness", what happend to the word, humorous? Like adults would say.
Two words for a film like this at four hours - self and indulgent 🥱 Christy, genuinely sorry you have to deal with douche bags 🥲 in fact , I can watch 2001 and Vertigo in the same time frame!
Not really when you take into consideration a lot was being crammed intot his movie because its potentially the director's last DCEU movie. Also, Zack himself isn't getting paid for this, he's doing it for his deceased daughter and for the fans of his films. The movie isn't really made for the general audience per se, its more for the hardcore fans really. The only reason it is on HBO max and you have to pay for it is because WB wouldn't give Zack the rights to finish his films and he had to take some money for polishing the CGI. If he could pay it with his pocket and release it for free, he would, but he couldn't.
Lol hating for the sake of hating since it's a Snyder movie. Shame i wasted my time.
Lol I know.
How are they hating for the sake of hating? They literally spent 24 minutes talking about why they felt how they felt. Snyder fans are the biggest snowflakes on Earth.
This will be like Christmas at grandma's. You have to drag the kids every year because it's hours in the car to get presents like underwear and socks, but one year you don't go and everyone freaks and the parents are like "Seriously? I thought you hated going there..."
So this Thursday will be Christmas at grandma's when she pulls out all the stops and you plan to stay twice as long - and the kids will HATE it more than ever, because not only is it still socks and underwear, but they had a taste of a year without driving hours to see the old bat to get them.
You know what life was like without Zack Snyder? We got Wonder Woman and Aquaman and Shazam. But here you go, folks - another dark superhero dystopia that kicks off with a Swedish funeral dirge. Enjoy.
Wonder Woman was produced and it's script was co-written by ZS and his influence in the film was quite apparent...
Shazam was a failure with many critics and the box office and made less than any Zack Snyder DC film ever made. I may also add that Birds of Prey also flopped at the box office and with critics. And I'm not going to even talk about the debauchery called WW 1984. Another film after ZS.
So your point that the DCEU is somehow better w/out ZS is flawed. They've actually gotten worse with only WW, Aquaman and The Joker achieving financial box office success.
the inordinate amount of dislikes in this makes me chuckle. Superhero fandom is ...cringe.
Am I the only one scared to watch this? Like are they just trashing this thing for a half hour? Cuz even those I despise BvS learning about Snyder these last few years for me rooting for this thing and I don't wanna see a dunk fest. Someone spoil it for me lol I'm too afraid 😅
There is a lot of reviewers. These guys don't know what there are talking about. They're not accustomed to movie of this genre.
Having watched Christy, Matt and Alonso's review now of this film, I can assure you it is not all negative. Granted, Christy wasn't that into this film, but Matt and Alonso did highlight some positives. Overall, it was a balanced critique, and it was not just three sophisticated movie critics lambasting the film as too pedestrian. Ultimately, from what I gather from the review, they all concur that if you like Snyder's work, especially is visual and gritty style, his cut of Justice League displays him at his best.
It's just a movie, sweetie. ❤️
@@elmichellangelo They are appreciators of the big action blockbuster movie and they do highlight the things that work for them and some that don't. I can appreciate reviewers that aren't always 10s or 0s
@@elmichellangelo They literally watch movies of this genre all the time. They would be hard pressed to avoid them. They just don't like this movie and that's ok.
Why do they sound like freshman philosophy students who just got their first berets?
You're talking about the character's in Justice League right?
@@nishantpradhan7828 I’m talking about you.
Edit: I’m just kidding btw
Well as I've often found Snyder's work as coming across as pretentious overblown nonsense, so I'll be giving this a big old miss I'm afraid.
It's a Zach Snyder movie. I haven't seen it yet but it's a Snyder movie which means that it's going to be bad, look bad from the get go. I'll watch because I'm still curious but mostly because I really want to know how right I am. Lol.
If this looks bad to you then I would hate to know what looks good....
Terrible review
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Terrible comment.
Zack Snyder has had one hell of a comeback tour this year. The fact that any of us can think about the Snyder Cut and not immediately associate it with MAGA boys typing in all caps about SJWs in their parents’ basements is incredible. Somebody needs to pay that marketing team alllll the money.
I do my best to ignore the worst parts of his fanbase. Instead I try to focus on the fact he dedicated this movie to his daughter, and I am glad he is able to get some sense of closure.
Ironic, You just described every liberals and How most of them are spoiled suburban white kids that live with their parents, while conservatives all have jobs and live on their own.
@@brunomars204 lol mmmk
@@brunomars204 P.S. I have had a job and lived on my own since I was 18, as have 99% of all people I’ve ever met, Democrats included.
*Slow clapping 👏🏾🙄
To the guy in the upper right: Only one new scene was shot this past year. The rest of the film was ready for post-production years ago. You shouldn’t confidently state things that are completely false.
So glad that someone working from Atlas Entertainment is here to set the record straight.
You can tell none of them are into comic books. They could care less about what the fans wanted like Superman in the original comic book black suit. Also what's wrong with making it gritty? Marvel is boring now and ruined by Disney's hypocritical virtue signaling and generically repetitive, syrupy plots. That's what I like about DC's movies. Even if the execution turns out messy at least they tried something different.
