If You Pitch Your Drone Up From Here Then You Will Be Arrested Under Section 14 Of The Public Order
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- čas přidán 3. 05. 2023
- Today we take a look at the protest surrounding UAV Tactical Systems Ltd, Unit F, Meridian East, Meridian Business Park, Leicester, LE19 1WZ.
More info about the protest can be found here - / pal_action
We speak to many constables on the approach but are stopped from getting as close as we wish in order to film the building.
We are also told we cannot take the drone up.
The question is, does the drone go up?
See part 2 to see what else happens - • By Covering it, You’re...
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Sergeant -"Ive been doing this job 20 years, you are not flying your drone from here" Police Drone Operator "Yes mate, do your thing" 😆
acting Sergeant, not got much chance of promotion after this airs
Tail between the surges legs
@@badlarry172 Police are all turning into little Hitlers.
@@BBBCP-564pawyt Exactly - 20 years is a long time on technology advancement - bet Sarge still has a bamboo stick to change channels on his TV!!
The drone pilot sent the Sgt off for an early lunch to prevent and further cock ups ( I think the SGT has had quite a few early lunches by the looks of him . 20 years service and he cannot read and understand legislation !
It not in my nature to mock the afflicted, but in the Sgt’s case I am prepared to make an exception .😂
The Public Order Act 1986 defines a march or moving protest as a 'procession' and a static gathering as an 'assembly'.
An assembly is a GROUP of people, “assembly” means an assembly of 20 or more persons under the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 section 14A.
A press pass means nothing in the UK, it IS illegal to impede your lawful movement, those officers need to find new jobs.
Aaah, the criminal justice act 1994. One that original ravers will remember.
@@PST101 Is it the one where it describes what dance music is lol any sort of freedom scares the shit out of govenment
@@PST101 Still valid law, includes amendments over the years.
All valid points. Thank you for sharing. That sgt was literally begging for a civil claim and a reprimand. Disgusting attitude, and gross incompetence.
@@WorksopGimp yea 'repetitive beats' and as posted above, gatherings of more than 20 people (illegal field/warehouse raves). Basically killed off the original rave scene 88-94 (house/hardcore). Like you say, government couldn't handle the freedom, and the fact they weren't getting a cut of any of it including all the ecstacy that was being sold. Obviously no one was drinking at these events. Lol. There was actually a good documentary on the BBC in the 90s about it. Hopefully it's on CZcams.
*edit: search CZcams for 'criminial justice Bill 1994 BBC doco' 😉
Great f*cking times. 😎
21:21 Police drone pilot. Approachable, knowledegable, informed, polite and helpful. Well done PC drone pilot.
"Don't go launching no drone...." That's a double negative which could be interpreted as "Launch a drone." This shows the usual intelligence and education of a police sergeant!
GRAMMER NAZI ALERT!!!
Perry Mason used to ask the opposite questions all the time "Did you not ..."
If you ain't got none, you must have some !
Once again police ego prevents the Sergeant from doing the right thing. It must be awful not having a reverse gear for your own opinion.
That what 20 years of pushing people about and telling them what to do based on your own opinion does to you ….
He's a self important tyrant.
There is nothing more fragile than a cop's ego.
It's called being a Labour voter
Proves the incompetence of the police. ‘I’ve been doing this 25 years’ ….means nothing
Can't teach an old dog new tricks never rang so true.... Times have changed but he hasn't 😂
5 years too long then
25 years of getting up and going to work and not knowing very much. And we pay for these morons. Astonishing that a dimwit like him was able to pass the Sargents exam. Truly staggering
He might have been doing it for 25 years " but he's been doing it wrong for 25 years 😅
How many years did Wayne Coussins do; not in jail but in the force ?
Frightening when the Police don't know the law.
They dont need to since they are above the law.
Your average police officer is thick as shit and doesn't have a clue about the law.
They're clueless and increasingly hiring tiny blonde female officers who are also useless enforcing the law physically.
To be fair though who gives a fuck about laws of a toy
Don't care about the law more like
They know the law , they know they can make up anything they want and the courts will protect them
It's mad that crime has become so rampant in this country, yet the police dedicate so many resources to stopping a tiny protest.
