Forgotten Realms Lore - Red Wizards of Thay

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  • Episode 12 - Wizards they be Thay! I discuss the land of Thay and the organization known as the Red Wizards! A lawful evil state with Szass Tam controlling everything!
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Komentáře • 184

  • @richardandriola7893
    @richardandriola7893 Před 7 lety +317

    It is forbidden to make maps of Eltabbar under penalty of death. The reason, though not commonly known, is that the glyph that imprisons the demon Eltab under the city is composed of the streets of Eltabbar!

    • @Tengu125
      @Tengu125 Před 5 lety +16

      Really? That's awesome

    • @lucase.crusader1196
      @lucase.crusader1196 Před 3 lety +3

      So cool

    • @rpgmatch5726
      @rpgmatch5726 Před rokem +12

      ...and every time a drawn map is destroyed, the prison is weakened. #realmslore

    • @grimsgraveyard3598
      @grimsgraveyard3598 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@rpgmatch5726 I wonder how many maps have been made and recovered and preserved.

    • @rpgmatch5726
      @rpgmatch5726 Před 10 měsíci

      I am not sure!@@grimsgraveyard3598

  • @southernpennsyrailfan8579

    I just saw the movie in theaters. and OH MY GOD!!! It was incredible

    • @LyricSnowe
      @LyricSnowe Před 11 měsíci +1

      It was ok 🤷‍♂️

    • @jamesonholbrook3969
      @jamesonholbrook3969 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Yes!!! It was so much fun and the way they portrayed magic was amazing

  • @DarkReaperRedeemer
    @DarkReaperRedeemer Před 7 lety +74

    Worth of saying that the Szass Tam story is been told in the fantastic novel series "The Haunted Lands" by Richard Lee Byers.

    • @SeventhEthereal
      @SeventhEthereal Před 3 lety +1

      I LOVE that series. I'm about to read it again!!

  • @AAron-gr3jk
    @AAron-gr3jk Před 2 lety +24

    There's a 5e book out now from Ed Greenwood about the Red Wizards of Thay.

  • @wright534
    @wright534 Před 5 lety +13

    Good summation. Thay is a convincing example of a (mostly) stable LE society: surrounded by both enemies and potential conquests, the Zulkirs have more incentive to work with than against each other... most of the time, anyway.

  • @Roboman20000
    @Roboman20000 Před 7 lety +48

    Szass Tam is one of my favorite bad guys. He is constantly trying to take over Aglarond and continually fails. It's almost a sport now for the Witch Queen of Aglarond. There is a great scene in one of the Elmister books (I think?) where a Thay assassin comes to kill her while Elminster is visiting and they just destroy him. It's pretty comical.

  • @markdibuo3756
    @markdibuo3756 Před rokem +21

    The Red Wizards are going to be the villains for the upcoming DND movie.

  • @MrChaosAdam
    @MrChaosAdam Před 5 lety +138

    Red wizards are exclusively human, you forgot to add that.

    • @ProffessorYellow
      @ProffessorYellow Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yo what's the source on this? I may have to redesign some things.

    • @theepicduck6922
      @theepicduck6922 Před 10 měsíci +9

      @@ProffessorYellow it's more of a trend than a hard rule on average. Similar to netheril being made up of mainly humans w/ elves potentially spliced around due to being their teachers. Having a variety of races isn't completely wrong it's just red wizards on average are humans.

    • @The_Gent
      @The_Gent Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@ProffessorYellow "redesign" some things? 😆 why?

    • @ProffessorYellow
      @ProffessorYellow Před 6 měsíci

      I had a bunch of non human red wizards set up@@The_Gent

  • @kingtoruk
    @kingtoruk Před 6 lety +78

    I’m surprised you didn’t mention his unique appearance: that unlike most liches who are most often encountered in a severe state of advanced decay, Szass Tam treats his body the way a mortician treats a cadaver. He indulges in endless lotions and oils, rejuvenative unctions, and layers on heavy cosmetics and perfumes to maintain an appearance that is passable among the living.
    In other words, he’s the opposite of the Lich Mellifleur, Who is described as completely skeletal with no remaining shards of flesh…

    • @guycole2294
      @guycole2294 Před 6 lety +5

      I think him and Arklem Greeth go to the same beautician. :D

    • @scottplumer3668
      @scottplumer3668 Před 5 lety +10

      I can see liches being a good subject for Terry Pratchett-style comedy, like a lich who has bits dropping off, but is always trying to stick them back on.

