Creating the sound of The Strokes w/ Is This It and Room on Fire producer Gordon Raphael

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  • Legendary 'Is This It' and 'Room on Fire' producer Gordon Raphael, who is credited with helping create the sound of The Strokes, joined us to talk about when he first met the band and his engineering process.
    We were so happy to invite Gordon Raphael to our Bristol campus where he gave an excellent Learn From The Pros Masterclass on his creative processes and how he helped craft the sound of The Strokes.
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    00:00 - Meeting The Strokes
    02:22 - The Modern Age EP success
    03:32 - How Gordan came to produce 'Is This It'
    09:09 - Producing the sound of The Strokes
    10:59 - Julian Casablancas' vocal effects
    13:30 - The guitar sound and compositional techniques
    17:33 - The mics used
    19:15 - How Gordon records bands now
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Komentáře • 188

  • @wormRock21
    @wormRock21 Před rokem +136

    This guy made one of the best records in history and yet he seems so humble and nice, thank you for posting this

  • @syfenx
    @syfenx Před rokem +326

    So this guy made me think all my speakers were broken as a teen

  • @emiliaukaszkiewicz1426
    @emiliaukaszkiewicz1426 Před rokem +133

    This man has such a calming presence.. I could watch him for hours, such a cool dude

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem +3

      So could we! Luckily for you, there's more incoming from Gordon this weekend on how he works with artists as a producer and more to come in the following weeks! Make sure to subscribe to our channel 🤗

    • @arcticmonkey505
      @arcticmonkey505 Před rokem

      Should have kept him as producer. Literally the reason why all the Strokes albums after First Impressions of Earth sucked fat dock, except maybe the one with Rick Rubin.

    • @squash15
      @squash15 Před rokem +2

      @@arcticmonkey505 you might wanna listen to comedown machine again

    • @julianlaverde1380
      @julianlaverde1380 Před 11 měsíci

      @@arcticmonkey505 I think it works until it doesn't. The Strokes needed to move away in order to find new sounds. Otherwise, they would have been stuck into the same music style. Don't forget they were really criticized when Room on fire came out, people thought it was Is this it 2.0, also, it didn't sell as expected...

  • @SEATACx
    @SEATACx Před rokem +42

    Gordon! He was my uncle back in the day (married to my aunt). An extremely kind, thoughtful, and intriguing man. So exciting to see him pop up on CZcams like this. Hope you’re well sir!

    • @rupman27isback
      @rupman27isback Před rokem +3

      Ask him what happened to the band "Come on" lol

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem

      He's a great guy! We really enjoyed having visit us and our students

  • @stephenmonkemeier9464
    @stephenmonkemeier9464 Před 7 měsíci +11

    I've never been able to put into words what I love about the Strokes and those first 2 albums, but this man explained it perfectly at 14:11 -it's composition. They're not just cool and edgy, the music is also complex and perfectly arranged. There were a lot of edgy bands back then. I think it's this aspect that makes the Strokes' music timeless and something I want to listen to over and over

  • @pranjallpahuja
    @pranjallpahuja Před rokem +132

    okay this is one of my favourtie interviews EVER. i love his story telling so much

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem +7

      So glad you liked it! Gordon was so great to chat to while he was with us in Bristol! We've got more videos from this interview coming up so make sure to subscribe!

    • @scmcdougal8917
      @scmcdougal8917 Před rokem +1

      I didn’t know this info about Jules truly visionary

    • @user-qw1lh2lc3c
      @user-qw1lh2lc3c Před rokem +2

      you should read Gordons book!! its absolutely wonderful!! filled with these types of stories about the strokes and beyond

    • @rupman27isback
      @rupman27isback Před rokem

      @@dBsInstitute I hope so because there was no talk about "Room on Fire"

    • @pranjallpahuja
      @pranjallpahuja Před rokem

      @@user-qw1lh2lc3c i didnt know about that!! ill check it out, thanks!