The protesters are supporting a terrorist association. The police are gathering intelligence on who's who.
Ego battles.
The female that laughed, then immediately denied it, despite being aware she was being recorded, was equally as bad as the sgt that was literally begging for a civil claim and a reprimand. Disgusting attitude, unprofessional behaviour, and gross incompetence. Excellent work DJ. There’s a reason why you’re the top auditor. Thank you for sharing.
Really....I doubt she gave it a second thought.....😅
She works based on emotion opposed too professionalism she was clearly bullied and not liked by anyone at school just a nasty vile pig 🐖
don't forget that she was chewing gum, and the other cop was wearing sunglasses. both are against met policy
@Tracy Thank you. All decent humans recognise the difference between right and wrong, and the total lack of integrity that’s all too common to cops.
Police are lying f*cks.
That drone guy was spot on. He clearly knows his stuff. I wish all police were like him. Breath of fresh air. Listened, communicated and allowed lawful activity where everyone was happy
Exactly. Why isn’t he the Acting Sergeant instead of that ignorant buffoon?
100% as he has had to do the courses to fly a largers drone, and as part of that it covers the law inside out. Would make sence for all officers to do some kind of cutdown A2COC course and that would give them the education they require to work allongside drone flyers who are coorectly following the law.
I admire your tenacity and ability to remain polite and calm when dealing with those who insist that their assumptions are law.
Tenacity or arrogance??
Maybe the Sergeant thought you had to 'assemble' the drone 🤣
Airfix model, with glue.
he had his own definition in his head i was like its in plain english.
@@havisionfitness864 It's worth gathering the information. ie. Assembly is 20 or more.
@@Nickle314 lol seems to be paying off give him another 20 he will be on top of it
Nice one! 😂
I really liked this one. They do talk out of the a**es sometimes. Threatening to abuse their powers because they don't want you to fly your drone, and on camera. Imagine what they're willing to do "off the record"
The thing that I find strange is that as long as they don't plan on breaking the law themselves, it actually helps to have as much footage as possible in case something serious happens. Police should actively welcome being recorded. It's just wrong-uns who don't.
Sometimes. The Sgt's knowledge of the law needs investigation of all previous cases he had a hand in.
Imho
They did nothing but abuse the powers they have, even when it clearly stated on the section 14 paperwork who it involved.
If it looks like corruption, it probably is.
Every time there's a protest, and there's a business, they don't seem to mind crossing the line into unlawful arrests. It's like they're briefed to do so. From what I've seen on videos like this.
Kudos to the police drone operator who was both well informed and respectful
Unbelievable , the tone of that acting sergeant was unreal . Started losing his temper and they all chipped in with attitude . No wonder people have no time for them .
Extremely dangerous sgt.
He should be stripped of his powers immediately. 😱
He just makes his powers up anyway.
Should be alot worse than that
The day you meet a truly dangerous, corrupt cop… well, I dread to think what you’ll want to happen to that officer 😅😂😂
@@REALCrazyCritic
I’m not sure what your getting at….I have met more corrupt police than this one and have only wanted them to be held accountable for their misconduct 🤷♂️
The sergeant in particular is used to bullying people by threatening to arrest them, even when they aren’t breaking the law☹.
One of the most interesting and respectful interactions I've seen so far on these channels it shows you get what you give in all respect it's all for safety so it's worth the argument
Amazing how a member of the public…knows more than a police sergeant…
Not really. He knows more about a tiny part of a single piece of legislation relating to a specific topic he is interested in. I’d imagine the sergeant knows a lot more about the general law than this muppet.
He also didnt know about the drones as he kept arguing for the sake of it. He believed he could walk past barriers just due to having a union card any muppet can get hold of. People having a channel on youtube. Believe they can do what they like. Evident here. Partake in any event if i film my friends birthday. Ive attended so i have partaken in the event. To partake just so dj understands to be involved. If i walk into a shop and i buy an item i have been involved in buying an item. If i film a street then i have been involved in filming the street. So yes the police bang to rights with this jester haha. He didnt get his way and people talking about drone rules. The seargant stated you couldnt fly drone from where he wanted and he didnt. So i mean was the seargant wrong.
