Is This Old Stihl MS170 Chainsaw Worth Fixing?

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  • čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
  • This old Stihl MS170 chainsaw has many problems but the main complaint is it bogs under load. It's never seen any service, and this video shows several tests and procedures to get it back up and running again. The same principles apply to most any two-stroke lawn and garden gear made by the likes of Husqvarna, Echo, Red Max, Shindaiwa, Craftsman, Ryobi, Poulan, and many others.
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    00:00 I'm not Tom
    00:55 Overview of problems
    02:20 Remove and clean muffler
    04:24 Clean spark arrester screen
    05:20 Compression check and piston check
    06:22 Remove carburetor and linkage
    09:29 Remove and replace fuel filter
    11:09 Disassemble carburetor
    15:46 Replace fuel inlet screen
    16:13 Replace fuel pump
    16:36 Replace needle
    18:23 Replace metering diaphragm
    19:28 Pressure and vacuum test crank seals
    23:15 Replace carburetor and linkages
    25:39 No joy in Mudville
    Wear your safety glasses, or you'll shoot your eye out. Try on some gloves. Take off that spark plug boot. Clean your room. Open the windows, those fumes are nasty. Just 'cause I do it, don't think it's the end all, be all solution. There's plenty more ideas out there, I can't take responsibility if you slice off a few fingers after watching my videos. And don't just pour that toxic stuff down the sewer or in the ditch, dispose of waste responsibly. Just be safe, OK?
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Komentáře • 208

  • @TheLawnmowerLady
    @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 4 měsíci +16

    DISCLAIMER: In my haste of reassembling this saw for the umpteenth time, I assembled the metering diaphragm side of the carb with the gasket flipped. This will cause flooding. However even if assembled in the correct order, this would not address the gaping hole that was sucking in air on the worn intake manifold boot at 26:24 The correct order is carb, gasket, diaphragm, cover. My sincere apologies for any confusion this might cause.
    If this video helped you, please consider clicking the $THANKS button above 🙌 Watch this video next to see how I fabricated my pressure/vacuum tester: czcams.com/video/HbSbugUHTxA/video.html

    • @jimbrewer2893
      @jimbrewer2893 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Compost happens. You corrected it.

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@jimbrewer2893 😹

    • @mrparlanejxtra
      @mrparlanejxtra Před 2 měsíci +2

      While a new saw might be the go, a new intake boot would fix it and it would do another turn. Having put all the parts into it, it seems a waste to throw it in the parts box. Why not fix it and buy a second new saw?

    • @Wanous-hv7zo
      @Wanous-hv7zo Před 2 měsíci

      Put a fully adjustable 025 carb on it

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 2 měsíci

      @@Wanous-hv7zo that works too, but that wouldn't fix the worn intake manifold

  • @wayneberry8703
    @wayneberry8703 Před 4 měsíci +6

    As soon as I saw that exhaust I knew that the spark arrester was fully blocked, lol. The rest of the saw was a real mess. As usual you’ve done a great job and very thorough.

  • @garys8754
    @garys8754 Před měsícem +2

    As a MS170 owner for the past 6 years who has performed basic maintenance on my saw, I found this video very informative and well done. I’m at the point of having to perform some of the maintenance shown here so what I learned will be put to good use. A tip O’ the hat to you.

  • @G.I.JeffsWorkbench
    @G.I.JeffsWorkbench Před 3 měsíci +4

    Wonderful job talking us thru what you did & why you did it. If I was in your area, I’d drop off my small engines for your patient repair. Since i’m not, I appreciate your taking the time to show us how it’s done. Thank you!

  • @hickorystx
    @hickorystx Před 4 měsíci +3

    Stella, this was absolutely the best video I have seen in a very long time. The detailed narration with rationales was over the the top for me. BRAVO!!!! How you kept it all together with all the tiniest of parts and assembled with confidence was simply breathtaking. I am so impressed with your cool demeanor, confidence and expertise. You are one of those special people that makes this country great!! Thank you so very much for sharing your projects. Whomever provided you with this challenge should be thankful for your skill and expertise, including your physical dexterity!!! What a PRO you are. God Bless...! 😀

  • @BearE9090
    @BearE9090 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Great tip on how to preasure test the crank case. Thanks.

  • @ghostdevill
    @ghostdevill Před 2 měsíci +1

    I love the MS170 ! I own 2 off them and some bigger versions. But these tiny saws never let me down! Just clean them good after use and they run for years.