  • @wyrlismike
    @wyrlismike Před rokem +34

    i like that this guy truly has his own thing for producing. he was a big part of creating that sound

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem +3

      Yeah, he really helped to capture their sound. We've also just published another video on the channel about how Gordon works with artists as a producer generally and there's more on the way. If you haven't already, subscribe to the channel!

  • @overdramaticgrandma
    @overdramaticgrandma Před 7 měsíci +10

    He is extremely humble and chill which made this so enjoyable plus I love his storytelling technique & he's giving the perfect amount of detail imo

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před 7 měsíci

      Loved this talk with Gordon. What a legend!

  • @shekeib
    @shekeib Před rokem +18

    16:42 "every note had to be under control"
    🎵BUT I DON"T WANNA DO IT THAAAAT WAY 🎵

    • @enshen2190
      @enshen2190 Před 3 měsíci +2

      I don’t wanna waste your tiimmee

  • @MrBrokentowels
    @MrBrokentowels Před rokem +88

    They should have made all of their records with him.

    • @AB-sw4kb
      @AB-sw4kb Před rokem +10

      Nah

    • @lonelittlejerry917
      @lonelittlejerry917 Před rokem +1

      @@AB-sw4kb Valid

    • @rupman27isback
      @rupman27isback Před rokem +2

      Agree, Comedown Machine was a terrible album that I'll never forgive The Strokes for lol

    • @gretameske7605
      @gretameske7605 Před rokem +5

      @@rupman27isback yeah my impression was it was essentially a joke and an F - you to RCA so definitely their worst work in my opinion (but maybe that was the point?). I really love the sound of their first two records but their newest one, although very different in sound/style to their earlier days is one of their best imo and they wouldn't have gotten that with Gordon even though he is still great

    • @rupman27isback
      @rupman27isback Před rokem +2

      @gretameske7605 agree with you 100%! When I first heard Comedown Machine. I also thought it was a joke 😆. I was waiting for the real album to come out lol
      I also love The New Abnormal.
      Also check out Albert's new solo album. Soo good

  • @Chuco029
    @Chuco029 Před rokem +7

    I find it so comforting to know that when Julien describes things, he says it in ways so that people have to go back with a freaking codex to decipher it. It shows how for him, the sound is a whole body experience and not just the ears.

  • @paulmosman6468
    @paulmosman6468 Před rokem +7

    Idk why but these stories are fucking hilarious. The way julian casablanca is such a honest asshole? his lines are awesome. It just makes me think this would translate so well on screen.
    Gordon is a fantastic story teller also.

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem +1

      Hey Paul. Glad you liked this one! Yeah, he's hilarious! More to come from Gordon on the channel so keep your eyes peeled! 👀

  • @IrradioMan
    @IrradioMan Před rokem +18

    15:30 i’ve always said this too, listening to the strokes feels like listening to classical music.

    • @AB-sw4kb
      @AB-sw4kb Před rokem +6

      Yeah, Is This It is like a string quartet but the string instrument is a guitar

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem +2

      Great bit of insight, right??

  • @DukeFame88
    @DukeFame88 Před rokem +6

    The early 2000s was the last great era of innovative rock music. I wish we got him to share more of his inspiration for the "sound". ..My guess is this guy loved Guided by Voices (Bee Thousand album)....Rob Pollard is a low fi genius.

  • @muteussouza
    @muteussouza Před rokem +35

    Thank you very much for this interview, since MTV's death the kind of content music lovers enjoy is all over the place on the internet, and an rich and detailed interview as this is such a gem, we need more material of this kind from as many producers or baskstage people you can invite, the 2000's bands are veterans now and this can really help give insights to new artists wanting to begin their careers or getting inspiration and motivation. Obviously this was not a common and predictable series of events, and the music market nowadays is considerably different with the advent of social media, but all we need to inspire musicians is to plant the seed of making music born from their hearts and care for it. Great job.