‘I’ve been in the job 20 years!!’ In my opinion that’s half the problem. I’ve said it a thousand times and I’ll say it a thousand more ‘nothing but a glorified gentleman’s club’.
with a pension
The filthy folks boy club... nothing more
Early pension
Yet when a crime is committed against us, our first course of action is to call the members of this "glorified gentleman's club" to protect us as the public.
Just shows the irony.
@@ravenchunter usually police are a last resort to be fair.
It’s a shame these police officers don’t understand the law. That sergeant is full of himself,
Acting Sgt …
He's certainly full of something.
The law, they never let the law get in their way.
@@loverman1645 Yep, it is called manure
Police officers don't understand law if they did they would of become lawyers
Your card is an NUJ membership card which is different to a NUJ press pass formally recognised by the police.
He knows that, he just wants a reaction, more content, more argument in aid of making his video longer and more worthwhile
And ?
@@REALCrazyCritic And ?
@@REALCrazyCritic That is what he does .
@REALCrazyCritic You do realise that he does not need to show anything at all. If the cops knew their jobs, there wouldn't be a problem.
Well done DJ a know it all sergeant good on you standing your ground 👏
Imagine how many lies that Sergeant has told throughout the years and things he’s covered up and gotten away with.
And all she could was just laugh when she didn’t have an answer or knew that she was in the wrong……what a horrible bunch!
The threat of an unlawful arrest is considered an Assault without battery under English Law.
Britain is still SO much a serfdom. "Section 14 in place, cant go there"... basically the ruling class can decide when you can go to certain public places and when you can't. Its shocking
“Don’t be launching no drone!”
Been watching too many Hollywood cops movies!
The Drone guy. Absolute chad.
The Sergeant, new nickname. Beaker.
Seriously though, it was astonishing the different ways the two guys talked to you. One saw you as _'a pleb to be told what to do',_ the other as _'a fellow human being'_ Not even necessarily the content of their speech, but just the character of it.
100% and most likely because the drone pilot recognised that DJ has the qualification required and was only trying to do his job within the legal parameters set out in legislation which he himself is more of an expert on than the sgt who doesn’t understand or know the legislation and more importantly is not used to people “not bowing to his stripes.”
@@cuddlybear_uk I think the very last part of your comment is most pertinent in this case... But I don't disagree.
To quote The Prodigy (or whoever they samplelled)!
_'What we're dealing with here is a total lack of respect for The Law'_
Oh shit... done it now, now I have to listen to it!
Pecker 😂
@@carlhartwell7978 (or whomever they sampled!)
@@SpeccyMan Fucking _Nick_ picker! 🤣
You missed the lowercase D in 'done' though! 🖕
That’s why I love this channel, it educates the police more than anything else! Can’t believe he didn’t have the decency to apologise to you.
No they won’t apologise it would stick in his throat
@@annkeddie3370
Hope the incompetent idiot chokes on it.. 😂😂😂
A policeman apologise...ha ha ha!!!!!
Really, you can't believe it?
'E's 'avin' 'is lunch ie. crow
Alot of people would watch your channel and think your being a bit awkward but its valuable work and heres why... you are documenting the fringes of our freedom. It is possible that the law are closing the net on outlr freedom without us noticing until the net is tight... it is good to find these boundries now and challenge them on our boundries coz we dont want the net closing
The original bill of rights that we all gain freedoms from has for years and years been slowly adjusted to remove our ability to speak, move and overall live our lives.
The issue is very much far larger than people know it to be.
The police don't help themselves at times but they are not the enemy.
But no one wants to step forward to tackle this because they become a target by far more powerful bodies than the police.
Anyone thinking the UK isn't a socialst country needs their heads checking. We've lost our rights around the Blair era I think earlier than that maybe.
But the police are only doing what they are wrongly informed. None of those officers wake up and think they want to be difficult that's a given.
All western countries are under attack for their freedoms and are slowly losing them one by one.
Good video, you are calm and educated. The sergeant needs another round of police schooling. Embarrassing for the sergeant to act this way in front of his peers.