    • @erikseidler793
      @erikseidler793 Před 3 lety

      I always thought he kept a disguise spell up.

    • @yuppi3495
      @yuppi3495 Před rokem

      Everyone should pay as much attention to skincare as him. Keep your skin fresh, y’all!!

  • @AJPickett
    @AJPickett Před 7 lety +25

    Excellent.

  • @Runehammer1
    @Runehammer1 Před 6 lety +105

    death or assassination..which is..well...DEATH lol

  • @lorddraekan1065
    @lorddraekan1065 Před 7 lety +9

    Really enjoy these videos. Helps me come up with D&D content for games i run. Also, really cool to spice up my homebrew worlds. There's just so much to Faerun that it is almost overwhelming. Thanks for taking it head on and being "A river to your people!"

  • @thashadowspawn
    @thashadowspawn Před 5 lety +12

    At 3 mins and 55 seconds I Waagghed with JOY! I Love how you use Warhammer pictures every now and then! I have been a happy follower of your channel for years now. As I'm going back and enjoying a major D&D Lore Kick right now ( both for hobby fix because I haven't gotten to really play 5th and for film/manga reasons) . I look forward to catching up with your new content in due time but right now I'm enjoying memory lane with the Forgotten Realms series that you did. It's helping me get through my time with the flu and again get some major studying in. Thanks for all of your hard work on every single video you produced Jorphdan!
    Aloha Amen Shalom
    ~Kane On The Brain~

  • @tylerdavis6389
    @tylerdavis6389 Před rokem +3

    Back after the D&D movies trailer.
    Looks like ol' red Lich boy is gonna be the big bad.

  • @awesomehartman1437
    @awesomehartman1437 Před 7 lety +16

    Every Wednesday I wake up to watch these before work.

  • @knudsenmj
    @knudsenmj Před 7 lety +2

    Always look forward to your videos. Excited you are going to cover the spell plague next!

  • @ghxstlxrd191
    @ghxstlxrd191 Před 7 lety +2

    All of the Forgotten Realms stories are SO FREAKING COOOOOL

  • @ButtercheeseYay
    @ButtercheeseYay Před 7 lety +3

    I enjoy this series immensely, keep 'em coming!

  • @Confuzledish
    @Confuzledish Před 7 lety +7

    Can't say enough how much I love these videos.

  • @swedboot1
    @swedboot1 Před 7 lety +141

    wealthy aristocats :D

    • @HundredYearsBoar
      @HundredYearsBoar Před 7 lety

      LOL

    • @jesusirizarry4493
      @jesusirizarry4493 Před 5 lety +11

      I'm glad I wasn't the only one to catch that

    • @AmigoRoberto
      @AmigoRoberto Před 5 lety

      Beat me

    • @pivs
      @pivs Před 3 lety +1

      As opposed to poor aristocats

    • @jacobvanstone6839
      @jacobvanstone6839 Před 3 lety +3

      I know I’m late the the party but theoretically depending on the culture of the country you could have aristocratic that maintained there privileges irrespective of wealth. E.g. Patricians in Rome.

  • @bedlam222
    @bedlam222 Před 7 lety +2

    thanks for these are amazing i ended up bindeging this series after this video. this explains a lot that i wanted to know while playing through baldur's gate.

  • @SadBoi_1066
    @SadBoi_1066 Před 7 lety +2

    Just watched your entire video library! Love your stuff! Keep making lore vids! :) suggestions: Lord's Alliance, Zhentarim, The Harpers. Also, Dragons. Just, like, Dragons. :)

  • @austinsarbacker3779
    @austinsarbacker3779 Před 7 lety +1

    the video quality keeps going up and up!!

