Truck driver: Log books altered in deadly I-64 crash
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- čas přidán 17. 03. 2024
- The driver of a tractor-trailer involved in a deadly collision 15 months ago on Interstate 64 told investigators that his company had a method for altering electronic driving logs, according to a report from the National Transportation Safety Board.
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Trucking is not far from slavery
40 MPH on an interstate and you wonder why you got run over!
@@johnstecz9169wow REALLY!
You volunteered! Smh…
i retired after 27 years and i felt like i was on Probation for 27 yrs
brother i know what u mean , its a life sentence , my whole life is eat sleep shit trucking and when i go home im just getting reading for the road , i take a week off twice a year , i want to do something fun this year , just have to see how it goes lol i said that last lol@@alanlangley7246
I'm a truck driver , there are few things company or driver falsifying log book , appointments for pickups or deliveries , punishment (huge fee) for showing up late , end of the shift hard to find parking , stores or businesses posted signs "NO TRUCK PARKING" , truckers get parking fines , many rest areas closed for no obvious reason just closed , so what driver or company do ? , alter logs and keep going , driver gets tired , stressed badly and outcome is an accident , it's ridiculous
Some businesses don't like trucks on the premises because of messy drivers , agree , I see it , so to find out the way penalize those dirty ones badly , nice ones don't deserve to be harassed because of the bad ones
That's a serious issue
Driving decades you make excuses for no excuses. Preplanning is key.😊
@@Lickmyface , sorry , you don't know what you talk about
@@user-bp5bq6ek6eactually, he's spot on. Punish bad actor companies like the criminals they are. Unfortunately, drivers don't have the power they need to say no. Hold bad actors accountable like the FAA does to the airline industry; if drivers were paid better and their rights were enforced by government agencies, there wouldn't be as much risk taking that goes on now.
@@user-bp5bq6ek6e liar
Do you speak ,like you write? You no American. What country are you from?
I've worked for a variety of truck companiesfor ten years from mega carriers to small fleets, local and OTR. Every single company has a minimum expectation that you operate on the threshold of legality/criminality. Anything less and you are undesirable and a bad egg. That line is set at 70hrs/week. They want you to be on that line every day of every week. If you come in below it, you are performing poorly. If you go over it, you are a criminal. 70hrs exactly is practically impossible to achieve due to the many variables... traffic, weather, parking, shipper/reciever delays/etc, so everyday you land on one side or the other. What the driver here did was wrong. What their company did was wrong. But make no mistake, the standard in this industry forces every driver to straddle that line, or quit, as so many new drivers do.
I was told by a dispatch once . Are you ready for a week of 700 mile days.
My company wants me to work hard but they have no expectations that I get close to my 70 and if I stop because of fatigue they’ve never said a word to me about it. There r companies out there that care about safety but they are pretty far and few between
@@darylb5564 I've driven for several carriers in my 20 years but there is one that I was with for a total of 11 years. Once I got a really sweet run from Pleasant Prairie, WI to Compton, CA. Normally when I planned a trip I could pretty much do that in my head except for this one time I was glad to get this. Somehow I miscalculated my available hours to do it legally. I run the load and was recalculating and realized I wasn't going to have the hours to make it. I run it anyway and got caught by the log dept. Long story short they reamed me a new one and shut me down for 34 hours.
You are wrong fuel haulers do 40 to 60 hrs a week home daily
@@brandonpittman5243 wow okay guess we can all just haul fuel then, problem solved haha guess i was wrong 💯🤙😎
Most people have no idea how tough it is to drive for a living. Im a drywaller and its a hard job but trucking all day is exhausting and extremely dangerous
40mph on an interstate is not safe and we all know that, now did he have his hazard lites on to warn others??
Those bus sometimes have a set speed. Sometime the company put it that way so driver don’t speed with passengers
@nickcooler2658 Yea I understand but they govern them at around 55 maybe 60 but on any interstate it is illegal to drive at a slow speed I believe anything under 45mph by law you need Hazzard lites on.
