Are YOU Buying TOO MUCH WARHAMMER?!
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This week we're having a sit down and a chat. Are you getting into the hobby too fast? Are you buying too much? Been into Warhammer for a month, already have 8 armies and haven't built any yet?
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Love the video dave! Greggs will never be the same again. Im working my way through my necron army pretty consistently, I do have a mini pipe of shame infront of me, but nothing too intimidating! Appreciate the advice!
Pile of previously well intentioned purchases is a term I hope to get over in the future. No shame in surrounding yourself with stuff you love. A pile of shame should be a term reserved for laundry and dirty plates! Big love, enjoy your hobbying!
@@MSPaints oh… in that case I have a HUGE PILE of laundry shame hahaha!
@@beamer2267 damn. That didn’t work to reassure you like I hoped it would!
@@MSPaints the telegram scammers are spamming your channel mate. Might want to warn your viewers in a future vid as some people do get suckered in by these fake giveaways.
@@GerryG91100 they tell you, you've won a prize but insist on payment for the shipping costs up front and some fall for it.
Definitely had an extended patch where the hobby became a habit that was more about the buying than any of the rest of it. Finding my way back to enjoyment of building, painting and playing lately though.
Glad you found your way back to the zen zone!
Yeah, same here. For a while, my hobby was tracking down and buying New On Sprue models off of eBay. The endorphin spike of winning a Sunday evening auction became quite an addiction.
I've still got most of those sprues, packed up in moving boxes. Turns out no one else wanted to buy them off me, so now I'm stuck with them.
Turns out a bargain still costs money.
Feel ya bro I ended up just buying one blister (single model) pack a fortnight and even then I'm behind haha
One strategy I've decided on, to avoid or reduce the pile of shame, is to move toward figure-agnostic games.
That allows you to use a smaller collection of figures, in multiple games.
It also allows you to jump straight into a new game, without the delay that often kills the momentum.
This is a great philosophical topic for the hobbyist.
Sometime within the last few years, I decided to start calling my collection of unpainted models my "Pile of Opportunities". This change has been vital for my mental health and inspiration for painting more models that I already own, more often than not.
This mental process allows me to enjoy the experience and the journey of the hobby instead of seeing it as a chore that needs to be completed. It's a reward and escape for getting my work and chores done each day.
I've been involved in this hobby since 1990 and turned 53 earlier this year. I have learned where to draw the line at which games I will play and which factions I'll play in them. This limits the models I'll buy quite a bit. Occasionally, I have purchased a model (or a set) just because I want to paint it, especially now that I have an airbrush. I've already had to get creative about where to store the unpainted and painted models for display, safekeeping, or transporting.
If I don't have every model I've purchased over the years painted by the time I leave this earth, I've left instructions in my will for my family members to sell the unpainted models through a local FLGS and donate the proceeds to a favorite charity (minus a cut and first dibs for the store owner for sorting the inventory out). I've also left instructions to donate the painted models, paint sets, brushes, terrain, materials, & whatever models don't sell to a local private high school gaming club.
Once that process was in place, I became more free to buy whatever set or model I want, within reason, while I'm still breathing, sharing, teaching, creating, painting, and kicking dirt in this life.
Very relatable, helpful, sage advice. Sell things you cannot or will not use. If you’re going to invest in something make sure your heart is really in it, I wanted all the 2nd edition metal genestealer cult sculpts 20yrs ago, I want them now, and I have them, although they haven’t yet been painted, one day the ancient prophecy of my boyhood will be fulfilled.
I’ve found selling discarded projects even at a loss helped clear up my hobby
That’s a good way of doing it! Something I’ll touch on in a later video I think. Thanks for the reminder!
