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I've been POURING over your vids all day; the 'Dev Talk' from 6/21 took me from seeing T&L as a 'new mmo=easy 100 hours' to 'I got to find a GUILD so I can go HAM No-Life'ing this shizz!'
I unfortunately didn't play more than 3 hours on the KR server, so I'll go with GS/Dagger during the CBT, but it's really good to have your opinion on a new playstyle and build. I can't wait for your feedback on staff/dagger. That's one of the other builds I would have considered.
Yes, I can't wait to try a new class. I feel like I will enjoy it alot more, but who knows maybe I won't!
I'm glad i found your videos. I never heard of Throne of Liberty until today. I hope to follow you throughout the games life.
Welcome aboard! Feel free to join our community, discord in the description :)
I played quite a bit in Korean version and I am definitely going staff/bow. I don't like mixing melee and range. Strongest class in Korea when I was playing was, xbow (mid range)/dagger.
Good stuff
miiimicc all love from duramis!!
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Is Greatsword/sword&shield sharing the same set of armor, and traits maybe? If you went staff/dagger, would it be entire 2 sets of armors and traits? If stats growth would be another concern too.
Hay im playing CBT right now and have a question about the boss loot ? How you get the loot ? you just need to hit the boss and whta if i die in the boss fight, do i get still the loot if im laying dead there?
Staff dagger is crazy in mass Zerg n siege you go invisible n cast meteor and 1 shot groups of 3-6+
Facts
do u think a staff wand could do well as more dps orientanted compared to ur staff dagger? i fear staff dagger for me would b too squishy, but it would suck if staff wand is not enough dmg
I play a ranged character 90%. I also think its better as a shotcaller. Staff and Dagger could be interesting. I need to test all the possible combinations. I wonder if staff and shield + sword would be good for Arena later.
Nice, yea I am super excited to play, I am glad I am making the switch, I'll report back with new guides/ content around the build/ playstyle. Thanks for the comment!
Is there any difference between playing Dagger as main weapon or GS as mainweapon? every guide I see is with GS as main but I want to play Daggers. Thanks!
Same question for the rest of combinations, Dagger-Staff or Longbow-Staff. I read something about weapon skill tree but idk
Daggers have off hand chance, so you can strike consecutively, so you would need to see how much dps you can do in 10 seconds vs great sword out on practice dummy. If more on daggers, main daggers.
I’m ready for this game man. I play on console only and we need stuff like this so badly!!! I wish WoW would take the FF14 route so I can play on my ps5 instead of needing a computer! This is exciting, even knowing it’s P2W.
TBH in every MMO i played i was melee, so i will stick to it, because i do like the way how i can control the fight, so i'll mainly focus on dagger/GS as a solo content or pexing and switching to GS/SwordShield for group comp or Team activities
EDIT : I would ask you if there is a difference to took Dagger in first instead of GS or it doesnt change anything ? xD when you choose "main weapon" ?
If I understand correctly, when you activate an ability from your off hand weapon, you temporarily switch to it until the ability finishes activating, the you immediately go back to your main hand. So running around, you are wielding your main.
I don't think it takes any time to switch weapons.
I don't know if your off hand passives apply when you are wielding your main hand, but I think so.
@@antondovydaitis2261 alright thanks for your answer , appreciate 👍😉
currently doing staff/dagger right now. try to pump up your Health. its kinda squishy when high accuracy players targeted you. i got 1.9k evasion already but still therese some can kill me instatly. go boost a little bit more hp just my tip
Thank you for this!
Going wand/dagger with the option of getting staff offhand later down the road on launch
Im doing staff/wand and really only doing wand for the heal but thinking about switching to dagger
I will try Staff/crossbow 😊 so thats nice to see different betw. builds ...
Hope you enjoy!
@@mimicislivettv you too my friend ✌😊 I'm also very excited about the PlayStation implementation.
@@babako79can we play together
thanks for putting these out Mimic, huge help. You're a great speaker
Glad you like them!
I'm so glad they're moving away from the Zerg and putting more guild versus guild and small scale battles
Thank you.
Looking forward to Closed Beta.
You and me both!
can i start solo in this game? like just doing pve dailies and progressing at my own pace? until i'm ready to join a guild and do endgame mp stuff
Yes ofcourse!
