Rob Schneider has Beef with Patton Oswalt
Vložit
- čas přidán 26. 08. 2022
- Watch the Full Podcast here • Rob Schneider | Club R...
Listen to the Show on all Podcast Apps "Club Random with Bill Maher" podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Bill Maher and Rob Schneider randomly riff on Jay Leno’s early advice to Rob, Rob’s bad behavior during his sitcom career, why Rob moved to Arizona, how Bill and Rob have both been the of jokes on other shows, their mutual love of Team America, Rob’s stint as a nightclub owner in LA, Rob’s big complaint about Patton Oswalt, and what Bill will call his memoirs.
All Social here
www.clubrandom.com
/ club-random-1017764891...
/ clubrandom_
/ clubrandompodcast
/ clubrandompodcast
www.billmaher.com
/ billmaher
/ billmaher - Zábava
Rob looks like a a detective on vacation in Hawaii
That sounds like a fitting plot for his next movie.
He could fear and loath like this.
Or a 1950s reporter covering the discovery of a cadaver under the boardwalk
Hawaii 5-0...?
In the 70s lol
Stoned Bill Maher can be really insufferable. Let Rob finish. None of this is hard to follow.
He’s being a hypocrite as well since he obviously holds a grudge with Kyle Dunnigans impression of him
He interrupts everyone! How the f@ck can he talk with people if he doesn’t let them speak!??
Its not supposed to be an interview. It’s supposed to be a conversation
Bill Maher has been insufferable since trump was elected. I swear the guy does the dirty work for the gop
Sober Bill as well.
“What a pussy this guy is” I love that lol I thought I was the only one who couldn’t stand patton oswalt
When my ex was dying of pancreatic cancer, she was on a stand-up kick to lift her spirts. So we were watching Patton Oswalt, and she blurted out "I can't watch this guy, he looks like a eunuch garden gnome"
Sorry for your loss. Sounds like we lost a good one.
That is funny, my condolences on your wifes passing.
Patton killed his wife too.
@@notwithstanding715 We were separated for about 8 years, but it was amicable. We have children together, but they were adults at the time. I was helping out a bit when she was sick. I'd walk her dog and, other little things. If I wasn't busy I'd stay and watch TV or movie with her. Sometimes the kids would drop by at the same time
So: your wife is skin deep. Judges a book by its cover. Was she disdainful of people more beautiful than her as well?
Robs tenacity wins here, but Jesus Christ, Bill, let your guest finish what they have to contribute.
Yes 100%
He’s a comedian who has his own show and is drunk/high give him a break
Bill trampling all over Rob here
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD!!!!!!!
Exactly!
Say what you want about Rob but he's kinda right about the Oswald Chapelle picture. It was gutless of him to apologize
It was exactly what you would expect from a leftist. They are religious fanatics, they just don't believe in God, so they worship at the alter of political correctness and virtue signaling.
even worse he still hasn't apologized for killing his wife
Why
@@georgezimmerman3334 his wife committed suicide to get away from him
@@christopherallen9580 potato potato
Based Rob is the epitome of what Hollywood should be. Keep it up Rob.
Well..My respect for Rob just went up 1000%. He’s absolutely correct about Patton Oswald.
I guess it must have been pretty low prior to this.
Patton is a right wing nut case!
@@TsuruchiBrian he’s underrated by the non or causal fan of comedy, super fans of stand ups know this guy is legit
Some of the things Patton has said in the past are absolutely appalling and disgusting too. I wouldn't even shake his hand. I know that's contrary to what they talk about here but I would keep my family away from him.
Rob is pure class. Patton killed his wife! He's scum.
"Rob Schneider has Beef with Patton Oswalt!" This summer, rated PG13.
Derp da der
Rob Schneider is… a carrot?!
I was a huge fan but Patton lost me and a lot of fans when he apologized for a picture with Dave Chapelle. That what happens to the spineless.
That’s a very dumb reason to lose someone.
he lost me when he murdered his wife
How is it spineless to stand up for what you believe in even when it's your friend being the bigot?
@@justinlaite5542 he killed his own wife
@@ayyleeuz4892 No he didn't.
Rob Schneider came to my camp in Iraq in 2004 on a USO tour. He's the man, everyone was excited to see him and he was a great sport. He's the man!