My pile of shame is currently the thing bringing me joy. I fell out of the hobby when I was about 14-15 and where ever I’ve gone in life, I’ve had to carrying around this collection of models I’ve had since I was a child. At points I never had any intention of picking it back up but was too scared of selling my models. They retained their sentimental value the entire time. The pandemic like it did for many, gifted me free time I usually wouldn’t have and over the last few years, especially with the rise of war gaming content on CZcams, it’s been a growing interest in me so when that free time became available, I picked up the hobby again and I’m loving it. I’m now 31, the stuff I’m painting isn’t a complete mess (which is partly why I gave up as a kid), and I’m slowly getting through all this sixth edition WH and even bits and bobs that my dad and uncle handed down from the early 90’s. I’m trying to hold myself to the challenge of getting through as much of what I already have before I buy anything new. The only new stuff I’ve bought is a pack of GW skulls! I am very tempted however to start a nurgle army, so maybe this is where buying too much begins for me haha
Buy a model on aestetics
Rules change, a great sculpt will look good on your shelf forever
Some great advice mate, I recently made the discovery myself that I was just buying stuff because I thought that will be really cool to build one day. Now I have a cupboard full and still the same small amount of time I get every week to hobby, If I don't buy any more I should be done by 2050 😂.
I'm definitely feeling the Pile of Shame at the moment. I'm a fast painter but I need to be in the mood and I haven't always been feeling it at the moment.
#3 FOMO is real! I'm only into Middle Earth Strategy Battle and with all their limited time "Made To Order" releases you either cough up the dough or wait several years for it to come around again.
So much FOMO... What can men do against such reckless business practices?
@@SimonMoston I can't really cast too much shade on GW for this as MESBG is pretty niche and it's probably not good business sense to fill a warehouse with 19 different versions of Gandalf. Still, sucks for those that can't afford to drop 💷on the hobby at short notice.
@@tuvaaq Well then, I'll cast shade for the both of us. I've been wanting to run a Grand Army of the South legion since the Gondor supplement dropped, and I really wanted some camels. No-one should have to wait 3 years for camels to return to rotation. And yes, I'm broke after last weeks range rotation haha.
@@SimonMoston when you put it like that I guess it is sh!tty. I don't play, just been collecting Quest of the Ringbearer models and the narrative sculpts that have no impact on the game but yeah I'd be pissed if had to wait on rotation to put together a force for the tabletop or pay scalper prices on eBay.
Tony Destaffano add break in perpetual forward motion advert is always a treat
We need more messages like this. F- the ‘new thing’. Slow and steady is the way to go. I’m slowly chipping away at the Dominion box set for $99.
You need to see the guy Angry Badger Minis first video...just...whoa. He has been collecting for years, just because, not meta chasing.
We all need a mate who will bring you back a sausage roll
Asked for un sausage roll, received dos sausage rolls. That’s a true friend!
I bought space rangers from Virgin Megatore in Sheffield back when they had random piles of miniatures inc. Battletech and very old Aliens
Barely remember that! Must be where my dad got them from back in the day.
@@MSPaints They were from a time when GW and Beatties were all I knew about the hobby. Probably mid 90s.
In the Sheffield store, it was downstairs (which had a kinda industrial aesthetic), hidden round the corner from the metal. Which pretty much explains my teen years.
To date, this is the best video on this subject matter. You didn't 'shame' the practice of owning a pile of opportunity, like the others did. Thank you!
I went a little (a lot) overboard when I got into 40K. I collected four full armies (Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Orks, and Eldar) before I realized I would never be able to paint them all, and my plan to have a fieldable army from every faction was bonkers.
This last year when I got the itch to buy a kit I instead got out something in my backlog. By October or so I had cleared out all the most useful things in my backlog to the point where it was mostly 1 off, single figure models and some historical kits. It helps when you aren't interested in playing multiple armies. It also helps to understand the difference between what's actually going to have a presence on table top, and what is just engaging in retail therapy. The former is tough for newer dudes to know.
I hobbied years ago in my teens and 20's and at the time I couldn't financially afford to get too deep into the hobby, so it was rarely an issue. I recently jumped back into the hobby after an extended hiatus and definitely went a bit too all in, overestimating my free time and energy, and now have a closet filled with boxes of unpainted minis for 3-4 armies, and maybe 1k points actually fully painted.
My biggest hobby regret was allowing myself to get roped into playing a CCG. That was a lot of cash that could have been a pile of old models to go with my other pile of even older models because I still have almost everything I bought as a teenager and young adult.
Shadowvaults just turned up in the mail halfway through this video. I haven't finished painting Octarius. Impeccable timing!
About 3 years ago now I made the decision to minimise any future purchases and start working through my (pretty huge) pile of shame instead. I made myself a rule that if I do buy something new, I have to paint it right away, so it doesn't go on the pile of shame.