I wondered the same thing
Sometimes the buses aren't exactly road worthy either, have seen it many times.
I was taught if you’re going less than 10 mph under the speed limit to flip the flashers on. Just a good practice to let people behind you know that you’re moving slow.
Proud to say that I'm a dispatcher at a company that's absolutely militant about not altering logs or going into violation. We'll adjust ETA's, purchase hotel rooms, or do whatever else to avoid having drivers half asleep on the road or breaking the law. We spare no expense to put safety first.
I am glad to hear that. I drove from 1996 to 2008 for Schneider. They were serious about safety, believe it or not. They may have lacking in driver training, pushing students out after only a few weeks of training. But over the years I was there they kept getting stricter and stricter about log books and hours of service. In 1996 you could almost run two log books , by 2008 when I left E logs were on the horizon and your log had to match everything perfect. Tolls , fuel stops , satellite tracking , etc , etc.
How many hours are your drivers working?
@@StumpyVanLife Did they pay reasonable wages. The only other way that's possible that I can see. If its union work by the hour. As far as Iam concerned its all about employers input and how much they willing to pay for certain hours. Many in this OTR trap aren't making dime crooked companies abusing drivers expecting them tirelessly working without sufficient breaks or fair wages. Everyone loves capitalism it too has its thresholds. People shouldn't be trying to kill each other over bread and feeding a family. Sometimes it seems people like making a elephant out a fly. But honest truth truckers do try to be the safest "sh't happens". Out of the hundred millions of miles driven accidents do happen.
@@jamesgordon7608 They paid a "decent" wage. It also depends on what your definition of a decent wage is. I left in 2008 , my last full year there I made over 70K. Keep in my mind that was 2007 dollars. I had also been there 12 years, so I had a very good dedicated run and was also a road trainer. Only reason I left was I had a medical condition pop up and disqualify me.
@@joevick7655all of them!
Offshore log book data. What could possibly go wrong.
Kalinka transport report them
It's very, very, very common and it has been serially reported to FMCSA for years and they haven't done a thing about it except issue computer generated complaint numbers.
WHY WAS THE BUS GOING 40MPH ?????????? IT'S A HIGHWAY ⚠️☠️
A lot of trucks and busses go slow at night then during the day it’s like nascar
As long as they were in the right lane all good; many possible causes such as mechanical issues or a hill are some but other circumstances like animal activity or someone cutting in front of the bus traveling slower also.
Why does it matter how fast they were going clearly these former Soviet Union companies are known by many drivers of doing this with logs and think they will have no repercussion from it by keeping the logging department over seas and greedy drivers allow them to do this
@@raymondkidwell7135 on interstate 40 going towards clarksvill Tennisee at night the smei trucks go fast im from central California the smei trucks they go 55 on highway 99 I meant speed limit 55 sorry for any misspells or mistakes in spelling.
Because people who drive like this cause these accidents. Slow drivers CAUSE ACCIDENTS. You're not careful, you're incompetent. Give up your license and stay off the road.
Impossible to find parking for rest, EVERYWHERE is NO PARKING AND CLOSED OR INADEQUATE REST AREAS NOW⚠️🤬🤬
Yea they need to have the military or sumn go build some rest areas
@@LV-dm6vnWhy tf would the military build rest areas. How about someone who works in construction?
This country doesn't invest into transportation, especially trucking. It's almost impossible to drive truck in US and be legal/rest enough.
@@Avery_308 Army corps of enguineers
@@Turk_2023 The army combat engineers are not going to build rest areas bro. That’s on the civilian side.