Nothing about DC movies are different.
@@oddjob914 Don't agree, Superman was more brooding, doubtful and introspective then ever before in Snyder's films. Kind of like a being who would not know what to do if instilled with God like powers? The first Wonder Woman movie was not only very good. But also presented a strong super heroine who wasn't really preachy and woke but exciting to watch and a great role model for women. Also very much honoring both the old TV series as well as comic books and animation. Despite the sequel's problems WW is much more popular then any female Marvel character to date. Aquaman, a character which has been the butt of many jokes for decades was reinvented and somewhat redeemed. In a dumb, but fun, and very one of a kind looking action movie. Batman as played by both Christian Bale and Ben Affleck was more then ever shown on film to be more powerful, intelligent and in physical form, comic book like then ever before. Also during the Christian Bale era director Christopher Nolan made a very unusual choice not just to cast a fine actress, who is also attractive as Catwoman. But still unconventionally goes against the traditonal image of the character, Anne Hathaway. Now despite the criticism of Hathaway's casting by many before the movie was released she is considered to be the best and most realistic Catwoman, at least on film to date. I agree, but I still enjoy to this day Michelle Pfeiffer's campy take in the Tim Burton days. Soon we're gonna get another unconventional choice in Batman casting with Robert Pattinson in the title role. And an even better choice for Catwoman, Zoe Kravitz. Admittedly Warner/DC's leaps of faith although daring can turn out to be disastrous...cough cough...Jesse Eisenberg and Jared Leto playing the two biggest Supervillians, I dunno, ever? (Cue facepalm)...The Fantabulous something...something.. ..of Harley Quinn. But Heath Ledger, a former stand-up named Michael Keaton! Somebody knew what they were doing even when the choices seemed nuts over there! Plus, the DC movies look much more gritty then Marvel's. So now tell me DC and Marvel are the same?
I feel like Matt is backtracking on his original review. He said that the movie works thanks to Whedon, and I agree. Whedon might be an asshole but after seeing this long, boring, sepia mess, one can understand the changes he made to the story. The best part imho was Batman telling Flash how he should focus on saving only one person, and that seems to have been all Whedon. Again, abusive asshole, but his version was tighter and didn't meander in all the unnecessary subplots. Snyder even tried to give the janitor some sort of strange backstory that went nowhere. And props to Ray Fisher for calling out abuse and sticking to his guns but I found his performance grating and his character super annoying and whiney, I get it´s a sad story but it came off so off-putting. The Iris West scene might have looked nice but it was completely unnecessary, tbh so was the epilogue, everyone is better off just watching Justice League Dark: Apokolips War instead.
I enjoyed the "new" Cyborg stuff and Ray Fisher's performance - IMO the most redeeming change in this new cut. Maybe ironically, given how rounded and contained a story it is, it also kind of reveals why his story was perhaps the easiest area to cut and bring down the entirely impractical run time (even while its absence brings down the quality of the film).
Relatedly, I'm sure this is my naivete, but while I totally appreciate directors' frustration with studio meddling and cutting, if this 4-hour cut was genuinely Zack Snyder's original vision, at what point does a director lose the high ground to complain when the studio is forced to trim it down and release something that is inevitably messy and chopped up?
It was still bad.
Did you actually really see it? I doubt it....
THIS.... This gets a 24 minute review? Not to mention another video with spoilers to come. Wow. Please save the 24 minute reviews for important grown-up movies.
“Grown up movies” , ok boomer
If you think any movie is important you're way too steeped in your own echochamber
@A R You’re a clever one
Stop drinking during movies. This is your job. No shit you enjoy the movie better when you're drunk. You enjoy everything better when you're drunk. Behave like professionals.
What the fuck is wrong with you hahahaha. Why do you feel like you can tell someone how to do their job? They're not doctors. And it's about to the general public wether they accept their reviews or not.
What the fuck is wrong with you hahahaha. Why do you feel like you can tell someone how to do their job? They're not doctors. And it's about to the general public wether they accept their reviews or not.
@@nishantpradhan7828 Being sober during your job is the standard across the entire country.
@@leonkuwata4510 Yeah but this is a fucking Justice League movie. Like come on man, this movie is a 4 hour slog for anyone except Snyder fans. It's near impossible to watch it in one sitting sober unless you're into this kinda shit, which 99% of people aren't. It's a children's movie pretending to be adult and mature, but it isn't because Snyder doesn't know what mature is.
And again, film criticism is subjective. Anyone can be in any state of mind if their job is to give a subjective report on something, as long as they disclose that information, which Matt did.
You’re not the boss of me, Leon!
So much negativity from this review
Well it's a Zack Snyder film.
Probably because its bad
You confuse negativity for constructive criticism my friend. Not everyone is gonna love everything. Get over it!
@@CookieMonster70119 You're so negative, Ryan. Everyone IS going to love everything.
@@WaitingtoHit I would surely love to live in that world😭