I didn't know Rob Schneider was like this. Gotta say Love the energy. We love you Rob
Followed him for a while online before I quit social media, comes across as a genuine, down to earth guy
Rob looks like a time traveling dad just back from taking his kids to Disneyland in 1962..
He likes 70s clothes
😂😂
Yes! Like the shady dad with dog racing addiction in some early 90's raunchy family flick.
Damn.
Lmaoo thanks for that laugh
Wow we finally had an opportunity to have Rob Schneider speak his mind and bill ruined it
Rob Schneider speaking his mind might be the shortest audio clip in history
He was on Glenn Beck last week. Good interview.
@@ElonsDiamondMine
Almost as short as when Bill Belichick showed enthusiasm for Ed Reeds play.
Go check out when he was on the fly on the wall podcast with David spade. It was so good they turned it into two episodes.
Good interview on Glen Beck? The one where a 58 year old man talked about how lucky he and Glen were to have lived in the Era of Jackie Robinson when America was still inclusive? Rob Schneider is a literal idiot. Fits perfectly on Bill's show.
This is so much better than 99% of celebrities podcasts.
Welp just gained huge respect for Rob, love him.
What's a "welp?" Isn't that the sound a baby wolf (cub) or puppy makes? I'm justified in asking.
Patton Oswald makes Rob Reiner look like Joe Rogan.
He’s got issues, and I think his attachment to the ultra-woke is his way of getting validation he needs. Which sucks cause he’s a really funny comic. But he really shouldn’t have apologized for hanging out with Chappell. Kneeling to the woke mob is such a mistake in every scenario. Sarah Silverman’s cancellation should have been a wake up call to everyone trying to appease the woke Twitter mob. I’ll never understand how dressing up in blackface to make fun of dickheads who dress up in blackface is a cancellable offense. But Kimmel covers himself in brown paint to mock a black athlete and he got a pass. I’m not saying he should be cancelled, but Hollywood can’t even set a consistent standard.
Rob Schneider looks like he's starring in a wacky detective film.
lol
Him and Randy quaid should do a movie together
We are ALL starring in a wacky detective film...
@@shampoojones5447 I would unironically love that.
Rob Schneider is a down to earth, cool person. It’s always amplified when he does these interviews with self centered narcissists.
He used to be on a great show called SNL but he doesnt fit in there. Havent heard from him since then
He is a right wing lunatic.
Like bill
@@brandonmartin4071 To you. To me, he's based.
Down to earth?
It's funny how perceptions can be totally different.
Rob Schneider and Brendan Frasier together probably made up over half of every movie I watched growing up
Especially as a 90s and early 2000s kid. Brendan is my childhood actor.
Real ones remember watching The Animal with their friends and dying laughing
I have never seen a movie that starts either one of them. I like comedies.
Fraser. Puts some respect on his name.
@@brownie_shenandoah You must be a special kind or too young/too old to appreciate them.
God, if Bill would just shut up and let the guest finish a single thought without interrupting
Yeah, if Rob would just answer a fucking question without all the vague bs.
He’s not used to having a 50/50 interaction so he’s just constantly trying to overpower the guests.
Stern does the same thing.
@@daniellem1838 only person I’ve seen lately who doesn’t is Joe Rogan. He can actually have a dialogue.
Another one like that but maybe worse is Howie Mandel.
Rob could've easily played Clark Griswold in the Vacation movies 😂😂
LOL 😂 I can definitely see that!
Good call, and I would say he still could.
Chevy was huge back then. Who is rob?
um no
@@persistentpedestrianalien8641 Keep walkin' foreigner.
Man, Bill is always so good about making it about himself. I wouldn't even believe he is a comedian if I was over 30. Asks Rob a question, proceeds to interrupt and talk about himself.
Oh wow, I’m over 30 and I never even knew Bill was a comedian At all.. just as I never knew Joe Rogan has been doing stand up since he was 21. Nothing about these guys say “comedian”
I’m over 30 and Maher is, in fact, not a comedian.
@@happydayz7857 what are you talking about lol?
You don't get this show. It's two people hanging out getting fucked up. It's not Charlie Rose.
@@Ishbikes Well the massive comedy specials say it pretty loudly.
Who would have ever thought that Patton Oswalt would be the kind of guy who would talk shit about you then, when you see him face to face, would be ready to make up and be friends.
