Just a video about a chainring
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- čas přidán 4. 04. 2020
- I'm serious, nothing crazy to see here, just a new chainring from Garbaruk that will adore my crank for the foreseeable future. I will of course check the weight, but the more nerdy thing if a bit of a noise test and to see how much offset this ring is compared to my Old Easton ring.
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#itsjustachainring #garbaruk - Jak na to + styl
So just a followup after some more sessions indoors. The smallest cog I definitely can say is noisier, the biggest cog might be a smidge noisier as well. I still need to try some more adjusting, do more riding (and cleaning), maybe a few more A-B tests and do some rides outside to make my mind up about this. I also have some other ideas to try and make is quiet as possible (Shifting is unaffected btw). So will try and do a long term follow up eventaully.
I went from a Praxis Zayante to Shimano GRX crankset because the clicking noise from the Zayante was irritating me. (I've got sensitive ears...) Best side-grade ever! Perhaps you should give the GRX one-by a try if chainring noise is something you think is somewhat important. :) Another reason for you to spend money! BTW, you should consider asking VOID for sponsorship. You are the reason why half my closet is stuffed full of VOID jerseys.....
There are two main reasons I rate your videos as the best available. Firstly, the content is of high interest to me. Secondly, your production values are outstanding. And thirdly, okay three main reasons, your presentation and narration are excellent and not annoying in any way. Thank you for being here.
always appreciate that cinematic trailer / intro sequence
Loved the resonance moment 😂
The new ring looks way nicer. For the 5.2g you could drill a few holes 🤣
That intro was freakin awesome!
Great video as usual. That ring is gorgeous! I have had an Easton powermeter crankset on order since November... I'm hoping it ships soon so I can build up my bike with one of these rings.
Another awesome video dude. Stay safe. Love from Scotland.
Love your vids mate! Keep safe.
Your pain cave is looking really awesome Sir ! It’s wonderful to know you are locked away safe and well. 😍🥰❤️
Haven’t left the apartment for a month... so pretty much like it always been 😜
Cheers!
Sick video dude looking for a new chainring very helpful
I've been running a Garbaruk 40-teeth chainring for a year and I'm very happy with its performance.The longer teeth keep the chain in place even on the bumpier groads
Big Cannondale design fan too. The new chainring looks amazing.
Looking on Garbaruk too for a while now
Thanks for interesting video. Useful to learn how direct-mount chainrings are mounted, since I don’t have these on my bikes.
Garbaruk is family name. Company from Ukraine, now located in Poland.
AbsoluteBlack chainrings are also made in Poland, same people?
@@AVAV-jl1hi :)) Like I said - Located in Poland.
Cool intro. I must watch it twice. Have a lot of fun with the bike and chainring. More riding videos with the amazing landscape would be nice. The quality of your videos are excellent. Go on with it.
I thought that opening sequence is another ad, AGAIN! Nice work
Your a entertaining guy thanks for the video I liked and subbed
Nice one, mate! Great artistic opening! You definitely have a talent! Who else could make a chainring interesting!?!?
7:05. Flip that wrench over, bro. The movable end of the wrench should not be on the outside when applying force, but inside. The fixed end is stronger and will reduce the risk of rounding off the corners of the bolt or nut. Same goes for removal (5:09). "Garbaruk" sounds like the name of a wild animal. I wouldn't have known it is a chain ring brand if you just said it casually on the street! "Oh, there goes a garbaruk!" The beginning of the video looks like a scene from Le Grand Bleu.
Had never even thought about that, almost never used the wrench apart from rotor truing 😅
Cheers mate!
Was trying to formulate it when I saw you had already reported on this.
@@ridesofjapan I was about to comment that in a shop, the only purpose of an adjustable wrench should be to bend stuff :D
Great comment; technically and culturally insightful, concise, a dash of humour, AND grammatically correct. 9/10
I have a couple of these. Love them they are soooo bling.. Everyone comments on how cool it looks. Regarding the offset...I emailed Garbaruck and they gave me the specs very quickly.
The new ring will get a little bit quieter once worn in. As long as you dont notice it, it doesnt matter anyway.