I've actually made pretty decent progress through my pile and it feels good to see the pile of grey models going down and the display case filling up.
Personally, my pile is a 'pile of opportunity', it makes me happy knowing I'll paint them at some point (even at times I'm buying things faster than I paint them).
Mind you, my thing is old-herohammer models or styles of models, not the new thing...
I'm mainly just a spectator in "the hobby" so I don't really buy models and stuff, but I can relate because I buy WAY more art supplies than I have time to use them.
7:00 This false scarcity that started with Indomitus and the Sisters box is what pushed me out of the hobby for over a year. If I had to get up hours early before work to join in the F5 war to *maybe* get their product then they weren't getting my business. The benefit to coming back recently is I've sorted all of my pile of shame and am slowly painting things since the original hype I had has faded
Strange I thought I was the winner. Looks like a scam to me
I've been selling tons of my POS on Ebay lately and even dipped into some of my painted stuff. My hobby space had become a beacon of misery to me as opposed to a source of joy and inspiration. Now that I'm getting closer to manageable I'm trying to buy on pace with my paint production (and failing gloriously cue the cycle).
I got into warhammer when I was about 14 years old or so. I read a couple omnibus when I was in high-school and saw some good ol' Duncan painting videos but never had the money to get into it. Went straight into the military out of high-school and never had the space to paint or keep models.
Fast forward to the present day minus a couple years and you can imagine my "pent-up hobby rage". Pretty sure I spent close to $1,000 within the first month (mostly on paint and tools/supplies). I now have a small'ish pile of shame and it used to bug me a lot because I watched a lot of videos before making purchases and swore to "never be that guy". After revisiting the thought it doesn't bother me anymore that I have a bunch of random models and no proper army to show for it. I bought the models I did because I thought they were rad and I really enjoy the assembly and painting process. It is like therapy in a way.
Also, my small pile of shame helps reign me in on purchases because I know I have 5 or so boxes of models that still need to be painted so I don't feel a "need" on anything other than something I've already been looking forward to.
A great danger of overbuying for me is when I find something really cool, like a film, a show or a book and think, that would be a cool miniature project. I just made a list of all projects I want to do. Oh boy. I do have to up my output if I want to get it done before I'm 80 😂 moving all boxes of plastic crack to the basement helped with the mental load of it. I have now only the stuff I currently working on in my hobby space. Also sometimes I think of some kits and boxes just as kitbashing potential and I'm fine with never actually building it. But overbuying is defenitley an issue in our hobby.😅
You are an adequate hobbyist.
Many occasions where I seen your work it has been sufficient.
@@MSPaints to be fair, you are a better lover than you are a painter.
I've bought, and then later sold at a slight loss, two starter armies without any real attempt at painting/assembling them
Great video. Everything you've said has passed my thoughts at some point in the hobby. But I won't lie to myself. It's an addiction. And all the things we couldn't buy as kids because of money we can now as adults. Sometimes. You know. Because bills and kids are also expensive 😅
Quick little tip for Games Workshop products, if its still in a saleable (unopened) condition then just take back and part exchange the box for something you want!!! Stuff they don't sell anymore they may not do but current models they will! I found loads of unopened models and paints I never used and swapped them for my Beast of Chaos army!!! A great way of getting rid of models you don't want or never going to use and get something you do!!!
When I started again (previously I was 2nd Edition) it was to capture that old nostalgia. Planned on a couple Terminators and a Land Raider.
Couple years on I have 8 unpainted display armies with the entirety of a built in bookcase filled with models. I am near the end of the buying part (once the World Eaters stuff comes out) but if I were to paint 1 model every day, I’d be over 2 years before I am finished.
Thankfully I’m at the point now as well where there is genuinely nothing else in the range that I want/need, and if I do get anything new it will be to replace anything that gets made cooler looking in future editions.
Oooh, your sound, the quality has improved, either a new mic set up or the little tunnel you’ve so wonderfully framed yourself in! 😍
I'm an oldie that came back to the hobby after a 17 year gap, but this time I had cash, so went deep and now I'm surrounded by this stuff! The past year was going well until I fell for the HH box, a game I don't play! It was shiny, had marines, nice books, I was in......but I have held back.....I've got to sell some stuff....