Sometimes actors who play little twerp wuss roles aren't acting.
Rob is a living legend
I will always love Rob for all the movies he made and fun he brought to my childhood.
Ok, you liked his movies when you were a kid. Understandable. No adult of sound mind can “love” Schneider’s movies. (Super woke, yeah, Maher, trying to appeal to right wingers. Can’t have it both ways. It’ll catch up with you.)
@@charold3 "Super woke" isn't trying to appeal to "right wingers", it's just a statement of fact. There are plenty on the left who criticize 'wokeness,' by the way lol. The "woke" are absolutely insufferable😂
@@HarryPairatestes363 There *are* super woke people, esp where Maher lives, in LA, and I, too, think they can be stupid, but most of us live where this is a non-issue. Many of us live in states governed by very conservative Republicans who want to destroy schools and libraries, own women’s bodies, and erect their shit-head theocracy. In context, Maher is shrill and absurd, much ado about nothing. But right wingers love their red meat, lies, and Fox News.
@@HarryPairatestes363 There are "plenty on the left" who criticize being awake and aware of social injustice, which is the definition of "woke"?
@Matthew Singer No. Feeling fresh. Thanks for your concern. This “woke” shit is mostly a distraction from Trump’s fascism. There’s simply no comparison between silly, misguided “wokism” and democracy-killing Trumpism!
I love Rob. Love him even more because he's a real person. Those others, wow, fucking monsters of "virtue".
Rob is awesome being himself. He is 100 % correct about snl and the left.
Rob Schneider is as popular as monkeypox.
I disagree entirely
@@marquisdesade3025 disagreement is not allowed in Biden’s America 🇺🇸
@@marquisdesade3025 you obviously have bad taste
@@troymcclure681 must be. Go watch his “you put your weed in there” character some more then.
I like Joe Rogan interviews way more. Joe is WAYYYY more interested in what the guest has to say than what he has to contribute on. He brings out some of the coolest moments. Say what you will about Joe Rogan, but there is a humble genius to what he does.
Joe is the best but these are good as well.
It's nice you have found your host.
It’s called being a nice guy vs a condescending snob
Oh FFS- Rogan’s early episodes are unlistenable!
@@BillWoodillustrator Your point? Everyone starts out as a beginner. Also, Bill Maher has been doing interviews longer than Joe Rogan. Bill didn't just start doing them when he started this podcast. The truth is, Bill is more interested in communicating his own point rather than surfacing the point the other person wants to make.
Rob has put a target on his back just for asking basic questions and having basic concerns. The only reason he isnt more hated by the media and extremist liberals is because hes not that popular. I think hes been bringing up good questions and dialogues , positive conversations throughout the last four or five years and i think hes a very brave person and a God send.
"Rob Schneider is horribly unfunny but I'm a red-pilled incel who likes regurgitated content"
The Ron Paul Liberty Report.
@@stonecold12 Found idiot #110,000,000
You real marrrrrt bro....0_o
@@stonecold12 does somebody having different opinions to you trigger you so much? 😂
I’m so glad Maher has done a double take and has decided to be a rational human being again. Always loved him.
I’m a conservative, but would watch Real time every Friday evening. He lost me when he started going too far left and now he’s coming back to common sense again.
"This is Bill Mahr."
"Oh yeah? What do you do with him?"
"You put your weed in there!"
Finally! We need more content shitting on Oswalt. I still don't understand how he gets work. The "documentary" of his wife's death was horribly self-serving, when it was apparent he knew what was happening, but did nothing, and now he capitalizes on it.
It's almost as if he "murdered" her...
He gets work because he bends over and let's Hollywood defile him as much as they'd like.
He claimed to enjoy raping babies. I dont think he was joking about it. His wife's passing was very suspicious.
I think he just has a few friends in TV and movies and so occasionally they are able to get him a bit part or he is type cast occasionally.
@@nnnickkk That whole thing was suspect as hell.
Jesus Christ. If you need someone to say "Genital Mutilation," Schneider sure has your back!
Rob is a real one. Didn’t expect it. Huge respect for him
I’m a fan of rob but I haven’t been a fan of Maher for a long time but I like what he said here. We need to put our anger away and talk. Most people agree on more things than not. We just need honest and continuous communication and to stop with the “I’m right, you are wrong” rhetoric. I don’t care what you look like or what you are into with other consenting adults, I love you and I hope you feel blessed today and tomorrow. Thank you Bill.