8:48 she definitely laughed, she has no respect for the public
Twice she did it, childish….
Women police officers are horrendous
Plod's on good form for the first half :) Shame about Mr High-Horse wanting to throw some weight around. Glad you got the drone up in the end.
Think the pathetic miserable testosterone pumped anal retentive was just showing off to his girly pc ......
Lmao imagine using a union card and thinking it’s a press pass 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 so embarrassing
That Sgt was the most ridiculous I've ever seen - absolutely unbelievable.
'How many unlawful arrests have you made' 🤣🤣brilliant question.
Great work as always DJ, thank you.
Sergeant was a complete dickhead
You took his threat of violence towards you quite calmly.
That sergeant haha "am a little teapot short and spout, here's my handles while i use my spout.
They need to look in to the attitude of the police force on how they treat the members of public
That police drone pilot was spot on.
thankfully, some common sense with the drone flying officer , nice 1 DJ 👍💪
Did you see the excitement on those cops faces when they thought they had your personal details. How sad they didn’t get their fix
Amazing coverage of that thing. Really cool to see the police procedure and your own story trying to find a loophole to do what you want to do. Most people would have just given up in one second.
You handled that how I would like to see all Auditors behave, well done, you were polite and sincere and used the law, communication and discussion to work in your favour and without insulting anyone you made some officers look a little suspect which isn't a good look.
I’ve been doing this job (badly) for 25 years
Great content again man
Dear God this lot would cause an argument in an empty room 😂
Police advice , “don’t go flying your drone.”
Peoples advice “stop guessing”.
Why did the sergeant not just swallow his pride and ask the police drone operator to speak with you in front of him, it's always confrontation instead of following the law what's permitted.
Because of his over inflated ego!
Because he has never had to. YOU WILL respect my AUTHORITY.......
Sgt went to lick his wounds and have a good cry after he called his mummy
😂😂😂
Well done DJ another brilliant video made 🎉🎉🎉
Sgt. Bilko... Why couldn't he just admit he was wrong, instead of throwing his weight around with threats... The drone guys were bang on. Well handled DJ great video.
This is prove that sergeant clearly struggles on a basic level, anything he now does or claim as a cop can be easily challenged and dismantled in court and criminals will walk free.
Highly educational, thank you
Oh I love it when a plan comes together for you!
Well done for sticking to your guns DJ , also a big well done to The Police Drone operators for adding common sense and legality to the event.
Just shows you that knowledge is power. The police officers who had absolutely no clue come off as pretty stupid, while the drone guy was respectful and knew exactly what you could do. Communication is the key and police officers need to start speaking with eachother nowadays rather than just pretending they know the ins and outs of the law.
Tbf, they were right about the press card.
The sergeant gone because he feels like a right tit head 😂
They could also at least 'aim' to engage with members of the public from 'more' of a position of equality, rather than a position of power. The difference between the two main interactions in this video.
The police are supposed to be 'drawn from the public' but still be 'of the public', so as to police the public from within. Not 'apart from the public' over the public. That was the original intent of The MET.
@@geoffcarlton4047 it was a pointless argument. A press card means nothing. Anyone could walk down that path as long as they weren’t part of the protest.
@@DMC888 good point
Hi I’m new to this channel I think it great. Do you ever take things further when you got stopped by so call people in authority?
Oh nice! I checked out the
NUJ card and it turns out the police officer is correct. Can’t be used in the fashion DJ here was attempting!
Love
The content as always!
yeh but thats the point of an audit, to test the police's knowledge of the law, he was close to getting away with it
Your instinct about the drone officer knowing the law in more depth was spot on. You managed to find a way through a difficult situation with absolutely no offer for help to do the same from the sergeant.
Read about the ABC report on a year 2000 Court case in the US where the Court backed a Police department which was banning recruits with too high an IQ....
The needed dumb cops because the bright ones are a waste of training...the bright ones leave within 2 to 5 years.
With this happening worldwide...
the dumb recruits of 20 years ago are today's Sargeants.....
as evidenced above.