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Take good care of anything, and it lasts a long time. I appreciate you watching.

  • @BrucesShop
    @BrucesShop Před 3 měsíci +3

    That bottle of pinot grigio helped.. Thanks for taking us to school Stella.

  • @robertblacksmith4355
    @robertblacksmith4355 Před 4 měsíci

    Friend gave me his Stihl weadeater & shindaiwa blower in that condition both needed tune ups both work much better now great video Tom!

  • @HobbyMotorDK
    @HobbyMotorDK Před 4 měsíci +2

    Good video Stella - it clearly shows the amount of work and frustration associated with repairing low cost chainsaws - thanks for sharing this.

  • @dad2ni
    @dad2ni Před 4 měsíci

    Excellent videos. Thanks!

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 4 měsíci

      And a huge Super Thanks from me for supporting my channel! I truly appreciate you watching my videos. Cheers!

  • @nashguy207
    @nashguy207 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video Stella. I hate working with the linkages on a chainsaw. I love my Vessel screw drivers. I have a mighty vac 8500 kit and it is very handy. Have a great day!

  • @thomasmagiera3283
    @thomasmagiera3283 Před 2 měsíci

    wow! That was sure a lot of time consuming effort. Great Instructional video. I really enjoyed that. Thank you.

  • @tuberocker69
    @tuberocker69 Před 9 dny

    Great work!
    Your explanation in each process helped alot!
    I have a little 170 that I pair with my 261.
    They are pretty good little saws for what they are.

  • @STTC
    @STTC Před 2 měsíci

    Wowsers, this video flew! well done on this one

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 2 měsíci

      I honestly wish I knew why, LOL. Thanks for watching. Cheers!

  • @donmoore7785
    @donmoore7785 Před 2 měsíci

    Oh snap! I was waiting to see a great running saw, after your excellent repair work. Personally, I did something really foolish that led to the demise of my MS250, same age as the MS170. I bought a new one, and have the original for parts... Great video.

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 2 měsíci

      You and me both! If it were my saw, I might have fixed it, but I don't blame the owner for pulling the plug before repairs got expensive. He now has a great parts saw. That piston was in great shape. I appreciate you watching. Cheers!

  • @barryballbag2361
    @barryballbag2361 Před 3 měsíci

    Great video thanks Tom

  • @andersforrad
    @andersforrad Před 4 měsíci

    Nice video and thanks for sharing. I totall agree, sometimes is just not worth it and you gotta know when to hit the brake. Nice video and goor thoughts as always. Cheers! 👍

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thank you so much Anders! I appreciate you watching.

  • @HomeGaragechannel
    @HomeGaragechannel Před 3 měsíci

    I like your pressure tester, I need to get one.

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 3 měsíci

      It's a great diagnostic tool, let alone a good brake bleeder for my scooter. I've already purchased the MV8500. I've gotten my money's worth on that old kit.

  • @joerhea5785
    @joerhea5785 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Another great video!!

  • @jonlambshead5115
    @jonlambshead5115 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great Job , Well Done

  • @vailaulau5938
    @vailaulau5938 Před 2 měsíci

    Good job.i want to learn more❤

  • @rickthelian2215
    @rickthelian2215 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I thought that at the beginning Stella, being $199.00 a Stihjn shop would of charged an arm and a leg plus parts-
    Best path is to replace and keep old one as a parts machine😊

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 4 měsíci +2

      I think a happy customer at the end of the day is a good thing. Thanks for watching.

  • @edwardsabo8368
    @edwardsabo8368 Před 4 měsíci +6

    When you showed the piston going up and down it looked like there weren’t any piston rings on that piston.

  • @hickorystx
    @hickorystx Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thanks!🙏

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 4 měsíci

      Whoa! Mr G!!! It's my pleasure. Super thanks to you for supporting my channel. Cheers!

  • @Rein_Ciarfella
    @Rein_Ciarfella Před 4 měsíci +1

    I have a clamp on vice I put on my outside bench any time I have a muffler like that. I burn off the spark arrestor and the muffler completely. The muffler always produces a lot of smoke and flames up a bit when the carbon starts to burn. I keep going, into both sides, until it stops smoking. Does a thorough job in a fairly short time.