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem +1

      So glad you liked this video and appreciate us getting Gordon down 🤗 We try and invite as many industry insiders as possible over to our campuses to speak to our students so keep an eye out for more insightful interviews on our channel!

  • @hawsrulebegin7768
    @hawsrulebegin7768 Před rokem +5

    What a lovely guy and great storyteller. He shaped a moment in rock history.

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před 11 měsíci +1

      He really did! It was so interesting having a guy who has helped make such a difference to music culture here with our students!

  • @itstheprintshop
    @itstheprintshop Před rokem +12

    This is honestly one of the most important things I've ever learned about composition. Thank you SO much. It really opened my eyes.

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem +3

      So glad that you found this useful! We've got more coming from Gordon about his creative process and how he got into the industry as well!

  • @Temmple
    @Temmple Před rokem +3

    I remember Gordon from a local Seattle band he was in called Sky Cries Mary back in the early 90’s. Such a smart nice guy ❤

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před 11 měsíci +2

      Yeah Gordon is a great guy. Hopefully we will see him again soon!

  • @clydeg4274
    @clydeg4274 Před rokem +7

    This guy looks like the guy who produced the strokes first two albums

  • @atthewhiskey
    @atthewhiskey Před 11 měsíci +3

    This is an amazing interview and story. The sound of the Modern Age EP & This Is It is one of my favorite sounding records ever. It's up their with the greatest of all time.

  • @ErnestoM.
    @ErnestoM. Před rokem +18

    Really interesting, Gordon seems like a really cool dude, thanks to him for making such a great album possible!

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem +1

      Yeah, he really is such a nice guy and super interesting! More to come from him this weekend on the channel 👀

  • @jimmyscott7414
    @jimmyscott7414 Před rokem +3

    Such a classic album. So raw 🎶

  • @aZeddPrattFilm
    @aZeddPrattFilm Před rokem +6

    Wow. Remarkable. I am so happy this happened.

  • @mattemilo
    @mattemilo Před rokem

    Great interview :)

  • @jeffreyhall76
    @jeffreyhall76 Před rokem

    What a joy to hear from producers

  • @JuanDanielSolar
    @JuanDanielSolar Před rokem +2

    Me encanta, qué genial entrevista

  • @avantgardo
    @avantgardo Před rokem +5

    Beautiful man beautiful interview

  • @JM-co6rf
    @JM-co6rf Před rokem

    I love this interview.

  • @twitcheyspleen
    @twitcheyspleen Před 11 měsíci

    this is great. thank you for this

  • @Kitchyyy
    @Kitchyyy Před rokem +1

    love this video

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem +1

      He's such an interesting guy with great stories, isn't he!?

  • @andrewnotion
    @andrewnotion Před rokem +1

    He's the best! Thank you Gordon for producing and recording the best rock album of the 21st century. The Strokes

  • @noparkingnoparking
    @noparkingnoparking Před rokem +3

    this made my night

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem +1

      Gordon is a legend, isn't he?? We've got more videos from this interview coming up so make sure to subscribe!

  • @jiaqikang866
    @jiaqikang866 Před rokem +3

    This was such an interesting watch, thank you !

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem

      Glad you enjoyed it! Subscribe to the channel and you'll see more coming from Gordon in the next few weeks!

  • @noisebleed1980
    @noisebleed1980 Před rokem

    such a cool guy!

  • @BradcruiseUSA
    @BradcruiseUSA Před rokem +2

    Wow this man is a legend. So humble. ❤

  • @frankbonarrigo6086
    @frankbonarrigo6086 Před rokem

    So glad this nice guy found success

  • @bakainblack
    @bakainblack Před rokem +1

    EYE OPENING.

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem

      Really is super interesting isn't it!? More coming from Gordon about how he works as a producer this weekend!

  • @pineoandloeb
    @pineoandloeb Před rokem

    Amazing how this came back around!

