Star Wars: The Fans Vs Disney

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  • čas přidán 27. 12. 2018
  • George Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney in 2012, the franchise has changed a lot since then and some say not for the better. Why have Star Wars Fans turned against Disney? Were they ever on board in the first place?

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  • @StarWarsOnly
    @StarWarsOnly  Před 4 lety +864

    We hit a Million views! Thanks to everyone who watched this it was my first of many Star Wars documentaries, sorry about the annoying music was simply a rookie mistake due to rushing this documentary but I promise the next one will be even better! May the force be with you my friends!

    • @Mario4days
      @Mario4days Před 4 lety +6

      I watched the video just after 1M views! And I really enjoyed it :D

    • @meltd47s17
      @meltd47s17 Před 4 lety +6

      Don’t worry it’s well put together.

    • @sergiohenrique2411
      @sergiohenrique2411 Před 4 lety +6

      ur "hardcore fans vs casual fans" thing kinda turns me off. sure some people r more vocal than others but in the end the split goes between fans and people ho never cared and saw one random movie. its an overal money grab this days and the "hardcore fans" that did introduce star wars to their kids and kept the fever alive r less and less interested. star wars was allways about entertainment and its getting less and less entertaining, both in movies and games.. facts..

    • @captainzack005
      @captainzack005 Před 4 lety +1

      @Jag5tarZ agreed, but the OG ones are Geat but the new ones are 50/50 there Great and also not so great

    • @rakor8914
      @rakor8914 Před 4 lety

      thnx for including SC reviews, u earned a sub

  • @michaelconnolly7408
    @michaelconnolly7408 Před 4 lety +3225

    Disney: "YOU TURNED THEM AGAINST ME!"
    Star Wars Fans: "You have done that yourself."

    • @cyberchild7018
      @cyberchild7018 Před 4 lety +108

      George Lucas: "you have done that yourself."

    • @jakephreel
      @jakephreel Před 4 lety +25

      @@cyberchild7018 honestly I wouldn't be surpised if +Michael Connolly is right in this context. They would blame the fans for them ruining the franchise

    • @TheClumsyChicken
      @TheClumsyChicken Před 4 lety +3

      Michael Connolly u serrated comment lmao u need more likes!

    • @cyberchild7018
      @cyberchild7018 Před 4 lety +7

      @@jakephreel I can't agree more, but I meant that Lucas was the one telling Disney that they're the ones.

    • @jubjub09222
      @jubjub09222 Před 4 lety +34

      George: "You were my brother Disney, your were suppose to help destroy the SJW's, not join them"
      Disney: "I HATE'CH YOU!"

  • @anakinskywalker3172
    @anakinskywalker3172 Před 4 lety +5382

    I don't like Disney, it's coarse.. and rough.. ruins everything..

    • @nickgriffin7710
      @nickgriffin7710 Před 4 lety +185

      Not like you
      *Looks at copies of all the Prequels and Originals*

    • @dude_8434
      @dude_8434 Před 4 lety +134

      Disney lost the high ground.

    • @Obi-Goat_Kenobi
      @Obi-Goat_Kenobi Před 4 lety +118

      Joe Scott and I still have the high ground. How civilized

    • @johnnycrash4892
      @johnnycrash4892 Před 4 lety +48

      Im sorry for what they did to your son

    • @michelangelo1600
      @michelangelo1600 Před 4 lety +33

      And it gets everywhere

  • @scremmy_draws
    @scremmy_draws Před 4 lety +1285

    Fans: We don’t like Rey
    Disney: You’re sexist and don’t like strong female characters
    Ahsoka, Leia, and Padme: hold my beer

    • @arftrooper44
      @arftrooper44 Před 4 lety +77

      More like "Am I a joke to you?"

    • @kitsuneoffacade9120
      @kitsuneoffacade9120 Před 4 lety +65

      eyubeon aayla secura, luminara unduli, bariss offee, asajj ventress,
      *boi*

    • @NRubric
      @NRubric Před 4 lety +51

      @@kitsuneoffacade9120
      Tenel Ka Djo, Jaina Solo, Mara Jade, Winter Celchu

    • @AsymmetricalAce
      @AsymmetricalAce Před 4 lety +11

      NRubric EU should be canon

    • @AsymmetricalAce
      @AsymmetricalAce Před 4 lety +5

      The Xenomorphian I agree

  • @cottereyre
    @cottereyre Před 4 lety +521

    Jedi: Fallen Order:
    Good
    Mandalorian:
    Good
    Clone Wars:
    Good
    Rise of Skywalker:
    ...
    We don't talk about that one.