Oh the horror of finding out your ring has too much offset! 😥 (Enjoyed your video as always, so much info and well researched ☝️)
I’ve found especially on my mtb some chainrings are a bit tight on the chain until it wears in a little with the chain, the teeth on these narrow/wide are longer on some as you’ve noticed with the new one
Hey man, I relly love all your videos. Everything is interesting! BTW, may I know what is the tooth count for your Garbaruk chainring?
Best rings :D I got Garbaruk chainrings on all my 4 bikes now :D
I have garbaruk 10-46 cassette.
It provide very clunky shifting with xtr di2 RD
Nice.🤘🏻
Killer socks!
Hey, I am ordering as well (like crazy: overshoes, jerseys, gloves, you name it). So it looks global economy holds only on our shoulders :-).
As a videographer, I was more impressed with your choice of recorder (Sound Device Mix-Pre) and microphone (AKG C93, I think?). Quality content regardless!
Haha, good eye 👍 The mic is an Okatva mk12 though ;)
@@ridesofjapan Damnit, I was positive it was an AKG mic! In my defence, the mic was out of focus :p As for the noise comparison (listening to both through my studio monitor speakers), the new chain ring seems to produce more "energy" in the lower frequency that I think is adding a few dB over the Easton. But I also wonder that could be coming from something else (e.g., the wahoo trainer).
Ultralight dropper incoming. Calling it!
I feel ya! Thanks for producing this content! I know you have Hope rotors...I’ve got about 160km on their RX4 calipers. Best upgrade I did.I feel ya! Thanks for producing this content! I know you have Hope rotors...I’ve got about 160km on their RX4 calipers. Best upgrade I did.
I have one of those on my SiSLs!
Quality video again. I hate chain noise too. 🙉
Also, absolute black recommends you buy 2 or 3 chains and swap them in order every month or so to extend the life of your rings and cassette. They say it's the chain growth and grit that wears the rings out much faster than they should be worn. Also, this lets you put on a perfectly clean chain without manual cleaning. You could soak your used chain and use something like a sonic cleaner on dirty chains while you ride your fresh clean chain.
Fervent Dissent
Not worth IMO...for 50€
Seriously? You do realize that the chain wears faster than the other components right? And yes, the dirt causes the wear, therefore keep your drivetrain clean. There's no need to have 3 sets of components laying around. AB makes some rediculous claims. If they made a cassette they would tell you to buy 3 of those too.
I literally just put one of these on my back an hour ago!
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Chain gang!
Thank you for these entertaining videos. Much appreciated. I will jump on the weight weinie wagon when I lose my beer gut, which would entail giving up beer, which pretty much is not going to happen.
It's always good to set goals, regardless if you ever reach them.... or so they say 😄
Cheers!
Chain ring lives matter!
YES! Hopefully the old one will go to a new home 🤨
If this was a mainly ascetic change you should showed us the full bike with this baby on it! Thanks for the vid.
That a very good point! Sorry bout that!
Next upgrade will definitely show car the whole bike better 🙇♂️
Garbaruk designed a great cage for derailleur GRx812 too to alllow higher cassette range...
Btw: on Zwift if you run 1x and 42 in front what is your cassette range ?
Thanks and keep this good content 👍
Montagne, chemins de 11-32, soon to be 11-42
I just purchased this exact setup (NIB) from a local racer on Craigslist, and I'm wondering if the offset ever gave you problems with shifting into your lowest cog? I definitely notice the noise and the shifting is excellent between the other 10 cogs, but it really does not want to drop into the 11t.
In your experience, did the offset affect your small-cog shifting, or do I just have more adjusting to do with the limits and shift position?
Hello there, sou you have bunch of parts you don’t need 🤔
That Garbaruk chainring looks really nice and yes as I know from my personal experiance all the 1x drivetrains make some kind of noise. I have SinRace NW steel chainring on my MTB and it sounds similar like your new ring. Usually wen I ride I record with my GoPro and it picks up that sound great, specially if I am close to some kind of wall during the ride.
Those chai rings look so cool! I think it's worth the 5.2 Grammes. (Please forgive me but I'm not a fully fledged weightaholic yet!!!😂)
Yep, definitely prosponed.