One thing I have heard recommended in several places is to immediately join a place holder guild, even if you don't know if you will join them long term.
From what I gather, there are automatic rewards you collect just from being in a guild, at the same time you contribute to the guild itself at no cost to you.
It seems like Mimic's Guild, Next of Kin, is pretty open to temporary members during Closed Beta, but there should be lots of place holder guilds regardless.
You don't even have to group with the guildies, just generate and collect rewards for the stuff you'd be doing anyway.
At least as I understand. CBT will be my first time playing.
New vid about staff/dagger when? Just started on KR after playing CBT and want a build with sets and stats, passives for it.
Few Days
What do you think about Staff vs bow dmg and range ? in other mmorpg i play only mage or archers! and what about the dmg of the staff , no one tried it , all i see on youtube is bow pvp
Staff Bow is very good! lots of range.
bow more dmg, bow more range, bow more consistent dmg, staff good damage and better survive skills, just this, is like staff is good for 15x15 but bow is a god for 15x15 and staff is very good for 5x5 and bow is weak for 5x5
Hello any insight on bow/dagger compared to staff/dagger? I have not played throne&liberty yet but I am definitely interested.
If both are equally powerful, I would say the bow/dagger is probably better, but, if you catch any class w/ no cool downs or escape on the staff/dagger you can get blown up in 1-2 skills.
From ur experience how much burst capabilities have crossbox greatsword?
You will be relying on heavy attacks on this. If xbox/dagger u need some off hand % to be a dps god. Xbow/gs will be likely as dagger/gs but weaker.
Staff/Dagger for the Fire+Poison combo with your Dagger blink skill that does bonus damage for each Fire/Poison/Curse on the target. Venom and pewpew with fire spells then blink in and finish them off. Freeze them with ice if they survive to kite back out. Rinse and repeat. Invis if things get hairy. You have two disengage resets with both DoT and burst damage. You can easily switch to an AoE focus with staff for zergs. Only thing it lacks is sustain. So, yeah, need all the evasion. But building cloth/leather grants you plenty of defense against magic. So you can trait for evasion for melee. But, yeah, that versatility and damage is balanced by the fact you're glass cannon AF!
The irony is that Greatsword/Dagger is your greatest weakness. Which is what you were playing. Time to see how the other side live (read; dies). lul
Facts, I am going to have to go 1600+ melee evasion lol.
@@mimicislivettv this is why I'm going with this for the next test. Seems like the most versatile choice. And I like hybrid classes in games.
Was this changed? Playing on KR right now and Dagger's Shadow Strike doesn't do bonus damage for each fire/poison/curse, not even upgraded. Nor does any other dagger skill. Not sure what I could be missing. The main synergy seems to come from the poison & crit on dagger, mainly the interaction with crit + fire bomb which allows you to get more burning stacks, which can greatly increase the damage of a few big skills.
@@Tiddlebit was it changed!? O.o
@@keldor8302 Seems so. It's not impossible that I'm missing something, but none of the active or passive skills have an effect like that. It's still a fun and strong combo, but for different reasons.
What's up with Crossbone and Dagga? Did you try it and what did you think?
Crossbow/Dagger is probably the highest burst weapon combo in the game, and it has incredible AOE. The problem is, for it to be relevant, you need arch boss weapons, and T2 full traited gear.
So if you intend to play it, you need to swipe, or you will be obliterated in pvp.
interesting idea with sword n shield, but how it usually goes in these korean pvp mmos is that later down the line building "tanky" just doesnt do enough damage to kill anything before it gets healed, as healers get more gear. we'll have to see but I feel like sword n shield is going to be reserved for pure crowd control specs and expect to kill nothing. This may not be the case early on though.
nothhing is pure crowd control in this game, tank is good but nothing kill anyone with a healer heaaling, even crossbow dagger.
is like that... a tank is in your front line, healers will see him attacking someone and will heal her friend... and bow and staff attacking from backline, healers barely see and dont heal.
@@jackribeiro1142 i played the most recent closed beta and didnt like the classes. as you said there is no such thing as pure crowd control tank. only dps classes and healer classes, doesnt feel like a good system, in other pvp mmo like archeage you can build FULL tank and only do crowd control and it is very useful and sought after by guilds. This game very generic class system, probably wont play because of this.