    • @arftrooper44
      @arftrooper44 Před 4 lety +23

      "Rey is a Mary Sue"
      If these kids could read they'd be very upset with you!
      *points at KK, JJ Abrams, RIAN Johnson and SJW*

    • @exactlyloler61
      @exactlyloler61 Před 4 lety +12

      It was terrible, rushed, stupid, illogical and ruined the very cause the original and prequel trilogies exist.

    • @amihomophobicifihatemyself8966
      @amihomophobicifihatemyself8966 Před 4 lety +6

      TRoS relied too much on fan service to tug on our heart strings. I'll admit, I actually liked it on first viewing, but looking back on it, the story and overall payoff was not good

    • @oscarpineda9459
      @oscarpineda9459 Před 4 lety +1

      What about the prequels?
      I agree about the rise of Sky-Zombie

    • @ChromeWheelz1977
      @ChromeWheelz1977 Před 4 lety +3

      Jedi: Fallen Order sucked as far as I'm concerned. Ya, lets have a SW game that glitches you right out of the game, over and over, has so little combat that you may as well not have a lightsaber at all, with such terrible game mechanics that you end up throwing your controller out the window, in frustration because you can't do anything properly. Oh boy, where do I sign up for THAT beta? The fact is, they ignored what the fans wanted, which was a TRUE sequel to battlefront 2, and 1313. But noo, they had to cancel those. Hell, they even sued the makers of the KotOR update, killing any chance we had of getting that. They didn't care what we wanted, and when they DID try to give us something (they thought) we wanted (TROS), they failed miserably with that too.
      And TCW, they only made 1 season of that. They can hardly be credited with ANYTHING to do with that one, except giving us 1 season of a show that they realized they never should have cancelled in the first place. A better example would have been Rebels. It's not nearly as good as TCW, but it had it's charms. Personally, I only liked the first 2 seasons, then I was done with it.

  • @citogonzalez8177
    @citogonzalez8177 Před 4 lety +2291

    Rey: “I’m a skywalker”
    Fans: so it’s treason then

    • @LegioXXI
      @LegioXXI Před 4 lety +66

      WE are the Senate!

    • @generalj216
      @generalj216 Před 4 lety +42

      Cito Gonzalez the council will make its own mind who is a skywalker, not Kathleen Kennedy

    • @Say-ro4rq
      @Say-ro4rq Před 4 lety +6

      This comment made me laugh way to hard lol

    • @kaiser_Haux
      @kaiser_Haux Před 4 lety +18

      I love democracy

    • @feeler6670
      @feeler6670 Před 4 lety +13

      AAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHRRR! 🔃🔃🔃🔃

  • @digidressdress2363
    @digidressdress2363 Před 5 lety +5590

    How to ruin a franchise.
    1. Sell to Disney
    2. Sell to EA

    • @miguelb.655
      @miguelb.655 Před 5 lety +40

      1. In Cinemas
      2. PCs XBox PS.

    • @Storm-qw6ob
      @Storm-qw6ob Před 5 lety +135

      EA Battlefront 1 wasnt good, it was ok not good
      EA Battlefront 2 too overhyped, was not good at launch, great currentlly due to Dice fighting for it with adding new stuff all the time

    • @maxdavis897
      @maxdavis897 Před 5 lety +35

      Storm I love the old battlefront 2 that was my childhood man

    • @Storm-qw6ob
      @Storm-qw6ob Před 5 lety +1

      @@maxdavis897 k

    • @Storm-qw6ob
      @Storm-qw6ob Před 5 lety +2

      @@M9Jenko marvel wasnt sold to EA

  • @giraffeman326
    @giraffeman326 Před 4 lety +190

    2:39 “most of the diehard fans feared that this would be too much Star Wars, and that the films would be horrible”
    Well they weren’t wrong

  • @BoandDebbieMulder
    @BoandDebbieMulder Před 4 lety +338

    I'll NEVER forgive Disney for how they totally degraded and treated hero Luke Skywalker and completely ignored Anakin. Disney SW simply isn't Canon to me.

    • @Lopez03Eduardo.
      @Lopez03Eduardo. Před 3 lety +24

      Damn right as far I'm concerned star wars ended at six just like terminator ended at two

    • @reginald6451
      @reginald6451 Před 2 lety +5

      I also believe what you believe sir.

    • @Yaboi_Phantom
      @Yaboi_Phantom Před 2 lety +2

      My feelings exactly

    • @nerderonofficial
      @nerderonofficial Před 2 lety +4

      If rumors are to be believed, the whole sequel trilogy won't be cannon to Disney either if all goes to plan hehe >:)

    • @thomascattington1660
      @thomascattington1660 Před 2 lety +3

      Timothy Zahn wrote the Thrawn trilogy which is still better than the Fraud Awakens by a few million times.

  • @GiovanniPrince
    @GiovanniPrince Před 4 lety +1673

    "Rian Johnson, a relatively unknown name to Star Wars Fans" Unfortunately we know his name now.

