Mile Magic! | The 10 Greatest Milers In Horse Racing History | From Frankel & Winx To Goldikova
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- We've been blessed to witness countless equine stars grace the racetrack over the years, with a number of them showcasing their prowess over the distance of one mile.
Racehorses like Frankel, Winx, Maurice, Vodka, Beauty Generation, Goldikova, Tepin, Solow, Brigadier Gerard, Sunline, Lonhro, Northerly, Miesque, Super Impose and Wise Dan all crafted winning sequences over 1600m.
We put the call out to our social media followers to find out who they believe is the world's best horse to race over a mile.
The results are in...
Winx
Trainer: Chris Waller
Jockey: Hugh Bowman
W.S. Cox Plate (2015, 2016, 2017, 2018)
Warwick/Winx Stakes (2016, 2017, 2018)
Queen Elizabeth Stakes (2017, 2018, 2019)
George Ryder Stakes (2016, 2017, 2018, 2019)
Chipping Norton Stakes (2016, 2017, 2018, 2019)
George Main Stakes (2016, 2017, 2018)
Doncaster Handicap (2016)
Caulfield Stakes (2016)
Turnbull Stakes (2017, 2018)
Queensland Oaks (2015)
Epsom Handicap (2015)
Frankel
Trainer: Sir Henry Cecil
Jockey: Tom Queally
2012, 2011 Sussex Stakes (Goodwood Racecourse)
2012 Champion Stakes
2012 Juddmonte International Stakes (York Racecourse)
2012 Queen Anne Stakes
2012 Lockinge Stakes (Newbury Racecourse)
2011 Queen Elizabeth II Stakes
2011 St. James's Palace Stakes
2011 2000 Guineas
2010 Dewhurst Stakes
Brigadier Gerard
Trainer: Dick Hern
Jockey: Joe Mercer
2000 Guineas (1971)
St. James's Palace Stakes (1971)
Sussex Stakes (1971)
Goodwood Mile (1971)
Queen Elizabeth II Stakes (1971 & 1972)
Champion Stakes (1971 & 1972)
Westbury Stakes (1972)
Lockinge Stakes (1972)
Prince of Wales's Stakes (1972)
Eclipse Stakes (1972)
K. George VI & Q. Elizabeth Stakes (1972)
Washington Singer Stakes (1970)
Middle Park Stakes (1970)
Maurice (#モーリス)
Trainer: Noriyuki Hori
Jockey: Ryan Moore Joao Moreira Yuga Kawada
Hong Kong Mile (2015)
Champions Mile (2016)
Tenno Sho autumn (2016)
Hong Kong Cup (2016)
Lord Derby Challenge Trophy (2015)
Yasuda Kinen (2015)
Mile Championship (2015)
Sunline
Trainer: Trevor McKee, Stephen McKee
Jockey: Greg Childs
Hong Kong Mile (2000)
Flight Stakes (1998)
W S Cox Plate (1999 & 2000)
Doncaster Handicap (1999 & 2002)
All Aged Stakes (2000 & 2002)
Coolmore Classic (2000 & 2002)
Waikato Sprint (2001 & 2002)
Manikato Stakes (2000)
Solow
Trainer: Freddy Head
Jockey: Maxime Guyon
Queen Anne Stakes (2015)
Sussex Stakes (2015)
Queen Elizabeth II Stakes (2015)
Prix Quincey (2014)
Prix Daniel Wildenstein (2014)
Dubai Turf (2015)
Prix d'Ispahan (2015)
Tepin
Trainer: Mark Casse
Jockey: Julien Leparoux
Queen Anne Stakes (2016)
Woodbine Mile (2016)
Breeders' Cup Mile (2015)
Delta Princess Stakes (2013)
Churchill Distaff Turf Mile Stakes (2015, 2016)
Just A Game Stakes (2015)
First Lady Stakes (2015)
Endeavour Stakes (2016)
Hillsborough Stakes (2016)
Jenny Wiley Stakes (2016)
Miesque
Trainer: Francois Boutin
Jockey: Freddy Head
Breeders' Cup Mile (1987 & 1988)
Prix de la Salamandre (1986)
Prix Marcel Boussac (1986)
Prix Imprudence (1987)
Poule d'Essai des Pouliches (1987)
Prix du Moulin de Longchamp (1987)
1,000 Guineas (1987)
Prix d'Ispahan (1988)
Prix Jacques Le Marois (1987 & 1988)
Wise Dan
Trainer: Charles LoPresti
Jockey: John Velazquez
Shadwell Turf Mile Stakes, Keeneland (USA) 2014, 2012
Bernard Baruch Handicap, Saratoga (USA) 2014
Woodford Reserve Turf Classic Stakes, Churchill Downs (USA) 2014, 2013
Maker's 46 Mile Stakes, Keeneland (USA) 2014, 2013
Breeders' Cup Mile, Santa Anita (USA) 2013, 2012
Woodbine Mile, Woodbine (Canada) 2013
Fourstardave Handicap, Saratoga (USA) 2013
Firecracker Handicap, Churchill Downs (USA) 2013
Fayette Stakes, Keeneland, (USA) 2011
Goldikova
Trainer: Freddy Head
Jockey: Olivier Peslier
2008 Breeders' Cup Mile
2009 Breeders' Cup Mile
2010 Breeders' Cup Mile
Prix Chloe (2008)
Prix Rothschild (2008, 2009, 2010, 2011)
Prix du Moulin (2008)
Falmouth Stakes (2009)
Prix Jacques Le Marois (2009)
Prix d'Ispahan (2010, 2011)
Queen Anne Stakes (2010)
Prix de la Forêt (2010)
Who do you rate as the world's best miler (1600 metres or eight furlongs)?
