There's actually _another_ Mario Metroidvania hack in existence, this one called Extra Mario Bros (a hack of the original SMB). While the game does have checkpoints, and even a Lap 2 run, it does not have native save functionality... so either you're using savestates, or doing it in one run.
There's also one made for new Super Mario Bros. DS called Super Mario Endless Earth. I have not played it, so I cannot tell you if it's any good, much less if it's as good as these hacks.
I don't even think rom hack difficulty really comes from a lack of design or polish that is afforded to big company games. I think these games are implicitly not designed in a vacuum. Anyone willing to make a hack like this and put in all the effort is naturally inclined to make it harder as the base game is exceptionally easy for them, and they are a part of the community. I would argue that has more to do with difficulty, and it's why things like Kaizo hacks are so prevalent. While smw was designed for first-timers and veterans alike, new players are far less likely to play a rom hack if they have no familiarity with the game it's based on.
Given that Samus literally need control over herself or else she becomes just a humanoid Metroid creature, there is a probable future where Samus does lose control for some reason and you have to find the next best option. This person pretty much only has technology and a stiff body for some reason so that you can gate progress for technological purposes and crawling because for some reason it is that painful for the person to get down on their belly from a standing position. That justifies the set up for villain Samus in a Metroidvania quite well.
@@drdca8263Actually what happened is that by absorbing the X parasite that ate Quiet Robe’s corpse she had assimilated thoha DNA and thus gained the ability to control her metroid half due to the thoha being the only chozo that can control metroids due to their distrust of the mawkin that Samus had the DNA of in the first place. TL;DR Samus ate the evil jelly that gave her the ability to toggle Metroid life force sucking on and off
hell run hard mode (evil) seriously, though, i actually find blood stained sanctuary really fun. the timer makes you feel like you HAVE to go really fast, but if you take a little bit of time, its actually pretty doable
@@megaman37456 And Mario is a Donkey Kong character, does that make Super Mario Sunshine a Donkey Kong game? No. The games are built very differently and their design identities should be respected.
@@Skooch YOU CAN SPINJUMP ON THE GIANT SPINY CANT YOU (srsly could you have spinjumped at that point cause that would have made the spiny fight easier, if they took that from you i would cry)
Really fun video, the commentary was really fun, I started playing league for the first time a few months ago and I've been watching your older league videos, nice to see you're still posting high quality videos now
Not gone hold you fam, not even 10 secs in and I'm already liking the vid. I know I'm about to be laughing my ass off while loving video games. Keep it up bruh 😂🤣😂🙏🏽✊🏽
Just chiming in to say i love the type of videos where you put random characters in somewhat similar games, you should do peppino in fucking Alan Wake or something next
It's funny you even ask the what if question about Mario metroidvanias, since the inspiration behind Metroid to begin with (besides the Alien franchise) was combining the platforming of Mario with the exploration of LoZ.
This mod is called Super Mario Expedition and it was created by domokun007. I shouldn't have to go to the end of the video and see the creator in the credits to google their name to find their game. Respect mod authors. Their name and the name of their mods should be on full display in your description and highlighted in the very beginning of your video. Especially when you're making money off of it and they're not.
6:50 to be honest... it really is. if youre fighting for your life, in danger of drowning, and you see the floating dead body of someone floating right next to you, who obviously failed in the same situation... its not exactly inspiring any confidence of "im gonna live"
i have never seen a thumbnail and title change between reloading a page like in this video, the windows media control still showing the first one i clicked cool
Skooch went from the "League of Legends" guy to a "im gonna stick random characters in different game types" guy
Not a bad story ark
He did League?
He went from suffering to suffering (fun)
Greatest character arc in history
Upgrade tbh
ok but "the only thing worse than the fear of drowning is seeing somebody who already did" is an AMAZING LINE
fr, it reminds me of that one part in i hate you where mario sees all his dead selves
That's the subject of In The Air Tonight by Phil Collins
And they say that Toad is still waiting for Mario to find his key so he can finally get to his fridge.
Damn
No idea what Ur on about but lol
Oh now I get it
@@YouGoBoomYoget That happened 2 minutes into the video, no shit comments talking about a video you haven't watched are going to be confusing.
Lol
There's actually _another_ Mario Metroidvania hack in existence, this one called Extra Mario Bros (a hack of the original SMB). While the game does have checkpoints, and even a Lap 2 run, it does not have native save functionality... so either you're using savestates, or doing it in one run.
Was about to reference that. Phenomenal hack. I consider it the B3313 of nes mario hacks.
I mean, if you're not using safe states in general, what are you doing? Wasting your time having to go back every time you miss a jump.
There's also one made for new Super Mario Bros. DS called Super Mario Endless Earth. I have not played it, so I cannot tell you if it's any good, much less if it's as good as these hacks.