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 Před 3 měsíci

    I have seldom found a new lifter lever to be improperly adjusted. I always use every new part in a rebuild kit, including the spring. Did I see you put the gasket on the pump side, first. The diaphragm goes against the carb body on the pump side and then the gasket. On the metering side the gasket does go on first and then the diaphragm. I use a Might Vac for pressure testing.

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yes, did you read my pinned comment? Mitivac is a great tool for small engine diagnosis.

  • @tracythompson1692
    @tracythompson1692 Před 4 měsíci +1

    good advice

  • @hubby-tubadventures01
    @hubby-tubadventures01 Před 4 měsíci

    "Tom" re the mityvac, I had one delivered about 8 hours ago after seeing the rave reviews. I have a dud. Box is internally battered and it holds no pressure or vacuum. The dial is all scuffed and I think they sent me a second hand unit. No user instructions BUT the warranty was present. Yet to do my return request as I got too busy watching your vids. Keep 'em coming.

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Dang! That's terrible. If from AMZN, yes there are often QC problems with returns. I hope you get a good one soon. I already bought one, no regrets. Thanks for watching. Cheers!

    • @hubby-tubadventures01
      @hubby-tubadventures01 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@TheLawnmowerLady Yep AMZN, have been good overnight but i have ordered a new one and instructed them to contact the company and perform QC and better packaging. AMZN gifted me £10 but I just wanted what I ordered. HeyHo, I have to wait another fortnight.

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@hubby-tubadventures01 Score! A £10 discount.

    • @VintageEngineRepairs
      @VintageEngineRepairs Před 25 dny

      Sorry to hear that mate, that sucks :(

  • @spyder000069
    @spyder000069 Před 5 dny

    Gave up too early on this one. I suspect the spark arrestor was only issue and the throttle arm fell off when he was monkeying with it. The symptoms match up exactly and I have personally ran into that problem a few times before. Excessive idle time and/or heavy oil mixture does it and was also indicated by the spark plug condition (although the spark plug was still fine and would have cleaned up). The later problem of it not running was caused by the carb rebuild which was probably identified after talking to the customer and the decision was made to go new. I don't suspect the intake boot because it held vaccum with no problems and if there was an issue it would have showed up there. Even if there was a tiny issue a light smear of rtv would have solved it but I don't believe it was necessary in this case and feel the vacuum test proves that theory. The saw had great compression and it was a xmas gift from a parent so while financially more labor sometimes doesn't make sense the sentimental value may.

  • @ianlaconianhthesmallengine124
    @ianlaconianhthesmallengine124 Před 4 měsíci +1

    No I'm not Tom. I'm the lawn mower lady. Nice work.

  • @ILOVEMACHINES225
    @ILOVEMACHINES225 Před 4 měsíci

    great video

  • @timvoiss1568
    @timvoiss1568 Před 4 měsíci +2

    You might want to put a rag or something blocking the exhaust port when cleaning to prevent anything from getting inside.

  • @pracakosaipilarka4301
    @pracakosaipilarka4301 Před 4 měsíci

    Respect 👍

  • @Dicofole
    @Dicofole Před 2 měsíci

    Great detailed video, thanks for sharing.
    What is your opinion of clone chainsaw kit and of the cheap Amazon chainsaws?

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 2 měsíci

      I appreciate you watching. I think you nailed it on the head… Cheap, and near about disposable. There’s far better quality in an established brand as well as the follow-up customer buying it from a local shop.

  • @cathymuehring893
    @cathymuehring893 Před 3 měsíci

    Glad to find your channel. I love my Sthil 170 but exhaust has been wet since new. I threw away the spark arester. Is it OK to spray that brake cleaner in the cly and wash away the lube ?

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 3 měsíci +1

      If you do that, you'll need to add a few squirts of 2-stroke oil in the cylinder, pull the starter to get those rings we'll lubed. Expect it to be a little smoky when you first start it. That brake cleaner will flush out all the good stuff. Thanks for watching.

  • @josephchamness9915
    @josephchamness9915 Před měsícem

    In the UK for the Carb Manifold the OEM 1 is $20 and the cheap ones from China about $3 to $7.

  • @noelstractors-firewood57
    @noelstractors-firewood57 Před 3 měsíci

    That’s to bad after that work it didn’t operate Stella. Any way, that’s the way it goes, have a great weekend. 👍🏻👍🏻👋👋

  • @luvegg7890
    @luvegg7890 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great useful video.. I think you may have put the metering diaphragm gasket on the wrong side of the diaphragm causing the needle valve to open early.. Sorry if I'm wrong..

