AMERICAN STANDARD URINAL INSTALLATION
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I like how you caulked it to the wall so it will never come off . My favorite part was all the leaks!!!!
Man, I have to say, your videos are the best plumbing videos out there. I'm a maintenance engineer in a big office bldg. and sometimes I have to do plumbing jobs. Now I'm pretty good at figuring stuff out, but watching your videos makes it easier because all of the "figuring out" stuff and little tips and tricks, have already been figured out by you. Thanks again and please keep them coming. BTW, I think it's awesome that you're teaching your sons the trade. They may not know it now, but knowing a trade like this will pay of huge for their futures. These types of jobs are dying out in this generation as everyone is pushing college. But the fact that your oldest is going to college for a business degree is super smart.
thanks Joe. Yes both young bucks getting degree and plumbing in the future.
Wow ty for this! I’m an apprentice plumber that is gonna install some disablility urinals for first time. With this video I’ll be ready!. I give you my gratitude good sir!
I'm a first year apprentice and I haven't had a chance to install a urinal yet. We mostly do apartments and residential. Thanks for sharing its less complex then I expected
so i want to install a urinal in my workshop/ garage. i looked for a video to do so and came across yours. thanks i now have a plan to install mine. great video showing usual challenges and well worth the watch.
nice channel man... trying to get into plumbing myself.. very helpful. i like the fact that there isnt alot of editing so the audience can go through the whole proccess and really learn.
Glad to help! we keeping it real for sure.
thank you very much it's a plus from my learning school. which they never show in the class or on job training
Glad it was helpful! Plumb on!
Thx again for the awesome video. I always learn so much from you buddy = have a great weekend!
Thanks, you too!
Great job! I love plumbing. I like installing the American Standard fixtures. Great products. thanks for sharing
thank you donnie. Plumb on daddio
American standard is the way to go. I love there products. The only toilets and urinals we offer at my company.
yes they are nice.
I love watching you work! No nonsense craftsmanship. I wish corporate america would take a hard look at what you do and apply it to themselves.
corporate and politics. Can you imagine where we be? we be like the jetsons right now.
Yes!!! And just like everybody see's your finished product working, everybody should see the effects of corporate, political , meddling... I have to stop myself. It's sunday and I have to enjoy my grandbabies. Thank you for your videos and sharing. I tell my grandkids to watch your channel all the time!
Excellent. Thanks for taking the time to post this informative video. When you flush, think of us.
Sure thing! lol
Thanks for sharing your video. Which drill bit is best for tiles. Used a standard one for bricks the other say, drilling carefully and the tile still cracked.
Great job! I like the video as someone who has be turning pipes for 30 years mostly residential, it's nice to learn more about the commercial side.
My advice to other plumbers watching, invest in tools that speed you up. Lightweight is more expensive but worth every penny, speed release cutters and auto cutters, a set of the same brand drill and impact with same battery types and ratcheting box wrenches. I spent 25 years working late and weekends, I don't anymore. Your time is way more valuable than money the best tools for the job will get you home earlier.
bro i love you videos ! i’m a plumber in nyc and your work is fabulous and very clean and ur a good mechanic !!! don’t get any better than you ! i stumbled across ur page today and now i’m gonna spend my saturday night watching all your videos ! keep up great work !! joe nyc Joe The Plumber™️
NYC in Da House!!! Thanks Joe
I was looking for the carriage install but this is also helpful!
Great video beautiful work. Very informative. I'm going to be installing some Zurn's on Monday with the AMTC optic eye auto flush.
Nice. get er done...Thanks Charles
Toto's are better
i love how you get down and show that money shot of the bottom of that urinal, no stunt double, no fake wall with a plastic urinal,, the real deal
Everyday Plumbing for sure. The go pro is the bomb!!
you probably dont give a shit but if you guys are bored like me atm then you can watch pretty much all the latest series on instaflixxer. I've been watching with my brother lately :)
@Max Tobias Definitely, I've been using instaflixxer for since november myself :)
Love how you work. Excellent video
Yep every journeyman plumber i had that always told me "my kids are in college so they can do better then me" was a great plumber and person funnily enough
Nice video very instructive, thank you to share the video with us
Last year someone threw one of those green toothpick/floss picks that got stuck along with gum, spit, what ever. I pulled urinal and cleaned line out. Put urinal back on wall and reached down for nuts and heard *tink* The bracket pulled away from wall and shattered the damn thing. It's one of those low flush things that doesn't play well with the drain set up. Thanks for upping the vid Chuck!
ya. always some curve ball to deal with. We love it. ha. thank you
Do you guys alway put caulk on the backside.
