Windows 11 for Steam Deck Review | Surprisingly Good
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Intro 0:00
Why I installed Windows 11 0:49
Installation was easy 2:17
What's it like? 3:24
Install Steam Deck Tools 4:00
Launching a Game Pass game 5:28
Horizon: Zero Dawn 8:09
Using this with an external monitor 10:52
General thoughts 10:19
Madden 12:04
My conclusion 12:51 - Věda a technologie
There's one setting in advanced power settings that I personally found makes a HUGE difference for performance. In Advanced Power Settings, under PCI Express, turn off Link State Power Management. It drastically improved the experience, removed a lot of stutters in games. It is a repeatable fix as turning it back on instantly brings back the stutters. Windows sees the deck as a laptop and tries to apply the same settings as a laptop to improve battery life. Personally, saw no difference in battery life and big gains in performance.
But do you disable both settings in PCI Express?
I have active performance excellent.
There is no pci express management because there is no pcie on the steam deck it's an SOC
@@wazaagbreak-head6039 The APU still uses PCIe lanes to connect to the integrated GPU, regardless of whether it's an integrated SOC or external
HOLY SHIT IT WORKED OH DAMN THANKS MAN
@@NobleDorito8698 I hope it helped you out. It made a big difference for me.
Quick tip! If you wanna change control types without getting out of game, use the shortcut by holding down menu/start button till you hear beep. Will swap between controller and desktop controls! Love Steam Deck Tools. 😁
Using the STEAM deck as my main computer now and I'm loving it.
Yes, I said Surface Duo at the end. My brain barely functions at this point.
I am also fully aware that Wine is not an emulator and that it actually stands for Wine is not an emulator. My comment was a poor attempt at some very dry humor, much like the name of Wine itself. There have already been enough comments correcting this, thanks lol.
Lol, I was like did I miss something, am I the crazy one.
No, it's me
Make sure to turn off hibernation mode in the power plan. If it goes to sleep too long and turns into hibernation mode, you can't resume the games. Also a good idea to set turn off hard disk after 0 miutes.
Holding down the options button for a few seconds automatically switches between the desktop and x360 controller modes.
Good stuff, thanks
Did a dual boot sd card yesterday with windows 11. Using Steamdeck tools and pleasantly surprised. Plus i can use my launchbox bigbox build.
This video was definitely needed thanks no one actually elaborated that you needed these tools.
That's why I made it, noticed a gap in coverage
@@scaryifliteral awesomeness
Very glad to see it working well! Would like to see a video going into possibly dual booting between windows and steamOS
On a 64gb SSD that seemed like a bad idea lol
@@scaryifliteral Larger SSD's are relatively cheep rn, and the installation is easy. Maybe we could see a vid on that from you
6:54 You can hold options button for 3 seconds to switch between x360 gamepad and desktop controls mode
So many hotkeys to learn lol
Have the 512gb with Win11 and SteamDeck Tools. What a unit when configured properly.
Great video man you got a like and sub.
I have the internal NVMe partitioned to run both SteamOS and Windows 11, and lately I have been using the Windows partition more because I've got back in to Fallout 4 and I am playing the PC GamePass version for the extra achievements. My ROMs are on the memory card, which can be read by both SteamOS and Windows partitions, depending on what OS I am using. I also use an application called Handheld Companion to get Windows to see my Steam controller in games. Took about 6 months of trial and error but I think I now have the perfect Steam Deck :)
I actually preferred steam deck tools over handle companion
I'm very happy sticking with the default OS on my Steam Deck, but not being able to download GamePass games onto it is a pretty glaring flaw for me personally. I know some people are alright with cloud streaming, but it's not there for me yet.
Side note: For some reason I thought Tunic was only on Game Pass for Xbox and I was pretty gutted about that. Didn't realise it's available for PC now. Downloading it now!
Another side note: Horizon Zero Dawn being the "game I need to go back to" is very relatable and I think almost a universal feeling at this point 😂
It's a flaw from Microsoft not having made Game Pass available on Linux, if anything
@@Thornskade
It’s not a bug. It’s a feature. That was done that way so people use windows 😅
@Altefier valve doesn't have TF2, Dota 2 or CSGO on epic, MS store so what makes you think ms would put gamepass on steam? Linux isn't necessarily steam so you should have said "steam" not "linux" no business gives away stuff free. Everything is profit and competition.