Patton, after he became a widower, completely changed as a comic and a person.
yeah, wonder why that is lol
@@LivinStone92 he doesn’t want to lose his protection from the blackmailers on the left like Bill Cosby did when he made the pound cake speech.
@@DrakusRecords oh weird - and here i assumed the reason he changed as a person after becoming a widow was because you know.... his wife died
Well, his wife died under suspicious circumstances and then he remarried shortly after. It's probably hard to act like the same person after that.
The expectation is for a person to become more adventurous with experiences or trying to form closer bounds with friends and family. Not dive into the deep end on a political ideology to the point that you turn on your friends because of how the wind blows. It's like he cracked and became a conspiracy nut.
I’m a conservative and I like Bill sometimes. He should watch Joe Rogan and get some interview skills - let people finish without throwing yourself into their story about how “the same thing happened to you, but worse…”. Just let them talk and ask follow up questions. There are a thousand threads that you could pull, but you blow past them because you talk about yourself.
Are you saying Joe doesn't interrupt people? I know I haven't heard Joe in a while but he must have changed a lot since I stopped listening. I mean, he isn't as bad as Steve-o, but he could talk over people and not let them finish often enough.
@@engrey they should be recommending Sean Evans, best interviews ever lol
Joe rogans interview skills are not that great. He is a good conversationalist though.
Sh*t he's been on Rogan. I like Bill too, but he's an arrogant ass some times.
You could make a compilation of Joe making dumb interruptions too. They all do it a little in this format. But yeah, Bill is pretty bad about it when he’s high.
I’m no fan of Rob Schneider but he nailed it on the head about why Patton Oswalt is bullshit.
Rob you are a bad ass. Wish more people had balls like you.
Damn rob went hard
Bill Maher's worried about someone being out of line? That's just precious, lmao!
Maher and Schneider complaining about Patton Oswalt being indocrinated?!
What's next, Adolf Hitler and Joseph Goebbels complaining about fashism?
@@maxmeier532 yeah there's no way that Pat Oswald is indoctrinated... he just so happens to share the exact same opinion as all of the other blue checkmarks do. It's purely coincidence.
More of this open discussion without pointing fingers. Thank you Bill.
I had no idea Rob was such a legend. I'd pay just to hear him trash Oswald for an hour.
a good interviewer is someone who lets the other finish.
"America needs a fast." - the smartest thing Bill Maher's EVER said, did not say, and did not realize he said.
I love that he was reluctant to plug his stuff
Cause it’s garbage
When you try to be the most righteous holy guy on Twitter at all times, you get Oswalt.
I can't believe I keep agreeing with everything Bill Baher is saying these days. He's absolutely right about disagreeing with someone and you can still love them. Stop the hate. Let's talk and agree to disagree without hate.
Bills been the exact same. It's just his party became so out of control and went insane.. He somehow became a enemy to them. His values and individual thought scares them because he didn't attach himself to that wolf pack mentality. I've been watching him for a long time and there's a lot i disagreed with but I always respected he never wavered and he was always about freedom of speech and didn't believe in lunatic thought and values.
Disagreeing is hate speech. You haven't figured that out yet?
@@truthbetold1855 isn't amazing that people can't just have a civil discussion anymore?
love ya to death bill, but you gotta learn to can it man! What made Rogan and others podcast gods is that they are absolutely AMAZING listeners! I know how you think! I wanna hear what Rob thinks!
Maybe it's because it's 2 in the morning but your profile picture + you telling Bill Mahar to "can it" has me dying. 😂
I used to hate Rob when I was younger, but the older I get I realize he’s just a real, honest dude. No Hollywood bullshit from him. Ever
'Spending' limited time & energy to "hate" another is ridiculous. Dislike I understand. Get irritated with, same.
Just turn it off. But "hate?" Work on your language, definitions, thoughts & character. What was soooooo upsetting? He's public figure-a celebrity. Actor-comedian. You know (then knew) nothing about him as a person.
Why would anyone hate him?
Oh wow never thought I’d see these 2 together.
Rob on Howard Stern telling Segal stories is the best.
….I just read… the greatest script I’ve ever read….