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Thank you for introducing Maurice in this movie.
In Japan, Taiki Shuttle is also great miler.
I think the peformance of Beauty Generation in 2018/2019 season can compare with that of Maurice.
That is true. Beauty Generation was a great miler from Hong Kong and his achievements were clearly not forgotten. Japan has really good milers besides Maurice. Don't forget Gran Allegria too. He recently retired after winning 2021 Victoria Mile. He also dominated mile races in this current time.
I think a fantastic miler who often gets overlooked is Zilzal. His performance in the 1989 QE 2 stakes at Ascot is still one of the best mile performances I've ever seen. Polish Precedent was considered unbeatable by the French and Zilzal hammered him. So many great horses and only 10 places to fill but on that performance alone, Zilzal would make my top 10. Glad the two French filles have made this list although I would have placed both a little higher. Obviously there can only be the great Frankel at number 1 and that's where he is. I doubt I will ever see a better horse in my lifetime but we shall see 😊
Can't wait for the video I'm a full time punter these videos help me relax on my days of
Change the p on punter to a c and that's what you are
All these hate comments from mugs lol
@Wayne Harrison
lol
@@eddyfitzgerald1978
lol
@Wayne Harrison yeah right sure you do
I went to my first horse race event when I was 7 yrs old. I have watched horse racing for 55 yrs owned several, slow ones. Winx burst was about 3 furlongs regardless of distance. Flat out for maybe 500 meters. Won over all distances, all directions, sprints all the way up to 2200m/ 11 furlongs, she could have gone further, no horse ever ran her down, amazing horse best thoroughbred ever, her record attests to that. She would run Frankel off his hoofs
You forget she was beaten multiple times? She was great but not a frankel or phar lap
@Zenyatariat Franable Enable is a middle distance horse rather than a miler.
@@richardtugman2773 43 starts,...37 wins...3 places...how is that multiple times......her losses were earlier in her career......still learning.......then 33 straight......how many other greats did that
Stay off the drugs, Frankel would have beaten her by 8L easy
@@irishman6517 not on sectionals.......dreaming
Some great horses here. Hope you guys can do something on the best Belmont Stakes horses in history or mile and a half horses.
Perfect ranking this time!! I think there might have been a place for Kingman and Dubawi though
keith gould True Starcraft also won some notable G1’s. I included Dubawi only because of his win in the Jacques le marois as he beat an amazing filly who was Divine Proportions(even though she was injured in that race/ her only defeat) but yes his sire also could make the list
Dubai Millennium should be in here, OK he was more of a 10 fl horse but was very good over a mile. Very sad he only had 1 crop. Dubawi is the best he produced but was not DM. Look at the 2000 Dubai World Cup. Amazing dirt horse and bred in the purple.
Actually Wise Dan ran 131.75 in the Woodbine Mile on the EP Taylor course which is a course record. I was there and saw that performance. He won with ease and could have easily gone faster. If pushed he could have run in 1:30, or sub 1:30 that day. At the end Johnny Velasquez eased up on him. One of the most brilliant performances at a mile I have ever seen. He’s probably the BEST horse I’ve seen race live at the track.
Times are for idiots,ESPECIALLY THOSE run at one-turn..
Goldikova should be higher. She's the only triple BC Mile winner that crossed the ocean and won in open company.
Very much agreed, and lest we forget too, the only European on the list who was retired with 14 G1 wins to her credit, which certainly was no easy task by any means given the company she faced in Europe and in the states in four different Breeders Cup Mile appearances in 2008, 2009, 2010, & 2011.
Brilliantnash . She was brilliant.
Would Frankel beat the likes of goldakova winx almond eye and alpha centauri giving them the fillies allowance? No chance for me
@@underscore2824 agree enable is underrated superstar why crystal ocean and cracksman had a higher rating not rite for what she's done
Agree with almond eye as well she's special goldakova was a wonder mare as well what she done in the breeders cup probably never be repeated
The great Brigadier Gerard and the veteran Joe Mercer. I clearly remember that race.
At long last an opinion including international runners. Well done.
Ajax, 15 starts at 1 mile for 14 wins and a third many of them at group level.
Winx is the best by far I remember a English reporter game to Oz and was saying Winx ain’t that special and they bring over some UK horseCant remember the horses name but after the race that English reporter said I apologise shes a freak from were she was on the turn he said I would have gave 100-1 with a huge field he said last at the turn and traveled 3wide the whole race was. 16 th on turn still got them all Whats freak best ever I’ve seen and I’ve seen a lot since 1960s but Winx beats them all.
I think it was benbtle. It went on to become a very successful horse. I’m not sure if this is what you’re refering
OMG
How embarrassingly ridiculous this is
@@elgransenor1472 Frankel > Winx Although I think Winx is one of the best 10 horses I have seen so far this century. My list would be Frankel, Ghostzapper, Dubai Millennium, Winx, American Pharoah, Black Caviar, Deep Impact, Enable, Arrogate, Sea the Stars
@@andrewwilliams4283
I can’t deny Winx’s talent and ability nor her longevity and consistency.
I just find it hard to consider her great
No matter how good people think she was they were 33 pretty soft and ultimately hollow victories.
I just don’t rate Hartnell Happy Clapper Humidor or Gailo Chop and the others at all.
Most past great Australian champions ran against far better horses than those.
She just never won a great race against a great opponent
Will you do one on the ten top dirt milers?
So many great performances, check out zafonic. He never got the recognition he deserved.
Mr ML . Yes I do vaguely. Its just that zafonic made such a huge impact in the 1993 two thousand guineas.
There has been so many fantastic horses its hard to recall them all.