  • @joeyjguerrero
    @joeyjguerrero Před rokem +10

    I found this very enlightening! Listening to 90’s Industrial music now. Thanks for posting it!

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem +1

      So glad you liked it! More from Gordon coming soon 👀

  • @sratus
    @sratus Před rokem +2

    One of the good guys.

  • @alejandroserrano7755
    @alejandroserrano7755 Před rokem +3

    Amazing interview! Such a cool dude. It’s always a treat hearing about these behind the scene stories.

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem

      So glad you liked this! We've got more coming from Gordon soon and we have new speakers coming to our campuses all year around, so subscribe and keep your eyes peeled for more like this 👀

  • @shadow_4111
    @shadow_4111 Před rokem

    Super awesome 🤩

  • @NEEDSHES
    @NEEDSHES Před rokem +1

    Oh my God what a wonderful humble person super talented ❤ I feel so comfortable listening to him recording one of my favorite bands)

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před 11 měsíci

      Yeah, he is such a lovely guy! It was so good having him down to our campus for this chat.

  • @eancurtis9333
    @eancurtis9333 Před 5 měsíci

    Amazing this guy rules

  • @DOGBUS
    @DOGBUS Před rokem +12

    loved it!! wish there was more about room on fire tho

  • @johnwilmer2551
    @johnwilmer2551 Před rokem +1

    this was gold

  • @junkdnareviews2515
    @junkdnareviews2515 Před rokem

    This was so interesting

  • @deleted8800
    @deleted8800 Před 7 měsíci

    wow, this is my first time hearing this man talk. his impersonation of Julian and Fab is on point!

  • @roonyq
    @roonyq Před rokem

    Masterfully told.

  • @matthewleger5605
    @matthewleger5605 Před rokem +2

    Really great interview. Thanks for sharing.

  • @lexremillard2549
    @lexremillard2549 Před rokem +1

    what a cool dude. Always thinking outside of the box and creatively. Bad ass.

  • @RSanchez111
    @RSanchez111 Před rokem +9

    Great stories and great info

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem +1

      So glad you liked it! Gordon is such a legend. We've got more videos from this interview coming up so make sure to subscribe!

  • @CharlieSheps
    @CharlieSheps Před rokem

    Great interview

  • @rupman27isback
    @rupman27isback Před rokem +8

    What happened to the band "Come On"? And crazy that Gordon didn't care for The Strokes' sound immediately.. they're absolute legends. I love their sound!

    • @NguyenDuy-ob8eq
      @NguyenDuy-ob8eq Před rokem +2

      I'm wondering the same, does anyone know any track from Come On?

    • @plothora
      @plothora Před rokem +1

      ditto, would love to find some old recordings

    • @theactorjohnlarroquette
      @theactorjohnlarroquette Před rokem

      the only Come On I could find is the band from the late 70s

    • @_hector_hidalgo
      @_hector_hidalgo Před 11 měsíci

      I need to know that band

    • @federicocaiazzo1912
      @federicocaiazzo1912 Před 9 měsíci

      Gordon recounts the story of Come On in this Strokes’ podcast: czcams.com/video/MBNMeBtU4zY/video.htmlsi=j0sCoPjZ02-IRWNi

  • @garryrptr
    @garryrptr Před 7 měsíci

    I love the way he speak & tell a story

  • @rionjames
    @rionjames Před rokem +2

    This is a great interview really insightful. Seems a really nice fella

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem

      Yeah he is a great guy and so funny! Glad you enjoyed this interview.

  • @benjaminvega8112
    @benjaminvega8112 Před rokem

    the man's a genius

  • @VitoMartinok
    @VitoMartinok Před rokem

    Beautiful. The Cure does something like that with multiple melodies singing along with the Lead.

  • @fartsooup
    @fartsooup Před 10 měsíci

    woahhhh so he came up with the compressed vocals.. awesome

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před 10 měsíci +1

      An amazing contribution to their sound!