@@repenter who wrote it?
What happened to letting people finish their sentences? A lost art. Both ways in this case.
Patton lost me many years ago. He's what's wrong with Hollywood.
A guy who barely acts is what's wrong with Hollywood? K
@@brownie_shenandoah wow pretty clueless?
Patton is a very funny comedian, but his wokeness is dragging him down.
Republicans cry about everything. Such entitlement queens
@@SuperSuperdude88 you do know Rob is part of Hollywood right?
Great editing at the end there. Did he get his editor from Fiverr?
I've gained more respect for Rob Schneider today!
This guy has done it all. He has starred in such movies as The Animal, The Hot Chick, The Stapler, A Carrot and Da Derp De Derp Da Teetley Derpee Derpee Dumb
Lmao how could they have been *meaner* like his friend from The Simpsons said? 😆
This comment deserves an award, it should be on south park
he's done it all? He's a marginal talent. C'mon man, the guys a crybaby.
@@gerrydooley951 Obviously, you're not a golfer..
Hehe Rob Schneider derp dee der.
Rob is a real one, few and far between like him in the industry. Respect 💯
I’ve never been a Ron Schneider fan but I saw him open for Adam Sandler and he had the best standup of the night and I was really surprised
Patton Oswalt was funny back in the day. His "look I'm a nerd" act started being tiresome in the mid-two thousands. Sometime when I wasn't paying attention to him, he finished mutating into a contemptable, woke coward.
The problem with comedians like Oswalt is they get too political (especially on social media) and you just alienate people. There is a fine line of using your comedy through politics like Carlin did. Then there’s people like Patton Oswalt that aren’t funny when they delve into politics and end up sounding preachy. Colbert, Kimmel and all the late night liberals have become this too.
Oh poor thing. You don’t like Patton anymore? 😭
I don't know if it's Patton or his fans. But there's more "wooing" than laughter at his shows now.
@@shampoojones5447 I mean, perhaps he doesn’t wanna listen to a comedian who thinks biden is actually a great president, perhaps if you’re gonna be a democrat hack comedian you could at least be an intellectually honest one like bill.
@@terryalan4590 lol. Oh it’s about politics!! Of course! Everything is about politics. 😂 sure sure Einstein.
I have NEVER seen Schneiders special come across Netflix
Cause it’s not good lol
Seeing Patton Oswalt starring in “I Love my Dad” this year is enough to spell out where his career currently sits…
That end part that was cut off when he was talking about the NYT & his friend who was a former CEO of a top 500 sounded like it might of been interesting.
Bill interviews his own Ego, accompanied by Rob Schneider.
“bUt hIs wIfE dIeD” that doesn’t give him an excuse to be a turd
He moved on pretty quick too. I think he was remarried the next year.
Correct.....a year later and he was already remarried
He leveraged that for every thing he could.
"We can disagree but still love each " is the best line of the show. That is what America needs
I love Rob Schneider. He speaks so fast, and its still so funny trash talk 🤣
Damn.. Rob is my hero.. lol
Bill shut up sometimes and let your guest finish a thought.
“Sweetheart, I don’t either” 😂
Nobody on this planet loves the sound of Bill Maher's voice more than Bill Maher.
His favorite conversations are the ones where nobody else is around.
rob schneider has never apologized for a joke in his life, that is the contractual obligation of his benefactor and owner adam sandler.
When nobody expects you to uphold any standards, there really is nobody ever asking you to apologize.
Tf are you all whining about??? Why tf would he apologize for his art? This is literally the definition of why we are all doomed , what you two just said, is literally why we’re doomed
Do you know this? Or are you so woke you’re asleep?
@@ACarter87 they love it. They eat from the trough.
"Please media, add more slop to my trough so I can gorge on some more DERP"
They had an uncle or something in their life that had ignorant views and loved Nascar so these clowns spent the rest of their lives trying to be the opposite.
Now they write emails to peoples employers or sponsors with words like "offensive" and "problematic" or just sit on the sideline cheering others to do it.
That generation raises by single moms are all grown up now..... unnatural hair dye jobs, a disgusting gut, comic and dork conventions, and trying "cancel" people.
Fu**ing losers.
@@maxmeier532 lol hot damn what a burn. Nice. Not my cup of tea either but to each their own.