    • @KensSmallEngineRepair
      @KensSmallEngineRepair Před 4 měsíci

      You ARE right! Gasket first on Metering Diaphragm side! Will cause flooding!

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 4 měsíci

      Yikes! I'm busted.

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thanks for pointing that out. I did pin a comment to address this. This chainsaw was a multi-day challenge, (wrong parts arrived, multiple days I could not work on it blah, blah, blah) and if you notice that glove I'm wearing only on my right hand, I slammed my knuckle trying to start it the week before. I'm not saying this is any reasonable excuse for this oversight. There are often hours of video takes to get a good camera angle, or decent lighting. And we all make mistakes sometimes. This would not fix the gaping air sucking hole due to the worn intake manifold boot (26:24)

    • @Rein_Ciarfella
      @Rein_Ciarfella Před 4 měsíci

      @@TheLawnmowerLady
      It’s True Confessions at Stella’s! 😂👍❤️

  • @shane3878
    @shane3878 Před 2 měsíci

    I have had mine for many years and abused the living heck out of it. Using for roots and stumps with carbide chain the last few years. Still runs like a top. But the chain started coming loose quickly. New bar, chain, sprocket and adjuster. Same thing. Loosens up after a couple revs. Shaft is spinning visually true with no binding. Last thing I'm gonna do is change the cover since these don't have the bar bumpers like the bigger saws. 200 bucks for a new one so not gonna put anymore money into it.

  • @haneyoakie14
    @haneyoakie14 Před 4 měsíci

    Tom! That is Vintage! 😊❤

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I use a .25” drill to seat the inlet screen in its hole.

  • @RaysLaughsAndLyrics
    @RaysLaughsAndLyrics Před 4 měsíci

    (Not a task 'anyone' can see to complete success.) Tom now at an impass;
    Rubber gasket B trash
    Dick is no help as well,
    Failed, no time 2 dwell
    Harry does concur
    A new saw, fer sure!
    Stella: Another great repair video showing the reality of small engine repair. Thanks for your valuable time and resources, so generously shared with us. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thank you!!!

    • @RaysLaughsAndLyrics
      @RaysLaughsAndLyrics Před 4 měsíci

      @TheLawnmowerLady BTW.. a thumb ring is a reminder that ride sharing need not involve an APP✌️👍

  • @Turningwrenches85
    @Turningwrenches85 Před 2 měsíci

    Sometimes on the parts cannon you gotta know when to cease fire and retreat , this one was more better off cost effective wise a parts machine for him well done stella 🔧

  • @luxbeci2
    @luxbeci2 Před 3 měsíci +1

    What is it pressure méter maschine What you use pressure text in carburator and engine?

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 Před 3 měsíci

    Use Purple Power to clean saws with an old tooth brush and compressed air. This saw has been used a lot with bad fuel and left to sit a long time with ethanol fuel in it from what I can tell. The only way that throttle rod came off is for it to be removed by someone. I use Walbro or Zama parts on my saws. Sten makes some good parts but I do not use them unless they are all I can get, which is not usually the case. My MS 170 is sitting out in my shop loaded with Stihl MotoMix. I would bet money it will not run and it has been a year since I ran it.

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 3 měsíci

      Actually that throttle linkage can pop off when the choke lever is forced around that barb sticking out that engages the linkage into the 1/2 choke position. When that happens, the small bend in the linkage pushes around to the wrong side of that plastic barb. The linkage then pops off the throttle on the carb body when you move the choke handle past the 1/2 choke position into the off position. The same thing can happen if the choke lever is forced into 1/2 or full choke position without engaging slightly on the throttle.

    • @johnclarke6647
      @johnclarke6647 Před 3 měsíci

      @@TheLawnmowerLady you mean if someone forces the control lever out of its Norman stepped position the throttle rod can disengage. I have never had that to happen but I know how to crank a Stihl saw. I have about 20 of them.

  • @hillbilly4christ638
    @hillbilly4christ638 Před 2 měsíci

    Someone brought me a saw like this. The boot between the carb and the cylinder had a crack in it, leaned out the mix and fried the piston and cylinder. I sourced the parts and they cost more than a new saw. I found it kind a play on words, Stihl, steal. I was working on old school saws without the boot that were still running and just needed some maintenance. Very interesting, anti vibration turned into vibrating that dudes money out of his pocket. Yup, steal.