  • @cyprn6600
    @cyprn6600 Před rokem

    Counterpoint in the strokes 👏

  • @M26Taylor
    @M26Taylor Před 6 měsíci

    What a fucking incredible interview!

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thanks! So glad you enjoyed this :)

  • @jn1346
    @jn1346 Před rokem +1

    I’ve been waiting for this since I was 11 years old

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem

      The wait is finally over!

    • @jn1346
      @jn1346 Před rokem

      @@dBsInstitute 21 years later !

  • @joshuacall4356
    @joshuacall4356 Před měsícem

    Amazing talent and great dude.

  • @chickenlickin3820
    @chickenlickin3820 Před rokem +10

    great chat.

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem +4

      Glad you enjoyed this! Gordon was such an interesting interviewee. Keep your eyes peeled for more from him about how he produces soon 👀

    • @chickenlickin3820
      @chickenlickin3820 Před rokem +1

      @@dBsInstitute will do thanks for all you do.

  • @craigmachen
    @craigmachen Před rokem

    Damn, Gordon Raphael is a great story teller.

  • @WeeJobbie
    @WeeJobbie Před rokem +3

    Should’ve asked what his favourite songs were, that was really interesting though

  • @izzygrey2981
    @izzygrey2981 Před rokem +3

    I got to work with him. He is so nice.

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem

      Such a nice guy!

    • @izzygrey2981
      @izzygrey2981 Před rokem

      @@dBsInstitute he's really good at getting the vibe and becoming part of the band.

  • @HugoArgentina
    @HugoArgentina Před měsícem

    Tim Blake Nelson should star his biopic

  • @jezzylawson936
    @jezzylawson936 Před 6 měsíci

    Good to know his producing is better than his fashion sense

  • @lowmello
    @lowmello Před rokem +2

    Is there a second part to this?

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem +3

      Hey! There isn't a second part, however, in a Q&A session between our students in the room and Gordon, some of the questions were on The Strokes and we might release that from the vault soon. Hope you enjoyed the video!

  • @pb12661
    @pb12661 Před 8 měsíci

    still their best sound/records. IMO

  • @m.o.n.d.e.g.r.e.e.n
    @m.o.n.d.e.g.r.e.e.n Před rokem

    love how theres just a huge genelec sub casually between them

  • @MG-cc7ku
    @MG-cc7ku Před rokem +1

    What was that band he was talking about in the beginning, Come On? I couldn't find them anywhere

    • @edwardsindustries-20yearsa54
      @edwardsindustries-20yearsa54 Před rokem +6

      I think he was referring to 'Come', i recommend looking up 'Cimarron- Come', they seem to have a british invasion ish sound

  • @174trek
    @174trek Před rokem +20

    This guy sounds remarkably like Justin Trudeau

  • @MinecraftYetirlox
    @MinecraftYetirlox Před rokem +1

    severus snape

  • @startervisions
    @startervisions Před rokem +1

    I heard stories that Jules used to bear-hug everyone

  • @slowaves
    @slowaves Před rokem

    16:52 'cool' 💀

  • @knuds11b8
    @knuds11b8 Před rokem

    Every note had to be Under Control. Uhhhhh yeah

  • @jackdempsey9644
    @jackdempsey9644 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I saw The Strokes at The Mercury Lounge in 2000. I said to my friend Randy, that’s a Cure Bass rip off “Hard To Explain” Another song I said Lou Reed wannabe song. Didn’t think anything of them other than they had a pretty cool look. About a year later I was in Las Vegas in the back seat of these two rich hipster girls Mercedes and they played Last Night super loud. I perked up and said who is this? They said The Strokes.. I said wow this is great!!! It wasn’t until I went to Tower Records and bought the CD and saw their photo that I realized it was the Cure bass rip off band Lol. Needless to say Is This It? Became one of my favorite albums of all time, and it is in fact in my opinion The greatest rock album of the 21st century. The rest is history.

