Crashing into San Francisco Bay | Japan Air Lines Flight 2

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    Japan Airlines Flight 2 was a flight piloted by Captain Kohei Asoh on November 22, 1968. The plane was a new Douglas DC-8 named "Shiga", flying from Tokyo International Airport (Haneda) to San Francisco International Airport. Due to heavy fog and other factors, Asoh mistakenly landed the plane near Coyote Point in the shallow waters of San Francisco Bay, two and a half miles short of the runway. None of the 96 passengers or 11 crew were injured in the landing.
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Komentáře • 507

  • @kenjhee
    @kenjhee Před 4 lety +41

    My father was one of the mechanics who helped repair the Shiga. They towed it to the United maintenance base under contract with JAL. He used to bring home salvaged parts that had contacted saltwater and had to be replaced. He might still have them.
    He also says that the first thing Capt. Asoh said after the water landing was, "Uhh, tower, San Francisco International appears to be covered with six feet of water, over."

  • @MagnumMike44
    @MagnumMike44 Před 4 lety +29

    I'm glad everyone was able to walk away from that water landing. It's also incredible the DC-8 was repaired and put back into service for 33 years.

  • @dgriffin6074
    @dgriffin6074 Před 4 lety +230

    It's so easy to make excuses for mistakes. I applaud Captain Asoh's frank, honest admission.

    • @Skywalker8562
      @Skywalker8562 Před 4 lety +16

      You don't understand the Oriental mind. If an accident occurs, the company, the crew, the people on the ground that work for JAL all apologize to the passengers who survived.

    • @dgriffin6074
      @dgriffin6074 Před 4 lety +2

      @@Skywalker8562 Thanks for reminding me.

    • @chrisj197438
      @chrisj197438 Před 4 lety +22

      Skywalker7897
      Complete 180 from the American policy of lie and deny then pay off without any admission of guilt.

    • @mrv1264
      @mrv1264 Před 4 lety +5

      @@Skywalker8562 The captain's "...I fucked up..." was not that kind of apology. It was testimony given to NTSB investigators. Normally, the executives "apologize," that is, put on a show. But then it's business as usual. And they're not fired, but rather continue to collect their salary. They do, however, expect someone beneath them to "fall on the sword" for them.
      Remember, in the Orient, nothing is at it appears to be. And, before anyone flames me, yes, I've worked in the Orient for years and years....

    • @s.sestric9929
      @s.sestric9929 Před 4 lety +1

      It's been my experience that making a frank, honest admission like that just pisses off the higher authorities. They don't think that you're sorry unless you stammer out a lame excuse. No excuse=flippant response.

  • @tldev6156
    @tldev6156 Před 4 lety +165

    Asoh returned to flight duty with Japan Airlines after some ground schooling, and although he was demoted to First Officer, he continued flying freight until his retirement.
    Hazen also returned to aviation a few months later, and was promoted to Captain in May of 1969. In 1974, he upgraded to the Boeing 747, and continued to fly it until his retirement in 1994.

    • @waynelast1685
      @waynelast1685 Před 4 lety +5

      T Kool thanks

    • @robbiemulholland6477
      @robbiemulholland6477 Před 4 lety +13

      I wonder if he flew a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong?

    • @chrisj197438
      @chrisj197438 Před 4 lety +1

      Robbie Mulholland
      I think there was some fake vomit with it

    • @josephmclaren2789
      @josephmclaren2789 Před 4 lety

      so glad you clarified that -thanks for the post

    • @4thstooge75
      @4thstooge75 Před 4 lety +2

      If anybody was killed in this mishap he probably would have committed hiri kiri .

  • @zippymax1
    @zippymax1 Před 4 lety +84

    Amazing story in every way: amazing everyone survived, amazing they repaired the plane, amazing it flew for 33 more years, amazing response by Azoh. Classy dude.

    • @menosbbgirl
      @menosbbgirl Před 4 lety +3

      Texas Jack you said it perfectly.

  • @msnovtue
    @msnovtue Před 4 lety +58

    Well, bonus points to the captain for honesty and acceptance of the blame....

  • @libertyliberal4349
    @libertyliberal4349 Před 4 lety +136

    Dang, Capt Azoh was a real dude! Can we take a minute to appreciate that NOONE died AND you could use the plane again!

    • @hyzercreek
      @hyzercreek Před 4 lety +3

      Peter Noone died? I thought Paul died.

    • @samueltaylor4989
      @samueltaylor4989 Před 4 lety +3

      Peter Noone is still alive! He does a radio show on ch. 6 SiriusXM!

    • @davidfowler7040
      @davidfowler7040 Před 4 lety +1

      Yes, after a $4,000,000 repair bill.

    • @davidtx8777
      @davidtx8777 Před 4 lety +1

      He was lucky!