Almost like classic NES Metroid
I don't even think rom hack difficulty really comes from a lack of design or polish that is afforded to big company games. I think these games are implicitly not designed in a vacuum.
Anyone willing to make a hack like this and put in all the effort is naturally inclined to make it harder as the base game is exceptionally easy for them, and they are a part of the community. I would argue that has more to do with difficulty, and it's why things like Kaizo hacks are so prevalent.
While smw was designed for first-timers and veterans alike, new players are far less likely to play a rom hack if they have no familiarity with the game it's based on.
It's called developer bias. Devs become blind to difficulty.
The dev saw your last video on making core abilities cost money and went "Write that down"
Hopefully more devs can hop on board 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@SkoochMoneybags face ahh mechanic. XD I personally don't like it.
You raise a good point. A vampiric Samus would be an awesome final boss for a Metroidvania.
Given that Samus literally need control over herself or else she becomes just a humanoid Metroid creature, there is a probable future where Samus does lose control for some reason and you have to find the next best option. This person pretty much only has technology and a stiff body for some reason so that you can gate progress for technological purposes and crawling because for some reason it is that painful for the person to get down on their belly from a standing position. That justifies the set up for villain Samus in a Metroidvania quite well.
SA-X, Dark Samus
@@iantaakalla8180 She was cured of the partial Metroid DNA thing at the end of Dread. She's back to being pure human now.
@@WaffletigercatYou mean by the thing taking the form of that one Chozo? How do we know it was removed rather than just made dormant again?
@@drdca8263Actually what happened is that by absorbing the X parasite that ate Quiet Robe’s corpse she had assimilated thoha DNA and thus gained the ability to control her metroid half due to the thoha being the only chozo that can control metroids due to their distrust of the mawkin that Samus had the DNA of in the first place.
TL;DR
Samus ate the evil jelly that gave her the ability to toggle Metroid life force sucking on and off
Happy Birthday, Cake
Happy b day
Happy day birth
Why are you replying to me thats what Mr. Skooch said to comment-
I thought we could just get a long chain of happy birthdays in the replies for Mr. Cake
@@panix6 ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Happy Birthday again, Cake
With Skooch tackling that space ship I wanna see him go through the Hell run at the end of the true ending to Cave Story.
hell run hard mode (evil)
seriously, though, i actually find blood stained sanctuary really fun. the timer makes you feel like you HAVE to go really fast, but if you take a little bit of time, its actually pretty doable
@@elizathegamer413Fun fact: the timer is optional
Great video! Chasm is pronounced with a hard K sound.
Oh, thanks. Kchasm.
@@noway9267 You're kwelcome
I thought it was a joke to make it an alliteration with "Chomp"
@ColossalM Komp’s Kasm
My brother in heaven and christ....warioland 3 is right around the corner.
this is exactly what I was thinking lol
Video Title: What would a Mario Metroidvania look like?
Me: Ever play Wario Land 3?
Technically that's a Wario metroidvania, different design philosophy.
@@Trayen100 Wario is still a mario character.
@@megaman37456 And Mario is a Donkey Kong character, does that make Super Mario Sunshine a Donkey Kong game? No. The games are built very differently and their design identities should be respected.
@Trayen100 Yes it does. Super Mario Sunshine is a shitty Donkey Kong game.
@@orsonzedd Wanna go further? Donkey Kong was originally a Popeye game. So... Super Mario Sunshine is a Popeye game.
12:00 Nice to see you noticed Undine from Secret of Mana
Happy birthday Cake!!!! 🎉
Skooch, make a video about you learning how to swim.
*drowns instead*
@@Skooch YOU CAN SPINJUMP ON THE GIANT SPINY CANT YOU
(srsly could you have spinjumped at that point cause that would have made the spiny fight easier, if they took that from you i would cry)
i dont know if standalone fangames count, but the plumber thing by hempuli (yes, THAT hempuli) is another great "mario" metroidvania.
Here comes Skooch once again breaking the meta on the daily. Dang this man cooks harder than anyone
I think it's called "quick sand" because that's just how the states of matter work.
Well, we got Mario hollow knight BEFORE gta6
Before silksong
@@Helldragon789thats what I was gonna say
Just a massive version of mario vs donkey kong with a bunch of upgrades scattered around a single map
That castle boss looked like one of those helper spirit thingies from the Mana games.
Undine, the Mana Spirit of Water, to be exact.
Oh boy them Cha-zams... I can't get over them.
That's no mere Chill Bully. That's Chief Chilly from 64DS!
I've wanted a cyberpunk aesthetic gritty metroidvania starring princess daisy for a decade
13:06 why is he throwing molotovs?