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před 6 měsíci

      Such an incredible album isn't it! 😍
      It was amazing hearing from the man who was so important in crafting that sound. Hope you liked our interview with Gordon.

    • @jackdempsey9644
      @jackdempsey9644 Před 6 měsíci

      @@dBsInstitute Loved it. When the album first came out everyone I knew said the keyboard player from the psychedelic furs produced it lol anyway GREAT interview thank you

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před 6 měsíci

      @@jackdempsey9644 🙏🙏🙏

  • @tobynsaunders
    @tobynsaunders Před rokem

    He looks like he could be James Cameron's brother.

  • @Notkdenben
    @Notkdenben Před rokem +1

    I find it funny how Julian said no to the “industrial” sound, but is now the vocals for the voidz lol. Weird

    • @dBsInstitute
      @dBsInstitute  Před rokem +2

      Gordon's influence is obviously still hanging around!

    • @Notkdenben
      @Notkdenben Před rokem +1

      @@dBsInstitute definitely. Really cool interview. I enjoy all of the strokes work and all of their solo work as well, but I have a special appreciation for the sound of is this it, room on fire, and first impression of earth. There’s no other album like it imo.

  • @GarethThomasTunes
    @GarethThomasTunes Před rokem +6

    Good to have Julian’s arrogance confirmed by such a nice guy. (I met Casablancas on a festival tour and found him quite obnoxious!)

    • @JM-co6rf
      @JM-co6rf Před rokem

      I suspected Julian was a douchebag, but this confirms it

    • @jonautry
      @jonautry Před rokem

      Spoiled rich kid

  • @alf5617
    @alf5617 Před rokem

    Potter, you fool

  • @drakegomer
    @drakegomer Před rokem +1

    What a snooze fest of a crowd

    • @TunelessBoon
      @TunelessBoon Před rokem +1

      What are they meant to do? Jump up and down and wave their hands all about? 😂

    • @drakegomer
      @drakegomer Před rokem +1

      @@TunelessBoon I’m not asking them to hit the Nae Nae. They were just very non-reactive to some of the jokes/responses he was giving.

  • @CappyRev
    @CappyRev Před rokem +3

    They key is having loads of cash from rich parents

  • @stanknugget
    @stanknugget Před rokem +1

    This guy looks ridiculous.

  • @TheMusicalElitist
    @TheMusicalElitist Před rokem +3

    Essentially just copy Television

    • @AB-sw4kb
      @AB-sw4kb Před rokem +1

      and The Velvet Underground

    • @alexgrantham4747
      @alexgrantham4747 Před rokem +5

      Yeah The Strokes ripped off Television big time, but they were probably more consistent melodically and did bite sized pop versions of what TV was doing. I love both bands.

    • @AB-sw4kb
      @AB-sw4kb Před rokem +4

      @@alexgrantham4747 yeah, it's not a true rip-off. also at the time of Is This It's release, they were asked about Television, and none of the Strokes said they knew who they were, which I find hard to believe. Television likes the rhythm section to be melodic, so they'll fit the bass and drums into funny little slots over their recordings, whereas for the Strokes, the guitars were the main focus for both rhythm and texture, even if the melodies were simple, the way they were broken up gave them a different sound.

    • @alexgrantham4747
      @alexgrantham4747 Před rokem +1

      @@AB-sw4kb Yeah I don't believe for a second The Strokes hadn't heard of Television back then 😂

    • @TheMusicalElitist
      @TheMusicalElitist Před rokem +2

      @@alexgrantham4747 My original comment was flippant but you're right: they had DEFINITELY had heard of them.

  • @hatepaste
    @hatepaste Před rokem +6

    Makes me hate the strokes even more. Thank you.

  • @glazedsargent
    @glazedsargent Před rokem +1

    His story about the dinner sounds like a strokes song