The Police state is well and truly upon us and the people of this country just let it creep up on them and let it happen without any serious protest, and in fact assisted it by their voting habits and general ignorance. That scruffy Sergeant was absolute scum and needs removing from duty ASAP as he was far too willing to infringe on your rights and had no clue about the law, in fact, he seemed to rather enjoy it. The drone guys were spot on, but then again were probably selected for being more intelligent than the average dumb copper.
And yet they put tasers in the hands of even the unintelligent officers!
@@SpeccyMan ah, but Tasers only hurt members of the public so why would they care about that? Expensive Police owned assets such as drones on the other hand need careful handling. 😀
Too bad you gave up your guns...
This is very true. The legislation clearly states the restriction is for people involved in the protest. I’m pretty sure that wouldn’t include someone taking photos or the person walking a dog.
Yet the police decide that this includes everyone and they would use violence to prevent anyone crossing that line. The convictions wouldn’t stand up in court, but that’s irrelevant, as the police get their way.
@@DMC888 yep. Court doesn't matter. You still get the scum throwing you to the ground and stealing from you and imprisoning you, regardless of the law. With absolutely no accountability. And the cowards know it.
What scanner do you use DJ
Amazing how aware they are if Section 14 being in play. Almost as if they’ve been given a new toy to play with, and abuse.
Excellent audit DJ. Looking forward to part 2. This is where your strength lies. Staying friendly, educating whoever challenges you. Your strength is not with the group of auditors you hang out with in your last few videos. They are a different kind of auditor, with different purposes.
DJ I agree with this!!!!!!
I agree, never been a fan of mass audits. It quickly turns aggressive as everyone tries to outshine each other.
Sometimes it’s good in difficult situations to have a video from a different angle. The recent News Now Yorkshire video with TORBS was helped by 2 angles. But I agree that often it escalates the tension.
The "wrong kind" of auditor.
You don't understand auditing at all, best wind your neck in before embarrassing yourself further.
Section 14 can be so easily misused that it makes a mockery of the law and justice and the right to protest.
That's the idea.
They abuse them all
The Sergeant has said 'No way José'!! 😂😂😂 Funny guy! 😂 😂 😂 Good video 👍
With regard a press card, which you didn’t have. The NUJ offer this advice to members on their website.
“If you are asked to show your card by a police officer or other appropriate authority, then you should do so without debate.”
But if you had done that, you don’t get the CZcams content you are after.
They will learn one day when that orange bike rolls up they gotta stay clear haha 😂
Is it possible to do a freedom of information request to see if this Sergeant has made any unlawful arrests in the past?
It's hardly a good impression of his professionalism. The institution will cover for him and make any unlawful arrests lawful. So even though he is a corrupt scumbag, his professional record won't truly reflect that.
That police woman looked like one of those fish they put in fish tanks to clean the green slime off the glass.
I had a Section 14 notice once that excluded me from a whole postcode (CH2) for 48 hours, after taking photos at the end of a protest.
Interesting subject and video! Great work at keeping calm.
At least the drone copper was halfway good
First account was a zero and the drone operator was a 10. Great interaction with the drone operator's. Thanks for sharing DJ
In this context operators is a plural and, as such, it requires no apostrophe.
@@SpeccyMan You are going to have busy time on this platform.
@@Cybertruck1000 How do you comfort the grammar police. There Their They're.
@@bryanbuttery5082 It just seems that nowadays you would be pissing in the wind pulling people up on their grammar. All credit to anyone that is a stickler and attempts to correct though.
I used to work in an industrial steel mill and had to wear the boot guards. We were told they are called metatarsal guards. They are supposed to have the same safety ratings as the steel toe boots.
So much respect for you Sir.
17:41 on Rocks.22:51 was Priceless.
The UK is rapidly descending into a police state :(
If you're not aware that it has been for a long time, you've not been paying attention.
It’s not. If it were, these types of videos wouldn’t happen
When the drone cop said "I know who you are" it was a real turn point in the video. Well done DJ for standing up to that other lot. There's only one word to describe them, and its a word I also learnt in the east Midlands - MARDY
Kids are mardy, that sgt was a first class 🔔 end.