I've been on E-logs for over 5 years now, and the company re-arranges things whenever it suits them. I diligently sign and certify my logs daily, and then once in a while, I need to go back and re-sign and certify logs that I had already signed off on more than a week ago, because somebody in the safety and compliance department needed to shave down some hours or minutes in order for something that's coming up, that I'll be the last person to know about it. Well, first of Jan this year, I quit going back and re-signing anything that I did not personally edit, and know nothing about. I'm just waiting for the moment when I get pulled in for an inspection, and the guy says... "Hey, you didn't sign your log on such n such a date", and I tell him, "Yeah bud, I sure did. Somebody did some editing that I was not made aware of, and I'm not signing something that I did not do myself. Don't like it, go do a facility audit at our office."
Thats why this whole industry is the laughing stock and driver are made a mockery of. I got out of OTR when the ELD's were mandated 2017. I honestly expected the industry to have some sort of a crash or reset. Instead everyone just invented new tricks and the show went on without missing the beat. Then all the sudden new companies started popping up overnight with 3000 new trucks. And of course the new cool thing would only to be a lease with absolutely no experience or even a clue about the industry. Helplessly walking around truck stops asking "Where the dipstick for transmission mister".
@@jamesgordon7608I know where that is. In carburetor! 😉
@@carlosnorris352 Right. The story is in the shop. Road side mechanic went out on a road call to diagnose Diesel Engine. Shop puts him directly on phone. What seems to be problem. Mechanic replies "Its a carburetor problem". That was all shop owner needed to hear.
It's very, very, very common and it has been serially reported to FMCSA for years and they haven't done a thing about it except issue computer generated complaint numbers.
More companies need to pay by the hr. not my the mile ! I was a contract driver for usps and we got payed hourly ! That included weather conditions - traffic jams - break downs etc ...
Yeah if they pay by the hour people drive slower.
Teamsters! Drivers were treated fairly when the OTR drivers were Teamsters.
@@abc123lov7slower is safer it's not debatable.
Stuff would never get delivered.
@@CpnwezeThen you fire a bad lazy driver. It works but many companies are too greedy
Who the hell would go 40 MPH on a freeway? That is an accident waiting to happen. And it did.
Doesn't matter how slow, if the truck driver is paying attention, you can notice a slow driver a mile ahead.
This trucking company better get a good lawyer and a new insurance company because the lawsuit that follows will be a nasty one.
The company is headquartered outside the country. They will shut down and open again under a different name and carry on.
@@James-ol6rw Thats one way to skirt the laws. No rules to follow abuse your drivers drive down the spot market rates.
Truck driver is going to jail maybe some people in office who allowed him to run team while solo driver . I ran up behind someone doing under minimum speed limit car was doing like 30 mph in a 70mph zone few nights ago fully loaded luckily nobody was in the left lane beside me Semper Fi
Yep, happens all the time. They'll aquire a small company if they haven't already and consolidate under the other little company. @@James-ol6rw
My heart goes out to the family members affected by this tragic incident. When wavy 10 was initially reporting this, they also reported that the driver of the party bus party bus and the company who owned it were being investigated. Wavy reported that the driver of the party bus allegedly had a suspended drivers license and a couple of prior charges. They also reported that the party bus had been modified which limited its drivability and only allowed the bus to travel up to 40 miles per hour. The driver of the 18 wheeler initially said that the rear lights of the bus were not on making the party bus hard to see until the last moment. Apparently, many things were wrong that night on both sides. I’d like to hear the other side of the investigation.
Ok that’s all new info but why was the bus only traveling 40mph on an interstate
40 miles per hour on freeway without emergency flashers on?? Bus is at fault most likely
As a former driver myself, one thing I know that seems to not be being mentioned here that is of all the interstates I ever traveled on had MINIMUM speed limits posted. 40mph is below every one of those that I know of. While this driver is going to be crucified for this crash, I can relate to his situation. You are pushed to make deadlines and you are threatened with losing your job if you fail. On top of that, driving long hours at night can lull you into a state of mind that is of half awake, half asleep. Then you have this bus driver moving way slower than regular traffic down the interstate at well below the speed limit and this is the results. There is no one thing that will prevent these types of accidents. This accident falls on many shoulders the way I see this particular crash.