Loving your content even when i cant avord most of it 😂 still looking for a cheap way to build up my 1x12 to a 2x12 for even lower gearing. With the bikepacking stuff mountains kill me each time. Or a 38 on the front 🐻
Check out "Pathlesspedaled" on CZcams, he has done tons of "cheap" 1x tinkering
@@ridesofjapan thanks a lot.
no worries about weight difference. it's cause easton chainring already has some wear, whereas a brand new garbaruk is about to lose those grams thru friction while riding :-D shouts out from ukraine! keep it up!
А он Гарбарук или Гарбарюк?
What would you recommend as the best compromise of shift quality/weight/cost for 2X Shimano 12 speed these days? Is the Cannondale Hollowgram still the best?
Long time fan, loving your content!🤩
For weight saving: titanium thru axels! Just saying 😎
Cheers from Copenhagen!☀️
Cheers mate!
The carbon-Ti axles that come with the open are some of the lightest you can find, so don’t think I can save much weight there, but if you some links, please share ;)
@@ridesofjapan just realised I'm in presences of a weight weenie pro!
86g is light in my experience. Look for TICOOL Titanium Through Axle Shaft Thru-axle for 12mm*142mm on ebay 😁
@@ridesofjapan Speaking of thru-axles: TICARA axles by ASERRA, titanium core with a carbon outer for strength-to-weight-gains. And compared to the already low weight Carbon-Tis, probably a great way to burn some budget😋
I also, as a Swede, have trouble getting any numbers on chainline offset from Garbaruk. I today use a 32T Oval with my Shimano XTR 12-spd. Want to get a 34T, but not sure it will fit.
If I understand it correctly, the bigger the ring, the less is the offset (inwards). But I have not confirmed this myself as I only have one ring.
Nice Sound Device ! Is it an Oktava mic?
Yes
I was wondering why we had not seen any Garbaruk components yet :) Have you ever considered one of their lightweight cassettes for your gravel setup ? They are considerably lighter than a Shimano XT !
Tangui Aladjidi not currently, they don’t have the gear range I want. I’ve heard rumors that they might in the future though.
The garbaruk ring will get a bit quieter with use. Give it some more time
you should use a breaker bar for this, it's much better than a adjustable wrench. also don't use a torque wrench. I was lucky and found a breaker bar on a trail once, so now I use it after removing the rust from it.
have you talked about latex inner tubes? they should make your ride substantially faster, but is it too risky with regards to risk of flats? Also wheel material - should make a substantial difference, too.
I’m 100% tubeless.
did you check chain wear? as going from a wear matched chainring - chain to a new chainring with a worn chain will result in more noise as the chain won't sit on the chainring as well.
Yes. chain is relatively new and only has 2 rides outside, the rest on the indoor trainer.
Still I will give it some time to "wear in" properly before my final verdict... also have some other ideas coming up
What were your thought on the Shimano/Wolftooth chainring? Link to previous video?
The wolfthooth works just as good as this one.
czcams.com/video/B0N07GfnNw4/video.html
That’s funny I decided to buy Garbaruk cassette and chainring. Hopefully it works well, looks much better than the grx stuff and switched to 10-46 cassette over shimano 11-46, saved me 125 grams with a bit more range. Plus I was able to get them in my accent color orange, their derailleur cage looks great also. When I’m done with changing everything I’ll update my bike on Opens bike showcase.
Ok, And how are you feelings after a while? I also consider the same change..
danielwro1 still working very well, just requires some tweaking.
I have the feeling that all brand-new Chainrings und Gears are slightly noisier than the old ones. I assume that the new mechanics need a little time to break in. I would redo the test in a few weeks.
r0mpastompa yep, agreed.. will do a long term follow up of some kind.
What color space do you use for your videos? CZcams shows the final product as rec709, or bt709. This gets compressed by youtube and has terrible color banding. Have you thought about HDR videos? There colors are amazing and they never have banding artifacts.
Rec709.
HDR looks terrible for people who don’t have HDR screens (like me), so no, never thought about it.
@@ridesofjapan When I change the color space setting in my browser youtube auto switches between 709 and 2020. I learned this watching a HDR review. By default, youtube gives me HDR videos. czcams.com/video/S3FJHIY0ag8/video.html
How are you liking the Wahoo Kickr Core?
Works as advertised 👍
Great video as always. You should check out Gustav Gullholm (dangerholm) on Instagram, he uses Garbaruk chainrings too. However, I think he polishes them down to a shiny silver. I think he removes a fair bit of surface layer (I’m not fully sure though, he might just be removing the anodising), and that may save some weight.