I only recently started in the warhammer hobby, but I have noticed that it really helps if your buying what you think is personally cool. For example I was gifted a boxes of adeptus mechanicus and I just couldnt bring myself to finish painting them, not because i didn't like the models, but because it felt like a choir to paint them
Same with me and Necrons. I bought a 40k Recruit box when I started and painted up the Marines lickiy split. They were a lot of fun. Then I moved onto the Necrons and... enjoyed it a lot less. I had to force myself to get through them and wound up going for a rusty, grimy paint scheme because it meant I could get them done quicker. So I rather quickly discovered the Necrons were not for me.
I implemented a paint a unit buy a unit policy a while back. My pile of shame is still large BUT… it hasn’t grown. So that’s a success.
A double edged sword is bulk buying an army second hand. On the plus side you can get crazy discounts, but on the negative side you are committing to painting a whole force that is realistically going to be lots of similar stuff.
I been binging your content and commenting on vids from the past 3-6 months today. Dude, love your content. Your outlook is so refreshing. I think i've figured out my balance.For me, to stay building and painting across the board consistently. I have to be working on something that peaks my interest at the time
Right now, my wife is about to have brain surgery in the next two weeks. She's been dealing with metastatic brain cancer for 8yrs.
Painting mini's and building PLAMO/modelling in general has brought my entire family together. I also find the building theraputic.
For real, man. It's advice i need to heed, myself tbh. If i could make as fast as i bought i'd be happy... exhausted... but happy.
I just plummeted into the ocean of airbrushing kit, I guess at least it's a tool I can use again and again. I try to divert what I would spend on the constant slew of new plastic into hobby materials, as at least then I know it could be used at any moment in a creative sense. Love your video's btw!
Short, simple and quick answer to the topic: YES.
What I really love is having an enormous pile of treasure which I can just sit on. I just like looking at my pile of treasure.
Ya I got in hard. At the time I was newly free of my parents, and was making WAY more $ than I needed. A friend returned from the military with a small space marines army all painted and pretty. Next day I went to a GW store and lost my mind, so many choices and all so cool. Ended up falling in love with both the Eldar and their evil siblings. I ended up with so much stuff, a GW staff member had to help bring it to the car. I bet I painted less than a quarter of it before I moved across the country. I ended up giving it all to the local charity kids hang out, and haven't touched a mini since (almost 20 years now).
Go easy on those classic Space Ranger models! I got a box of those when I was a wee lad to try to learn to paint. And now my 7yo daughter practices painting on the ones I still have laying around. 😂
great video, my first army was fantasy high elf, 500-600 points .... then i got a cheap high elf army from ebay for 100 € and its was a 5000 point army i was drowning in miniature´s after that i was smart enough getting slower. greetings from austria
I've got a decent pile of potential sat there! I have a lot I want to paint, but fortunately none is GW.
I do like to break things up with painting busts as they are a whole different scale and challenge.
Nice! Been thinking of tackling a bust but never have the time to sit and learn them things!
Agree on miniatures, I’m also collecting limited edition black library novels and those you kinda have to buy on release since they sell out in < 5min.
Good commentary mate. If I could add one more it would this this - you do not need every single item to start, enjoy or complete a hobby project. You can have just as much fun with 5 paints and two models as you can with paints and models. Plus if you don't wait you'll get more done and improve faster anyway.
I look forward to your forthcoming video on railway scenics. Keep up the good work.
I got back in to the hobby at the start of lockdown. One of my mums lockdown tasks was sorting out mine and my siblings shit from around their house. She dropped off a couple of toolboxes filled with my old hobby stuff. In it was an unfinished box of 00s era multipart space wolves and necron warriors. lo and behold Indomitus drops with space marines and necrons in the box, cue me buying indomitus and still not finishing it fully to this day because cooler stuff launched in the meantime.
To my credit my painting output exceeds my purchasing but 2020 Nige was too busy thinking about how much money he was saving by working from home and bought a silly amount of stuff to counteract it. I will eradicate my pile of shame in time and switch to a “no grey plastic” policy before purchasing more stuff. To new hobbyists I’d definitely recommend only buying new projects after existing ones are finished, having a pile of shame saps the fun out of hobbying.