To be a good interviewer you have to understand your guest is the one that shines and you’re not, I think. Bill wants to take the spotlight so much he can’t let his guests speak.
Glad I stumbled upon this video. My respect for Rob just increased 📈
these guys really love talking over each other
Well well well, I had no idea Rob Schneider was this way! Good on ya Rob! And since when is Patton Oswalt such a genius!? Sheesh....
I never knew how much id love a fired up Rob Schneider
Yeah right when he got fired up. Bill interrupted him. I think Bill forgets he is interviewing and thinks he is at home just talking to friends. He doesnt have a stage manager near by to tell him to shut up.
What did Parton Oswalt say about Schneider in his book? I googled it but can't find any specific quotes.
Personally I was glad Bill pushed to finish HIS point. Maybe I should go back and relisten, but my first time through I noticed Rob interrupted first.
Both are great guys, great video and I wanna look for Rob’s special.
I loved Patton's early work. I couldn't even finish his most recent special.
Politics aside, how awful of a human being does someone have to be to not only apologize for being someone's friend but to stage an Insta pic of you trying to look unknowingly remorseful?
I'd love to see Rob appear as a comic relief character in the next Expendables.
For old time sake. And yeah, Patton has become a soy lord since the Orange Man-itis.
Rob Schneider should do a “Columbo” reboot and he should just play himself. He’d do good
He doesn’t want him talking about Oswald lol😂!
Bill never lets anyone talk on his shows. He just wants to hear himself talk and doesn’t listen enough.
Bill is high as a kite 🤣
“Wait wait….you’ve said three words and I’m confused on why I’m not getting the story yet”
dude rob shneiders a beast i await his return he needs to im so glad to see him making a comeback
Someone should ask old pizza party patton about the mysterious death of his wife
I thought that patton Oswald was sonny and Cher's daughter
Danny DeVito and Rhea Perlman's kid
@@PanasonicTooth oh no! 👏😆
Patton Oswalt looks exactly like a guy who’d apologize for a picture with a friend because people on Twitter told him to.
Who edits these clips?.. they always cutoff mid-sentence
Big fan
Absolutely love Rob... he has values and purpose.
What are those values and what is his purpose?
@@marquisdesade3025 more than you.
@@ClickTheBrick90 that didn’t make sense.
Not to mention you’re automatically trying to act like I’m worthless or something while knowing absolutely nothing about me, so way to go.
I’ll ask again. What are his values and what is his purpose?
@@marquisdesade3025 no bub.. my response made perfect sense.. his morals and values are more than you.. you literally have to question someone else's comment that's has nothing to do with you. Bc you want to bc cool... maybe bc no cares about you like how us no bodies care about a celebrity. So way to go
@@ClickTheBrick90 celebrity does not equal higher morals, that’s honestly a disgusting viewpoint.
So you posting in the first place is to feel cool as well?
I’m not doing anything to be cool. You and I are the only ones seeing this. You just don’t like that I questioned your comment. Both of which still make no sense.
Your argument is dumb. “He’s famous, and I like him, so you’re a loser for disagreeing.”
What are his morals? What’s his philosophy?
You don’t wanna answer because you know his morals and philosophy are sketchy at best.
Oswalt used to be one of my favorites and then he threw his spine away.
Great cut at the end there
Next time Patton Oswalt talks shit about you, respond with laughter instead of anger. Tell him his a comedic genius! Absolutely brilliant! (that should piss him off that you misinterpreted his message, which is likely what he did when he talked about you)
Holy shit, stop interrupting him, Bill! Jesus.
He's High. That's the point, people talking. Grow up!!!
Rob Schneider keeping it real. Finally not another pc woke hollywood person
He also thinks Russia gate was a hoax. Doesn't sound very real to me
When he drew the line on them vaccines I became an instant fan! This was before the plandemic.
@@buckchile614 russia gate was a hoax, it's been proven. That was a set up by crooked killary.
Finally two comedians who are willing to sit down and talk about cancel culture / wokeness. The world desperately needed this perspective.
I haven’t been a fan of Maher for a long time but I like what he said here. We need to put our anger away and talk. Most people agree on more things than not. We just need honest and continuous communication and to stop with the “I’m right, you are wrong” rhetoric. I don’t care what you look like or what you are into with other consenting adults, I love you and I hope you feel blessed today and tomorrow.