    • @jubs0000
      @jubs0000 Před 4 lety

      I think he means no one died

  • @MrCapi55
    @MrCapi55 Před 4 lety +84

    Even when Captain Asoh admitted he ""F****d Up"" he performed The Right Reaction to avoid the Water Crash.
    Another cause of an accident that Thank God served to remark a failure (in training in this case) to avoid future fatalities accidents.
    Remarkable Ruggedness of the DC-8 - 62 which went back In service, for Another 33 Years!!!, Aside, Remarkable Photos of the Rescue of The ACTUAL DC-8!!! another "Extra Plus" of your videos Allec Joshua. Thank You.

    • @TRASHoftheTITANS
      @TRASHoftheTITANS Před 4 lety +12

      I like that response. At the end of the day, we're all human, and evidence shows that even the most highly trained and experienced pilots can make grievous errors (I'm looking at you AA 587 and AF 447). Fortunately this accident didn't result in any injury or death, but even if it had, the pilot couldn't possibly have blamed anything but his own (poor) judgement. To hold one's hands up and say: "OK, I fucked up" is infinitely more honest and admirable than trying to blame the aircraft, training, other people etc. for something that was totally within the pilot's control. I'm glad he was allowed to continue flying, not just for his virtue, but for his response to the situation that almost certainly saved the lives of his passengers.

    • @herobo123456
      @herobo123456 Před 4 lety +1

      "The Right Reaction to avoid Water crash'' LOL he was trying to do a go around 200ft too late

    • @johnnyberetta9533
      @johnnyberetta9533 Před 4 lety +2

      @@TRASHoftheTITANS Old saying in airline pilot circles, "Hey, good guys go down, too."

  • @boydmccollum692
    @boydmccollum692 Před 4 lety +60

    Sully: I landed in the Hudson.
    Asoh: Hold my sake.

  • @tomb4568
    @tomb4568 Před 4 lety +170

    I worked for the cargo airline that took delivery of this DC-8 toward the end of it's life. Great airplane I remember the BOW was a tad bit higher than the other -62s we had. You'd never know looking at it that it was in the bay! I flew on it a few times way back when!

    • @neoleomedia1676
      @neoleomedia1676 Před 4 lety +9

      Nice that you had the chance to see this plane that went for a swim and lived to tell the tale!

    • @tomb4568
      @tomb4568 Před 4 lety +8

      @@Mrfloydbryant Well not Mott The Hoople but I carry an old nickname for a long long time!

    • @WilliamSmith-nm6wt
      @WilliamSmith-nm6wt Před 4 lety

      No yoo deetint!

    • @Clydle
      @Clydle Před 4 lety +3

      @William Smith stop acting like you know he didn't. He might have actually did it. So stop assuming.

    • @tomb4568
      @tomb4568 Před 4 lety +4

      @@Clydle Thanks Koby! I certainly did work work there for 8 years at ILN. Rode quite a few YS-11's, DC-9s, DC-8's and a few Caravelle's early on! I did ride 808
      the SFO JAL bird 2 times and several of the other 61's and 62's the 63's and 762s came along after I left the company! Good folks and good times!

  • @jamesthompson3099
    @jamesthompson3099 Před 4 lety +25

    I do remember this incident. The papers jokingly referred to Captain Asoh as "Captain of the Shiga Maru". Captain Asoh was demoted to First Officer and thoroughly retrained. He went on to finish his career with JAL as did First Officer Hazen.

  • @Dana_Danarosana
    @Dana_Danarosana Před 4 lety +52

    Besides not having heard of this incident before, I'm going to have to say that my major "wow" factor comes from the fact that everyone survived AND they REPAIRED the aircraft!! I know Douglas made tough planes but holy s***!!!

    • @therandomytchannel4318
      @therandomytchannel4318 Před 4 lety +3

      I was amazed too. That thing pretty much stayed intact! I also noticed that this DC8 was a turbofan powered 8, I kind of thought hitting the water like that, the engines would be ripped away.

    • @theobserver4214
      @theobserver4214 Před 4 lety +1

      Dana Danarosana Well, they did.
      The DC-10 was a real shitcan until they fixed it after Douglas already croaked

    • @niceguy60
      @niceguy60 Před 4 lety +3

      @@theobserver4214
      It was and still is a shit can to this day. So much of a shit can the DC-10 even takes out other planes with its shittyness, just ask the Concorde.