I gave up on 'chasing the Dragon' with GW over a year ago. However, I now chase BT minis, Dead Man's Hand and various boxes from Wargames Atlantic. It's a process, progress, but still chasing.
Always happy to see a new video pop up in my queue. Great advice. I particularly like the tip on doing something else when you get bored of a particular thing. I have two armies that I almost always enjoy building, anything orky and my favorite angry AoS trees. So, if I'm working on my 40k sisters army, I like to buy just a single box or units and build it. But, since I'm not great with anything artistic, they are a massive challenge for me to make them "battle ready" enough that I'm not embarrassed to have them on the tabletop. To keep from getting resentful of that army, I'll switch up with a few Sylvaneth models, or something ork/orruk (don't care, I play both games). Trees and orks are much easier for an amateur to feel comfortable with, and both lend themselves wonderfully to kit bashing and storing extra bits for other projects.
Right..off to attend the "My pile of shame AA meeting" lol
Interesting topic! I’ve found myself in an interesting place with buying things. I got back into the hobby when my partner bought me silver tower as I loved old warhammer quest. Being out of the hobby so long I though, hmm don’t want to mess these models up so I should practice first - well here we are 5 years later and I still haven’t painted that box but I do have other boxes for days.
I did start painting some of my purchase up but I’m not going to lie some of it fills me with dread - I love sw legion and went bananas when they where on offer and have 4 core boxes, the running joke being the mould lines in that og core box being horrendous - 3-4 days of mould line removal. Not looking forward to putting those together 😅
I should have gone slower but hey, everyone has a bad day and thinks hmmm that will definitely give me something to do and cheer me up!
Yes Dave and I know to my costing figures, way too much bought and paid for over the years. So next year I will be driving South to Mirfield and see the man and hopefully turn my man-cave around with books instead of mini's. Cheers for the wibble.
Awesome vid. Tony's ad spots are the best, the only SS ads I watch.
The thing that helped reel in my hobby acquisition rate was 3rd party rules. When the folks selling you the rules are not the same folks selling you the minis, a lot of the false urgency goes away.
Wanted to start Warhammer Fantasy with High Elves back in the day. Got a huge box of them to get started. Realized this was going to be a very long slog. Set them aside, never got to them. They're somewhere. But sure glad I got all these LotR minis on clearance when my local store decided they wanted to finally clear them out. Ho ho! Loving this channel. Cheers.
I sold 10,000 points of 40k (mostly marines) during the pandemic. I realised that it was not possible for me to live long enough to paint them being late 40's (plus, I'm an events photographer in an apocalypse, so... money... capitalism... hard times). Anyway, it was the best thing I ever did, now I'm a painting beast, much more productive and able to get into other stuff, like Bolt Action. The grey plastic was a psychological ball and chain. Cheers for the content as always dude
Oh the hulk hogan reference made me chuckle like i was 7 years old again.
Selling minis is a great way to cut down your back log. Be honest what that you actually will get to and more importantly what you want to get to and sell the rest.
I love this video so much! What a treat to wake up to and enjoy first thing on a Saturday. I love your unadulterated, don’t-give-a-sh*t delivery of truthiness. Thanks for existing and making these, friend. Love from Minnesota, US.
I got back into Gundam earlier this year and definitely overbought a bit. I mean, my backlog is only 30 kits so that isn't too bad. The biggest issue for me though was that I started getting extra stuff to customise my kits and then I stopped wanting to build them unless I already had the extra parts. This led to me not building things because I was worried I wouldn't do it justice. Sort of like buying that big Warhammer kit but then never painting it because you are afraid you'll screw up the paint job. Come to think of it, I also got the big 2 player Conquest box at the start of the pandemic along with extras and I haven't even taken the bubble wrap off...
After watching this, I think I might go and build a Gundam right now, so cheers for the motivation.
I bought some 28mm miniatures got a tiny bit in over my head building so I switched to painting the few metal models I had and fell in love with metal. I switched to 15mm I don't have to build anymore I just paint base and play.
Hey man, you put some respect on SPACE RANGERS! 🤘🤨 I had that box and it was 100% serviceable still have a couple odd weapons/ backpacks that keep turning up in my bits...I'd kill for like 5 of them to proper paint nowadays
...thanks for the memory!