Mr ML . He was , who could ever forget his run in the breeders cup,
it was breathtaking.
There was another great miler in the US in the sixties called Dr.Fager, he was phenomenal apparently.
None of them did what Winx did. Simple. 33 straight wins and 27 million in prize money. More Group 1 wins than any other horse. She is the greatest mare of all time.
Prize money is not a great indicator of greatness since prize money has risen a great deal.
@@chuckemeade More group 1s than any other horse? I think you missed that bit :)
I was surprised that they put Winx 3rd . I think she should have been second . I couldn't imagine any horse but Frankel at number 1 though. A freak of nature , and I'm sure I'll never see a horse like him ever again.
Winx did not have to rely on pace-makers to help her to victory. She established her authority all on her own merits. No international horse defeated her.
Don't be soft in the head. It's not about the runs of wins but what the horse beats in the process. No good good beating your own you have to go to Europe or the Breeders Cup to make a top mark.
Super Impose
Goldakova and Winx are top draw mares, but my God, the champion Frankel just takes your breath away, he was just electric. His 2000 Guineas was jaw dropping. To absolutely destroy a classic field by 15 lengths was astounding. I'll never forget that day. The best racehorse of the last 30 years bar none.
@Brian Whitehead I agree that Sea the Stars had an amazing 3 year old season, fantastic in every sense of the word and the time you say, well ground was quicker and he didn't really beat an outstanding generation or the older horse where not world beaters. We horsemen know when a horse is using themselves, has a lot in the tank or has given his/her all. Frankel was so so genuine and always had that will to win, his high cruising speed and extra gear and yes he beat very high quality multiple Group 1 winners, Nathaniel, Excelebration, Zoffany. However it was the way he beat them, he just cruised by top group 1 winners with ease. Even when he stepped up to 10F to win his Juddmonte (13th race), so much pressure on him and Sir Henry, it was magic, thats my fav of his 14 undefined wins. Just a freak and we won't see another like him for many years. It was a privilege ❤
@Brian Whitehead STS did not run his Guineas into a 25 mile per hour head wind!
Totally agree , when I watched Frankel just cruising past group 1winners while on the bridle gave me goosebumps , you have to appreciate greatness when you see it .
Serjeant At Arms from India💫💕 1:35.40 hands & heels in The Maj.P.K.Mehra Memorial Super Mile Cup Class 1(G1) race.
He was the best. ⚡🌟
Oh for heaven's sake! Why isn't Dr. Fager in the top ten? He still holds the North American record for 1 mile on dirt (and with an impost of 134 lbs) - 1:32 1/5 in the Washington Park Handicap at Arlington on August 24, 1968. It was the world record at the time.
no one beats Fager at a mile
Dirt horses v. grass horses; apples and oranges my friend. And no, I'm not downplaying Fager; his effort at that weight was otherworldly. I greatly respect such toughness.
@@comesahorseman Sorry...just from looking at North American records for distances on dirt vs turf it seemed that turf times were faster.
www.equibase.com/about/northamericanrecords.cfm
But I am impressed how European horses run up hill on parts of those turf courses - extremely fit animals.
@@williamlawlor5969 ghostzapper and holy bull woulda made him work...
what was the run up distance for that race? You need to add about a second onto that time to compare to the the rest of the world... possibly more
Then there's Easy Goer, who did it in 1:32 2/5 in the 1989 Gotham. Who made up this list anyway?
Someone with a clear bias toward turf horses
not one of them could stay with Dr Fager at even weight on grass or dirt
Somebody who knows what there talking about, dirt or turf, it's not all about 1/4 mile times, its about the race to the line and how one hour dominates all others. Hence Frankel 1st. End of...
@pauly goodin She ran against nobody's, enough said, and Frankel didn't need pace makers, he had put many of his races to bed by the 6f marker. Enough said....
@pauly goodin He didn't need to, no competition down there, Frankel was a different class. At the end of the day we all have our own opinions but timeform who have been globally rating horses for the last 50 plus years all say he was the undoubtedly the best. 147.... end of
For a better look at sunline check out the 2000 bmw cox plate
‘This should be called turf milers. Agree Frankel is #1 he never lost. Goldikova should be higher for sure. And where is Lure? I never saw the #2 Brigader horse race so I can’t comment on him. So given that I’d have Goldikova #2 and Wise Dan #3 and Lure #4, followed by Winx in #5. So many of these top turf milers here are mares. What an amazing list of equine athletes.
Robert Smale
Yes, it's clearly a turf horse list.
And only one horse pre 1990s I think.
The greatest turf milers of the modern era, perhaps?
I reckon Maurice should be ranked higher than his position on this list. His last 2 wins of his career were over 2000m (Tenno Sho Autumn and Hong Kong Cup) but he has dominated in 1600m races in Japan and he won 2 G1 races in his only 2 G1 starts in HK over 1600m (in fact 3 from 3 in HK although his final G1 win was over 2000m). If he is more recognised outside Japan he should have ranked 2nd on this list at least.
Winx's ranking of 3 was pretty high because, while her record in 1600m was really impressive, her best performances in her career were over 2000m (4 Cox Plates + 3 QE stakes wins said it all). Her 2nd Cox Plate win was mind-blowing considering her rival, Hartnell, won his previous start by at least 3 length while the horse behind Hartnell on that day, Jameka, won the Caulfield Cup in her next start.
yep Maurice is great.he dominated 2 country.
No northerley?
Anyone know who the commentator is for Wise Dan's race? Whoever he is he made a superb job of it - brilliant race and brilliant commentary
Trevor Denman
The commentator for the Wise Dan race is Larry Collmus. He is the race caller for Breeder’s Cup and Triple Crown races on NBC. His call is utilized over the home track announcers to ensure a proper call. I believe he called races on the New York/New Jersey circuit before taking over for Tom Durkin on NBC.