If he wasn’t falsifying his logs the blame would be on the person doing 40 at least in a sane world. It is hard to judge speed in the distance and takes a long time to stop. I have seen a lot of semis tap a car’s bumper because of this not enough following distance because they hit their brakes and didn’t stop in time but to run over and kill someone that slow of a reaction he must have been half asleep or distracted
You have got to stop this nonsense of blaming everyone else but the trucker. Nothing is going to get fixed if you don't start holding the bad semi drivers accountable, nothing!
Obviously he wasn't paying attention for whatever reason so the blame id definitely on him. That doesn't mean the driver of the bus shouldn't be cited for driving under the minimum speed of the interstate. Obviously both people are at fault.
@@chrisstromberg6527 I don't know what world you live in. Everything is blamed on the trucker. Companies will mitigate their liabilities by leasing truck trailer to new drivers. With lot of false expectations. Yes this whole industry is built on false expectations. Its why you have a brokered system so the shipper can get faster and cheaper deliveries without ever any burden about the drivers concerns or the public. You ever hear about broker/shipper raising concerns about parking or even the basic facilities like restrooms. No you have not. Its a broken system for many drivers out there. Some have it good for others its worse than slavery. Unfortunately to many people are taken advantage and suckered into these traps. There is no need to not be able work legally and earn a good wage. But that would be then called "Communism" not Capitalism. So maybe it isn't the "Drivers" fault. Its capitalism fault and you don't like. Then many proud people in America will proudly say "Kiss My Ass". You want Unions. Drivers will get plenty of pay, facilities, parking and most importantly respect of the industry.
Everyone are to be blamed
-Country for not providing enough rest areas
-transportation for counting loading truck as an hours on duty
-Companies for being greedy and pushing drivers over limits
-Drivers for being greedy and pushing over the limits
I am a driver and yes a lot of companies do it I drove for small carrier a few years ago and my dispatcher was a retired SC highway officer and he was close to the worst one I have ever had .there was two other drivers and they never stopped and if I did take a sleeper berth he would call me and ask what I am doing and expect me to get rolling now yes there are a lot of companies flaseifing logs
Interesting that they say the truck companies IT center is in Lithuania. I know people in the industry there (ex spouse) It's nice and distant and not reachable by US legislation.
More lies...pay these drivers a decent wage
Yep… companies claim they want safety.. but it isn’t true
You cannot doctor elogs
@@tylerbuckley4661 absolutely can't doctor if you had paper comic books anymore. Cameras & geo location fencing is keeping track. You run illegal that's on you. No one makes you be a fool.
You choose.
@@tylerbuckley4661 yes you can
@@tylerbuckley4661 we were going e-log But we still have paper logs
I thought this was exactly why ELD 's are mandatory
He has an eld. Its setup as a two person team. He is both people on the team, in the eld.
Most log books are doctored.
Paper logbooks are no longer used except in case the e-log malfunctions. E-logs cannot be doctored by the driver. If this driver was to be pulled into a scale and have his logs examined the officer would know it.
@@williamjones4483 EVERYTHING on a computer can be doctored kid. Smh…
@williamjones4483 I still run paper logs. The Benefits of having a glider kit.
@@_DB.COOPER yup I had a feeling when they started talking about e-logs it wouldn't take long to figure out how to get around them
@@_DB.COOPER Right. Well, thank you for thinking I'm a kid. Unfortunately, I am at that stage of my life where I wonder quite often just how many years I have left in this world. Oh, don't talk to me about computers. I work on them.
Regardless of all the factors that go into Trucking right or wrong, if you falsify your log books and something really bad happens you as the driver are going to be crucified.
Driver is just as much at fault for doing it!!!
