Using the ASIAIR with just your DSLR/Mirror-less camera to locate targets.
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- In this video, I will walk you through using your ASIAIR solely with your camera. No guide scopes, and plenty of troubleshooting so you know what difficulties your might run into in the field and how to figure it out. Truth be told, unlike how it appears in the video, it's actually quite quick to find your target when you aren't doing a video stumbling into "problems." The exception was when my battery died. That was unplanned and happened because of the time it takes to shoot a video.
One thing to note that was not covered in the video, is if you are shooting from home and have your phone or tablet connected to the house Wi-Fi you will want to disconnect and forget it. Otherwise, you will have trouble trying to connect to the ASIAIR Wi-Fi.
Hope this is useful to you. If so, please consider sharing, liking, and subscribing.
Thank you for not deleting the trouble shooting scenes and clear instructions. 👏👏👏
Very cool to see you exposing the trouble shooting
Thank you. Sometimes I'm amazed at some of the dumb things I still do. LOL
@@astroventure2221 yep what you did helps others a lot .
It happens to me all the time
Last time my plate solving with asi air was failing later I realized my dslr camera wasn focus
@refetastro done that, too.
Just learning this ASIAir. A great teaching tool with real life results. This is the trouble shooting that the ZWO manuals ignore. Thanks! Clear skies!
You're very welcome.
Thanks for doing this, very helpful for those of us considering this kind of setup.
For what it's worth, I very much appreciate your mis-steps - e.g., battery dying. Turns out I'm not the only one who occasionally forgets to check important stuff. 😊 (A couple weeks ago I took some test images to try to get my lens focused, increasing ISO each time because no stars were visible in the field... spend a good 10 minutes on this before realizing the lens cap was on... In the immortal words of the philosopher Homer (Simpson), DOH!)
Just got an ASIAir mini for my Canon DSLR / Star Adventurer set up so this video has been very useful. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful.
Thank you for this video! I requested this i think in one of your previous videos. Gonna buy the asi air soon !
You are correct. I hope it helps and the troubleshooting I did was useful.
This answered several questions I had. Thanks for the video
Good to hear. You're welcome.
Thank you very much for this video. I thought it required a shutter cable also. That's nice to know that the USB is enough
Happy to help.
Excellent video. Thank you.
Thank you. Hope it was useful.
Very helpful, thank you!
Happy to help as we are going into a dark sky window.
Good video
One suggestion would it be better if you use focusing options to find or center the object it will take photos none stop
I enjoyed this video. A very “real” first night out under the stars example, minus the swearing. 😂
😆 (swearing)
Ty for this very informative
Thank you for your help
You are very welcome.
Have you thought of doing a video on the All Sky Polar Alignment that is in the new software for the ASIAir. Most of the videos I've seen are for GOTO mounts and not for mounts like you are using or the Skywatcher Adventurer 2i.
I have something in the works, but I can't seem to get rid of these clouds in the desert for 4.5 months.
If I was getting started, I would just save a little while longer and just get a go to mount. Once you get polar aligned, you can do everything from inside the house, and it only takes a few seconds to find your target. The time you save is worth the extra cost.
I agree. At the time, there wasn't a go to mount in the same price ballpark. Now, I would send someone on a tight budget to the GTI.
Great video. When I center target on Asiair screen (iPhone) in the actual camera frame it appears upper right corner. I guess after PS a few frame shots will be necessary.
I have no answer to this. I don't even know how it's possible.
This is amazing! It answers quite a few questions I had. For a target Ra and Dec, do the values not change by the time you are close enough to capture it in your frame?
Glad this helped and that's a great question. The imaginary grid, like latitude and longitude on Earth, moves with the stars thus staying in the same location. Consider subscribing and I hope you have clear skies and uneventful nights.
@@astroventure2221 I recently got my ASIAir and can’t wait to try it out. Subscribed! 😃
@@priteshpardeshi5842 practice a few times at home before a big night of imaging. You will love your ASIAIR.
Thank you for your video. I am new to this!. I have always adjusted my iOptron manually. Can you explain exactly what you were doing when you used the buttons to move it? TIA
I'm glad you found this video useful and I hope you subscribe. The buttons that I was using at 10 minutes 43 seconds in the video is to rotate the sky guider either in the direction it rotates or opposite to the direction it rotates rather than releasing the clutch to rotate the assembly. This gives a much higher degree of precision.
This was amazing, I thought that I also needed a guid scope and 120mm camera to do this. What would be the difference in having that extra equipment ? And also connecting the asiair to the connection on the skyguider instead or both camera and skyguider ? Any info will be helpful.
I'm glad this helped you out. The guide scope can be used for both locating a target and for actively guiding to boost accuracy. I will have a video in the future on guiding.
@@astroventure2221 thanks for the info really looking forward to the video on this topic.
Thank you I have the same camera! How are the images from the D7100? Also for the camera lens do you use the mm of the lens times the crop factor?
D7100 works well. 200 mm x 1.5 = 300 mm - Correct, mm x crop factor.
Ideally the software would know the sensor size and apply the crop factor automatically like all planetarium software does. Ideally you'd enter in the true full frame mm focal length. Seems the asiair doesn't work like this? - still waiting for mine to be delivered so haven't looked into this myself yet.