Solow and Tepin lol what on earth are they doing on this list. If you want to talk about milers, Zafonic and Kingman have to be in the discussion, Zilzal as well despite the poor last run. His QEII win against Polish Precedent was top class. Miesque and Goldikova obviously. I dont put Frankel in with the milers as its not fair on them or him, imo his 2 best performances were the Queen Anne at a mile and the Juddmonte at 10f.
racehorses are ridden to beat each other. track records are usually set when the going is firm and the race itself is strongly run.
Ever hear of Dr. Fager? 1:32 1/5 in the 1968 Washington Park Handicap. Hands down, the greatest miler that ever lived.
Amen
Yes he was the best Dirt miler. All of the horses featured are turf milers
I'd say this is a UK compiled list. They will always put Frankel at the top despite his limited racing.
@@marknorris1381 The clock does not lie and on times Frankel is rightfully the best turf miler of all time. He is did after all almost break Ascots track record on good to soft ground and that in itself is a feat almost unheard of in racing.
The clock does not lie and that is why Frankel is rated the best turt miler of all time. In fact Frankel was only just outside Ascots mile track record on ground described as on the soft side of good. A spectacular achievement when you consider who many great milers have raced over Ascots mile and yet couldn't replicate Frankel's time even on fast ground. That aside Frankel could do something none of the other contenders in this montage could do he could just as easily have been best turf sprinter in the world. One final point and this is just my opinion. I honestly believe that Henry never truly got to the bottom of Frankel and i honestly believe there was more to come had they kept him in training of another year.
where's Lure?
In Japan, many people think that Taiki Shuttle is the best miler than Maurice.
Winx! Simply the best! What a legend! 👌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Simply not
How often did Winx race over a mile? I thought she preferred further?
El Gran Senors Guineas win is the greatest performance over a mile I've ever seen.
I’m not taking a shot at Frankel here he is the best miler I’ve ever seen and it’s not even really close but it is true that his time for that guineas win wasn’t amazing? I think I saw someone say the year before they actually ran better overall time or something? Honest question
Fat Boy
I believe that is correct.
But Newmarket is an open Heath, like a huge flat paddock in the middle of open flat countryside.
It's very rare conditions are the same from one year to the next. Wind speed/direction and ground conditions.
It's very exposed to the elements.
Times aren't necessarily a reflection of quality.
I suspect Frankel slowed down a lot in that last 300m.
He was probably lucky there wasn't a really good horse in the race who just waited midfield covered up and came late.
Whilst the Guineas win was visually breathtaking and historically unprecedented he didn't beat any really good horses that day.
El Gran Senor yeah Nah that’s understandable. Different conditions different days different times. I’ve seen horses lead and lead big and win and win big but especially in Europe when often there’s pacemakers you’re just don’t see a horse lead that far at that speed and not stop like they hit a brick wall. A ridiculous performance would have to be the best 3yo performance ever anywhere
Fat Boy
Agreed.
It was the way he won it. No horse had ever won the Guineas that way and I doubt we'll see it again.
However I only consider it my 3rd favourite Guineas of my lifetime.
Brigadier Gerard and El Gran Senor are my two favourite Guineas performances. Equal first and Frankel third.
Fat Boy
I'm not trying to make excuses, it is what it is, but as you watch the horses cross the line in Frankels 2000 Guineas there are four flags in the background showing he was running into a head wind.
Maybe the horses the year before had a headwind as well, I don't know.
But winning like that out in front by yourself into the wind with no cover was pretty remarkable.
Winx in third?? Oh dear, oh dear....her fans will come and beat you severely about the head & shoulders! 😅
@Stephen Bidgood yes. Why not do it? My guess is that her connections got too protective of that win streak. But, who knows, maybe she just didn't travel well. Stay well! 😊
@@comesahorseman Winx lost her first 6 starts but ppl look at that and say Frankel never lost if you put both over 1600mtr up too say 2000mtr Frankel would be beat like stuck to the fence 4 Cox plate and these fools are saying Winx raced against easy opponents Lmao.I don’t know if you remember but there was a racing reporter from England saying Winx ain’t that good and they sent at the time there best middle distance horse I forget his name something like Barney Bullet after the race which the English horse had didactic the tempo and Winx swooped around to sit outside the English horse before the turn and bang she put 3/4/5/ lengths eased down in the last 100m and still brained them Winx is number one I was around when all the other greats back to early 50s Might and power Kingston town Maykabe Diva 3 Melbourne cups in a row but not as good as Winx.
@@steventianias4662 two points:
1) brevity; you lose your audience's attention by loading on too much detail.
2) quality of competition. I have always given Winx ample credit for consistency. But you cannot (honestly) call her the Greatest In The World if she only races against horses in her own back yard.
Winx is no champion... How can you be a champion by only racing in Australia...who did she beat there? I don't care how many straight races she won but to really prove herself she should race in England, USA, or France...never and you guys calling her a champion you guys are joker
@@amedsaid6042 Don't forget Frankel never raced outside UK and Ireland before.
Zenyatta very entertaining
Where is able friend?
モーリスがいるの嬉しい
ウインクス凄まじいな。
I'm her biggest fan 1# fan
Do you think you can put drugged up US horses in the list ?
@JD The yanks do drug their horses, they use lasix which is banned in europe.
@@barbaradyson6951
The yanks also drug themselves lol
Winx was clearly a world class horse capable of winning big races anywhere in the world.
In her final race she was in the back half of her 7yo season and she covered way more ground than Kluger, Happy Clapper, Hartnell.