  • @juanbonet6318
    @juanbonet6318 Před 2 lety +1

    Spell plague, city of torment, Key of Stars, were books where I learned about the red wizards of thay.

  • @TheRusty
    @TheRusty Před 2 lety +1

    "So Thay is deivided into eleven regions known as tharches, and they're each ruled by a tharcheon"
    Thay themes thoroughly through thick and thin.
    Good for them.

  • @detgrsketestamente3821
    @detgrsketestamente3821 Před 7 lety +2

    Fantastic CZcams video on my favorite fantasy world 😊. I have seen all your videos so far and very impressed.
    I hope that you'll continue the historic line and I would love to see vids on the anthropology of Faerun.
    please do continue ... like forever 🤘

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  Před 7 lety +1

      thanks for watching! I'm glad you're enjoying the series!

  • @ReadySetBacon
    @ReadySetBacon Před 7 lety +1

    Really love your videos. Very informative. Do you think you'll ever touch on the Harpells of Longsaddle?

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  Před 7 lety

      Possibly! I'll add it to the list of topics!

  • @arcian2006
    @arcian2006 Před 7 lety +1

    Awesome watch!

  • @Stephen-gk3ds
    @Stephen-gk3ds Před 6 lety +1

    These videos are great. I fall asleep listening to them. They make good bed time stories. Only problem is I fall asleep before they finish and I never hear the full tale. 🤔

  • @Grungydan
    @Grungydan Před 7 lety +1

    YAY A NEW VID!

  • @rickyevans2697
    @rickyevans2697 Před 2 lety +2

    “Wealthy aristoCATS”. 😆 I think you mean “AristoCRATS” Not the Disney movie. Love your videos partner. Keep ‘‘em coming!!!

  • @mercurialsilver5688
    @mercurialsilver5688 Před 6 lety +1

    These are really good.

  • @marendur
    @marendur Před 5 lety +7

    I like how scary and dangerous Szass Tam is, however, that just makes me even more wondered with another character, called The Simbul. As you may know, The Simbul, is one of the seven sisters and was the main reason preventing Thay legions to overcame west Faerûn.

    • @schwann145
      @schwann145 Před 4 lety +1

      The Queen of Aglorand, one of Thay's greatest rivals along with Rashenen. :)

  • @Belcebu6
    @Belcebu6 Před 7 lety +4

    this channel is awesome !

  • @ryanconrad2786
    @ryanconrad2786 Před 7 lety +1

    6:50 correction...called Thakorsil's Seat.

  • @TheSwartz
    @TheSwartz Před 7 lety +1

    Another good video!

  • @Try_Hard_Dad
    @Try_Hard_Dad Před 2 lety +1

    Best channel, no lie.

  • @stevemallon8738
    @stevemallon8738 Před 7 lety +3

    Thayan Gladiator and Thrall of Eltab are the best prestige classes for a monster character and supporting wizard. I cant wait to play a Minotaur Thayan Gladiator with flaming horn, tower shield and a giant flail. Bonus, every DM I talk to says that flaming horns give a +? to intimidate.

  • @Hurunewyz1
    @Hurunewyz1 Před 5 lety +1

    as far as D&D [Wizard] Lore Summaries go? ... 'Well-Done', Jorphdan. was interesting, thank you

  • @gotogi83
    @gotogi83 Před rokem +3

    His name was Alt Tab? lol, there was one in world of warcraft named Alt Tabin. They should tell the story of Alt F4.

  • @exploringpnw716
    @exploringpnw716 Před 7 lety +1

    Great video as always. I was wondering if you might be able to link all the artwork you put in your videos in the description from now on or if it is too much work? In particular the picture you used for Yaphyll I cant seem to find it online.

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  Před 7 lety +2

      I'd love to put all my sources but I don't think I have enough time. I believe this is the artwork you were asking about.
      s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/27/59/72/27597204695cf54098ac707d805ef1b2.jpg

    • @exploringpnw716
      @exploringpnw716 Před 7 lety

      Thats the one thank you, and I understand no worries man!

