I was a state prosecutor for seven years, now a defense attorney. My wife has been a defense attorney for five years. Lawyer Up looks, sounds, and feels so accurate it almost feels scary! I’ve definitely sat in front of a jury wishing I had more evidence. I’ve also sat there with a piece of evidence that, for some legal reason, I can’t use unless they open the door and then they do and it feels so incredible! I would never have believed the “job” could be distilled into a game; but I cannot wait to try this with my wife! Thanks for showing it to us!
I was a public defender for a while, and I completely agree - this game is so accurate it's crazy! I can't tell you how many times I've called an expert witness and gave myself a little self-high-five as the judge awards my client 4 extra points. :)
Anything that even REMOTELY reminds me of Ace Attorney is automatically on my list, and I really like how it seems to be more whimsical than depressing crime time
I got my KS version and it is indeed fun. A little slow to start because you have no pieces or puzzles but it ramps up pretty fast midway and near the end where you're flipping puzzles and hoping you can actually get some done before the end of the game. VERY pretty game. I think it's worth it for it's simplicity and production value. I already backed the new KS expansion. :P
It appears to have zero interaction between players, apart from getting the tiles from the same pool. So where's the conflict...? What makes the game more fun with extra players?
Lukas is a friend and played the game more with me than anyone else besides Mike. Another Android Netunner connection is that Matt Zeilinger, who did a ton of great art for Netrunner, did the cover art for Lawyer Up. Maybe we can get him to do all the art for a cyberpunk case somewhere down the line!
Oh man I've been wanting a dueling game about law for so long... I need to grab Lawyer Up asap :0 Also Flourish is beautiful and ever since Arboretum I've been craving more games about nice plants lol
Lawyer up seems the most intriguing though, the gameplay really reflects the theme expertly. But with it being 2 players i do not think i would get enough play out of it to justify owning it. Definitely hope to try it at a convention sometime though. Thanks for demonstrating these games and bringing them to our attention. I love your reviews but you are all excellent at showcasing games that are new to you as well (:
I love aquatic themes and aquatica seems interesting; though with Oceans and Abyss already fondly in my favourite games i am not sure there is room for another one. The art though ok does not grab me but i like the sinking and location grabbing mechanics, and the manta ray actions are cool.
Tried Project L last Year at Spiel. Pretty cool concept, but was to expensive for my taste. Also played Aquatica, but bought it. Pretty cool game, and interesting concepts.
One question: you said at one point that “in the end whoever has more jurors swayed to their side win the case, just like in real law” I thought that the defense only had to sway one juror to their side (reasonable doubt) while the prosecution had to win them ALL over. Incidentally, that is also how it is in real life (at least in criminal cases), you have to win unanimous guilty plea with the jury to convict someone. (Civil cases are a little different) Is the game the same as real life on this, or is it just a majority of jury convicts?
The Art Forgery case is set in a European courtroom and is based on EU law, where only a majority would be needed in a case like this. In the Murder Trail, another case in the core set, things are more asymmetrical. It is set in an American courtroom and so the Prosecution needs all 12 jurors, while the Defense only needs a single hold out to win the game. There are other mechanisms to balance out the sides to be roughly equal in their chances for victory.
I think the buildlings in highrise should be drawn from an above perspective rather than street-level. It's odd that they depicted the buildings that way, they look weird on the board like that.
I am wondering when these games are due out? I already want to buy a few! Next year? Christmas? I am guessing they might all be different but just "in general?"
In Lawyer Up (btw I finally realized why Brits don't use the term 'lawyer' as often as Americans. In the English accent, it is nearly indistinguishable from lier, 'lah-yah', while Americans say 'loy-err.' Obvious jokes aside, I can see why they would use different words), I'm going to have to look into the concept of the Judge "favoring" the Prosecution or Defense and how it works in game. In American law, anyway, the judge is expected to at least be impartial if not outright favoring the defense based on Presumption of Innocence. It is the Prosecution's job to prove their case against the Defense, not the other way around. Also, can you only use the arguments/evidence that you happen to randomly have in your hand? Or can you work through the whole deck on a single witness, just using the cards you need? This explanation made it seem to me like, after you had drafted a good deck, you were then left somewhat up to luck as to which cards you would be able to play against a given witness. This is probably just my misunderstanding, as that doesn't make much sense thematically. It would also be a thematically acurate and mechanically interesting twist if the players had a hand in jury selection as they do in a real case. Of course if this wasn't well-balanced, you could end up playing an entire game that was too stacked against one or the other player from the start. While this could happen in real life (if your lawyer stinks) it wouldn't be a very fun game.
Getting cozy with bats might seem like a good idea. Right up until they give you a virus that shuts the world down and leaves you sitting at home and no-one to play board games with.
just don't eat them. The problem with many of these virus outbreaks are wet markets which is where crowded wildlife housed animals in unregulated markets are sold for food. Sick animals next to healthy animals. Diseases go both ways from animals to humans and humans to animals. If you have a cold virus and visit any gorilla areas, you could make them quite ill and potentially harm their populations.