    • @algrayson8965
      @algrayson8965 Před 4 lety +2

      @@niceguy60- The DC-10 itself had nothing to do with the Concorde crash. The Concorde was overloaded with excess fuel and cargo, too much cargo toward the tail, took off with a tailwind, ran off the runway due to the left main gear truck being misaligned due to a missing axle spacer, causing the left main gear tires to hit the runway edge lights, attempted to lift off at insufficient airspeed for the overload and tailwind conditions, all before the tire ran over an incompetently fabricated and installed patch that fell off of the DC-10. The overfilled wing tank burst at its leading-edge wall due to no vapor space (fuel is incompressible; fuel vapor is very compressible) to absorb shock, fuel spilled into the #1 engine intake, causing the #1 engine to flame out. The fuel spray was ignited by a dangling wire loom in the left wheel well. Then the flight engineer shut the #2 engine off.
      Having full takeoff power on #3 and #4 plus damage to the flaperons on the left wing, reducing lift and causing it to stall, made it impossible for Captain Marty, who had ordered too much fuel and permitted too much cargo to be loaded, to control the airplane.
      The airport maintenance failed to inspect and to clear any debris from the runway, in violation of specific Concorde operating procedures which require runway inspection and clearing immediately before Concorde take-off and landing. The Concordes were notorious for bursting tires. There had been several incidents of blow-outs damaging wing underside skins.
      Due to the very high take-off and landing groundspeeds compared to subsonic airliners, the very high tire loading, the Concordes’ tires were sensitive to low pressure, excessively long take-off and landing rolls, hard landings.
      When you have an airplane that is limited to 7% of its take-off weight in payload (passengers and cargo), as compared to a typical subsonic airliner’s 25%, overloading and imbalancing can be a serious danger to aircraft stability.
      On excess fuel loading: standard practice is not to fill wing tanks completely. Part of trimming an airplane is achieved by pumping fuel from one tank to another. If tanks are brimming-over full this cannot be done until fuel has been burned off.
      The DC-10 cargo door latch problem was rectified early on. Unfortunately some customers-operators couldn't be bothered to replace the old latches with the new, such as Turkish, which suffered a cargo door latch failure two years after the new parts were made available and a recommendation was made by McDonnell-Douglas to all customers and operators.
      The engine loss failure was caused by gross negligence by a maintenance crew’s failure to follow manufacturer's instructions for engine R&R.

    • @johnnyberetta9533
      @johnnyberetta9533 Před 4 lety +2

      I read a longtime commercial pilot say, on an online pilot's forum, that the DC 8 was a remarkably rugged aircraft, built like a tank.

  • @Digitallycloned
    @Digitallycloned Před 4 lety +144

    One thing you can say about that plane is it had a full life.

    • @Underappreciatedclassics
      @Underappreciatedclassics Před 4 lety +17

      1962? To 2001, pretty impressive

    • @CRUISOMATIC
      @CRUISOMATIC Před 4 lety +10

      Should have been preserved and put on display in a museum ...

    • @trijetz3562
      @trijetz3562 Před 4 lety +3

      @@CRUISOMATIC the airplane flights ARE the display and museum.

    • @monkey-trial...6578
      @monkey-trial...6578 Před 4 lety +3

      Full OF life too!

    • @alexp3752
      @alexp3752 Před 4 lety +5

      What did you expect, the aircraft was built by the Douglas Aircraft Company...

  • @rongants6082
    @rongants6082 Před 4 lety +5

    The Japanese pilot was born in 1922. Apparently he was a flight instructor in the military in WW2.
    The pilots admitted that they did not know how to fly the plane. But they were hired to fly passengers across the Pacific. Unbelievable.

  • @jmc428
    @jmc428 Před 4 lety +10

    It's always a good story when everyone survives - respect to the captain for shouldering the blame, not many people made like that these days.

    • @alexp3752
      @alexp3752 Před 4 lety +1

      To the Japanese honor means everything... I wish Chinese "Chow Meiners" had the same philosophy.

  • @hawaiisurfski3602
    @hawaiisurfski3602 Před 4 lety +15

    Not every plane goes swimming and flies on to tell the tale. It should have been put in a museum.

  • @copperman752
    @copperman752 Před 4 lety +1

    I don't know any of the flight/piloting jargon but I was totally impressed with this incident. First, no one was injured; second, the aircraft was actually repaired and continued to fly from 1962 to 2001 (?) and third -- the aviation industry must have been a lot more forgiving back then. Captain Asoh was an incredible example to other pilots, I hope other pilots learned from his example of integrity. I'm glad he was somehow remembered in the aviation system for his admission of pilot error. These CZcamss give me help in dealing with the crash I was in at O'Hare in 1972, I appreciate your posting this. Everyone survived that one also, but it was a much more dangerous landing. Thanks.

  • @user-mv2ff7wm6e
    @user-mv2ff7wm6e Před 4 lety +212

    Well, at least everyone survived. And wow, they repaired the aircraft at a crazy cost, rather than writing it off?!

    • @alphafoxtrot787
      @alphafoxtrot787 Před 4 lety +16

      That's something you probably wouldn't see much :o

    • @m.d.5463
      @m.d.5463 Před 4 lety +18

      I think that was a matter of honor!