  • @Big_Johns
    @Big_Johns Před 4 měsíci

    Well Tom you can't say you didn't try, nice explanation as you went along though.
    Amazon has the same MityVac MV8500 for $88 instead of $125 from Walmart. 👍🙂

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Thx! That AMZN link is in the description. The pop-ups changes regularly. Thanks for watching.

    • @Big_Johns
      @Big_Johns Před 4 měsíci +2

      Guess I better start reading the descriptions huh. 🙈🤣

  • @joehead1294
    @joehead1294 Před 3 měsíci

    There's a pile out back of every small engine shop composed of residential equipment like this. Owner could have taken better care but he knew what he had. Used hard, put up wet.

  • @gonojo6527
    @gonojo6527 Před měsícem

    These are chainsaws for occasional use, it was probably never truly maintained as it should have been. That being said for everything you put into it depending on where you are and how some places price gouged you these chainsaws are selling for $200 and many places less so I would go with the new MS 170 at your local Stihl dealer not necessarily or Ace Hardware or anything else that marks them up.

  • @chuckhuff7123
    @chuckhuff7123 Před 3 měsíci

    Looking like you'll need to put a longer pull start rope in that saw😮

  • @cancelchannel3394
    @cancelchannel3394 Před 3 měsíci

    I would have built that little saw into an animal, stihl products are always worth the effort and money to rebuild 😊

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 3 měsíci

      If it was mine, I probably would tear it down and replace that intake manifold. Hard to justify that expense to a paying customer. I appreciate you watching. Cheers!

  • @cancelchannel3394
    @cancelchannel3394 Před 3 měsíci

    Tin Man in Canada would have turned that little MS170 into a beast of a saw 😊

  • @user-ss5gs2jt8u
    @user-ss5gs2jt8u Před 2 měsíci +1

    Fire it up elkskins the Legend Taryl no body Beat 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 p.s. Taryl wood have figured that out and saved this man in Alot of different ways😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

  • @filip100s
    @filip100s Před 3 měsíci +2

    At 18:35 wrong order of diaphragm and gasket...😢

  • @Vipex134.
    @Vipex134. Před 3 měsíci

    If this plug is bad, you should see my plug. It is very VERY oily. It has to be tho because my piston is scored and it has about 1.2hp from an 1.9hp

  • @luxbeci2
    @luxbeci2 Před 3 měsíci

    Why you not use Pascal and Bar pressure méter test? I use Bar my Stihl 880 and Stihl 171 and Stihl FS560 and Stihl HS45

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 3 měsíci

      PSI is most common for pressure and and inHG (inches of mercury) is used for vacuum.

  • @alext8828
    @alext8828 Před měsícem

    18:52, Why does it look like there's a carb passageway not covered on that pump cover? I'm not familiar w/ these carbs so excuse my question please.

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před měsícem

      If I recall, that's an alignment stub. It doesn't pass through.

    • @alext8828
      @alext8828 Před měsícem

      @@TheLawnmowerLady Ah so. Makes sense.

  • @shanehanlin9253
    @shanehanlin9253 Před 13 dny

    See this is what I want to see a regular person doing this stuff she isn't using anything that the everyday person doesn't have

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 11 dny

      I appreciate your observation. I try to make my videos accessible to the average homeowner that may not possess all the speciality tools that often make the job easier. Thanks for watching. Cheers!

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 Před 2 měsíci

    A Champion plug is not the Stihl factory plug for this saw. It should be a Bosch plug. Bad gas is the most common two cycle problem. Not running them wide open in wood is another problem. They are made to operate at full throttle in wood. Failure to do so will block the spark arrester screen.

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 2 měsíci

      Champions are not shabby plugs. I can't say the same about Torch or E3, they go directly into the bin.

  • @Rein_Ciarfella
    @Rein_Ciarfella Před 3 měsíci

    Hey, Stella! Thought you might want to see this comment I read on James Condon’s channel today.
    “@comeasyouare4545
    48 minutes ago
    Build a shaker, or tumbler for gas tanks. An old cloth dryer makes a good one. Just disconnect the heating element. Drill holes through. the drum to suspend the tank in the center at four points solid cooper wire. Number 12 should do.”
    Maybe time to scrounge one of those old dryers people throw away because they don’t heat anymore? 😉👍

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 3 měsíci

      If I lived on a farm, maybe. I’m sort of landlocked, and live in a tiny house, LOL

  • @Kyle-bb9zp
    @Kyle-bb9zp Před 2 měsíci

    It's worth fixing but lot of work had to go into it to make it a lot better

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 2 měsíci +1

      If it was mine, I probably would fix it. But cost prohibitive for a client.