@@zeohblitz6969 Game Pass being on a different platform doesn't make it free so no idea what you're talking about. They'd just have access to a broader audience. That isn't the point anyway, the point is that it's not a flaw of the Steam Deck that MS doesn't make Game Pass available there.
@Altefier we live in a capitalist.a free market. Competition. Get it? If you want something from another company, you gotta use their product. Ain't fair? Deal with it. It's life.
Great vid. They need to implement a game pad shortcut to toggle between mouse/kb and Xbox controller rather than alt tabbing to switch modes.
You can also hold options for a couple seconds
If you want to install Windows 10 or 11 without getting rid of your SteamOS installation, remember you can always set up a dual boot system. There are plenty of tutorials about doing this on CZcams.
I would highly recommend installing windows on your SSD instead of SD card. I would get a freezing and crashing mid game with windows on my Extreme Sandisk 512GB .
Can you recommend one?
I know you cannot send a link, but the title of the youtube video would be enough:)
@@protodg6567 hey noob here can i install ssd if i bought the cheapest 64gb deck?
@@AnimeFan-dl4qdUltimate Steam Deck Windows Guide - Getting Started | Internal Drive | External | Micro SD
Author BaldSeaLion
@@balmashev93 Thank you very much:)
They should made it easy to dual boot it. I personally didn't even try yet but heard it was a pain. Good to have both options
Thanks for the great info 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👏🏿👏🏿…,
Glad it was helpful!
Great stuff!! Did you manage to figure out how to enable gyro?
I haven't messed with that just yet actually
windows only on the stem deck was pretty annoying for me just because some games did run better in SteamOS. But what ended up being the best set up for me was partitioning my internal 256 drive in half installing windows and mw2 on one partition and SteamOS w/ elden ring on the other and using 2 sd cards for either boot for extra game storage. That way i can still play my window games which is mainly cod, and still have the stability of steamOS. just note that filling the internal memory to its capacity has caused people issues in the past so i recomend leaving a good 20 gigs free at least
I'm guessing you have to go either ntfs or ext4 on the SDCARDs or is there a way to share them - fat32 is probably not going to work.
@@bradjohnson5323 no 1 256 for windows, a separate 256 for steam os i just swap them defending on which OS im booting. im normally in steam os and only really use the other one if im going to boot into windows and play destiny 2
Well I'm using nfts format on SD card for linux and windows. And so far I can share Steam Library for both OS
@@ebelevics going to do this once i get a bigger sd card, prob a 1tb, just because destiny 2 takes up so much storage, main reason i opted for the second sd card that i wasnt using on my switch lite anyways
Tl;dr: I dual boot
I installed a 1tb ssd at the weekend and set up a duel boot with Steam and Windows 11 both for different games, Steam for the emulation and some smaller games and Windows for Gamepass and those games not on Steam or with DRM. So far so good, new lease of life, may even sell my gaming laptop as I dont think I really need it anymore, still got my rig in the office for the really heavy lifting though 😁
I am in the same boat. How much did you partition your ssd for windows?
@@moegreen5227 I gave Windows about 600gb as I’ve got a 512gb sd card for emu deck and some Steam os games. It’s really only for the games I can’t run on Steam OS. Was really disappointed how badly Battlefield 2042 runs on Windows, a stutter fest even at low settings. Just not worth playing that one. Still to try Black Ops Cold War multiplayer.
I do find Steam OS optimises games so well if they run it’s usually really well. You have to work much harder to find that sweet spot with Windows as you can’t easily change power, add fsr natively or cap to 40fps etc. I have found an app but it’s not very good
amazing review
Was hoping to see you launch steam in windows. I want to see what that experience is like
It's exactly like launching steam in Windows on any PC.
For the 2:00 issue "losing controller functions when returning from sleep"
What you could try is setting global controller layout (I believe) set to off (I can't remember)
I remember you go into steam big picture mode within the desktop mode (so not the "gamepad" mode), fine the game shortcut, go to preferences for the game shortcut, and try disabling global controller there.
I don't have anything within origin I play on my deck but I don't have the same issue you do. I did have the same issue when I played spider man shattered dimensions and that fixed it for me. Anyone let me know how it works for them.