    • @workingguy6666
      @workingguy6666 Před 4 lety +13

      Yeah. I don't know how much a new DC-8-2 was back then though. Had to be close to that 4-mil cost I'd guess.

    • @stevencramsie9172
      @stevencramsie9172 Před 4 lety +3

      It's just water.

    • @TheOmega13a
      @TheOmega13a Před 4 lety +42

      @@stevencramsie9172 Its actually salt water. Can cause corrosion. I think the reason why the plane was repaired rather then written off was it was a DC-8. Not as much electronic systems as a more modern jet.

  • @JRobert111111
    @JRobert111111 Před 4 lety +10

    Wow! What an amazing story! Nobody injured and the plane was repaired to live out a long service life. The pictures showing the plane being lifted from the water were so interesting. I love the quality, detail and overall smoothness and refinement of your videos. Thanks for taking the time and effort to make this video and looking forward to more!

  • @eugenelayton5231
    @eugenelayton5231 Před 4 lety +3

    As a boy I remember going to the beach near there and seeing the plane held up by floats for a couple of days before it was removed. What a sight to see. Fortunately everyone made it out of there safely.

  • @celinesoosai
    @celinesoosai Před 4 lety +4

    I am a Dr but an aviation buff, been following you for more than a year now. Your vids are great. 33 minutes after uploading I am watching n it amazes me to see the number of requests you have. Stay blessed n regards from Malaysia

  • @gregpeterson7849
    @gregpeterson7849 Před 4 lety +2

    I was on the staff of the San Francisco Chronicle at the time, and I shot a picture of the aircraft interior the day after this happened. What a mess!

  • @algrayson8965
    @algrayson8965 Před 4 lety +63

    Major fault was a management failure. Sending pilots out with inadequate training, so inadequate that multiple personnel recognize that the training is inadequate, lays primary responsibility on management.

    • @herobo123456
      @herobo123456 Před 4 lety

      ya and not doing a fucking go- around at DA

    • @johnnyberetta9533
      @johnnyberetta9533 Před 4 lety

      Inadequate training ? I'll say. When Captain Asoh was first training at Osaka, his plane only had a cheap Made in Hong Kong compass and a small transistor radio...(just kidding) Hey Most Honourablr 1st Officer Tanaka, what's this VOR bullshit ? LOL.

  • @erode.5101
    @erode.5101 Před 4 lety +9

    So glad that everyone on board survived this incident!
    But a sad thing is that the aircraft slammed into the water due to pilot error...
    Great recreation, fantastic even

  • @menosbbgirl
    @menosbbgirl Před 4 lety +3

    I LOVE it when everyone survives!!!! Such glorious words to read lol!💕💕💕

  • @BsUJeTs
    @BsUJeTs Před 4 lety +1

    I use to work for UAL in SFO overhaul. DC8s were one of the most rugged aircraft I’ve ever worked on. Old but reliable, with the right flight crews on board.

  • @johnderfler5183
    @johnderfler5183 Před 4 lety +8

    2 1/2 miles short of the runway. I'm no pilot, but that seems to me to be a big miss.

  • @hellosunshine1090
    @hellosunshine1090 Před 4 lety +6

    What a great story Alec. Too much tech too soon for these pilots to master.
    I was totally confused as you gave the steps for ILS and was saying to myself, dang how can they keep it all straight then boom "in the drink" they go !
    This was long ago. I was 4 when it occurred. Sure it made all the newspapers. I was an early reader but not that early !
    Thx for the great history lesson.

  • @Pooneil1984
    @Pooneil1984 Před 4 lety +1

    Nice follow on story. Another good example of lessons learned. Thanks, Allec.

  • @Jen-X333
    @Jen-X333 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for another great video and please keep doing these older ones.

  • @Martmns
    @Martmns Před 4 lety +1

    Amazing and fortuitous that everyone survived! Even more amazing was the fact that the plane was salvaged, repaired and went on to fly for another 33 years!

  • @steveturner3999
    @steveturner3999 Před 4 lety +1

    I remember when this happened as when I was a kid I was (as am now) fascinated by all things aviation. I still after all these years cannot believe the lack of outward structural damage this plane displayed. I know it was horribly expensive to repair but to see it lifted in one piece and set on a barge? Wow!

  • @richardferguson5516
    @richardferguson5516 Před 4 lety +8

    I was working at SFO for Western Airlines part time while attending the College of San Mateo. Heavy fog that day. From the campus there is a great view of the airport but not where the DC-8 plane landed 2.5 miles short in 10 feet of water. I originally thought the Captain had later committed suicide, but that was not true. It took just 2-3 days to remove the plane and the DC-8 get those potential corrosive Magnesium alloyed wheel out of the reactive salt water ASAP and she (DC-8) returned to service Months later.