Some games don't need their models painted. I bought Blackstone Fortress partly because it was something to play inbetween other games that I would prep for.
An old gamer's recommendation to newer players: start a gaming club (not necessarily a formal one like y'all have in the UK and Europe, just a group with a regularly scheduled gameday) that plays a previous edition of the game. Doesn't matter if you're playing 40K 2e or 9e, as long as it is a discontinued edition. You don't have to worry about the meta changing every three months if your last gamebook was published during the Bush administration.
Okay so here is my “pile of shame” story:
So when I first got into the hobby I was thrilled to just play the game and start being creative in a format that I’m actually pretty decent at. So the first thing I did was buy an entire slaves to darkness starter set and I built them all and primed them all but when I actually looked at it I never painted them. (I still have them actually and that was about 2 years ago.) Then I got a Tau start collecting box and guess what never actually finished it. THEN I got an imperial knight that I thankfully still have but it isn’t completely built yet. THEN I got a start collecting box of Necrons that guess what I never finished. I ended up selling pretty much all of the Warhammer I owned bar the slaves to darkness and the knight but I realized that I definitely needed to just stop buying any Warhammer until I 100% knew I was not gonna sell it and waste my money. So good tip: please just don’t waste away all your money.
The inner battle among us all once you cross that line from dipping your toes in to going for a full on swim. Great video as always and some brutal honesty as needed. I think this is a great topic and will always be relevant as long as the hobby exists. A very important message for new comers for sure! :)
I have a decent routine when it comes to my pile of shame. Before I figured it out I had about 15 boxes of models. So my routine involves painting a unit or single model I already have built. Then building a box of models once that's done. Then back to painting another unit or single model. Then I buy new boxes but not exceeding more than 3 items to maintain a small pile of shame. Currently I have 7 box in my pile and Im content with that
Thanks, great takes on the topic!
I still struggle with pacing my purchases XD I've been sitting on built models for years and only recently got back into the hobby because I got a new friend into the game. They jumped head-first into it - two combat patrols, two codexes, and a unit of Elites for both of them - but that inspired me to re-direct my own hobby energies towards terrain so we can have a space to game instead. The old Fantasy Dwarfs and Black Reach Orks I might never pick up again will probably be going to Frontline Gaming, if they still do their used-model trade-ins. That way I'll free up my space for things I have the drive to build, and the old minis will get to be enjoyed again by someone new :)
So some of the tips I give new players and finder of our medieval lords serf tax plan is as follows
1. build collections not lists, you said this in the video but it is worth repeating. Your army is going to suck at some point plan and simple. *8th ed Imp knights were deliciously underwhelming* Dont worry about it, collect, build, paint it up. It is your army for a reason.
2. Focus on what makes ya happy, for me I find joy in every aspect of the hobby because I like the creative outlet it gives me. Enjoy or try out the various sections to see what you vibe with. Not much into the gaming, try the novels. Not into buildng? try the painting aspect, etc
3. Your interest are going to change. There is nothing wrong with getting together an army and not playing it. Here the fun thing it will still be there when you want to return to it. For me it is entirely based around what book I am reading. I just started grey knights because of Garro the first grandmaster, hand of the sigilite.
4. Do not worry about the cost of the hobby, yea it absolutely sucks nowadays I remember when codexes was 25 bucks. Regardless space it out, you do not need to rush it, I promise you it will be there. Plus there is nothing stopping you from buying secondhand or buying 3d printed/recasted models. Yea some people will complain but who cares this is your hobby.
5. You do not need the best tools out there, my exacto knife I used for cleaning is a white rectangle box cutter I got a dozen of for free from a job years ago. This works for me but mate you dont need to drop the money to get the best tools. Start with what you are comfortable with and upgrade later once you know what you are doing.
6. HAVE FUN! this is the biggest and last tip I give, remember to have fun. This hobby does have its low moments and you will get upset but remember that at its core this is what you are doing in your free time. Have fun with it.
My pile of potential has shrank pretty substantially but the way I look at it, just keep at it and it will get done eventually. I hated rebasing my ogors and it took twice as long as I thought it would take but now a coat of primer and some paints, the mawtribes are ready for the board. Slay the grey everyone!