Might be , but , if driver will refuse company's demand they might not get a load and they be staying here there , no driving no money , that's how companies kicking out drivers
You just cant make good money anymore as a truck driver. All the regulations they enforced to make it "safer" was only to hurt the drivers, owner operators & companies. It didnt make anything safer. I also like when there is an national emergency or disaster then all of those safety regulations go out the window. So what, do people's safety on the roads not matter then or is it not really about safety at all? You can't have it both ways. It isn't about safety at all. Its about controlling the supply chain, hurting the whole trucking business & the economy. I still have a CDL A license & was all about the OTR until they started that E log. I got out. You used to make good money doing it & now you cant. Pay is crap now because you cant hustle now. I used my license to land me another job making great money but driving a truck is only once & a blue moon. Its like 2% of my current job is driving a B class truck making old school hustling trucker money & not really having to drive. I drive a pickup truck everyday at work.
@@user-bp5bq6ek6eabsolutely wrong. I been driving decades the fact is no one forces you to behave illegally. You choose.
@@MercedesE63S-AMGbeen otr decades the fact is trucking never been great money unless you think one eye open doing coast to coast!! The pay is stale now just more sitting. Legally 2500 miles a week for 7 days at .65 per Mile is a good rule. U sleep alot now. Nothing extra for 8-10 hour in dock or breakdowns. Foreigners have destroyed trucking. Only big difference is everything on the road is in the cab of the truck. No more sit down restaurants. More violent now.
@@Lickmyface 👍
The deal here is responsibility. Period. When you put yourself behind the wheel of any vehicle regardless if it is a class A B or C, you are assuming the responsibility and the risks out on the roads. When you lie or cheat the system designed to protect everyone you take on the consequences of your actions. Playing the blame game does not work.
Ain't the only eastern block trucking company here doing that.
You folks gave operating authority to all sorts of em' ......good luck
I am sure he is not the only that is doing it
Pay the Drivers by the Hour and problem solved !!!!!!! I bet the companies stop forcing them to do that type of stuff then.
Getting loads to a location on time isn't worth taking the risk of being negligent. Your life and the life of others are too important to risk. If a company wants you to take illegal shortcuts then it's not worth working for that company. BE SAFE DRIVERS!
45 on an interstate is a little slow
Except in Cumberland,MD or Birmingham,Al. 😊
Oh but shoot , that couldnt be a factor could it? Gotta be the Trucker.
Actually he was going 40mph.
Drivers remember it’s your responsibility to protect your CDL no one is going to do it for you
Yup! I drive tow truck. A lot of my coworkers over the years have been willing to take risks (overweight, sketchy loads etc) and I do not. They know I'm "by the book". I just tell them "If I get into a fatal wreck and stuff isn't right with my truck i will be the one trying to convince a judge of my innocence not you" plus I have a clean driving record and I'm always looking for my next job.
This is happening all the time with these European companies and is indeed a safety issue and deserves serious investigation
In any accidents that involves a semi, 99.9% they are looking to blame the truck driver, if the lazy buss driver were using hazard lights ( for going under the minimum speed limit), there would be no accident
Rip to to all who passed away. But we cannot ignore that a bus was going 40 mph on the interstate??? The minimum speed on the interstate is 50 mph. This is on the bus driver.
Virginia law does not prescribe a fixed minimum speed limit, although a statute does authorize the posting of such limits where traffic and engineering studies indicate that they would be appropriate. So the question is: was there a posted minimum?
@@CVSoprano Driving Too Slowly in Virginia (Va. Code §46.2-877) punishes driving at such a slow speed as to impede the normal and reasonable flow of traffic. However, the statute prohibiting driving too slowly in Virginia does not apply to slow driving in dangerous road or weather conditions.
I dont know why companies fake the electronic log books. It can all be tracked because it is all computerized. You might be able to fool it a lil bit but when something big happens like this DOT have computer guys who can see everything you did. It isnt worth losing your company over.
There’s a way around eld also.
Because they are based out of a foreign country. They hire American drivers and think the driver will take the fall not the company. And the cops do nothing to hold the company or its executives to account but they will leave a driver to rot in prison for life. And if you as the driver stand up to the company they will black ball you and you won't be able to get a job anywhere!