Cheers mate!
You can get the Garbaruk chainrings in a bunch of different colors including silver 👍
@@ridesofjapan Yeah, I'm not sure if he got it in the silver option initially or polished them, since I known he polishes a lot of other components and shaves weight that way. Good luck with your other upgrades, keep us posted on the bike 😊
Tobias, you need to do a review of the Tailfin.cc aeropack and pannier bags. These seem like they were made for you (and your bikepacking adventures)
Jim Hansen sorry, bags requiring hardware to mount is not my thing.
@@ridesofjapan you might be surprised. R only "hardware" required is a replacement thru-axle that the rack clips on to. I hate having bags flopping around in the back of my bike. These things are Rock solid. Only downside is they are pricey.
My two cents concerning 1x conversions: some narrow-wide chainrings are indeed noisier than others. Other factors also come into play, such as the chain model (and brand) used and the length of the chainstays. However, most issues appear when using the largest sprocket (or the two largest sprockets), and they are also the most annoying ones. Imagine how dreadful it is to grind your guts out in your lowest gear, while climbing a monster slope, and having to hear a constant and annoying grinding noise coming from your chainring. That's why I think your noise comparison video should have been made when the chain was on the largest sprocket, not a middle one, and with some trainer resistance.
More on topic, I know from a fellow forum user that Garbaruk chainrings (in his case, the Melon oval one) are indeed noisier than what he previously had (I believe an SRAM one) when the transmission is on the two largest sprockets. I've used two otherwise identical B.O.R. narrow-wide chainrings on two different bikes, but with identical chains and similar sprockets, and ironically the one with the shorter chainstays was also more silent. Currently, I'm using a setup with a regular (non narrow-wide) inner ring and a small braze-on chain catcher from Praxis Works. Far less noise, no chain issues so far, LIGHTER (about 15g less than a NW chainring)
My Garbaruk 40T oval was very noisy. Yours sounds fine. Garbaruk does not accept returns, which stinks. Equivalent Wolf Tooth I have no issues now. But beware of Garbaruk their customer service is bad, roll of the dice. The teeth are unnecessarily tall by 2 or 3mm. If you look close at the leading and trailing edge of the wide teeth on the Garbaruk, they are squared and not shaped nearly as much as SRAM or Wolf Tooth chainring. I think overall the more basic machining of the Garbaruk chainring is going to result in more noise with some chains. And Garbaruk could mot recommend any specific chain they say would work best. They were no help just refused a return or replacement.
My experiences are similar.. too loud in my case, and becomes annoying while riding especially with lower ratio (biggest cassette sprockets). So you recommned woolf to replace the Garbaruk one?
Btw have you heard any comments about their shimano cassette? I must replace my current M7000 11-42 to some 11-46, And consider M8000 or just Garbaruk (for look and weight).
@@danielwro1 The Wolf tooth - now 10 months later - has been flawless and quiet. Not much wear for 2000 miles +.
wondering what your preference is between the wolf tooth and easton ring? I'm considering these for a 1x build. Thanks!
For 11 speed they seem about the same (Although I haven't used them long enough to comment on durablity)
I'd choose the one that's lighter or cheaper. (Or the one I think looks better)
@@ridesofjapan cool thanks! seems like the easton is a few grams lighter
Need more #LUFT ;)
I didn't understand why you swapped them out. Did you hit a scheduled maintenance threshold of some kind?
Plan was to swap at the end of this season, but since I got it early I decided to swap anyway, mostly for esthetic reasons.
What chain lube do you use?
Smoove
How many km can resist your chains? I have a force 1 groupset and is in the middle life with about 500km (cleaning usually and lubed) and seems too little life to me, Im arrived from a campy road groupset that resists a lot more
You should definitely be able to get more than 500km out of a chain in my experience.
I usually change mine around 2500-3000km, and usually they are still good to go for a bit longer
@@ridesofjapan I think so. Its not at the end of his life but 500km to see extension seems too short for me but is my first 1x group. Thank you
Do you ever use 44t chainrings?