This was one of many fixes I tried. Madden was the culprit, but leaving SteamOS was the only fix lol.
Hmm, how is it in dock? Looking to have a small form factor windows 11 PC machine for general use + some gaming. And streaming from PC for the higher demanding games.
i wonder if its possible to have a windows 10/11 in the ssd and steam OS in the sd card
So do you lose all the performance settings like fps lock, refresh rate and performance overlays when using windows or is there another deck/windows program to add them?
I am really impressed with the Steam Deck OS, what it can do and how it implements things is nothing short of impressive and there is loads of apps in the linux desktop mode.. but.. having to switch between desk top and Deck OS to do some fixes and utilities get a bit old and having very mixed results when getting other game platforms to work is just crap (Ubisoft anyone?)... I patch a lot of these issues by rebuying games through Steam when they are on sale but it's not ideal... Windows just does it all but you then lose some of the things that makes the Deck great and introduce other issues that require work arounds.
I think i will try a windows install on a hard drive and road test it..
Yes you do. But they have tweaks you can install to regain them back but of course, it won’t be as easy to use as having it native in your OS with SteamOS
Are there any info about updating amd drivers ?
I also have a Windows 11 partition on my Steam Deck, but for running Android Apps using WSA. Wish I could have installed Tiny 11, but that came out too late, and I don’t want to reinstall Windows.
Mine is on the way, packaged this morning for dispatch. I told my brother about it and he walked into a cash shop and bought himself one. So as you can imagine I’m feeling pretty left out so thanks for the insightful video keeping me going until my steam deck arrives!
I just bought mine just waiting on it
hello i dont know if you know but is steam deck win10 or 11 is better for gaming ? i already have win 10 but thinking of upgrading to 11
How is the performance? Are the games running worse when Windows is installed than on Linux?
Also not a Linux person and the Steam Deck is the first PC that I've owned/used that ran Linux, though at the same time I actually love that it's Linux, yeah, some games don't work, though relatively few for me since I don't do online gaming type games in general so I don't have the anti-cheat compatibility issue and I don't use game pass or anything Microsoft specific for gaming, however I'm personally hoping the Steam Deck's success will eventually make it viable to ditch Windows entirely on my desktop PC and laptop as at this point I just don't like Windows, I simply use it because I have to for software I use, but I hate all the bloat, poor design changes they keep making, and most of all the insane amounts of data tracking they do, which I find especially unacceptable on software I paid for.
You can debloat it to make it work better for gaming
@@jeffreyali1456 I wonder how well Tiny 11 will work on SteamDeck
@@Takintomori good so far
@@baseballreg123epending on the debloat method you use you can get similar or better performance than tiny 11. Also Tiny has an open source tool to create the iso.
I originally put Windows 11 on my deck, but I’m probably going to dual boot, seeing as Star Wars Kotor crashes on Windows, but worked fine on SteamOS and all my attempted fixes don’t work. Roller Coaster Tycoon doesn’t work on SteamOS, but runs fine on Windows. Sometimes you just need the best of both worlds lol.
Awesome 🫡
Have you figured out how to enable secure boot for valorant? Windows 11 on the steam deck
13:34 I thought I was tripping and accidentally watched a video about installing Windows on the Surface Duo lol
No black bars. Ugh Love it already.
two thing i was able to get windows to work on my steam deck but it only works for a few minutes until it shuts down and yes the battery is fully charged and i cant get the full storge to show on the steam deck please help
Hey Shane I want to buy the steam deck which version do you recommend buying? The 399 version , 529 version, or the 649 version?
399 if you can replace ssd
529 if you happy to use sd cards
649 if you dont want sd cards or ssd update
I bought the 64GB version at launch and it's been fine for me installing games on the SD Card. It's a bit slower to load heavy games, but not a big deal. You can also replace the SSD relatively easy.
@@scaryifliteral awesome thanks for the replay . I was leaning towards the 64gb and just buying a bigger SD.
Had steam deck for a week instantly put windows on it and i would dare say its been a better more smooth experience for me than i had on my “beast pc”. I still cant believe it and i am so happy the steam deck exists
Did you dual boot or erase everything and then install just windows
well I'm planning on getting it on my next 2024 birthday! until then this is going to improve a lot :)) but honestly... that's great! it's running pretty good. all I need pretty sweet! thanks Valve for enabelling this. I don't hate linux, but... if that's my one and all, gotta be windows.