@@halstonmann8676 Well yes you ran like 5 different paper log books. I was taught how to do it but it seemed like there were less crashes back then because there was less pressure on drivers. The drivers knew their limits of what they could do & not do physically. Now there are so many regulations you must follow, forced to take breaks when you don't need a break & so on. Then you have to figure out ways to make up for lost time. Truckers are smart enough to make their own decisions & don't need the government guy sitting behind a desk somewhere to tell him what is safe & what is not. Truckers know their limits. Everyone is different. Plus like I said in emergencies or disasters all of those "safety regulations" go out the window & you drive to your personal limits like the old days. So if it's OK to do it & it is safe for motorists on roads when the government says that it is but why isn't it OK & safe for motorists on the roads all the time then? If they would just let drivers run like they know they can all the time like they do in emergencies then everything would get delivered on time & more stuff would get delivered. Truckers, trucking companies, businesses & consumers would all be happy. Truckers make more money. Would probably lower prices some on the goods. Businesses would probably make more money. Just wins all around. There would so much much less stress on the entire supply chain. I think it is all just another page in a book of the government wanting to control over everything. The government never knows what they are doing but wants their hand in everything. Reminds me of dispatch & office personal telling truckers how to do their jobs. They haven't a clue & they are just making it 1000 times harder & God knows you can't tell them that. Let the Truckers truck & you just set at your desk & staple some papers or play with your spreadsheets on your computer. While I'm telling everyone about stuff I think is stupid I want to also throw out there the in cab cameras that watch you as you drive. Dash cams are ok but not watch the driver cams. You scratch your nose, remove your hat to scratch your head while you drive or etc it is all distracted driver violations that count against you & any kind of safe driver bonuses that you could receive but you don't because itched your nose or had a runny nose & wiped your nose 3 or 5 times in a month. I guess to get your safe driver bonus you are just supposed to let the snot run all over your face. Safe driver bonuses are a scam. I mean wtf, are we not adults or what? OK, I am done complaining about why I stopped being a otr truck driver.
Doesn't matter. These Eastern European companies shut down tonight, reopen tomorrow with a new 20-digit DOT number because it was just issued yesterday
Something also up with that bus driver going that slow, he should be in trouble too.
Altered log books? No way! Never woulda guessed... I for one would never do such a heinous thing 😉
Safety cost money and a handful of companies (not too many companies do this, just a small percentage) cut corners to save a few bucks. When things go wrong it's always the driver being thrown under the bus. I've quit a few companies because of this practice over the years.
There MANY companies that falsify logbooks! Almost every Russian company does. And most are around Chicago
Transportation/governmennt are the worst.
Not enough rest areas/truck stops to rest.
No trucks signs are everywhere
No enough time to drive after they load your truck 5+hours etc.
It's almost impossible to be a legal on the road and make some money.
My condolences to those young people's families.
What a tragedy.
With what the driver has revealed, I hope the families of the victims sue the trucking company out of business.
See what happens and the things they do to hide their suspect behavior the company showed him how to do it the cops need to look further into that it's a lot more missing pieces
Lithuania. Russia, Serbia, Estonia....these are the countries that most of the derilict trucking companies operate from.
Drivers think, their above the law.
They become repeat offenders when they get away with the practices, that it now becomes part of the operational routine.
Gross negligence death occurred from the accident, maximum fines, lost of operating authority, put them out of business.
@@ljreed8671bs
Like Super Ego
Absolutely 💯
And they are all based out of Chicago.
Why is the bus driver doing 40mph on the interstate?
Did the bus have it's warning flashers on? Why was it going 15 mph under the posted limit? How was the lighting, weather, and visibility? Come on news people do your damn job. The log book was not driving.
The best part about the Elog. The federal government approved the Elog company to be certified for use probably knowing it was able to be altered.