In her prime and running one off the fence instead of 5 wide she'd have won that by 5 lengths maybe more.
But the point we NH types try and impress on Aussies is that beating Kluger, Happy Clapper, Benbatl, Folkswood, Humidor, Gailo Chop, The United States, the 3yo Highland Reel, Hartnell, Vadamos etc doesn't prove she couldn't be beaten by horses like Cracksman, Poets Word, Canford Cliffs, Excelebration, Crystal Ocean, Enable, Roaring Lion Golden Horn etc.
They are all many lengths better and in a totally different league to the horses Winx beat in Australia.
If she'd raced in Europe from 2015 to 2019 I'm sure we would think she was a great racehorse and she would have won lots of big races - but she wouldn't have gone unbeaten.
Also, beating horses like Kluger, Happy Clapper, Benbatl, Folkswood, Humidor, Gailo Chop, The United States, the 3yo Highland Reel, Hartnell, Vadamos etc doesn't prove she could get anywhere near horses like Sea the Stars or Frankel.
Maybe she would? Maybe she wouldn't? But she was never tested hard enough to make claims like that.
El Gran Senor I agree (as an Aussie) as does timeform.. genuinely believe Sunline was her superior as was So You Think (over 2000m). Her longevity and ability was awesome but she filled a void in Aus racing where a great horse dominated mediocre horses as opposed to a great horse dominating other great horses
Don't forget Highland Reel won 2 HK Vase so he is a worthy opposition to Winx. Also don't forget that, like Winx, Frankel never travelled overseas. I guess it's called "protecting your assets" when you got horses of the calibre of both Winx and Frankel.
@@davidwong6682
Nah mate, totally wrong and/or irrelevant
Highland Reel wasn’t a particularly worthy opponent at that time.
He’d won a weak turf race in America and failed multiple times in Europe prior to the Cox Plate.
At 4 and 5 he was a pretty decent G1 horse but far below the highest class in Europe and at 3 he was nowhere near it.
His run in the Cox Plate was 5 lengths below his best Northern Hemisphere form and his best NH form was many lengths behind the best NH horses.
All the ratings specialists and form supports that.
So really, beating him well below his best was nothing special.
Many horses beat him over the years by as much or further.
With regards to Frankel, it’s not about travelling, it’s about the quality of opposition
The difference between Winx and Frankel was that if Frankel had travelled he would have raced against worse horses than he was running against at home. The best 1600-2000m horses were in Europe.
Why travel to run against worse horses?
Apart from Wise Dan in America there were no horses in the world as good or better than the horses he was beating in England.
But there were dozens of horses in the world better than Humidor Hartnell and Happy Clapper.
If Winx had travelled she most likely would have met better opponents than she met in Australia
Frankel beat many horses in the top 10 in the world at the time.
Winx was beating third raters.
It’s that simple
winx 132 ≫ european horses in2015-2019
that's true
@@elgransenor1472highland reel hater 😂
Dr Fager and Spectacular Bid should be in the top 10. But I don't think any horse of this list would have been confident taking on the GOAT Secretariat over a mile on turf.
onion looked secretariat in the eye and beat him at saratoga
@@williamlawlor5969 ... when Secretariat was running a fever. A few weeks later over the identical distance, Secretariat gave Onion the lead and the inside rail, rounded him up on outside on the far turn, then galloped off under a hand ride to a world record in the Marlboro Cup, with Onion running a similar time to his Saratoga 10-12 lengths back.
@Stephen Bidgood Running when sick is an acceptable excuse. The horse's connections were under huge public pressure to make him run under all circumstances against the trainer and jockey's wishes who say he was not achieving his usually blistering fractions in training. Unfortunately the owner caved in three times for three losses in 1973. But weighing against that was the greatest series of wins in world thoroughbred history, 6 TRs including all three triple crown races and including 2WRs, nearly all on hand rides. Nothing as remotely impressive has been done before or since.
Dr Fagers world record Mile is the best mile performance. Stoles the mile
El Gran Senor would hammer Winks.
Winx third.... lol that says it all.
What was Winxs greatest victory over a mile Nick?
@@elgransenor1472 3 George Main Stakes. Won in the Doncaster Mile... Should I go on?
@@cheapestintown4335
I know she won races over a mile Don, what I’m saying is none of them compare to the victories of the other great milers in this video.
The George Main Stakes doesn’t really measure up on the world stage does it?
@@cheapestintown4335
Who were the world class milers she beat in those three George Mains Don?
Was it Hauriki or Egg Tart?
Where is Kingman?
at the end of the day what are the owners of frankel and winx demanding for their foals, i suggest you better win the lottery to buy one of frankels
If it’s on miles... where’s super impose!!!!
El Gran senor would be the best miler I've ever seen. No disrespect to Frankel who was brilliant also. No way Frankel could have beaten El Gran senor in 2000 guineas as way to free. Chief singer who was second to El Gran senor was top top class.
Lure
Good Ba Ba
Sunline should be higher than 10.
Baaeed will be in here in about a year time what ahorse my favourite reminds me of frankel with its explosive speed
Ryan, that comment didn't age well!
Where is Kingman ??
Somebody forgot about Da Hoss
The 1998 BC might be the biggest comeback of all time.
@@toniearl3497 The greatest comeback since Lazarus
What about run happy
Never won at a mile in any respectable company. Really top class sprinter. Love his kings bishop performance
Wise Dan = # 1 I dont think any of these great milers ever went as fast as Dan. If he puts his head down and doesnt look to the grandstand twice coming down the stretch in his first BC win. Possible world record.