Great vid!! Looks like you’re in a mini version of Lendal Cellars!! That would be a great painting location…😂 🍺
Lucked out with this place! Lots of character!
hmmm games nights at the cellars would be awesome
I can't tell which part I liked more, the inferior hobbyist or the teddy bear crossed with a garden gnome 🤣. Love the video and I think I have the perfect follow up to this video 😁
I’m subscribed to you both, but I don’t keep up with every video- it was a nice surprise to find that you two are mates! Both of you have great channels, and you’re both guys that I admire 👍🏻
@@tunguskalumberjack9987 it's one big old happy community 😁
you its a good one when your son comes in and scowls at you ''what you laughing at''
I'm blessed I only have a small grey tide and 2 painted armies. I love building though so if I build a Cadian army box I can just hit it with primer and resell it for practically the same cost, buy something else, chill and build while watching YT, radio, repeat. And I can paint maybe a tank or maybe some AoS addition at my leisure. I literally have not upgraded my SoBs from anything of the second wave, no Vahl, or Saints, or APUS, or CAstanks, nothing. I have not even got Morathi for my DoKs. I have no HQs for any of my Astartes Chapters, or Cadians, or Necrons, or Nighthaunts. GW isn't making anything I want so that saves me a ton of money. I'm 90% of the mind of build it and get rid of it.
Great video. Especially the Greggs run.
I have nursed the same collection of models for 20 years, always with the intention of getting back into the hobby and painting them (one day). It is not a large pile of shame but definately a lingering one. I've started painting them now, and bought a few new models, getting into terrain making also. I realise now how easy it is for the grey pile to grow larger rather than smaller.
I bought a ton of Privateer Press stuff on clearance and I wouldn't mind not painting it all because the average cost was about a dollar per model.
Been very frugal with my adult reintroduction to the hobby. Started with gaslands, Etsy shop selling cars funded branching out to other games. Kept purchases to affordable starter sets or eBay.
Really interesting subject and one I hadn't really thought about. I know for me I should not have gotten back into Warhammer when I did as I went all out on a Bretonian army, 6 weeks later they nerfed the line at the beginning of AoS. However it did lead back to the hobby and good friends so not a total issue.
Lmfao,this video spoke directly to me and my heaps of armys that are various stages of painting. Spot on! And as always great stuff! Thank you.
Cracking video mate. Really well produced, articulated and some comedy gold. Genius. 💪
Thass me trinity to aim for! Thank you bud!
Dave, bloody good point. I have a great pile of shame, but have painters block plus the usual curse of the modeller - work! It's great to know that I'm not the only one! Best Wishes Johnny
if, i hadn't recently subbed anyway. Hulk master Hogan would have earned a subb off of giggles alone!
As a Gundam guy, this happens to us too. Bandai? More like Bandit. Anyway, good advice!
Yes. Yes. And yes again. My worst habit is FOMO for savings. Got all the Nighthaunt from Mortal Realms and 2 x craft worlds start collecting boxes just in case I want to start those armies in future and buying it now will "save me money" in the long run. I do get my Smaug on sitting and looking at the pile.
The way I've limited myself it by getting smaller games like underworlds stuff. I bought the Bladeborn and Fire Team boxes for $50 at the book store and then bought each of the expansion teams supported in the box to make a super-box, Bladeborn being essentially a smaller scale Warcry on an Underworlds board and Fire Team being a smaller scale Kill Team box on an Underworlds-style board.
I helps but it's no cure for the collection bug. Oh, and I collect 3D print files... but they don't take up any space! 😅
Completely am feeling the pile of shame, bought a Minas Tirith battlehost and an orc combat patrol a few weeks ago. Then I found a Pelennor Fields box set. I have so much stuff to paint. Ahhhhhh!
Love it, giving allot of nighthunt that still box away, though don't play as much I have idea ticking in my head what I'm going do with them. And Thanks Dave, it 8.40pm and I fancy a greggs.
Thanks for the video m8.
I sit on so many different minis.
Stormcasts, ogres, Warcry the game, Space Marines, Chaos Space Marines. 5% actually painted, 35% partially painted and 60% unpainted.
I have an airbrush station I only used thrice because it clogged so much even though I followed all instructions.
And here comes the banger:
*I don’t even play the game!*
because it’s so difficult to find players who aren’t either just too addicted to the hobby and far gone, or too bored by it.