I was able to use gamepass in the standard steamos linux downloading firefox and using the web browser version of gamepass
Does it take much space?on the ssd?
I wonder when oled drivers coming out...
Huge thanks on the Madden testing.
ive been using SD Windows 11 for quiet a while, followed through all the steps and has been good until recently. i noticed that if my SteamDeck is put into sleep mode, nowadays it can wakeup by itself automatically inside the case. i tried so many configuration to disable this via powercfg, disable network wakeup, registry edit but to no avail still. im not sure where did i go wrong this time. i have reformatted the SteamDeck for several times but still have this random wake up issues.
Hey everyone! I'm planning to buy the 64gb version with a 512 sd card. I mainly play indies and 2D games but I heard there is some issues with shader caches on the 64gb version. Any thoughts about my choice?
That's exactly what I'm doing here, no issues for me.
I think you can use cryoutilities 2.0 to move the shader cache to your SD card to save space on the internal 64 gb drive.
if i dual boot, can i make it so windows and steamos access the same sd card?
what about those free to play shooters for PC?
Do you need a dock for mose and keyboard, or you can rock with the touchpads and touch keyboard when you fresh install?
You don't need mouse and keyboard, but it makes things less annoying
You can always buy a bluethooth mouse/keyboard that way you dont have to worry about pluggin in things. If you just want a cheap fix you can alwyas get a USB HUB with USB(C) connection.
How is the workaroud to play games that are no longer available on steam.
Say I have the disc. Can I play it on the windows on steam deck? If so, how do I install it?
By running windows on steam deck is it still the same steps to install emudeck
Goooood MORNING!!!
Thanks for the review. Really answered many of my concerns. One thing tho, have you tried WeMod on it with windows 11?
I have not.
@@scaryifliteral ah I see. Well i hope you'll be able to consider it in the future for testing. New sub btw. Really loving your content👍🏻 keep it up
When you install windows 11, Can you go back to game mode and be baxk on the steam game library?
Personally i dual boot steamOS and Windows wich imo is the best way to run the steam deck. I use windows for the games that arent supported on steamOS and use steamOS for all the supported games and my emulators :)
Man the steamdeck is one of the best handhelds ever created 🔥
Rog Ally is coming bro
@@farhan8079 but will be overpriced as hell
@@anisafza9493 naa i think the price would be around the steamdeck or slightly higher, just my thoughts.
@@farhan8079slightly my bro said. Almost double it
Hey, on W11 the Controller of SDT is always updating (the icon is always little bit blinking). Many times i have no controller connection when i restart the system... i have reinstalled everything even Windows itself - same result everytime..... 🤷♂️
Have you tried Windows 11 Tiny11? Bloatware free Custom Windows 11 is light enough to run on 500mb of RAM. (At least work)
Have you tried emulators while running windows?
What about drivers? Wouldn't you need that for windows to identify the internal GPU?
3:14
Hi what controls do you have to download for this … so you can switch between the two thanks
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SteamOS is in my opinion the better experience overall, and it was a good choice going with Linux, but I am glad to see that Windows can work if you need it to. This is coming from someone that absolutely despises Windows.
Options are good.
So installing Windows on it pretty much makes it a ROG Ally? I have an Ally now and love being able to install anything but may return and get Deck on sale, upgraded SSD and install W11 just for emulation goodness like Teknoparrot and the such.
How’s the ally working for you might get one
I can’t play mlb show (game pass) on the deck
Ive been using xbox beta for playing xbox on steam Resolution isnt that good but works
nice vid btw
valve's professionalism is god tier
Really hope Destiny 2 might work through windows
If you delete all the partitions how do you revert back to stock/OEM? Or is that in BIOS or something?
I also don't think thats a smart thing to do, and I don't think u can revert back if you do that.
I think I will be waiting for valve to release dual booting officially sometime next year(hopefully).
Can you run GEFORCE NOW on the Steam Deck?
I like this guy
Cool!
May I ask if anyone's deck in win 11, awake from sleep automatically without push any button?
very familiar with github, but how and where do I install it to the steamdeck?
Just download the EXE file and run it. No need to change any locations from what it does by default. Just click next a bunch of times lol.