Im thinking removal issues.
As in pieces instead of unit.
Now that's what I call some 'Real Plumbing". Thanks for this...
cb1 top work a bit tricky to do but you manage to get it done happy days.
lil work for fun. I love it.
Very well done video! Extremely helpful!
thanks
Very nice work and clean
I have to repair a leaking urinal at my church tomorrow and had never seen one installed before. I now know exactly where to look for the problem (gasket at wall drain.) Thanks for the video.
good luck.
Silicone the gasket
@@plumbcrazy375 Got a leaky urinal too. So, I just put fresh silicone on the gasket?
How did you fix the leaking urinal?
@@legendsfcsantaclaritavalle9077 used silicone on the gasket. The gasket wasn’t brittle and didn’t need replacing. Haven’t had any problems since.
sir, this was a fantastic video, thank you.
Hey Chuck, new subscriber here and hopefully a new apprentice by the years end.. I enjoy watching your experiences in the field and would appreciate if you could vocalize any tips and tricks during your installs. Its probably second nature to you and guys who have been in the trade a while, but I think newbies could really benefit. For example in this video I was curious what type of adhesive you're using, how tight you are torqueing everything, what you are looking and listening for when testing the install, etc. Thanks!
Aaron in Da House!! Awesome stuff. Thanks for the questions I will for sure. I get wrapped up in trying to finish and or make sure its not a leaker i sometimes do not communicate info for you young gunners. Thanks for the pointer. I was using phenoseal caulk, and tighten till she snug. never over tighten she will crack and that is NO BUENO!!..
the living legend cb .😂😂😂great job sir
man we just doing it the best we can. every day plumbing.
Wow that was cool. When I grow up I want to learn how to do that too! Those urinals are cool and awsome!
Thanks
Happy Sunday.
Nice job! Regards, a fellow Plumber. Master out of Michigan.
Thanks 👍 Plumb on Daddio....
Thanks a bunch man. You just made me seem alot smarter. I knew when I heard your voice you'd set me right. I learned the trade in S. Jersey. In alaska now and it's the same shit.
lol...what up brother.
I've installed the same urinal and flush valve in my shop. No matter where I adjust the regulator it does the same small amount of water to flush. Like maybe 2 seconds of a flush. On your video it runs for quit a bit longer.
Thanks for content never installed a urinal being mostly residential but looks like same old same old once you know plumbing theres nothing you can do all same principals apply to everything crazy how vast plumbing field can get. Keep up great content that was a smooth install brother banging it out
Thanks for stopping by.....we plugging along.
The only video I have understand!! Nice video man, quick question que you also do a video on Installing the sensor urinal flush valve???
A little " tech tip " cb 1 , we always put a little wax on the wall drain fitting ,push the ring on and put wax on urinal side of ring , never a leak !
Ive used wax or pipe dope both work great
oh...i like the tech tip of the day. thanks John.
I like that too. awesome.
Lol I just put 711
Very nice demonstration
Thanks R
Awesome information
Glad it was helpful!
Nice job on the install Chuck. Looking sharp. I did my fair share of caulking when I was an apprentice. A bad caulk job can make a sharp install look rough. Most of the time now I just go with the caulk that goes on white and dries clear. White caulk tends to stick out like a sore thumb on any tile or grout that is not white. Clear caulk hides a multitude of sins. CB2 will get to practice his caulking Zen.
oh its coming. and the clear will be the ticket. and a small tip cut for the young buck. that gonna be a week from now because he bout to board flight to cancun.....spring break with his crew....look out.