    • @kennylee6499
      @kennylee6499 Před 4 lety +32

      GiovanniPrince too well

    • @KetsubanSolo
      @KetsubanSolo Před 4 lety +9

      I don't think he's a *bad* director but I do think he should've done a "Star Wars Story" ala Rogue One or Solo.

    • @landryprichard6778
      @landryprichard6778 Před 4 lety +22

      Ruin Johnson, Jar Jar Abrahms and Bad Reboot have fucked it all up.

    • @YourFavoriteCritic26
      @YourFavoriteCritic26 Před 4 lety +7

      Unfortunate to know the name of the director behind great films such as Brink and Looper? Shame :/

    • @KetsubanSolo
      @KetsubanSolo Před 4 lety +3

      @Vino I have hopes Knives Out will at least give him a Wes Anderson appeal (saw it a few days ago at a film festival. It was great), but like Wes before him, TLJ pretty much guarantees working on more independent projects in the near future.

  • @gwyn3219
    @gwyn3219 Před 4 lety +2093

    Star Wars fans: "I don't like Rey."
    Disney: _"oh wowwwwwww typical sexist Star Wars fans hating on strong female protagonists!1!!!"_
    The same Star Wars fans: *love Ahsoka Tano, Princess Leia, Bo Katan, Asajj Ventress, Padme, Hera Syndulla, and many other female characters the same as they love the male ones.

    • @CataciousAmogusevic
      @CataciousAmogusevic Před 4 lety +374

      Yeah, we don't hate female leads. We hate characters that don't have any effort behind them.

    • @gwyn3219
      @gwyn3219 Před 4 lety +71

      @@CataciousAmogusevic exactly

    • @blazingn86
      @blazingn86 Před 4 lety +89

      I got berated on Twitter for saying that exact same thing, and that Disney is forcing political opinions on Star Wars

    • @gwyn3219
      @gwyn3219 Před 4 lety +142

      @@blazingn86 yikes. Literally I'm positive most Star Wars fans don't mind female characters (in fact, characters like Ahsoka Tano or Princess Leia for example are some of the most popular characters in all of Star Wars) Disney is just calling us sexist to justify their inability to write decent plots and complex characters.

    • @chloerichter1911
      @chloerichter1911 Před 4 lety +57

      Honestly! Rey is a poorly written character that has a horrible character arc. She doesn't deserve to be in star wars, but of course whenever a man says that they are characterized as being sexist even though they just want good writing. NO ONE CARES IF THE MAIN CHARACTER IS FEMALE OR MALE IF THEY DON'T HAVE A GOOD CHARACTER ARC NO ONE WILL LIKE THEM. Well, except for people who want to please the left... People just want good stories!Stop trying to bring politics into it! We need more Star Wars like The Clone Wars. I rest my case.

  • @OneNidim
    @OneNidim Před 4 lety +122

    Kathleen: he is very important to the saga
    Mark hamil-literally Luke skywalker: WELL THATS GOOD TO HEAR

    • @Ma3dow
      @Ma3dow Před 3 lety +10

      I swear he gonna get assassinated by a Disney hired bounty hunter

    • @jonathanadams7219
      @jonathanadams7219 Před rokem +2

      When All of California is SUS..........

    • @qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn
      @qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn Před rokem

      @@jonathanadams7219 wha??

  • @loply9724
    @loply9724 Před 4 lety +105

    I remember watching the first two films of the sequels and thinking “You know, they aren’t the best, but you know, i’ll take it. Wasn’t expecting much since it’s coming from Disney.” Then when Rise of Skywalker came out and I had a friend come to me telling me he was about to spoil it against my wishes, but I would be grateful in the end. He told me Palpatine survived the 2nd death star and I kinda laugh and thought he was joking...

    • @hcaz5818
      @hcaz5818 Před 2 lety +3

      The original trailer for TRoS literally reveals Palpatine is back lols...

    • @codycoyote545
      @codycoyote545 Před 2 lety +1

      @ImOnIt4272 I watched TRoS for the Y-Wing

  • @3thosmusic22
    @3thosmusic22 Před 5 lety +894

    As Mark Hamil said “you need to think about the fans”

    • @marni432
      @marni432 Před 5 lety +21

      Mickey Mouse and his crew are only thinking about the credits. If they actually took some time to plan out the movie, it might not be as bad as it always turns out.

    • @kosmas173
      @kosmas173 Před 4 lety +5

      *Disney laughs*

    • @reddeaddude2187
      @reddeaddude2187 Před 4 lety +3

      DisnEAy: Lol, no

    • @Legoman775
      @Legoman775 Před 4 lety +3

      @@marni432 i bet Jaba the hut is behind this!