  • @gildedmage5695
    @gildedmage5695 Před rokem +1

    Looks like this video is gonna get some extra love after the new dnd movie trailer

  • @jctxcboy36
    @jctxcboy36 Před rokem +1

    Is there any lore in Forgotten Realms explains how the Dragon Masks were made which were used by the Cult of the Dragon to raise Tiamat? Running TOD and would love to provide some back story in these masks and how they were created, etc.

  • @Yuricthebold
    @Yuricthebold Před rokem

    Given there appearance in the Dungeons and Dragons Honor Amongst Thieves; maybe a recap on Szass Tam or the RWoT?

  • @thewidow7864
    @thewidow7864 Před 2 lety

    "the position of bulk here is permanent and changes with death or assassination... which, uh, is really just death so.. that... yeah"
    lol

  • @simonwinkler4879
    @simonwinkler4879 Před 9 měsíci

    "Wealthy Aristocats" thats a great Freudian slip

  • @EZpoGoing
    @EZpoGoing Před 2 lety

    I almost finished the first book of the "haunted lands" Trilogy. Sick af

  • @deryldonaldson1128
    @deryldonaldson1128 Před 4 lety

    do a video on the Eldreth Veluuthra

  • @roguedexx938
    @roguedexx938 Před 4 lety +1

    3 years later I see Red Wizards and instantly hit "like"

  • @alexanderfilip113
    @alexanderfilip113 Před 5 lety +1

    I really like these very informative videos. Thanks for the hard work and research. It's really nice to know more about the homeland of Edwin, or should I say Edwina.

  • @erikseidler793
    @erikseidler793 Před 3 lety +1

    One realm that can't be forgotten is Thay : Realm Of The Red Wizards. I wonder if that NWN server still exists.

  • @Wizcraft
    @Wizcraft Před 7 lety

    Kepp it up !!

  • @methodofinstruction1368
    @methodofinstruction1368 Před 7 lety +1

    Yaaaay!

  • @alexpatrick4846
    @alexpatrick4846 Před 6 lety +3

    Double-do tickles me every time

  • @estigmax7247
    @estigmax7247 Před 5 lety +1

    I have a question Red wizards summon demons or devils?
    What position have in the blood war ? And the underdark after Out of abys

  • @antimatterstudios8395
    @antimatterstudios8395 Před 5 lety

    How did Larloch influence Szass Tam. I heard something happened between the two

  • @graygrandeza6126
    @graygrandeza6126 Před 4 lety +2

    I. love. this. channel.

  • @haydenbsiegel
    @haydenbsiegel Před rokem

    They always try to imprison the Diviner just like Savras! My favorite spell school is a trap.

  • @envoy2500
    @envoy2500 Před 3 lety +1

    So everything about the death moon orb is referenced in Fable Lost Chapters

  • @MinscFromBaldursGate92
    @MinscFromBaldursGate92 Před rokem +1

    Nice Greenskins army you got there.

  • @blahlbinoa
    @blahlbinoa Před 7 lety +40

    Spellplague, or the giant middle finger from WotC to not only its fans but it's creators.

    • @Zeemis
      @Zeemis Před 4 lety +2

      I had a "potential" DM that I was going to play with that wanted to run a Spellplague centered campaign. Yeah we didn't get to starting that campaign.

  • @HvinnyTheViking
    @HvinnyTheViking Před 2 lety +1

    4:53 aristoCATS lol

  • @summussum7540
    @summussum7540 Před 4 lety +1

    Did he say Aristocats instead of aristocrats at 4:55? I think he did...

  • @MisterTutor2010
    @MisterTutor2010 Před 5 lety +3

    Who are Thay? :)

  • @mrmacguff1n
    @mrmacguff1n Před 5 lety

    Is it Dnd artwork or 40k....can be hard to tell

  • @willlybooy5173
    @willlybooy5173 Před 3 lety

    I want more please complete the yugi dex

  • @davidmiddleton7958
    @davidmiddleton7958 Před 7 měsíci

    Just to say, I believe some of the 7 Sisters have had dealings with the Red Wizards.