  • @yogeshsh2575
    @yogeshsh2575 Před 4 lety +8

    We can't ignore the fact that everyone survived the unintentional water landing!

    • @B3Band
      @B3Band Před 4 lety

      Who the fuck is ignoring it? It's mentioned in every other comment!

  • @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043

    Yikes. Crew and pax were incredibly fortunate. The part about the Sperry Flight System eerily reminds me of the Boeing MAX8.

    • @watershed44
      @watershed44 Před 4 lety +4

      @gomphrena -beautiful flower-
      Yes it does, this was a very timely video by Alec, I wonder if the MCAS disasters was on his mind when he chose this incident?

    • @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043
      @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043 Před 4 lety +2

      watershed44 • Good question!

    • @ShroomKeppie
      @ShroomKeppie Před 4 lety +4

      Interesting that the pilots didn't blame the Sperry Flight System, but their lack of training on it. The Boeing MCAS flew 41,000 cycles and over 100,000 hours without a crash before a couple of sketchy crews, one with a 400-hour copilot, planted two aircraft into terrain, and got an entire fleet grounded.

    • @southpakrules
      @southpakrules Před 4 lety +2

      Huge difference. They knew about the Sperry system, albeit poorly trained. MCAS functions on the other hand was a top secret.

    • @hellkell8693
      @hellkell8693 Před 4 lety

      It was the Sperry Flight Director system. Two different systems entirely. Nothing similar to the two other accidents.

  • @paulantonio740
    @paulantonio740 Před 8 měsíci

    On Sundays our grandfather would drive us from San Francisco to San Mateo for lunch at great-grandmother's house. The drives down 101 were always uneventful but one Sunday morning there it was -- a 4-engine jet airliner floating in the Bay. Even though I was only 3 years old, I remember that image like it was yesterday. Thanks for the video.

  • @breesco
    @breesco Před 4 lety +1

    Another fine, instructive video. Well done!

  • @davepatrick4103
    @davepatrick4103 Před 4 lety

    Many years ago. Back in the 70s I was in a Hyatt hotel overlooking the SF bay and my dad told this story and now you have made a video on it. That’s so kool

  • @alainrheault6579
    @alainrheault6579 Před 4 lety

    Excellent video, as usual !!!

  • @lindadavies6109
    @lindadavies6109 Před 4 lety +2

    Excellent and informative video Allec, thank you for all the hard work you put in.
    Greetings from South Africa 🇿🇦

  • @JM-pz6bh
    @JM-pz6bh Před 4 lety

    I grew up near the airport and my mom talked of this crash a couple of times but until now I didn’t know for sure if was real. I am relieved that everyone survived and the plane was put back into service. Thanks for posting this.

  • @LizFromDecencyUnited
    @LizFromDecencyUnited Před 4 lety +1

    It's astounding they were able to ditch in the Bay, with everyone surviving, not to mention being able to salvage the aircraft! For an 'I fucked up' situation, the outcome was miraculous!

  • @bobstewart8032
    @bobstewart8032 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank God everyone survived. The plane looked relatively intact.

  • @andyrichardsvideovlogs8835

    Very good. These older incidents are much more interesting if harder to research 👍👍👍

  • @macman975
    @macman975 Před 4 lety +5

    "I was Captain Asoh's flight instructor"
    ~ TK Kirkland

  • @haysfordays
    @haysfordays Před 4 lety +2

    Who else finds the history of the surviving planes to be one of the more fascinating aspects of these?

  • @a.walters123
    @a.walters123 Před 4 lety

    It’s an absolute miracle that the aircraft did not break apart upon impact, and that everyone survived. This is maybe one of a handful of successful water landings ever.

    • @WMAcadet
      @WMAcadet Před 4 lety

      No miracle. The DC-8 is the strongest airframe I have ever flown, and I've flown many. High rate descents are made with reverse thrust on the inboard engines.

  • @MichaelBrown-ny3et
    @MichaelBrown-ny3et Před 4 lety +1

    At 2:36 the Altimeter was still at 29.92, instead of new altimeter setting. It’s amazing how intact airframe was after it was pulled out of the water.

  • @a3bilbaneo842
    @a3bilbaneo842 Před 4 lety +34

    Could you do the 2002 China Airlines 611 crash? A 747 that lost its entire empennage due to damage from a tailstrike 22 years before. Quite similar to JAl123.