Just like a pipefitter with a case of wheels and a grinder can make a bad welder look good.
Thank you Thank you Thank you for filming this! This gives me the confidence to install one in my own bathroom! 👏
Glad I could help! Get er done daddio.
Good afternoon i watch your Channel down here in México and i enjoyed it very much. I just have one question I bought a urinal just like the one you just instales but it doesnt have the stud. I just want to know the side of the stud i need thank you and have a great day
What up sir. a nice backing board be good....
Nice job 👏
Thanks I needed this for a school project
Thanks
Yes sir.
How much water should be left on the urinal drain after flushing? above the rim or below? if below how much low? just flush to the rim or below .5 inch?
Good stuff
11:49, was an eye opener for me, I was sweating bricks at work because I didnt wanna mess up the heights since I though ooo theres no flexible hose here to save my hide. So it seems the correct center of the water supply matters more than the height. pheww
I'll get to use it.
Nice video
American Standard sets you up for failure with their rough in measurement of 17-1/2” from the center of the drain to the center of the oblong slot on their hanger brackets. You would think they would be able to make these urinals uniform enough to give a n exact measurement to the top or bottom of the bracket, itself, instead of to the center of the slot in the bracket. There have been several times I have installed that exact same urinal where that slot didn’t even allow for enough play for the drain bolts to hit the holes in the urinal. I have learned to center the slot screw at 17-1/4”, like you did, but I then do a dry run with just that one screw tight and adjust as necessary, then drill the top two holes in the brackets. So many contractors are using porcelain tile instead of ceramic tile these days, so I can’t afford the additional time and drill bits it takes to drill additional holes. Porcelain tile is so much harder than the ceramic tile you drilled through.
How many hours would you allow for a typical urinal install like this?
How did you got the your measurements for the urinal brackets and the high
I started with existing drain. if not paper work on new rough in.
enjoy the video thanks sir for that
Thank You.
I'm stalling one from scratch how much room do I need inside the wall for the 2"pipe and the fnpt . I only have 2 1/2 inches 😢 thank you for any reply
rough in sheet gives all specs al.
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Is there an easier way to drill through the wall tile? Doing it the way in the video is quite tough on the hands and wrists.
Many new tile bits on market for sure.
Sitting on my chair watching other people plumb while I'm on call for emergency drain line calls and having thawed out frozen sewer lines all day long. I must be insane or really like plumbing. Haven't decided which yet haha.
I love it too....where you still thawing sewer lines out at? what is your method of a frozen sewer? just curious. We rarely have that here in south jersey.
Matt...I do it as well...lol. One would think that... when we Plumbers are done for the day, we wouldn't be looking at trade stuff online. I'm addicted to the trade as well bud.
tis the plumb life.
@@ChuckBarron I'm in Montana we are starting to come out of a deep freeze. Had quite a few lines freeze up this year actually. We use the arctic blaster. Its essentially a cast iron box that we fill with water and shoot flames into with a propane tank. It comes with a hose that we can feed into a clean out to melt the ice. It's been pretty good although it takes a while for it to work due to the cold.
@@@Bdp187 Here in Pa. I've might of seen 1 frozen drain in my career...very rare here, as we don't get deep freezes like you guys.
What kind of caulking was used to glue urinal on wall?
phenoseal is what I used.
Master Plumber at work! Watch out everyone! lol
Yes....#9650 lol
I like American Standard urinals. It don’t stick out too much and looks good. I wish I had one in my home because I’m so sick of using a toilet just to piss.
Shouldn't Critical Level on Flushometer be 6" minimum above top of the fixture?
existing gear..
Hope you had a pressure red. valve somewhere ...they don't like high pressure.
no sir they don't
Alright heres an update on my plumbing journey.
I had gotten a job at southern agriculture and was recently fired because I said "yes sir" to a man dressed as a woman and "Thank you ma'am" to a new co worker. This week I have gotten an interview with a plumber out of Jinks OK who will take me on as an apprentice and start pay would be 15$ an hour. Ill keep you updated after the interview.
oh hell ya, wow its everywhere. crazy. good luck plumber.