  • @unacceptableviews1505
    @unacceptableviews1505 Před 5 lety +2

    The only thing I don't like about your videos is that THEY ARE TOO SHORT....lol.Its hard to do justice to your topic this way.The Realms are a vast world so I know why you do short vid's.I have to admit these get my D&D blood fired up.I just turned 50 and have played in the realms once it became clear that WOTC was going to focus on this world.I do however miss The World of Greyhawk and the Realms as I haven't played with dice/character sheets since 1998.The small Canadian town I now live in doesn't have any groups for D&D so I cant even satisfy my first love.I even still have most of my books and dice.Oh well,I guess my comp. games will have to suffice.Please keep doing this work as I think it is important and the depth of even short vid's keeps this place alive.Cheers.

    • @alfonsogiampollo5153
      @alfonsogiampollo5153 Před 5 lety

      Why don't you get into worldbuilding, or even if you're really desperate there is ways to play DND online which I'm sure you might already know of.

  • @danhibiki5977
    @danhibiki5977 Před 7 lety +1

    Clicked because of Curse of the Azure Bonds, Though maybe that Red Wizard wasn't one of THE Red Wizards? Anyone?

  • @iamalpharius7998
    @iamalpharius7998 Před 6 lety

    Do a video on acererak

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  Před 6 lety

      That is a fantastic idea. I never thought about it. Thanks I'll add it to my list of potential topics :D

  • @ghxstlxrd191
    @ghxstlxrd191 Před 7 lety +1

    Can we get a vid covering all of the schools of magic?

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  Před 7 lety

      +AnKa アンカ good idea, I'll look into it!

  • @FelipeWalker2
    @FelipeWalker2 Před 7 lety

    What was the major event in 3rd edition?

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  Před 7 lety

      There wasn't one actually. Only the Time of Troubles for AD&D 2nd edition, the Spellplague for 4th, and the Second Sundering for 5th edition.

  • @AmpelioB
    @AmpelioB Před 6 měsíci

    thats from the movie!

  • @nickh3205
    @nickh3205 Před 7 lety +1

    Thay are cool

  • @elijahvanvlack3704
    @elijahvanvlack3704 Před 6 lety

    Would people living along the Sword Coast be aware of the hierarchy and Red Wizards of Thay?

    • @schwann145
      @schwann145 Před 4 lety +1

      They'd likely be very aware of Red Wizards as they place themselves all over Faerun selling magical items and (where possible) trading slaves.
      Would they be familiar with the hierarchy? Probably not, unless they have some particular reason to be well versed in a culture on "the other side of the world."

  • @TomorrowWeLive
    @TomorrowWeLive Před 2 lety +1

    "slaves are treated decently but may be killed for minor infractions"
    >audible WAT

  • @zeugenberg
    @zeugenberg Před rokem +1

    Sooo... are they importing slaves or exporting slaves?
    Asking for a friend who hasn't prepared for next Session.

  • @inpuris13
    @inpuris13 Před 2 lety

    what school(s) did each red wizard need to give up?

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  Před 2 lety

      I believe it was the opposing side on the magic relationship wheel.
      static.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/b/b0/Second_Edition_Schools_of_Magic_Relationships.jpg

  • @victormontano966
    @victormontano966 Před 4 lety

    Vibe check

  • @2DollarGargoyle
    @2DollarGargoyle Před 3 lety

    So did Szass create the orb or did Larloch trade it to him.

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  Před 3 lety +2

      It was created by Larloch to control his court.

  • @jonathandurbin5534
    @jonathandurbin5534 Před 4 lety

    At 4:56-ish he says aristocats lol

  • @jordanrejon5091
    @jordanrejon5091 Před 9 měsíci

    Hell yeah thank you for the lore it's really gonna help my character

  • @Stellarheim
    @Stellarheim Před 3 lety

    Jordan here, the PH assailant.

  • @misomiso8228
    @misomiso8228 Před 6 lety

    Who is the girl at 4.44 - when you are talking about longhaired slaves?