    • @LipeLipe-mr7ww
      @LipeLipe-mr7ww Před 4 lety +1

      I'm saying lamia flight 2933

    • @a3bilbaneo842
      @a3bilbaneo842 Před 4 lety +1

      Lipe123 Lipe123 i think that one has already been reconstructed in fs by 3 aviation accidents youtubers. Nobody did ci611

    • @LipeLipe-mr7ww
      @LipeLipe-mr7ww Před 4 lety

      @@a3bilbaneo842 lamia 2933 do that

    • @LipeLipe-mr7ww
      @LipeLipe-mr7ww Před 4 lety

      Turkish airlines flight.6491 January 2017

  • @TheOmega13a
    @TheOmega13a Před 4 lety

    I'm a resident of the San Francisco Bay Area and it seems like every time SFO does a drill for a plane crash, they choose some variation this scenario.
    It should be noted this crash ended as well as it did because the plane was properly configured for landing and San Francisco Bay is shallow in that area. The crash also happened at low tide so it was really shallow at the time. The plane didn't float or sink. It was just resting on the mud.

  • @spensert4933
    @spensert4933 Před 4 lety +2

    What an Asho!

  • @howierader8917
    @howierader8917 Před 4 lety

    Excellent vid...

  • @hectorzambrano4092
    @hectorzambrano4092 Před 4 lety +7

    Good thing this DC-8 had a second chance before it's death in 2001.

  • @KenPryor
    @KenPryor Před 4 lety

    Great video! I didn't know about this crash.

  • @skatedonut952
    @skatedonut952 Před 4 lety

    It’s great hearing everyone survived something that was probably horrifying. I’m glad everyone made it through this

  • @radudeATL
    @radudeATL Před 4 lety

    Love your videos, they are so well done. I know you have a winning formula here, but have you considered doing voice overs to along with your text?

  • @madmike7720
    @madmike7720 Před 4 lety +7

    JAL Flight 2 celebrates for saving everyone....
    While JAL Flight 350 is still crying

  • @CONTACTLIGHTTOMMY
    @CONTACTLIGHTTOMMY Před 4 lety +1

    Amazing that they repaired it after saltwater immersion. And it performed ok afterwards.
    Must have been a very smooth water landing.

  • @matismf
    @matismf Před 4 lety

    It is good to see that Captain Asoh was honest!

  • @JoshuasPHXAviation
    @JoshuasPHXAviation Před 4 lety +60

    I would say to this crash, Miracle On the San Francisco bay.

    • @Dunkaroos248
      @Dunkaroos248 Před 4 lety +3

      Not a miracle. Sully is a hero because he intentionally landed in the Hudson, saving everyone’s lives. This captain fucked up so hard it’s amazingly lucky that he didn’t kill everyone on the plane. He dishonored his family and country terribly and I’m surprised he didn’t commit suicide to save face.

    • @dunamoose3446
      @dunamoose3446 Před 4 lety +3

      @@Dunkaroos248 bruh then its even more of a miracle

    • @canis582
      @canis582 Před 4 lety

      @@dunamoose3446 bruh, this is like telling the Hulkamaniacs that Andre was slammed in Mexico

    • @Maplelust
      @Maplelust Před 4 lety

      miracle? NO.

  • @Rodgerball
    @Rodgerball Před 4 lety +1

    I was a DC-8 captain for Emery Worldwide Airlines from 1988 to 1999. Richard (Dick) Fahning was my flight engineer on numerous occasions and his son Frank related this story to me. One evening on a layover, over an adult beverage, Dick, who was normally quite laconic, related this story to me. He said that the Captain never looked outside while the first officer was unsure about what he saw just before they impacted the water This was also a time before CRM (cockpit resource management), where the captain's word was god, law and final. Dick says that he looked out the forward windshield and saw SF bay coming up toward them and instantly reached up and shoved all 4 thrust levers (throttles) forward, but that it was too late and all that happened was that the plane's pitch attitude went from 2 degrees nose down to 3 or so degrees nose up. As luck would have it, that was what was needed for a perfect water touchdown ala Sully. Dick said that the captain committed suicide a year or so after the accident. Dick was a true pro and had forgotten more than most pilots will ever know about the DC-8 and flying in general. His son Frank still resides in Northern California and was also an Air Force flight engineer at Travis AFB and later at Emery also on the DC-8.

    • @michaelsaxton1606
      @michaelsaxton1606 Před 3 lety

      Dick Fahning was my next door neighbor in Newark Ca and a great friend before he retired from flying and moved up to the ‘Gold Country’ above Sacramento. He confirmed this story exactly as you state it. It was his firewalling the throttles that caused the aircraft to flair enough so that it could settle into the mud flats and not rip the gear off . It was that flair that kept the aircraft in one piece.

  • @skinsfan4101
    @skinsfan4101 Před 4 lety

    First video of yours that I could find humorous!

  • @richdiddens4059
    @richdiddens4059 Před rokem

    My dad was playing golf about 250 yards away when this happened. I was in high school about a mile away. We both remembered the weather as being very hazy with patchy fog. Where it landed was 10 feet deep at high tide and about 4 at low tide.

  • @shizzler7176
    @shizzler7176 Před 4 lety +2

    Water must have just been smooth as glass. An unplanned water landing and the plane is not even a writeoff, had it had floats there would probably not have even been damage. Incredible.