I know it’s not quite a Mario game, but Wario Land 3 is a Metroidvania
Really fun video, the commentary was really fun, I started playing league for the first time a few months ago and I've been watching your older league videos, nice to see you're still posting high quality videos now
11:40 That's Undine from Secret of Mana.
12:32
Great video man.. looking forward to seeing what else u got on ur channel
Happy Belated Birthday EpicCake.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY CAKE!!
happy birthday cake!!
oh yeah and these videos have been really good skooch, keep it up and all that
Not gone hold you fam, not even 10 secs in and I'm already liking the vid. I know I'm about to be laughing my ass off while loving video games. Keep it up bruh 😂🤣😂🙏🏽✊🏽
Randomly seeing Undine from Secret of Mana was wild.
I’ve always wanted Mario metroidvania starring Dimentio after the events of SPM trying to escape the underworld
I love this content so much its insane
Another banger, good shit🔥
Just chiming in to say i love the type of videos where you put random characters in somewhat similar games, you should do peppino in fucking Alan Wake or something next
Honestly seeing Skooch upload is a pure highlight on any day.
The randomizing games/characters videos are here to stay baby! YESSIR!!!
Happy bday!
2:13 that Chespirito reference ❤
It would look a lot like Kirby and The Amazing Mirror.
It's funny you even ask the what if question about Mario metroidvanias, since the inspiration behind Metroid to begin with (besides the Alien franchise) was combining the platforming of Mario with the exploration of LoZ.
Princess should have said "I'm sorry but your princess is in another castle" then given him another level even harder
Happy Birthday, Cake!
I'm really enjoying this vid btw
these videos are bangers Skooch
Another great video Skooch. Happy Birthday, Cake! 🎂
Certified skooch banger
This was unique and awesome!
You kind sir, gained my respect after that New Jersey diss lol
If you want a Sonic Metroidvania, there is a fangame called Sonic Chronos
It's amazing how much of the stream was dedicated to the stupid code and it just ended up rewarding extra hearts.
Also happy birthday, Cake.
I'm glad I got to see you play this live
This mod is called Super Mario Expedition and it was created by domokun007. I shouldn't have to go to the end of the video and see the creator in the credits to google their name to find their game. Respect mod authors. Their name and the name of their mods should be on full display in your description and highlighted in the very beginning of your video. Especially when you're making money off of it and they're not.
Happy birthday, Cake!
Happy birthday to you, Cake!
6:50 to be honest... it really is. if youre fighting for your life, in danger of drowning, and you see the floating dead body of someone floating right next to you, who obviously failed in the same situation... its not exactly inspiring any confidence of "im gonna live"
Happy birthday, RandomEpicCake! Also, great video, Skooch.
First time watching your content, pretty epic! not gonna lie, rlly wacky and goofy! Juts became a fan just by this vid alone
Great video as always, keep it up, and seeing mario have metrovainia vibe is weird.
Happy Birthday Epic Cake!
I LIVE YOU SKOOP. HAPPY BIRTHDAY CAKE 🎉
That boss at 11:52 is from Secret of Mana. In that game it was an elemental ally.
Happy birthday, Cake.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY CAKE
I just found this video, and I already like your voice and your earrings. Immediate sub!
You had me at Movie Magic. Maybe it's a 1% joke, but I am that 1%.
Skooch there is a Super Mario Metroidvania
It’s called Wario Land
You should try them
The oks at 10:16 were a perfect rammus moment, i can't believe you missed it.
You posted this on my Birthday lol
Happy birthday cake, I think that would be very wholesome and awesome :)
Happy Birthday, Cake! :D
Happy bday Cake! Hope it waa a good one
happy birthday mr cake
11:45 That's the undine (water elemental spirit) from "Secret of Mana."
Happy late birthday, Cake!!
“UMMM ACTUALLY ITS CALLED A ROM HACK 🤓☝️”
No joke, when I was playing Mario Wonder earlier this year I was thinking a Mario Metroidvania would be really cool.
Happy birthday cake!
Undine was upgraded to princess of Hyrule. I like that. :D
he can't keep getting away with this
Happy birthday cake !!
happy birthday, cake!!
Skooch is king
Like I've said before: With you narrating a video, I'm definitely watching.
Oh hey the mareep guy
king is back folks
THAT’S MY GOAT
Thanks Skooch for the quality uploads
i have never seen a thumbnail and title change between reloading a page like in this video, the windows media control still showing the first one i clicked
cool
skooch gaming
Awesome video, THANK YOU!
Happy birthday cake! 🎂
happy birthday randomepiccake
Happy Bday cake Hope you have a great one
I have to play this.
I literally thought hey where is that scooch guy and one hour earlier you uploaded a vido thank you!
I now want an official mario metroidvania. ❤
yoooo HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Cake