I guess I'm leased onto a good company since I have never had to fudge logs. If your company asks or insinuates that you do anything illegal, find another company. It's your license and ass on the line.
I’m a truck driver and whether or not the company he drives for falsified his logs the driver is ultimately responsible for the operation of that truck. The driver was well aware that the company was altering his logs and made the choice to drive anyway when he knew he should be parked. Both are at fault but it’s going to be the driver that does the prison time while the company ends up with a lawsuit. This isn’t the only company out there that does things like this. A lot of those Chicago based companies do the exact same thing. I can’t wait until I get tf out of this industry later this year.
The log book definitely took the wheel
Falsifying logs and the end result was a triple fatality crash. Someone is going to need a dam good lawyer for this one.
Not advocating lawlessness but the rules set up drivers to fail. They prevent drivers from making an honest dollar when they require unpaid labor (such as waiting at loading docks or traffic) to be logged as on duty thus counting against your on duty time. I retired in 2017 and have never looked back. It wasn't just the logging rules that prompted that but the driver facing cameras that companies were putting in their trucks which was the last straw.
I'm 25 + years in the business....e logs is a truck driver best friend.....his A is grass!! And I work for a grade A company..
Good companies are few and far between. Unions seem to offer good wages good hours. Union dump trucks in area can be making 45hr plus overtime benefits. Not impossible but few and far between.
Basically I repeated what they told me to say - they said - that he said.
Driver did what is called a split birth break. You can do a 7/3 or an 8/2 to split your 10 hr break!
Was he driving in his "BIRTHday suit"??? Get your spelling right (not "rite" BTW)...it's BERTH!!! Give me break...
truckin is crazy and all truckers say that 100 times a day, there is no peace , we try to win the battles but we cant win the war , just try to make it home at some point
"First Student" a large school bus corporation here in NY CT MA all tell there drivers NOT to go over 55mph even when the posted limit is 65 and traffic is going close to 70 and those busses are in the way all the time on magure highways going slow on purpose risking YOUR CHILD'S LIVES. your children would be safer if the bus was going with the flow of traffic instead of becoming an Obstacle for thousands of cars and tractor trailers to try and get around...
The driver is allowed off duty driving which he should have claimed to be legal. If he is going to the yard he is seeking a safe haven. I hate one sided news stations and why I just dont watch the news anymore. Why does youtube recommended this big lie to me.
It's always going to be the truck drivers fault. It's ok for passenger cars to drive 24 hrs a day and nothing ever said
Lot of companies are doing this sad
I think dosen't exist a company who will no do that to their drivers , that's why i'm an O/O so nobody could told me when i got to drive when i know my limits ...sad
The sad part is the driver will still probably go to prison. When you hold a CDL you are ultimately responsible for what you do behind the wheel. Allowing a company to make you do something illegal is being complicit.
I lost my ass big trucks Literally have to wear suspenders now to keep my drawers up.
Every truck driver in America has fudged his/her logbook
There's absolutely no way I could drive a truck for eleven hours a day, let alone more than that. I'm absolutely wrecked tired after driving 7-8 hours when I go home a few times a year lol.
40 mph on an interstate highway? Why?
Was I the only one that thought that was a tank from the thumbnail?? 🤷🏻♂️😂
You'd be amazed at how many independent trucking companies do this and will ask drivers for permission to alter their clocks before they even hire them. If you say no they will not hire you.
We truck drivers are the most mistreated workers in the United States yet we keep bringing your stuff to you.
All these justice warriors want to crucify any and all truck drivers they possibly can. But when it comes to paying a little more for shipping. All the sudden they get so weak at the knees, they start losing their breathe stuttering. Truck driver wants to demand more for his rate and a place to park and facilities like restrooms.
I quit otr...I do local now the disrespect isn't worth it anymore
@@GEVINCHYGAMEZlocal is worst.
Good point.
Moral of the story: Pull over when you are tired. Take a 30 mins nap = 10 coffees •/•
When the rate per mile is shitty and cant afford paying your bills, you have to drive 24hrs.