    • @randallking775
      @randallking775 Před 2 lety

      I think SF bay was just the right depth where they landed. I think the baggage compartment was filled with water, so all of the luggage was a loss and JAL had to reimburse the passengers for the lost luggage.

  • @Maloyo
    @Maloyo Před 4 lety +4

    What a fascinating story and great video. Scary that the crew (and other JAL crews) had no idea how to use this system and that this only became known after an incident. Could have been a real tragedy. Glad it wasn't.

  • @CaseyFinSF
    @CaseyFinSF Před 4 lety +1

    I was 11 when that happened but don't recall hearing about it on the news probably because everyone survived...lucky day for everyone.
    It was also just one of many things going on in San Francisco and other places in that historic year.

  • @patriciamariemitchel
    @patriciamariemitchel Před 4 lety

    Everyone survived! This crew did by accident what Sully did on purpose; plus, saved the plane! Pulling up when they did allowed them to hit the water at the perfect angle for sure! Incredible!

  • @guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248

    Absolutely astonished at the lack of damage to this beast of an aircraft after ditching in the ocean. Amazed further that this plane WAS REPAIRED and flew into the next century!

  • @clarsach29
    @clarsach29 Před 2 lety

    I imagine being told that delaying his turn was delaying other traffic did not help Capt. Asoh's stress levels at this critical juncture in the flight....rare to hear ATCs reproving a crew

  • @invertedreality4473
    @invertedreality4473 Před 4 lety +5

    Why didn't they go around when they didn't have the runway in sight at MDA?

  • @jenniferreeves6613
    @jenniferreeves6613 Před 4 lety +1

    Every one survived wow god bless their hearts

  • @motorTranz
    @motorTranz Před 4 lety

    Great story. Thanks.

  • @Kevin_747
    @Kevin_747 Před 4 lety +8

    When used properly the Sperry Flight Director was as accurate as anything out there. In the 90's I trained a lot of younger pilots on the DC8 that were coming from nicer equipment. The Sperry was quite a challenge for them.

  • @watershed44
    @watershed44 Před 4 lety +21

    @Allec Joshua Ibay
    What happened to Captain Asho after this accident? Did he ever continue to fly?
    Thanks for your work friend!

    • @PapiDoesIt
      @PapiDoesIt Před 4 lety +6

      Same thing I was wondering. It seems he would be cleared to fly again after more training with the Sperry system.

    • @TheOmega13a
      @TheOmega13a Před 4 lety +4

      @@PapiDoesIt If I recall, he was allowed to fly again but not as a Captain.

    • @douglasburnside
      @douglasburnside Před 4 lety +9

      They spent $4,000,000 educating him -- they're not going to fire him after that!

    • @watershed44
      @watershed44 Před 4 lety

      @Brandon Amaro
      Thanks for replying. Can you cite the source?

    • @watershed44
      @watershed44 Před 4 lety

      @Douglas Burnside
      Well what is the back story if you know it?

  • @rogerbivins9144
    @rogerbivins9144 Před 4 lety

    You absolutely have no choice but to give respect to this pilot.
    Right there in the thick of the chaos, and probably while still in a foreign (to him) country, and being interrogated by foreigners, A man stands up, squares the burden on himself with zero excuse.
    From this bit of information, it would seem his real negligence, along with apparently every other Japan Airline pilot, was failing to insist on sufficient training to feel / become proficient in the AP systems, but, "I fucked up", in this scenario, almost has an artistic ring to it.

  • @astrodiver1
    @astrodiver1 Před 4 lety +2

    This one was interesting!

  • @barefooboy17
    @barefooboy17 Před 4 lety

    I was 2 years old at the time of this crash and we lived in San Bruno which is right next to SFO. My parents remembered the day when this happened and my dad among others drove down by the bay to see the plane sitting in the water and also witnessed the crane pulling the plane out.

  • @youneverknow1316
    @youneverknow1316 Před 2 lety

    I remember my mom taking my brother and I to Coyote Point to see the plane. It was an odd sight-seeing the plane sitting in the SF Bay.

  • @crisprtalk6963
    @crisprtalk6963 Před 4 lety

    Flight 2. Love the simplicity.

  • @catherinesophiereese672

    Loved the actual post crash pictures of the craft but a bit too long on technicalities for me. Thank you!

  • @michaelfiller3452
    @michaelfiller3452 Před 4 lety

    Another well produced and interesting video. My only critique would be, because the title gave away the outcome, as I was watching I paid attention to the instruments, particularly altimeter. The pilots were given an altimeter setting of 30.31, but in every shot of the instrument the device was set to 29.92. I don't know if it is possible in the simulation software to adjust it. Since there were close ups several times on the altimeter I noticed the discrepancy.
    Otherwise a very good production. Thanks.