Chuck Barron just got back from the interview. I start tomorrow at $15
Wow. Seth, ur doin it right.
Its the world we now live in.
I just recently found out its politically incorrect to
Use the term oriental when refering to asians.
Its a shame that sometime the stakes are that high.
These people are thin skinned morons.
An American standard washbrook urinal! What were the old ones?
Im not sure. and yes on the washbrook.
CB-1 nice job but if I was you I would purchase the Knipex pliers wrench it's 10 times faster then using the wrench that you were using. I love my set you will thank me later after you buy them and try them. Peace brother
thanks makita. appreciate the tip.
I hope that wasn't some type of adhesive that he just caulked on the back of that urinal because from a service plumber standpoint if I had to yank that thing off the wall to cable that drain there'd be a problem
Why did you put caulk on the back side of the urinal?
what do you usually charge per fixture on residential, also commercial, just curious
im all over the map on my pricing. hit me in email if ya like Cannon. thanks
250
Was wondering if you’ve ever tried using self centering drill bits? Depending on application, they work pretty well.
Also, do you find that most ppl don’t consult with you before demo, to save time/money; or for the most part....you get called in after the fact etc....for a project(if get involved from start, do you think things run smoother/better, or doesn’t really matter any)?
Cheers👍🏻
walked in and the job was gutted. toilets flanges all clogged with broken tile. what a mess. i have never used them bits. what is the link?
Cb, they have a different pilot, but I never use those on tile. if you want not to pre punch, you can use a piece of thick lexan with a hole, that will be your guide. I wouldn't dare use a hammer drill, Mr Murphy would get me and crack the tile. I just use diamond bits with some water. takes longer but no busted tile!!
Yeah they ate mostly used on wood, drywall, & dine metal. Never used I tile myself, but as long as have right bit, should work. Know able to replace bits when break in self center bit with Allen wrench...do don't see why could replace with tile bit; but never tried myself. Would be interested to know if works or not
What kind of drillbit was that? Is that ceramic tile and a diamond bit?
Masonry I'm guessing? Never thought of thT for ceramic tile
So no wax ring necessary?
hows the pack out open tote u find?
oh man....bout to buy some more. coming together nicely. So sweet.
When you caulk the back of the urinal how does the service plumber remove the urinal without pulling the tiles off?
Good point. I am the service plumber here. I will be careful.
@@ChuckBarron ha!
Xacto knife
It’s not as strong as the grout lol it’s no different than replacing a toilet that’s been caulked. Pull it off scrape/clean the rest install the new one and move one to the next.
Putting a urinal together is the easy part. How do you get water to it and where does the piss pipe drain into? How do you do that part?!
another day brother. But not today. ha.
I’m installing a bathroom in my basement,I told my wife I want a urninal In it,my wife is flipping out lol,but they actually make nice residential ones
Oh see she mad...she wants one in every bathroom....lol
She can go to hell!
Hi there; another maintenance tech here, with a question: our American Standard urinal is clogged (those damned kids!) and we have to remove it to find the foreign object causing the problem. (We have plunged and snaked to no avail.) Am I going to have to contend with glue in addition to bolts fastening the darned thing to the wall? How does one deal with that? Is there some kind of solvent that is used to drip down the back side of the urinal, or what? Obviously, I have never had to do this before. Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
just did this....most likely clogged at drain. Urine crystalizes in drain. Pull, clean, rehang.
some Mexicans can be heard there 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Good job friend Buen trabajo ✌️👌
Lets Go!!
Is the drain flush with wall or it has to stick out
sticks out a bit....the flange that is
Chuck Barron how far in do you usually go with the inside cutters chuck? I’m installing three tomorrow this video was a good refresher thanks.
What would it cost roughly to put in a stand up urinal in a house?
Depends on location ect.