I don't normally watch these previews but its more appealing when there's several of them together, especially since theyre also categorized now
Agreed, this is a great format, if I realise I don't like something I just skip ahead to the next preview.
I was a state prosecutor for seven years, now a defense attorney. My wife has been a defense attorney for five years. Lawyer Up looks, sounds, and feels so accurate it almost feels scary!
I’ve definitely sat in front of a jury wishing I had more evidence. I’ve also sat there with a piece of evidence that, for some legal reason, I can’t use unless they open the door and then they do and it feels so incredible! I would never have believed the “job” could be distilled into a game; but I cannot wait to try this with my wife! Thanks for showing it to us!
I would love to see expansion modules that cover "Civil v. Criminal", "Grand v. Petit", and a special "Voir Dire" package.
I was a public defender for a while, and I completely agree - this game is so accurate it's crazy! I can't tell you how many times I've called an expert witness and gave myself a little self-high-five as the judge awards my client 4 extra points. :)
Unlike real life, you can clearly see the corruption and it will actually punish the people involved
i love this
That comment was completely savage. Pure Quinns. I love it.
@@javierdarkona7612 When was that quote? I did not catch it.
@@DerekHohls high rise
I need Lawyer Up in my life, that looks amazing.
I backed the KS and I'm sooo looking forward to play it. :)
Anything that even REMOTELY reminds me of Ace Attorney is automatically on my list, and I really like how it seems to be more whimsical than depressing crime time
Anyone know when it releases?
@@Edit-nk6nb Should make it first quarter 2021.
Imagine a Phoenix Wright version of Lawer Up
If anyone has a contact at Capcom, send them our way!
@@RockManorGames hey man, lawyer to be. Your game is going to be my gift to future law students.
OBJECTION!!!
Project L looks amazing. I can see having a lot of fun with people
Yeah, I've backed it on Kickstarter after watching the BoardGameCo review. Looks great.
I got my KS version and it is indeed fun. A little slow to start because you have no pieces or puzzles but it ramps up pretty fast midway and near the end where you're flipping puzzles and hoping you can actually get some done before the end of the game.
VERY pretty game. I think it's worth it for it's simplicity and production value.
I already backed the new KS expansion. :P
It appears to have zero interaction between players, apart from getting the tiles from the same pool. So where's the conflict...? What makes the game more fun with extra players?
Spoiler for the ones who can't stand the tension: The optional deck finally falls off at 8:38
I think most people feel some sort of tension while Quins in on the screen. (I hadn't noticed the cards.)
I backed lawyer up as soon as I saw it on kickstarter, looks great, can't wait to get it!
Thanks for the Project L preview - duly backed onKS now!
One of the best noises in the world is Tom saying ‘Chunky’!
Very excited about Flourish!
Lawyer Up is great! Also neat is that in the credits, one of the play testers is Lucas Lutzinger of Android Netrunner fame.
Lukas is a friend and played the game more with me than anyone else besides Mike. Another Android Netunner connection is that Matt Zeilinger, who did a ton of great art for Netrunner, did the cover art for Lawyer Up. Maybe we can get him to do all the art for a cyberpunk case somewhere down the line!
Oh man I've been wanting a dueling game about law for so long... I need to grab Lawyer Up asap :0
Also Flourish is beautiful and ever since Arboretum I've been craving more games about nice plants lol
I love those shirts. If I went outside I'd buy some.
Ah high rise looks neat, oh it's $75
LAWYER UP! Lawyer Up!
Quinns, can you mail Tom a lav mic? It was a bit of a contrast to go from your excellent audio to reverb city with Tom for Aquatica.
He was in a bathysphere recording it, not his fault
Lawyer up seems the most intriguing though, the gameplay really reflects the theme expertly. But with it being 2 players i do not think i would get enough play out of it to justify owning it. Definitely hope to try it at a convention sometime though.
Thanks for demonstrating these games and bringing them to our attention. I love your reviews but you are all excellent at showcasing games that are new to you as well (:
Project L looks super cool!!
Turn-based Ubongo :)
I just want to point out that Aquatica has a card called, "Diplomatic Crab."
That is all.
I wasn't looking at this game to much, I may have to reconsider.
Project L looks like 50% of the weapons station mechanism from Space Cadets torn out and made in to its own spin-off game.
Lawyer Up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve been working for lawyers for 35 years...I just can’t imagine playing a game about them! Cool idea though.
At the beggining of Project L I was like I know who is the author, I know Adam personally : D
LAWYER UP!
Aquatica looks awesome!
It reminds me a lot of Abyss. Not just because of the under sea elements, but also the manipulation of the decks and your allies.