Great video. You might want to do a video using a FujiFilm X series. Because those cameras are not located in the AsiAir profile. How do we get it to work? That would be great. Thanks
Check this video out, it will help.
czcams.com/video/RcOHqyEVADc/video.htmlsi=dyciZd1aEbRC36qz
Do you polar alignment with the Asiair? The procedure isn't clear. It takes an initial picture at the 0 position where Polaris is, then asks you to rotate. Then you adjust, but do you need to bring it back to 0 to start adjustments? Generally, I find that a polar alignment with an App is sufficient but it seemed to help tne fine tuning even if I muddled through it.
What is the longest exposure you can take? I can do 90 seconds unguided with a 80-200mm f2.8 lens.
As much as I love the hobby, I've spent as much as I can simply by buying a Sky Adventure Pro, carbon tripod, and the multitude of gadgets required to make it all work together with my Canon camera. Proud of pictures, most recent the Heart nebula shot in narrowband lenhance filter. The light pollution is a pain fome a big city. Even though the plate solving is a game changer, it still takes a long time to find targets, frame it properly without changing focus.
Thanks for your comments and videos.
Happy to help. No, I don't do polar alignment from the asiair. I use my iPolar. However, I can help. You do not bring it back to zero. The key is not to disturb the camera. As you make adjustments the asiair is doing its plate solving with these known points.
I have a video coming out Friday 9/30 that will help with locating targets.
Nice video . Very helpful. I don't like this 12v power input requirement no battery bank offers that. Automotive batteries r bulky . Pls suggest
For me, I do the auto battery. I find the lithium ion batteries like the Jackery way overpriced.
In this DSLR setup, why don't we connect the mount and the Asiair with the ST-4 port? Does Asiair app make a digital tracking of the stars? How does the tracking accuracy compare with the setup which a mount is counted to the Asiair?
Really nice video. Is it possibl, to use the polar alignment feature with this setting (without a got mount)? The user helpdesk of ZWO told me so.
I have not done it, but I know others have.
@@astroventure2221 thank you for your response.
Very interesting video for beginners like me but I didn't understand if the images are saved on Asiair or in the camera
Once I have the target, I disconnect the ASIAIR leaving the camera to record the images.
@@astroventure2221 Thanks for the reply. you disconnect the asiair because you don't use the auroguide right? if you add a guide scope, the asiair is used for tracking and in this case where are the images saved? sorry for the questions but I got it today and I still have to get the hang of it.
@Sergio-ph9qo I disconnect the camera from the ASIAIR, but you can leave the mount connected for guiding.
I don't mind the questions. I do not monetize my videos. I do it for helping others learn.
@@astroventure2221 Thanks again, I'll gladly follow your videos because you're very clear
When you use this do you set you camra in bulb mode and use basically like a trigger trap?
Great question KingWoodJM. The camera is in bulb mode and exposure time is managed by the ASIAIR.
I have another question, The images captured are stored as fits files on the Asiair, from what I have seen ? unfortunately I cannot use those file types, does the Nikon camera also store the images as raw files, as I would want to use the NEFS for editing ?
Once I have the target, I disconnect the ASIAIR. When I'm using the ASIAIR for guiding, I'm not connected to the camera (just the guide camera). In both configurations, my camera is taking the images (intervalometer) and recording.
@@astroventure2221 Thanks for the info, you have been of great help, looking forward to more of your videos
I noticed you didn't hook up into the snap port, yet the Air still was able to take the picture? I thought the DSLR snap port on the Air needed to be connected to camera? So I could use a D850 with the Air Plus along with autoguiding with a 120mm guide cam for any length of exposure I need without using the snap port? What is a snap port for then if you can still take a picture with hooking it up? Thanks for your help in advance.
When the DSLR is connected to the ASIAIR it is not recording any pictures. It simply uses the camera to grab an image to plate solve. Once I am on target, I will get the autoguiding going and disconnect the USB to camera from the ASIAIR. Doing this returns control of the camera back to the camera controls. I then us my intervalometer to take pictures and the images are recorded on the camera. I have not explored using the ASIAR to take and record pictures. I hope this helps.
@@astroventure2221 thanks for the fast reply. I have a Go-To mount. I really want the Air for guiding support , dithering and PA accuracy. One would not be able to dither using this method though, right? Dithering would require the Air to use the camera? Would you know what kind of cable I need to connect a d850 to Air to enable the picture recording on Air? Thanks again for your time.
@@yervantparnagian5999 I'm sorry, I'm no more help on this. Let me know what you learn though.
Which camera port are you plugging the cord into? Remote Control Terminal? Mic? AV and USB? HDMI?
2:15 "mini USB 8-pin" located under the cover shown next to the mic. If you are working with a different model of camera, it will again be whatever type of USB is under that cover.
Clear skies and uneventful nights.
@@astroventure2221
Hey, thanks!
Does asi air plus work with Nikon z30?
The Z30 is NOT listed as a supported camera.
At the bottom of the page is a list of supported cameras. astronomy-imaging-camera.com/product/asiair-plus/
The sad thing is this only works with cameras fully supported by the ASIAir :(
Great point. What camera are you shooting?
@@astroventure2221 Olympus E-M1 and now OM System OM-1 😊
@@floriank looking up the supported cameras, it only seems to be Canon and Nikon.
@@astroventure2221 they need to support the camera output for manual shooting and dithering at least, already filed a request. That would work for any camera more or less. Maybe you can also add your voice to this 😊
@@floriank I can add my voice.
Very helpful! Thank you very much!
Happy to be of service.