I was about to say no, but I just ordered a 44T Easton ring for use on the indoor trainer as I would like a bit faster ratio then the 42-11 combo I have now
#prosponed at 1:07 🤣 #reinventingthebritishlanguage, again, love it 👍😂
How often do you put on a new chain?
Probably 2 to 3 chains/season. Usually swap before I notice any stretch to protect cassettes and chainrings (I know it way overkill and OCD😅)
You'll loose 5g of paint when it wears in no prob! Love your films :-)
hey i'm driving singelspeed Maybe you have any recommendations about the drive? I am mainly interested in the free wheel (17T). Maybe someone else has good recommendations?
Sorry, not something a can help with I’m afraid.
@@ridesofjapan Thanks any way for answer. I learn here....well.... about precision ;)
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european man discovers music
Why is the bike facing away from the TV?
Eivind Jahren for the video
Peace
anyone knows how to remove the driveside of this crank when its not getting off by hand?
i think i overdid the crankbolt a little on the aluminium version :x
Should have gone for Digirit carbon CH
5g well sacrificed. Very good looking crank set.
lucky you got onto zwift when you did and got a kickr beofre they sold out :)
My timing is impeccable as usual ;)
you dont have amazon links to contribute when buying from Europe countries?
Don’t think you can find these on amazon, but if you want to search, feel free to use the links at the bottom of the description ;)
@@ridesofjapan I was not referring to buy the chainring, but as a general link like you provide for amazon US and ect.
@@robertofernandezvazquez8755 Sorry, UK and Germany is the only European affiliate accounts I have at the moment.
Is it stiffer?
I can’t perceive any difference at all in that department, not enough watts
@@ridesofjapan I think he's talking about the chainring😉
Garbaruk used to list the offset of its chainrings with a table on its website, I don't know why they removed it. If you email them, they'd probably send it to you. It looks like you got the 12 speed chainring, hence the engraving. How come you didn't get the standard version which is meant for 11 speed?
Maybe we will find out soon 🙃
The ring should be 11 & 12 speed compatible like most third-part rings these days... also eagerly awaiting Shimano 12speed 😬
@@ridesofjapan just 🎣 🎣 🎣 Tobias 😉
@@ridesofjapan Did you order the standard or 12 speed version? I just received a chainring that I ordered as standard chain compatibility but the it has "12s" engraved on it. I'm waiting on what they have to say to find out if they sent me the wrong one.
Dude. You could make some good music by pinging that chainring.
Sad to see VOID folding.
Me too 😢
Dude! It was shock upon shock....first, 6 grams heavier! Then seeing grunge on the Easton chainring! This corona thing is fraying the fabric of our civilization! Stay away from others and play with your bike...great social distancing. You should have time to finally give it a good cleaning 😉
That was after 250km riding though ;) (indoor, but still 😜)
Rides of Japan the first step to recovery is acknowledging you have a problem🤣 OCD is now ok and normal...washing hands all the time....so cleaning the bike excessively is only a corona virus mitigation procedure to ensure they don't hitch a ride on you drivetrain🚴🏻♂️🤣😎
Q U A L I T Y video.
Zoop 👉👉
So, it is inferior to easton in every way. But it does look better imho.
Something was bugging me about this video, and you has opened my eyes to exactly what it was. But in my opinion the Easton ring looks slightly better. 🙂. Love the content though.
A quieter chain maybe?
Got any suggestions?
Rides of Japan I've noticed that KMC chains have always been the quieter chains on my various setups, 1x or 2x.
That’s what I had on before the current chain, and I don’t really notice any difference to this PYC chain... I’ve keep hearing that the new Shimano 12 speed chain is super quiet on 11-speed drive trains though 🤔
@@ridesofjapan Last shimano chain I installed (XT CN-HG701) is the noisiest I've ever had. So it would be great to know if this 12 speed chain can be an option.
Did you see that Void has gone bankrupt? 😭I'm so sad!
Sad indeed 😔
5% of weight increase
Void har konkat :(. Så du får ta hand om dina kläder så de håller :).
Det är min tribute till dem ;)
Tittar om några gamla videos. Min 2,5åring gick förbi och nu säger hon GaRRbarUKK
nobody in February:
literally nobody in February:
Rides of Japan: // PANIC BUYS BIKE PARTS
I keep thinking you are using voidlinux.org/
😂