@@yangpaan453 its because is 200x200, aoe controls and aoe damage will lag as fuck for 200x200 or a siege 200x800, but is this, i will play global for like 3, 4 months too, nothing too much, i already play soo much in korea servers and you will like tank for pvp because he tank soo much and can kill one player with a full combo but only one
@@yangpaan453 others assassins is like this too, not only tank, you can kill only one and another one, but bow and staff can reset cooldowns faster and target another player
Can you share a DPS Build Dagger/GS? I really liked your videos but most of them are old, I would like a more updated one
Will do!
can anyone tell me if the character size/height change the size of the shapeshifting? bigger dude, bigger morph?
I don't think this applies
I'm torned between Longbow/Dagger and Staff/Dagger. Any thoughts on why Staff would be better than BOW ?
What I have heard is that Staff has lots of utility, and allows you to kite enemies.
Also, less Magic Resistance out there.
Check my comment for a brief overview.
Staff/dagger is better in zergs because of it's AoE potential, specifically Cloak + Meteor can wipe a clump of people. Makes them really strong at punching a hole in an enemies ranks. Longbow/dagger tends to be better at skirmishing and picking off individuals because it has better single target burst
The thing that stops me from playing staff/dagger is that it can be rough on mana management, although you can work around it by being in a party w/ Longbow users who have Nature's blessing. Just ask them to call out when they are using it in Discord so you can pair it w/ Inner Peace to get back a huge chunk of mana.
This has me concerned. I hate bow in every game ever.
I have a lot of doubts, can you help me?
I'm a solo player, I like PvP, I'm in doubt between staff and dagger
or your build of dagger and greatsword...
SnS is nice but nightmare to do events where u compete with range DDs who kill the mobs before u manage to even touch them XD Dagger alt wep help with it on high skill lvl, but early on u will be behind by other players skill upgrade vise cause barly getting merind and skill books compare to range players. Sad experience, in one point i gave up doing events and instead i went farm open world dg and on 20 min i got more value then i could get in event.
Tankfuly they improve the events a bit but it is still far from enjoyable as tank.
i felt this
how did u guys get into the CBT?
signed up through amazon :)
Yo did you get your email for the beta already I didn't get my key yet..
Sure did!
U already did a video going through your settings?
Yes I did!
i Haven't played the game tho but I'm thinking of playing sword&shield & wand like a paladin just hope is not a meme build
It's one of the most busted IMO.
Hey guys Bow + Crossbow or Bow+ Staff ? :3
Better synergy have bow staff for sure
Bow+crossbow is kinda weird synergy wise. Bow wants you to turret and crossbow wants you to move. Bow/staff works better IMO
link for NA broo?
theres no eu servers?
Mimic is completely sold
facts
Can we focus solely on pve content? Or is pvp required?
Not required.
lol lies... Korean game has always been a pvp focused game in every game ive seen. Like this lvl 24 world boss today in beta. Top lvl 50 guild players will win better loot because on first day beta and koreans are already cap on level plus 4 hitting you. Also, top guild who does the most dmg contribute has better loot chance.
@@NY-qb5bq You literally can do the same boss without doing pvp, what are you on about?
i want to try build dagger/wand
Fire!
uuu what ? you are quitting melee , have to know why , let me see..
Okee,so now i understand it, this change, but maybe u are little bit bored melee also and u see the big future on staff/dagger. THIS STAFF/dagger remind me dragon network l2 stack sub Sh/Aw ❤ from 10y ago 😊 or more
any other way to get keys bruh?
Outside getting the keys by being invited, would need to know someone :( We are fresh out on my end!
Good video. You say um way too much.
It is because I don't script my videos, I shoot them in 1 take, with no editing, I do have a rough outline of topics to talk about, but once I am making points, I just go off the top, thanks.
It's very strange. I like the game. However the whole no class, and it being so easy to switch weapons and be proficient at it... I feel like it take out something. You don't have to commit to your character at all. you can just pick and match. a tank can become an archer at the press of a button. I don't like tgat.