What a Van Huage highrise!
"Look there's no one in the chair"
I love aquatic themes and aquatica seems interesting; though with Oceans and Abyss already fondly in my favourite games i am not sure there is room for another one.
The art though ok does not grab me but i like the sinking and location grabbing mechanics, and the manta ray actions are cool.
Tried Project L last Year at Spiel. Pretty cool concept, but was to expensive for my taste.
Also played Aquatica, but bought it. Pretty cool game, and interesting concepts.
ah yes, now i can watch 0:45 - 9:38 on repeat and my life is complete
I'm still new to this hobby. How many times do you need to play a board game before its fair to review it ?
What happened to the notebook at 19:38? It is tripping me out a bit!
😲
High rise seems soooo good! but I can't find it :'(
shop.shux.show/products/high-rise?_pos=1&_sid=cb5ae4040&_ss=r
@@shutupandsitdown thank you! unfortunately I'm outide US :(
charming
One question: you said at one point that “in the end whoever has more jurors swayed to their side win the case, just like in real law”
I thought that the defense only had to sway one juror to their side (reasonable doubt) while the prosecution had to win them ALL over.
Incidentally, that is also how it is in real life (at least in criminal cases), you have to win unanimous guilty plea with the jury to convict someone. (Civil cases are a little different)
Is the game the same as real life on this, or is it just a majority of jury convicts?
The Art Forgery case is set in a European courtroom and is based on EU law, where only a majority would be needed in a case like this. In the Murder Trail, another case in the core set, things are more asymmetrical. It is set in an American courtroom and so the Prosecution needs all 12 jurors, while the Defense only needs a single hold out to win the game. There are other mechanisms to balance out the sides to be roughly equal in their chances for victory.
19:34 Look at the notebook in his hands. What just happened? Creepy!
9:29 that's what she said.
I think the buildlings in highrise should be drawn from an above perspective rather than street-level. It's odd that they depicted the buildings that way, they look weird on the board like that.
I am wondering when these games are due out? I already want to buy a few! Next year? Christmas? I am guessing they might all be different but just "in general?"
In Lawyer Up (btw I finally realized why Brits don't use the term 'lawyer' as often as Americans. In the English accent, it is nearly indistinguishable from lier, 'lah-yah', while Americans say 'loy-err.' Obvious jokes aside, I can see why they would use different words), I'm going to have to look into the concept of the Judge "favoring" the Prosecution or Defense and how it works in game. In American law, anyway, the judge is expected to at least be impartial if not outright favoring the defense based on Presumption of Innocence. It is the Prosecution's job to prove their case against the Defense, not the other way around.
Also, can you only use the arguments/evidence that you happen to randomly have in your hand? Or can you work through the whole deck on a single witness, just using the cards you need? This explanation made it seem to me like, after you had drafted a good deck, you were then left somewhat up to luck as to which cards you would be able to play against a given witness. This is probably just my misunderstanding, as that doesn't make much sense thematically.
It would also be a thematically acurate and mechanically interesting twist if the players had a hand in jury selection as they do in a real case. Of course if this wasn't well-balanced, you could end up playing an entire game that was too stacked against one or the other player from the start. While this could happen in real life (if your lawyer stinks) it wouldn't be a very fun game.
I haven't hung out with Gil in a while.
Highr Rise, also known as Monopoly goes Tokaido
And Manhattan for the area majority
Wait has Quins played any of these games, I can't remember? ;)
Wait is worm month over already?
19:36 a glitch in the matrix...?
Aquatica was released last year though.. It was for sale during Spiel ‘19
Flourish: Quinns being friends with bats belongs in the game Pandemic not flourish.
Is it just me, or is this game packaged in an MTG fat pack? Is this actually a more common packaging than I thought?
Oh god. That Aquatica (p)review sure is echoy. Someone buy that fella a decent mic... or some foam to staple to the walls... or both!
3:53 'so that's fun' doesnt even begin to cover it
You haven't played any of the games you present here? Was this a joke I didn't get or are serious?
Why would a logical person have a bias toward the prosecution from the beginning?
I think Quins implied causality where there is none. Should have been a case of "this logical person happens to have a prosecution bias"
Chunky and Sit Down.
Getting cozy with bats might seem like a good idea. Right up until they give you a virus that shuts the world down and leaves you sitting at home and no-one to play board games with.
just don't eat them. The problem with many of these virus outbreaks are wet markets which is where crowded wildlife housed animals in unregulated markets are sold for food. Sick animals next to healthy animals. Diseases go both ways from animals to humans and humans to animals. If you have a cold virus and visit any gorilla areas, you could make them quite ill and potentially harm their populations.
15:34 ...And the award for the most unnecessary use of the word ‘sheath’ goes to... Quinns!
High Rise sounds like an elaborate effort to insult Donald Trump.
LAWYER UP!