Yeah, unless you remove his run-up advantage... then it's not quite as impressive. No way he could have beaten Winx over a mile
@@bgardiner3354 I love Winx but I do not think she would have a chance unless you get to a mile and a quarter. Then maybe only because Dan never went that far. At a mile, to a mile and and eighth Dan reigns supreme. To Winx's credit I have never seen a horse be so good at varying distances. Her number of Cox Plate wins may never be broken.
@@winst0n888 don't get me wrong... Wise Dan was an outstanding horse... that is stating the obvious... and Winx didn't race another horse near his level in her career. So in some regards Winx's form over a mile is unexposed... there was nothing here that could really test her over a mile... as good a miler as Happy Clapper was Wise Dan would have lapped him. I actually use Wise Dan vs Excellerbration as justification of just how good Frankel must have been. In the BC Mile Wise Dan beat an outstanding group of milers running 1:31.78. The fastest mile Winx ran was, as a 7yo, 1:33.57. Once you account for the run-up, those times are pretty much identical (notwithstanding the fact that times are a poor measure and the fact that US racing seldom publishes the run-up distances. If you hand-time Wise Dan's BC Mile win the trime difference is nearly 2.5 seconds... so the run-up must have been at least 30m or 100 feet). In her prime she'd have gone quicker than that under the right conditions. I honestly think that if they raced 10 times she'd have won more than she lost.
There's also Igugu
This is another league. Igugu not in this class. I can give you 10 better milers in the history of SA racing than Igugu
World Record
Oscar Performance. 1:31.23 carrying. 124 lbs.
The one and only queen Goldikova
Nice to see an Australian horse on the list (ie Winx) but, as some others have mentioned, where is Super Impose? Won the two biggest mile races in Australia (Doncaster and Epsom) in 1990 AND 1991. And these weren't your 6-8 horse fields. These were handicaps with 20 horse fields with Super giving up to 12 kgs (1stone 12lb) to the horses on the minimum and coming from last!!! Watch the 1991 Epsom (in fact, watch all four races).
Frankels guinneas win was far the best of his performances....
keith gould agreed.....was merely saying that was his best performance because he laid it down to em so early in the race and absolutely destroyed the field.....id never seen anything like it at that level before!!!
keith gould yeah just a tad i started in the mid 80s when i was around 10.....obviously saw winx and black caviar who had some close shaves but got the job done over and over again....black caviars ascot win being the closest shave of all....shame winx never came over....
keith gould all ran different years so mission impossible to say whos this and whos that i spose....its all opinion like the guy who made this vid 😁
Deano Carden
While visually spectacular and historically unprecedented I disagree it was his best win.
I understand what you are saying about how he totally monstered and dominated them and it was stunning to watch.
I just think beating good horses is better than demolishing ordinary ones.
His 11 length win at Ascot, his demolition of Canford Cliffs who had just beaten three time Breeders Cup Mile winner Goldikova and his defeat of Cirrus des Aigles on soft ground which CDA loved and missing the start were his best.
The Guineas was stunning and maybe the most exciting to watch and the one that will probably never be matched or repeated by another horse in the future, but not his best.
Just my opinion.
frankel's win in the juddmonte is his greatest performance. anyone who disagree's, that's fine. but he never looked better than that day at york.
Frankel without doubt the greatest of all time....
Hard to compare generations any ear of one sport to another. But with being said Frankel is for me the greatest flat horse I've ever seen. And probably ever will see. People can talk about how he didn't win at longer distances or travel abroad. He smashed the best in the world. Didn't just beat them. Smashed them. So fitting that it was Sir Henry's finest moment towards the end.
Frankel doesn't hold a candle to winx. Winx won 25 Group 1's and won 33 races on the trot. Nothing compares to that
Don Vito
You do know that horses like Benbatl and Hartnell aren't even close to being as good as Excelebration and Canford Cliffs.
Winx would have made him work but he'd have 2-3 lengths on her.
never tried the U.S competition
JD
Who do you mean when you say BC?
Secretariat is the best 1-1/2 mile of all time, with a time of 2:24. That record is still standing today
If you're talking dirt track races in America, yes, but it's well off turf record times.
@keith gould Errrr, yes, I'm well aware of that. Not sure why you're directing your comment at me given you're the one who brought Japanese race times into the conversation.
@keith gould Your comment doesn't make much sense.
1. OP talks about Secretariat's record time that hasn't been broken.
2. You reply to OP citing Horlicks and Almond Eye as two horses having faster times over the same distance (both on turf so from your first reply you're making the comparison you're saying I've made).
3. I reply to OP that it's the record time for dirt racing in the US but point out it's slower than turf times.
4. You reply to me telling me things I already know and which relate more to your own original comment than mine.
5. I reply to you to advise that I already know what you've said and that I don't know why you're commenting directly to me.
6. You reply to me saying you're not being confrontational (when I've not said you are, I've merely asked why you're replying to me). You then say your comment is due to me making the comparison between dirt and turf and that times aren't comparable (when you made that comparison yourself in your first reply to the OP?) Then you talk about track conditions, which, again, is something I already know.
As I said, I don't understand why you are replying to me. I made one simple reply to the OP's post, that's it. If I thought everything was about times I'd be saying Kingston Rule is the greatest ever winner of the Melbourne Cup.
@keith gould Of course this whole thing could be due to the inadequacies of online communication.
@keith gould Ah, cross-posting. I've clearly misunderstood you and then you've misunderstood me. No diatribe on my part, just confusion as to what you were trying to say. Apologies for my side in that.
Missing Golden60 for sure
No Beauty Generation - very not accurate
Sunline should be higher tf
Can see how Tepin beats Kingman.
Frankel...👍
And Goldikova #5. Nope. Loved seeing horses
Its gotta be frankel thats a proper horse. Yeh he didnt have 30 races but i wouldnt if you have the best stud in the world.