Greetz from Germany. Another nice video. Thx for it. How about battery life under windows? Just as long as on SteamOS? I'm actually thinking about buying a Steam Deck and using it with Windows.
So far, the battery has been fairly similar.
I had windows on my deck for about 8 months now. It solved the main issue that i had with Linux compatibility. I have no regrets. If you miss the clean os there is a Beta Steam big picture mode.
How reliable is launching gamepass games from inside Steam Big Picture? On my windows machine that's a big no no
I haven’t had an issue.
What bout playing next gen game like hogwarr legacy bro ? Help ? Do u have any issue ?
@@fachrimrachman153 I haven’t tried it yet. Last game I played was miles morales
Did you dual boot or did you erase everything and then put windows on your steam deck
I have a 1tb ssd for Linux and a 256gb sd card for windows. I just updated from 10 to 11 and now Warzone 2 won't start because drivers and amd not installing updates... Keeps asking me to update gpu drivers but amd installer can't find them
@13:34 Windows 11 on the surface Duo!? Lool
Congrats, you're 234325th to scroll past the pinned comment to tell me
Thank you for the excellent video sir. I have one particular question though, don't know if you can help me. Since I don't have an external monitor but I do have a laptop (with windows on it), if I install windows on my steam deck can I use the dock so that I can turn my laptop in an external monitor? Don't know if it's possible. Thank you so much for your time and your videos
I finally have the ultimate steam deck. 3 tb storage, windows + steam os installed.
does it work on oled
I got it working today and for me loke, my folder thing gets unresponsive and its kinda a mess tbh so might go back to windows 10
Your folder thing?
Can you play steam games on windows 11 steamdeck no problem?
What about fan noise
Which is better install windows os to main SSD or install it in SD or external?
SD Card is very slow from what I have heard.
oh thank you, another question is it ok or still possible to directly intalled windows 11 to 256GB NVMe SDD?
I'm kind of interested in switching to windows for compatibility but idk if it's worth it. I mean the whole steam input for controls is a game changer for portable pcs it makes it so the controls work with almost everything even straight mouse and keyboard games. I like steam os is just the compatibility that kind of hurts it for because it won't run everything some things require alot of tweaking others won't work at all.
Steam Input works fine on Windows, it's just a base Steam feature. You can also dual boot and get the SteamOS UI by running Steam Big Picture.
Wait sleep mode works for games? Ok this is tempting now.
Just make sure you turn off hibernation and it's fine. Just like on your desktop.
How do I play my native steam games with windows?
Install steam?
@@scaryifliteralLMAO
I really really really want windows on my steam deck, however i am limited bc i dont have a pc. I am sick in the head of using linux. Please help me!
Great
how much memory did you allocate for win 11?
All of it? This isn't a dual boot.
Did you installed windows on steam deck ssd or external ssd or micro sd card? Is it possible to install windows on steam deck ssd without uninstalling steam os?
I believe you can dual boot so you have both steam os and windows 11
When I installed the windows. My windows says it needs to be activated and I need an activation key?
Windows is not a free software. You can get them cheap at ebay or g2a iirc.
Also worth noting that if you also have a windows PC, you can natively cast the screen wirelessly to another windows machine on the same network. It's absolutely not the most stable solution so not useable for gaming but if you're exploring or tinkering with settings etc I highly recommend if you don't have a physical connection to hand
Is the desktop experience faster than Steam OS Desktop Mode??
Pretty similar
the only thing i know for sure ya gotta use windows for still is
1.) minecraft bedrock edition 2.) destiny 2 3.) adobe products/photoshop/etc/heck even affinity photo ):
I Use a M.2SSD to load windows 10 on the deck it works great just like a regular PC I play WWE2K on it ans the 22 Works great Kinda worried about 23 tho
Question: my steam deck is on windows 11 when i connect it to external monitor the display is on 1280 x 800 only and its lock I can't increased the resolution to 4k.. sorry my bad english. By the way i use usb-c connector. any idea how i can't increased the resolution? 😢
Are all your drivers installed? I can change the second monitor resolution fine.
Have you tried running WSA? Also I think that the tablet taskbar might be very suitable for this device
I haven't, but I will.
EDIT: Looks like maybe no virtualization on Steam Deck so no go there.
@@scaryifliteral It probably off check uefi