  • @almclean4835
    @almclean4835 Před 3 měsíci

    Can’t win them all. I’ve just recently worked on a ms170. It wouldn’t start, easy fix. Just had to put the plug back into it, somebody had taken it out and not put it back in !

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Haha! If they were all that simple... I did get a Honda mower one time... the owner complained it would start easily, run OK for about 3-4 minutes. Turns out she was turning the fuel tap on for about 5-10 seconds, while she checked/added fuel. She then turned the fuel tap off, and then started the mower! SMH

  • @Vipex134.
    @Vipex134. Před 3 měsíci

    In my opinion, the MS170 & 180's mufflers should be drilled out, this plate in the front of it should be widened with a flat head screw driver and all that to make it run a bit better. (i think it does help but i could be wrong)

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 Před 3 měsíci

    Use Moto Mix in it.

  • @luxbeci2
    @luxbeci2 Před 3 měsíci +1

    What problem this Stihl 170? You not know setting carburator Jack? I have Stihl 171 and Stihl 880

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 3 měsíci +2

      There are no adjustments on Stihl MS170 carburetor. What problem with you?

    • @luxbeci2
      @luxbeci2 Před 3 měsíci

      @@TheLawnmowerLady Why you say What problem with me??

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 3 měsíci

      Your comment sounded rude and condescending: assuming I don't know how to set the adjustment screws on a 2-stroke. Why call me Jack? Is that shorthand for I don't know jacks**t ? There are no adjustments on a Stihl MS170 carburetor. What do you not understand about that?
      Even if there were H and L screws, no adjustments would over come the massive air leak presented by the old and compressed intake boot. Did you watch the video till the end? Further repairs would be more expensive that buying a new one.

  • @PJBHolden
    @PJBHolden Před 3 měsíci +1

    Trash the spark arrestor entirely

  • @brianking1138
    @brianking1138 Před 4 měsíci

    This is why so much cheap equipment gets thrown away. My local shops charge $90 per hour. Throw in a few parts and you can spend more than its worth really fast.

  • @haneyoakie14
    @haneyoakie14 Před měsícem

    You doing ok Stella? I miss your awesome content and your can-do attitude. I hope you are just too busy to post videos right now.

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před měsícem +1

      Working on it Tom! Just on a little break. I appreciate you checking in. Cheers!

    • @haneyoakie14
      @haneyoakie14 Před měsícem

      @@TheLawnmowerLady I worry about my peeps. I’m happy to hear UR OK.

  • @davea5150
    @davea5150 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Maybe the gas mixture was to rich, just a thought.

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I think just years of neglect. The only reason it was running before I cleaned it up was it was so clogged up. It was getting air through the manifold leak enough to idle, but the screen was so clogged, it died

  • @greenkeeper448
    @greenkeeper448 Před 3 měsíci

    Opti-2 to the rescue.

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 3 měsíci

      Interesting. I had to look that up. Do you use that in your 2-T gear?

  • @alext8828
    @alext8828 Před 2 měsíci

    That air filter is hard as a carp! And there's yer dinner.

  • @rickthelian2215
    @rickthelian2215 Před 3 měsíci

    Stella aren’t they only $199 new ?

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 3 měsíci

      Yep! I showed some ads towards the end. If it was mine, I might have fixed it.

  • @campervanjimbob3764
    @campervanjimbob3764 Před 3 měsíci

    Crank seals

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 3 měsíci

      Nope, that's what I showed when I blocked off the intake. The crack seals held pressure and vacuum.

  • @DIYVariety
    @DIYVariety Před 4 měsíci

    Great job but cant win them all

  • @bradpotter6401
    @bradpotter6401 Před 3 měsíci

    As much time as you had invested in this saw, you should have finished the job and replaced that seal between the carb and cylinder. I wouldn't have charged the guy any extra time because it's something that should have been done when you had the carb off for rebuilding. That's just my 2 cents worth.

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thanks for watching.

    • @bradpotter6401
      @bradpotter6401 Před 3 měsíci

      @@TheLawnmowerLady I failed to mention in my earlier comment that you are a knowledgeable mechanic and I like your technique. I use old gas as my cleaning solvent too.