Acting sergeant, acting the clown. These people are so insecure they will not listen, their corruption is disgusting. A very sad little man showing his permanent "Napoleon complex ", known informally as small man syndrome, who is permanently butt hurt by people with a greater knowledge.
Well done DJ for not letting them intimidate you.
That looks like Tiber way I deliver down there, as there were no lorries around was this at the weekend?
25 years and still a sergeant. Means he's only fit to reach that rank. "Don't go launching no drone" Who in their right mind would take such eloquently put advice. This was an interesting one. I learned the definition of a public assembly. That drone pilot was a pro too. Respect to him.
It's worst then that, the other copper referred to him as Acting Sergeant - the fact his colleague included the prefix 'Acting' is quite telling.
Brilliant attitude and tenacity when dealing with goons who think their word is law. You are a citizen journalist.
You know there’s no such thing as a ‘citizen journalist’. It’s just a made up term.
DJ knows he’s not press but just trying his luck.
He's not a journalist he's a low level CZcamsr he's practically nobody with a camera he's just a clown that likes to annoy police and other people doing honest work
"UK Press Card Authority - It is wholly owned and collectively controlled by the UK’s major media organisations, industry associations, trades unions, and professional associations. It is the only card issued in the UK to be recognised by the police and other emergency services, government departments and many private organisations."
So the major news organizations and are the gatekeepers and the only one recognized by police in the UK. What absolute crap!
In the US, the people are the press as well not just news agencies. There is no official press pass issued by any government agency in the US. Not one.
Excellent ✔ I'm against weapons so i'm happy you covered this. 👍🏻
Love it when you meet a know it all in uniform welldone DJ
I had the same problem trying to get into MI5 with my Blockbuster Video Membership card!
@8:34 it quite clearly says in several places it applies to A an "ORGANISER or B person TAKING PART IN THE PROTEST" . Press is neither A nor B
They absolutely had your trousers down here 😂😂
@20:03 sergeant is making many inferences (probability's)
The sergeant does not have the power to make an inference (x3)
only the courts & jury can decide that , not the sergeant .
and we wonder how we are policed today when he is a ""line manager""🤔
fair play to the drone constable 🙏👍
Probabilities is the plural of probability!
Heart warming listening to the police drone guy. Just shows that you make a difference.
No power trip from that guy. Did D.J meet him in another video? He looks familiar.
The drone guy was informed and reasonable in his instructions 👍. Showed respect to a citizen not breaking the law. The seargent was just a robot, you can’t do this or I will invent a law that you’re breaking. His ego is exactly what makes him a bad copper. Should be retrained at the very least on how to speak to citizens rather that the big I AM RIGHT 🤷♂️
Thank you for another evenings entertainment.
Thoroughly enjoyed this video . The drone cop was pleasant.
Look how stressed the sergeant is. How can we have somebody like that on our streets?
This is the general problem I have with the police, Sergeant was just so arrogant, my way or no way and just was not listening, two way communication is key to to gaining any chance of public confidence but still so many are stuck in the 70's us and them mentality. Promote the cool drone guy he has the right attitude 👍
The Sheriffs of Nottingham. Way to go Robin.
Just shows people differ, and the drone cop was sound. Great pictures
This Sarg is out of his mind man, if he's NOT having a bad day and that's him on a normal day, he needs to be demoted or fired.
full ego mode from them PC's all jacked up ready for a fight.
That was a great video as usual. Apart from really knowing your stuff, I am really impressed with the drone footage. Amazing photography, crystal clear, pin sharp pictures. I'm almost tempted to get one myself. What's the make and model and did it come with that camera fitted? Do you have to have 'flying lessons' before being let loose? Excellent work again!!! Thank you.
Why is it that the law abiding citizens have to pick up the bill for policeing of these protests about time the people who march pay the police bill ! Freedom of expression has a price to pay 😢😢😢😢
Hi 'Boot Protectors' are Metatarsal Guards, stop anything landing on top of the boot from breaking the metatarsal bones....
Weren’t the police breaking section 14 since they, according to their reasoning were involved in the protest.
Nice observation there. 👍
I also thought that. If their definition of being involved is so loose then yes they were all involved.