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  Před 6 lety

      That's Kate Mara from a movie called Ironclad.
      www.imdb.com/title/tt1233301/

  • @markafterdark8047
    @markafterdark8047 Před 5 lety +1

    Is your name really Jorphdan? Like where did that come from

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  Před 5 lety +2

      It's kind of a long story and was an inside joke back in 2010! I was commenting on how kids now seemed to have creative parents where their kids name would be Tiffany, but they would spell it Tiphanni. So as a joke I decided to become Jordan with a silent PH in the middle :)

  • @liljohnnotbigjohn
    @liljohnnotbigjohn Před 6 lety +1

    so... if you can create an army of undead that is smart enough to handle tactics, organization, etc, why would you worry about slaves? You have to *feed* slaves. An army of zombie slaves might have some downsides (what's that smell?), but they never get tired, stop, etc.

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  Před 6 lety

      I believe Szass Tam would agree with you!

    • @schwann145
      @schwann145 Před 4 lety

      On the other hand, undead don't follow you just cuz they think you're cool - you have to expend a *lot* of magical energy on a constant basis to maintain control.

    • @iang0th
      @iang0th Před 2 lety

      @@schwann145 Uh, slaves don't follow you just cuz they think you're cool, either.

  • @NILBKS
    @NILBKS Před 6 lety

    No aguardo de alguem legendar em portugues para os Br's rs *sim eu sei que é mais fácil aprender ingles ok

  • @TheZentegi
    @TheZentegi Před 4 lety

    Was there an event that changed things from 2nd edition to 3rd edition

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  Před 4 lety

      The Time of Troubles!

    • @TheZentegi
      @TheZentegi Před 4 lety

      @@Jorphdan ooh I thought that was 1.0 to 2.0

  • @itzybitzyspyder
    @itzybitzyspyder Před 3 lety +1

    4:53 aristocats?!

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  Před 3 lety +1

      lol yeah,
      short story my significant other was directing the Disney aristocats, and well I guess it was on my mind

  • @that1indianguy664
    @that1indianguy664 Před 6 lety

    What if the ph wasn’t silent????

  • @j-fallard5351
    @j-fallard5351 Před 7 lety

    Thay is so flavorful

  • @chaoticneutral7573
    @chaoticneutral7573 Před 2 lety

    Binge watching Forgotten Realms lore so better understand Baldur's Gate 3 story and setting before game comes out.

  • @dankmessiah
    @dankmessiah Před 6 lety

    heh heh, doobly doo. Who doesn't watch Colville? :P

  • @sirdoge361
    @sirdoge361 Před 7 lety

    Do the Genasi come from these lands?

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  Před 7 lety +2

      Genasi are planetouched humanoids, typically crossbreeding between humans and genies. The Genies were most prevalent in Zakhara; Thay on the other hand is in Faerun. Although possibly a few Genasi made their way north to Faerun.

    • @sirdoge361
      @sirdoge361 Před 7 lety

      Thanks =D

  • @bahamutkaiser
    @bahamutkaiser Před rokem

    Killed the gods? Or the avatars?

  • @ericyoung4448
    @ericyoung4448 Před 7 lety

    why does everyone hate on the Spellplague? I've only recently started playing (started with 5e) so maybe there's a lot of stuff I don't know about but I thought the Spellplague was a pretty cool concept.

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  Před 7 lety +2

      +Eric Young I believe it is that WoTC used the spellplague to justify the complete overhaul of DnD for 4th edition. But I'm with you, I think it (and 4th edition) are over hated.

    • @schwann145
      @schwann145 Před 4 lety +1

      It was a disrespectful overhaul of the entire setting that came with massive retcons, all of which happened for no better reason than, "D&D switched editions."
      The players didn't want it. The authors didn't want it. It was a 100% corporate, "let's freshen things up" decision.

  • @Korealignments
    @Korealignments Před 3 lety

    Dooblee-doo... Someone was watching Colville.

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  Před 3 lety

      Yes, and no. Created by Wheezy Waiter.
      knowyourmeme.com/memes/doobly-doo

  • @DrAndrewJBlack
    @DrAndrewJBlack Před 3 lety

    👍🏻

  • @luhvhue4591
    @luhvhue4591 Před 9 měsíci

    /them

  • @IncanPete
    @IncanPete Před 3 lety

    That guy's a real "Szass Hole." Does anyone ever make that joke?