Because the truck drivers told the truth sue the hell out of that, Trucking company
I was a truck driver for 42 years and it was go go go piss on the DOT if you get caught lie lie lie.
He better hope that he isn’t proven guilty, if so then he’s going to prison at 61, well 63 now.
While it is up to the driver to record in the log book, I know firsthand that some companies request/ demand drivers cook the books. I think it is high time that we start investigating these freight companies and holding them just as accountable as a driver in accidents.
Kalinka transport
If this is true, the fines will be massive and carries places out of business. 👋
Not enough drivers , but can't pay enough to put drivers in the seat
How can you not tell you're gaining on the vehicle in front of you?
No one will say that its mostly these companies that are from the Chicago area and are owned by foreigners
40 mph is a Hazzard, why are they ignoring that
Put the company out of business
Log book didn’t cause this accident even if it was falsified.
Exactly. Doing 40mph on the damn interstate caused this crash. Let’s trash talk the trucker and the company because the idiot driving the bus was stupid. Typical news media!
Lithuanian company? What has happened to our country?
So much for the theory that electronic logbooks will make trucking safer for everybody...
I have a class action suit against a company that does the exact same thing
Ummmmmmmmm yeah, this driver and his company are so fucking screwed ! This driver will never again have a CDL, and hìs boss is gunna have to file bankruptcy after all his pending lawsuits 😅😅
Investigation on the whole company drivers and look into the logs
this problem is more common than you may think. Many companies are run by european based parent companies, where they know all the tricks to falsify a driver's logs. Shame on the driver for allowing this to happen, but if he dosen't he will be fired and replaced by another driver in less than a day. Personally I say shame on the federal government for allowing things like this to happen throughout the industry. A driver has no recourse to blow the whistle on a company, nor will they be protected from losing their job, regardless of so called whistle blower laws.
Yes they do. A driver can report illegal practices to the D.O.T.
@@nightstalker5952 True, but that driver will then be fired. And if the DOT gets to close to the truth, or an accident like this happens they just shut down and reform under a new LLC with new DOT and MC numbers.
@StumpyVanLife one thing I forgot mention, for the driver to be able to do it the company has to give him the info.
When you do wrong someone always pays the price
This is im glad i was on electronic logs
Not as uncommon as you think
My dad drove for many years. He was a stickler about his log book. He wasn’t going to get caught with a falsified book and lose his license.
This is crazy
WTH! I'm sure that the statement of the driver was accurate but the company will let him take the fall because he was ultimately behind the wheel! #SMH 🙄
Not supporting altered driving info but wrecks happen all day every day with well rested drivers with plenty of work time because of others going too slow for conditions and other dangerous maneuvers around trucks.
It's easy a good lawyer had asked to do an investigation on the trucking company to make sure he was "legally" allowed to be on the road. And he was not supposed to be there in the first place therefore the driver and the company are liable for the damages that happen next!
CSA 2010 was supposed to change all to ELD no exceptions yet the implementation failed 😕
I thought ELDs were mandatory?
They are with a few exceptions, one being bull haulers, two trucks that are 99 and older. What it was was he made it look like he had a co-driver when he did not. Which is falsification.
He had an eld. They said he called his company and they reset it somehow to make it look like a co driver had been driving.
@DonIsadick-mf3gv no a actually the driver can do that. He just has to have a name with the correct driver i.d.
He was falsifying the eld by claiming a 2nd driver that didn't exist
Rip to the victims and survivors of this Horrific accident. This was a Magnitude of bad Events that came together at once. The bus has mechanical issues why it was 40 mph it was late at nite. The driver Clearly Had Road Hypnosis. Just sad all the way around.
It's keep driving or go home and no more loads for u. Too much companys make drivers cheat on logs.
Guess driver didn't know how to double and triple log book entries. Paper back. Now everythings E log .
There's a lot of that going on with some of these trucking companies.