  • @user-ot4dc9lk5d
    @user-ot4dc9lk5d Před měsícem

    Great might keep those grandkids off those iPads

  • @stevenbelsky1652
    @stevenbelsky1652 Před 2 měsíci

    I don't understand why people spend all this money on equipment and don't do general maintenance on it.

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 Před 3 měsíci

    That is not the factory plug for a MS 170. It should have a Bosch WSR6F in it. The owner is lying about his saw.

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Granted the owner has never taken it to a shop for service in its lifetime, but calling him a liar is a bit harsh. I don't think changing a spark plug, or replacing the chain (which he as done) really moves the needle here. I drive antique 2-stroke motor scooters, and I don't consider swapping out a spark plug on the side of the road as service or maintenance.

  • @MaximRecoil
    @MaximRecoil Před měsícem

    The owner should just buy an electric chainsaw rather than another Stihl MS170. I think that electric chainsaws have made low-end gas chainsaws more or less obsolete. Gas may still be king for professionals, but they aren't the ones buying $200 chainsaws, and they know how to maintain them. For someone who just uses a chainsaw for occasional yard work at home I think they'd have better luck with an electric one.

  • @CompetentSalesUSA
    @CompetentSalesUSA Před 4 měsíci

    May need gloves when spraying carb cleaner . Not good to get it on the skin.

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 4 měsíci

      I often forget, it is a good idea.

    • @philliphall5198
      @philliphall5198 Před 4 měsíci +2

      If it was that bad after a life time of mechanic work I would not be 73 and cutting firewood all day

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall5198 Před 4 měsíci

    I just set the muffler on fire and let it burn it out

  • @ronwilliams266
    @ronwilliams266 Před 3 měsíci

    It's always better to repair the older equipment. Tere just built better. And people need to know how .some day you may not be able to buy a gas-powered saw.

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 3 měsíci

      I agree, especially if it was my own saw, I would likely complete the repairs. But I would be doing a disservice to my client if my parts/labor for the repair exceeded the price of a new one. I appreciate you watching!

    • @ronwilliams266
      @ronwilliams266 Před 3 měsíci

      @TheLawnmowerLady I've always been a fix it my self kind of guy.one of meny things my DAD tought me as a kid.im now in retirement age I should have more time. And you're welcome. I like watching clips that have good information. Tha k you.

  • @stephenthomas8517
    @stephenthomas8517 Před 3 měsíci

    Looks like he is using bad gas and the wrong mixture.

  • @jameslovering9158
    @jameslovering9158 Před 3 měsíci

    That poor saw looks like its been abused !

  • @alext8828
    @alext8828 Před měsícem

    Very disappointed that after all that, he needs a new saw. What a waste.

  • @briansmith611
    @briansmith611 Před 2 měsíci

    NEVER... EVER use gasoline as a cleaning solvent

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 25 dny

      Why not? Service manuals for decades suggested this exactly. What do you think is in a petroleum based de-greaser?

    • @VintageEngineRepairs
      @VintageEngineRepairs Před 25 dny

      The best cleaner out there 🤣

  • @Kyle-bb9zp
    @Kyle-bb9zp Před 2 měsíci

    People that don't want to take care of there gas powered equipment. Should just buy battery powered equipment. This saw is horrible I have a ms170 my dad loaned me. Way better shape it's 5 years old. People got money to burn in my opinion.

  • @davea5150
    @davea5150 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Why do you have a ring on your thumb? That has to be uncomfortable!!!

  • @jgbelmont
    @jgbelmont Před 4 měsíci +1

    NO. Go buy a MS360

    • @TheLawnmowerLady
      @TheLawnmowerLady  Před 4 měsíci

      It’s a step up for sure.

    • @jgbelmont
      @jgbelmont Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@TheLawnmowerLady In my experience you will save money buying bigger pro saws. I burn those little ones up. Always someone sticking it in some thick hardwood it was not meant for. Pro saws are far easier to service also.

  • @bradzimmer239
    @bradzimmer239 Před 2 měsíci

    One of the worst saws I ever owned, and have zero regret having sold it.

  • @jimlongstaff5580
    @jimlongstaff5580 Před měsícem

    Ther's an artery on your thumb it's the main digit for your hand loose it you are f--ked listen to me I have rainards syndrome in my hands i'am 71 and having real trouble

  • @Wanous-hv7zo
    @Wanous-hv7zo Před 2 měsíci

    They are worth fixing