I'm always playing one single character per game. no alt in anything. I choose something and I commit to it. The fact that we can be everytjing at all time... It kinda cancel any importance of the choice of what you play.
Chasing meta sounds like
Just want to try something new, been playing melee for 4 months!
@mimicislivettv I'll give melee a try. Hoping Aion 2 scratches my mmo itch.
For me is staff one of the worste weapons for PVP and i think u didnt play staff at all xDDD When they jump on u since everyone using daggers u will insta die, and mostly u cant even jump out with staff skill cuz u will be silenced...and enjoy casting fire bolt in pvp xD
Combat doesn't feel authentic for some reason. The game reminds me much of Lost Ark with its menus.
It's because there isn't any consequence to your choices. In other mmo, if you choose to be a tank, that's what you are with that char until you respec. You are COMMITED to your choice of role. It gives it importance. But here, you can just be whatever at any time, and it takes away the importance if your choices in the game.
Isnt like a skill tree for each weapon that you have to lvl up so you get its bonuses? You do have to upgrade your weapon to +9 with the right traits aswel. So i dont think you can just change weapons with no consequences. The grind to have the right gear is really time consuming and unless you swipe time gated by how many dungeons you can do per day.@@captainharlock3998
Every time you say 'zerg' it makes me want to play this game less...........and less.........
Haha!
Game is death on arrival
Get used to it, the game doesnt catter to any small scale pvp its all zerging. Tho the Graphics are amazing, combat animations rock.
You are soo gonna miss your Great Sword... Once you go Great Sword there is no going back :P.
That being said... It`s your 2nd character... and you are going boring super min/max meta thing... the Emanated Essence of the best of the previous server... Booooring. Bow/Wand... Because it looks good. Admittedly Staff/Daggers look more hot, and don`t like to people, you just want the Crit Passives for your magic. But Think about it... Bow (which is the next best Great Sword for *ussies) + Wand... The wand is to indulge your manly *ussy need, but also you are obligated to have 2nd weapon too anyway. I mean I don`t even know what the Wand passives are or do they stack well with Bow (they probably don`t)... but who cares... If it is doable in the game it should totally work in some way within the game. Disregard min maxing stats and Bow/Wand it.
I am actually enjoying STAFF!
It wont matter coz everyone in NA wwill just keyboard macro farming 😂
crap
I don’t agree with you lol
I’m running 2h and staff
And I’m running through kids with ease
It’s not built like Korean server.
I think a lot of people have also quit T+L already due to bots/P2W.
I was really lookin foward to this MMO but I think the NA launch will be DOA or very short lived unless they fix these major issues.
Have you play the game tho? This is the first MMORPG that I've played where F2P can still win P2W player.
@@zerad3307 agree af
the bot issue wasn't solved already? I thought they had developed a monster that's supposed to be a bot killer and it was working so far.
I somewhat agree with u, this game will last maybe a good 3-6months before dying (cause it’s new game I give it a bit of time) I got 3 maxed out toons, bots don’t really have any effect in the game to be real they just lower prices in market and the game is pay to win BUT u can’t just drop 10k into the game and be maxed out. I still needa grind out to mats for upgrading (The dust etc ) but eventually once the game gets a bit older the P2W and F2P gapped will really be noticeable.
@@alissonvieira6903so what’s going on at the current moment with bots is The developer of the game got their hands on the bot and are trying to figure out how to stop the situation (Don’t think it’ll stop) but at the moment the bots have changed to moving instead of staying still to counter the AI not killer , hopefully they can’t get this sorted but at the same time I don’t think it’ll happen. Just cause I no the level of the bot and the people who made it.
bro, ur intro too fucking long
sns/gs
The game needs more content honestly, once u get to a point in the game there really isn’t anything to do. And waiting 2hours for a 20min pvp battle is annoying lol,plus if everyone thinks about it … this game have no direction lol (I love this game lol but to be real about it, the game at the current moment has no direction)
so when is this point reached ? having 1000 of hours in or as a casual player with avg. 2hours a day is good ? sounds like the same as new world, people complaining about no endgame are usually those who are no-lifing this game ;)
Tbf, that's how Lineage 1 & 2 were too. Less content at launch, but a decent content cadence. And that's fine.