  • @theobserver4214
    @theobserver4214 Před 4 lety +1

    6:09 that’s a hard landing on water. Miracle they survived and the aircraft apparently survived well enough to be repaired

  • @eternal5930
    @eternal5930 Před 4 lety +1

    I am just happy everyone lived

  • @johnny5805
    @johnny5805 Před 4 lety +3

    So effectively, Captain Asoh was Sully before Sully was Sully !
    He landed even more perfectly ! He didn't even lose a wheel, or an engine.
    Even Wikipedia says "None of the 96 passengers or 11 crew were injured in the landing."

  • @TheRimeOfTheAncientMariner

    Incredible no one died and the plane returned to service!

  • @ecphorizer
    @ecphorizer Před 4 lety

    I remember this incident and passed by it a couple days after. They were pretty fortunate because the bay between Coyote Point and the airport is pretty much mudflats and average depth is 5'. Pretty embarrassing, though.

  • @kixigvak
    @kixigvak Před 3 lety

    A friend of mine and I drove to Coyote Point where guys in pleasure boats were taking the curious for rides around the plane. I shot photos, which I still have.

  • @timonsolus
    @timonsolus Před 4 lety

    Love these old planes. Analogue is awesome, digital is for dummies!

  • @tammyrogne1471
    @tammyrogne1471 Před 4 lety

    It always makes me 😊 when they all survive!

  • @Chris-Alia
    @Chris-Alia Před 4 lety

    Are your videos 32:9? Your vids always look perfect on my TV.

  • @Heart2HeartBooks
    @Heart2HeartBooks Před 4 lety

    Plane crashed into the ocean..all survive...even the plan! Went on for many more years of flying. And what is more amazing is that the engines were at full thrust when they hit the water....Sturdy plane!

  • @TheGospelQuartetParadise

    The title of this article is misleading. While it would appear to be crashing, it was actually what was classified in today's terms "controlled flight into terrain." The fact was the plane was on final a couple of miles from runway. Coyote Point used to have my favorite landmark there - a Benihana restaurant. The water directly off Coyote point is usually only around 4 feet deep, but on this day the Bay had a higher than normal high Tide, and the water was around 7 feet deep. In fact, the plane suffered minor structural damage, and was in the water for 55 hours, which is probably the reason it cost 4 million dollars to repair it. I remember when it happened, and witnesses had said that it looked like a perfect water landing. Sorry Capt. Sully. I don't think anyone even got their feet wet. The other significant accident as SFO was Asiana Airlines flight 214 in 2013, when Capt We Tu Slo and his crew crashed a 777 onto runway 28L on a clear day. resulting in 3 deaths and 187 injuries, with a quarter of those serious.

  • @mdwilliams79
    @mdwilliams79 Před 4 lety

    Hi Allec, could you do a video on the Uruguayan soccer team's plane crash in the Andes mountains (Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571) in the 1972? I've done some reading about the particulars of the flight and it's an excellent example of pilot error, flying in clouded conditions, lesser technology, etc. Thanks for the great videos!

    • @gerryvandepol8666
      @gerryvandepol8666 Před 4 lety

      Will Mike ...check out the movie Alive... if you haven’t already... 2 thumbs up

  • @starkenterprises2371
    @starkenterprises2371 Před 4 lety

    Remarkable landing, honorable pilot.

  • @ahuehuete4703
    @ahuehuete4703 Před 4 lety

    Interesting that they were able to salvage and repair it.

  • @fleetwin1
    @fleetwin1 Před 4 lety

    Well, everyone survived, so that is a blessing...I understand how the captain felt, oftentimes these new systems are introduced quickly with inadequate training. I'm surprised they were able to save that plane after going down in salt water....Always thought the DC8s were cool....

  • @GEU1164
    @GEU1164 Před 4 lety +8

    Can you do the 1994 Fairchild AFB B-52 Crash video please?

  • @katjafuchs3829
    @katjafuchs3829 Před 4 lety +1

    All of your videos are heartbreaking but that one when the pilot sayed..."here we go..
    ." was the saddest of all...thank you for your work.
    .(sorry for my bad english)

  • @davidfowler7040
    @davidfowler7040 Před 4 lety

    I think that VOR/TAC stands for VOR/TACAN. Tacan was (is?) used be the military. It's sort of a DME that also shows azimuth (direction). When I was in the Air Force, none of our aircraft had straight DMEs, they all had Tacan units. I haven't been in the service since '63, but I'm pretty sure they still use Tacan. Also, that flight engineer's station sure looked small. I haven't been inside a DC-8 cockpit for a long time, but I'm pretty sure that they probably have as much room as a 707 or 727.

  • @leeboatwright8262
    @leeboatwright8262 Před 4 lety

    I was living in SF when this happened and the news showed the plane sitting in the bay.