I almost bought a new set today just because of the WISH it would be cool. But I stayed strong. Your video gave me positive confirmation that this was a good idea.
I won’t buy a new thing Until I have finished 2 other projects.
When I first got into the hobby the fact I didn't have heaps of money meant I kept up painting with what I bought with the pocket money or got for a birthday. When I came back to the hobby a couple of years back I could essentially afford whatever I want and unfortunately I've got a budding pile of shame. It's not the worst but still a shelf's worth of kits and maybe 6 months solid painting! 😬
Great video. I upvoted it pretty quickly, then forgot about it. Then each time you said something awesome, I went back to upvote it again - this happened like 3 times. I think I have short-term memory failure.
You’ll be most welcome here if you do!
Great to see Tony back in motion! You continue to impress with your moral fibre; refusing to stoop to mostly baseless speculation over GW sales tactics. I'm sure someone could make it interesting but the number of people already mired in the conversation without the professional expertise, specific information or presenting ability to make it interesting is massive. Glad to see you won't be joining the writhing mass of talking heads spewing negativity.
Late to the conversation!
Dave, I only learned of your channel a few days ago, thanks to the fine fellas at The Painting Phase, and I have been catching up with your content quickly - great stuff, very entertaining, and from a unique perspective within the community. So, thanks for it!
I like the phrase "pile of opportunity" others have mentioned more than the one of shame - but until I sold off a large quantity of things to streamline said pile it was definitely of the latter category. I was forced to review my gaming possessions and truly consider what I wanted to keep because of a change in circumstances - I won't go into details but will state that it is not mortal nor is it a situation like yours, but that it helped sharpen my focus on various subjects, the one pertinent to this conversation being "do I truly have time for all of this or hadn't I better get cracking on more important things?"
So a BUNCH got sold, some of that money got turned into a middling-size purchase for one new-to-me game system - I'm happy with my self-control in limiting the contents of what was purchased - and now I have this new energy to focus on what remains. Since the middle of last year I have been going through the kits and getting them built and painted: I have jumped from project to project as the mood hits me - which keeps my interest fresh and energy up - but the goal of completing what remains is the most tangible than at any other point during my hobby tenure.
So yeah, there was too much WarHams and many other systems. I wish I had better self-control and self-awareness at the time to understand that I was behaving addictively and was slavish to advertising. But now I have that control and a stock of stuff that will keep me occupied with paid-for hobby material for the time remaining for my ability to do something with it - I ain't getting younger, there are only so many hours in the week for hobby, and I have enough to stay busy for a long time. AND there are a number of unrelated systems to play were I can recycle what I have for use in them. So thats me.
Thanks for the great content, Dave.
I feel I've finally nailed the measured approach this time around with Warhammer, just buying what I plan to build and paint next, no rush, no fuss, no pile of shame. I get to be smug about that, because I'm ruined after I went in hard buying scale model kits. And diorama/terrain scenics. And model railways. And all the acrylic paints. And flight sim addons. And music software/plugins. And cookware. Fuck. I'm such a mark...
It took me a year to get round to opening and painting the Warhammer Kill Team Octarius box-set, which I had ordered on the morning of release. I first 'had' to work through a tiny pile of shame. Also, I bought myself a birthday present ten months ago: Guardians of the Riverbank from the Northumberland Tin Soldier Company. They would have been painted by now, to play using rules by Burrows and Badgers, but I kind of got carried away with painting up a small Ork and Gretchin army!
In the meantime, GW have released a tonne of stuff that I'd love to buy, if only I had the time and money (inflation permitting!). However, I have mastered my desires like a Zen Buddhist and will wait patiently for The Day!
I paced myself at first, but being pretty good at painting from the outset got me way too excited to do it and I started hunting around for deals, ended up with more models than I know what to do with. I've since dialed my spending WAY down in favor of building and painting what I have ( I don't generally have the time to play games, I've still yet to play a single game of warhammer or even killteam) and the other stuff I do to chill out.
I buy a model and paint it, repeat.
Having too many models sat waiting in the wings does seem to cripple my enthusiasm.
awesome video. I just got an idoneth deepkin box that I don't really "need" but it will be so much fun to zen out with.