Connections retired Frankel weeks before BC Turf Mile, robbing history and racing fans of the match vs Wise Dan. We should consider this a criminal offense.
No contest, Frankel would have destroyed Wise Dan, you cant put these two in the same sentence, let alone the same race. He had nothing left to prove, Frankel was in a totally different league.
@@underscore2824 lol and then you'd wake up
Wise Dan set a track record in that race beating 2nd best Euros. Check it out. Oh well, let's just claim it would have been no contest.
Excelabration only got that high of rating to try and justify frankels rating the simple fact is excelabration was no great shakes
@@rodneymckee8431 if you think that you know nothing about the horse you just mentioned. He won multiple G1 races and the last by 6 lengths. An average group 1 winner is rated about 125, Frankel was miles of him as a 4yo. Please stop bashing and appreciate it
Fair enough but Winx would have picked up Frankel and carried him over 2000m. Black Caviar and Sunline the same over 1200m.
Nah
Frankel was just as good over 2000m... go see his win in the Juddmonte at York in 2012, where he beat a BC Turf winner jogging.
Goldikova should be second bit fifth
Frankel 👍
Frankel is great
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Lou Thurston; No what was a history robbing was Peter moody pulling black caviar out of a race v’s Frankel saying none of these great horses should lose they’re records 🤷🏼♂️
Frankel was ballyregan bob of the horse world IMO
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Whoever made this list is Wrong!! Miesque only 6th??? Tepin lower?? Really bad rankings
Can’t argue with the top two, or winx but miesque was better than Goldikova, and kris, El gran senor, zafonic, Irish river and warning should be on that list, that’s my 10
No 1 should have been Super Impose who won 1990 Doncaster and Epson miles and then again in 1991. The best miler Australia had seen.
Frankel the best ever seen ?
Northerly never lost to sunline and she gets tenth spot???
Winx number 3 haha what a joke, she is the highest stakes earner in the world 33 STRAIGHT wins and a world record amount of group 1 wins in a row… this channel is definitely biased towards horses outside of their continent.
Yo got to be kidding the Greatest Miler Of All Time was DR. FAGER nothing in HISTORY could touch him & remember he did these Milers with 134+ pounds on him I dare any horse in modern era to run 1:32 with that weight
Maurice should be higher if its about miler. Maurice would crush Winx in mile
Brigadier Gerard was a good choice, but I've seen them all and before he got American ringworm Nijinsky the first English triple crown winner since Bahram in 1935 was the best. Frankel never beat that many quality horses and couldn't stay the mile and a half Derby Distance. He's overrated, and it's mainly young people who haven't seen many other champions who think he's the best. You cannot really compare American and English horses either as the Americans generally run on dirt and the English generally run on turf. And as for El Gran Senor if he was as good as some think why didn't Lester speak about him? Lester Piggott said the best horse he rode was Sir Ivor, but this is because he had a good racing brain and he could put him where he wanted him. He said he knew what racing was all about. He knew Nijinsky was the best when he won the King George and Queen Elizabeth Stakes in a canter beating a high class international field. However Nijinsky was highly strung and difficult to handle at times. Yet he won the triple crown and sired 3 Derby winners, no horse that anyone mentions here did that. Mill Reef sired 2, and although beaten by the Brigadier in the Guineas he rapidly improved into becoming an international superstar..
I agree Nijinsky was the best. Doesn't really stay 12 furlongs but won up to 14F. That last furlong burst was all he needed. Sheer class.
Brigadier literally scared everyone off over 10F.
@@tashanmy 100 percent agree cecil never took any chances with frankel never left Britain.
I can't comment on any horse before 95 due to my age 100 percent agree with you about Frankel he bt nothing sea the stars is the best I've ever seen
@@tashanmy good to know I'm not the only 1 who looks past the story of Frankel and judge him on who he bt with was nothing I'm to yough to remember some of them names you have mentioned in my time sea the stars all day Frankel not in the same league as him
You know this video is about the best milers of all time, don’t you?
Not taking anything away from the accomplishments of any of the horses on the list I'll ask this, has any horse on that list gone a mile in
1:32.1/5 while carrying 134 lbs?
Dr. Fager did!
Oscars performance, and Mandurah hold the world record for a mile, 1:31.23, Mister Light once held the world record at 1:31.41 and Elusive Quality once held the world record at 1:31.63
Since the breeders cup is the test of world class competition then let the breeders cup mile be the gage for best milers, and if your favorite miler has a time faster than one on the list below let him/her get in where they fit in.
With that being said here is my list.
1. Tourist. (BC Mile) 1:31.71
2. Wise Dan. (BCM) 1:31.78
3. Val Royal. (BCM) 1:32.05
4. Goldikova (BCM) 1:32.26
5. Uni. (BCM) 1:32.45
Wise Dan. (BCM) 1:32.47
6. Royal Heroine (BCM) 1:32.60
7. Spinning World (BCM) 1:32.60
8. Miesque. (BCM) 1:32.80
9. Lure. (BCM) 1:32.80
These are the 10 fastest performances in the
Breeders Cup Mile.
Though there have been multiple winners of this most prestigious race, only one horse has multiple clockings in the top ten fastest times. "WISE DAN"
On the world stage at a mile
WISE DAN is the overall best!
Times don't equate quality. Goldicova ran a mile in 1:32 and change and was behind canford cliffs who was interns 6 lengths behind Frankel as a 3yo as a 4yo he was a ton better as seen by his performances. Frankel never ran 1:32 but his queen Ann performance was timed in 1:37 yet nobody got close to him
Quick time, Darryl, but he had a run up before the clock started. Bernborough, Australia, won a Doomben Cup under 10 st 11 lb (68 kg). Came from 23rd at the turn in a field of 26 runners. The time was a track record for 11 furlongs.