RIGHT TIME IMMA PICK A RIGHT TIME
Just one word, " perfect "
lets not get crazy....lol. but ok. ha
Hey Chuck! Another awesome video. There goes another satisified youtuber! lol. I had a quick question if you have the time. I was super curious about how that urinal connection is made behind the wall. I'm in Mass and a lot of guys say the urinal connection can ONLY be made with lead and oakum. In the MA codebook, it explicitly states:
Urinal waste branches and urinal fixture wastes shall conform to the following:
1. They shall be made of:
a.
extra heavy or service weight cast iron soil pipe and fittings with caulked joints
b.
threaded cast iron pipe with cast iron drainage fittings; or
c.
iron size copper or brass pipe with cast brass drainage fittings
Which seems to make a lot of guys wrong on the subject, or am I wrong about this? I guess my question to you is, do you use a threaded piece in the wall cut to the proper length to make the connection, or is the piece caulked with lead and oakum? I'm just trying to sort this out and I really appreciate your help my friend. Keep up the excellent work!
like all plumbing in NJ. we can use abs or pvc flanges. Brass does come with urinals.
@@ChuckBarron Thanks Chuck! It's funny, in my code class the teacher said they word the code book the way they do to avoid confusion. I mean, that's a real hoot right there lol! anyways, I hope you have a great day man and don't work too hard.
What model number is that Ridgid wrench? What length is it?
hmmmmm not sure. its 12" for sure. i can look at my supply bill. I will let ya know.
Looks like a 10” or 12” spud wrench
Wow!
Bam!
Niiiiiiiiiiiice!
I am 17 and I collect flushometers and other plumbing parts
get er done plumber
Why do u put Caulk behind the urinal
some extra security to the wall..
Chuck, how come the GC didn't put backing in the wall for you?
Yea they really should be some. Not that many people stand on urinals but there is some weight there
the job moving so fast I could not even keep up. that happened over the weekend i believe.
Yes. I agree but they did snugged up super nice.
With my luck Chuck, those urinals would come crashing down if I wall plugged them. Instead of using china fixtures in public bathrooms, it should be mandatory to use penal toilets and sinks. lol I take care of a couple of public rest rooms, and those people are freaking animals!! I've had to replace broken toilet flanges/toilets/urinals, cause guys get drunk and start acting stupid. The women's bathroom is always the worst, and I say to myself "who in their right mind would marry one of these broads", with how filthy it is in here.
our ladies....so sweet. ha.
You really like rough talkin that thing. Givin it the business
what drill bit is that
hmmmmm not sure. Glass tile bits are the best.
Neoprene or wax ring what’s your preferred seal for urinal?
Z Randall do they make wax urinal seals?
Yes, there is also with a plastic seal in the wax urinal ring as well there two kinds that I know of for wax seals we use here down in here in S.FL.
*there is two kinds that I know of.
* is ... are ... grammatically speaking.... ✌🏻
The wax seals work good as long as you set the urinal like a water closet wax seal.... the first time and not break the seal. If not they tend clog at the flange.
Are those urinals heavy
Yes they have some weight to them
yes. a bit of a back breaker for sure.
Not a good choice of anchors for a wall hung bracket ! But overall good vid
Don't you hate then the bolts slide or the gasket doesn't want to fit just right a little pipe dope on the back of it does wonders
The good ol hammer fist lol
year right.
why sir not come the down sides strong
plumbing 101
What about the critical line you need six inches
yes sir.
Lubricate all rubber baskets with water , then tighten
some plumbers grease. thats what i used.
Silicone grease
Homedepot sells those brackets surprisingly enough....just an fyi Shame most people will never understand how horrible it is to work on a used urinal or god forbid an old one with an external trap....
ya...money spent and saved all in the same sentence.
Can you elaborate a little on the issues you refer to.?
Urinals made today have their traps molded into the fixture.... Years ago they use to have a spud on the bottom where you would install a trap, like you find under a sink... and as for the smell that comes from the drain when you remove a urinal from the wall....well its enough to choke a sewer fly.. next to a grease trap, hands down the worst smell in the world...not counting dirty people...
Vaticider69 , thanks, ..
might need bett baking on wall looks like them lill anhores might not last wax or culk aron drin bott mayb u can do some mob or gansert vids with chris chirsty
she all but part of the wall now...holding fast for future business.
No Ada urinal ?
In the other bathroom.