Winx the greatest ever
Yep, none of these other world champions would have beaten the likes of Happy Clapper, Le Romain, Red Excitement, Kermadec, Sons of John etc
Frankel the best EVER!!
Couldn't agree more with stop go he usually won by a distance but what top miler did he beat excelabration get rail.
It’s obvious, if you use you eyes, when Frankel kicks it’s as if all the other horses in the race suddenly become lame. He’s a freak of nature.
To you maybe but I'll bet you're young. I',m 73 now and seen a lot of horses and there are a few better than Frankel. I wasn't able to see Ribot in the flesh being only 5 when he was running, However I heard all about him when I was 20 from old timers. They said this unbeaten superstar who won all 16 of hi races from 5f to 2miles was the best. I've seen all the old newsreels of him and all the CZcams races and they were right. He won most races by 6-8 lengths and won the Prix De Larc De Triumph twice pulverising the field. Watch some of his races and you'll maybe change. your mind, if you're not too brainwashed.
Well if you're 73 , then maybe you better get you're eyes checked . Because Frankel would have beaten them all .
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solow cant be less than first or second best miler
Hamdi Labiadh Winx number 1 no cap
Stanford Colsin I don’t know this horse
No way tepin or wise dawn were better than LURE...
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I was a Lure fan, but both of Wise Dan's BC Mile times beat both of Lures BC Mile times.
I'd take Lure over Frankel and most of those other milers.
Tepins loss to Tourist would have beaten Lure.
dancing brave would have whooped frankel over a mile
Totally agree would have followed him through and pat would have given him the office ,game over
Winx is number 1 no horse will ever break her records or her dominance
The field Winx took on in this field was truly awful
Daryl Curnow go look at the stats of those horses they quality horses but there was better races they should’ve used and she should’ve been number 1
@@stanfordcolsin6429 Quality horses over 2400..... that was my point, they should have used a Cox Plate win, not that pathetic one.
They used races that were over 1600
@@smokeydokey11 She has much better 1600 G1 wins than that one.
WINX WINS IT ALL, why would you even try to compare WINX to anything other than BLACK CAVIAR?
tell me another joke lol.
@@pramithagayan5920You must be English, are you? Just sit back & relax Fella, watch this one & the rest should be lined up for you.
Just watch the last (17th) (BLUE WITH WHITE POM POM) to 1st in the 3rd Video & you have more in the 111111111111 wins to watch. I hope you don't get bored by the AUSSIE CHAMP. LOLOL SARC. OFF.
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Winx dosent have a perfect record she got beat
@@richardgoldie5923 Your spelling DOESN'T have a perfect record either.
Ok, but I never said I was the best at spelling
How did Frankel make this list
Where is Lure? None of these horses ran a 1:32 and change mile. Frankel is probably the best as he was undefeated, but Lure would (in my opinion) probably of beaten him.
This is a joke list ...it's a insult ...
Frankel better then Winx Ha Ha Ha 33 Wins in a row nothing compares and 21 group ones.Frankel would have looked 2nd rate against Winx and Im not saying Frankel wasn’t a champ but Winx was on his own level by himself they sent the best in the world and Winx crushed them the rating of the best in the World was giving to Winx.Past champs have won one of the hardest races in the world called the cox plate weight for age and handicapped as well Winx won 4cox plates in a row the next best was 3 but not in a row.33 Wins and 21 group one sorry I know I said it before
But just have a look at his last 15 races and you will say oh looks like the bubbles burst but know she found a way to Winx I’ve watched racing all my life at a really young age and seen a lot of champ is by himself.
Wind is a her not a him. And she got her ads kicked by nobodies didn't she? No nobody or Mr horse ever best Frankel
Richard Tugman 1st of all yes I always says he’s yes I know Winx was a Female.However you started your comment with “WIND” Lmaooof@U Frankel never left the country but the big differences are simple in Europe it’s mainly stayers Thats were the moneys at that’s why every year horses around the globe come to Win the Melbourne Cup 3200.Sprinters and middle distance horses are trash they sent them here and they all left losers.Compare Frankels record compared to Winx’s it ain’t even in the same planet.There was a pommy loud mouth racing reporter from England and said will see how good when the English star I think his name was Babel or something like that the Japanese sent there’s as well.They all had 3 goes at Winx and gave them all a start and a beating.After the 3 race the pommy racing reporter said seeing it on TV and seeing “Her” live is unbelievable he said I apologise but until I seen her live and running sectionals that she had to break to win and she did it.Thats from a fool who only believed it when he seen it at the track.Saying things like nothing has beaten certain horses by so many lengths.Now Gtfoh go kick rocks by the highway skid mark.
@@calicoe3133 winx lost 6 times, beat a lot of poor horses in her 33 wins, Frankel never lost and beat multiple group 1 winners, Frankel beats winx by 8L easy
Ad hominem attacks are not valid arguments. If times are for idiots then why bother timing anything or noting course records or any type of speed record. Yes a one turn race should be slightly faster than a two turn race, but the person here claimed that no one had run sub 1:32 mile. That isn’t exactly true. And regardless wasn’t both Easy Goer and Dr Fager races run around one turn? Then maybe we shouldn’t keep any records given that every track surface is different. Secretariat’s 2:24 for the Belmont shouldn’t count either since that is a 1.5 mile course, while most tracks are only 1 mile ovals. And surfaces change all the time. Yet records are kept. And world records are noted for distances and surfaces. All because that is idiotic?! I think not!
The sunline race was down to the jockey having the horse in the right position
Sunline raced from the front in every race.