    • @Legoman775
      @Legoman775 Před 4 lety

      @@reddeaddude2187 clever girl...

  • @sk4rf991
    @sk4rf991 Před 4 lety +1905

    "The force is female" *Yoda becomes dissappointed in Rey for 800 more years*

    • @Journey_Awaits
      @Journey_Awaits Před 4 lety +23

      Female it is gay I am not

    • @qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm2643
      @qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm2643 Před 4 lety +131

      “A Mary Sue, you are. Well developed, you are not.”

    • @Elder74
      @Elder74 Před 4 lety +3

      The force is anything that becomes controversial.

    • @icecreamisyummy8490
      @icecreamisyummy8490 Před 4 lety +1

      SK4rf Rey has nothing to do about It, this is KK

    • @sk4rf991
      @sk4rf991 Před 4 lety +4

      @@icecreamisyummy8490 I know but it is kinda about star wars too so i dont see whats wrong with that

  • @lukeo6411
    @lukeo6411 Před 4 lety +110

    THE LAST JEDI WAS A GOOD MOVIE???!? Is that what I just heard? My poor ears, I don’t have enough insurance to fix the damage done to them.

    • @MoreAwsomeMetal
      @MoreAwsomeMetal Před 4 lety +3

      It was a bad Star Wars movie for sure. But a far better and creative one than the 2 giant turds made by JJ Abrahams...

    • @cuongquoc5877
      @cuongquoc5877 Před 3 lety

      @Mustiboi Salman There is a different between liking something and thinking that something is objectively good or not. I like alot of movies that are badly made and not into good movies like the Shining or Jaws

    • @eziospaghettiauditore8369
      @eziospaghettiauditore8369 Před 3 lety

      @@MoreAwsomeMetal that's objectively false. Last Jedi made Force Awakens worse by creating plot holes it also copied Empire to a T and had the most contrived scenes in the series
      I wanna see proof that Force Awakens is nearly as offensive as Last Jedi

    • @129das
      @129das Před 3 lety +4

      Here is the thing Many people were in denial that episode 8 was bad. Basically they were in stage one of grief, no way Disney could a bad Star Wars even no way Disney could make a movie this bad. That what was happening. I didn't help that the media is a bunch a payed sheels glorifying it.
      Anyone saying they liked The Last Jedi. Is in Denial(or still has rose tinted glasses on), A fucked Sheel, or just likes stuff other people hate.

    • @officialthomasjames
      @officialthomasjames Před 2 lety +1

      It is a good individual movie, bad middle movie of a trilogy. Rise of Skywalker is the only shit movie in the Sequels. The main issue is that they never had a plan and let each director do their own thing, a recipe for disaster.

  • @DumgiTV
    @DumgiTV Před 4 lety +93

    The last Jedi was a garbage of a movie.

    • @MoreAwsomeMetal
      @MoreAwsomeMetal Před 4 lety +7

      True. But TFA and especially TROS were the bottom of the pit. JJ Abrahams is a complete fraud in the cinema industry...

    • @Sergeant_Camacho
      @Sergeant_Camacho Před 3 lety +10

      @@MoreAwsomeMetal True, and remember: the whole Sequel Trilogy is garbage.

    • @Nigga.69
      @Nigga.69 Před 3 lety +11

      @@Sergeant_Camacho can we just agree that the sequels aren't part of star wars

    • @quickbinger1058
      @quickbinger1058 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Nigga.69 Yeah, we should just pretend the sequels dont exist and look forward to Favreu and Filoni, they will fix the franchise I assure you. Hope is a theme in Star Wars and is fans must have it so Star Wars may rise again into a good franchise, forget the sequels existed and remain positive for the future.

    • @TheDozin1
      @TheDozin1 Před 3 lety

      @@Nigga.69 absolutely!

  • @crunkalac
    @crunkalac Před 5 lety +3527

    Even Mark Hamill hated Last Jedi

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 Před 5 lety +66

      Sure, reality can be whatever you want it to be.

    • @Al_Thor
      @Al_Thor Před 5 lety +411

      @@Clay3613 that is the reality, he was constantly trying to tell people the movie wasn't going to be good.

    • @shayswogger5764
      @shayswogger5764 Před 5 lety +296

      Clay3613 i meann, watch any of his NUMEROUS interviews. you cannot tell me he liked it.

    • @ThatGuy76985
      @ThatGuy76985 Před 5 lety +218

      @@Clay3613 I think you're the one not living in reality bro. Go watch the many many interviews he had talking about how he didn't like the movie and what they did to Luke Skywalker.

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 Před 5 lety +42

      @@ThatGuy76985 Yes, because clickbait taken out of context is truly what Mark Hamill thinks.

  • @eras1066
    @eras1066 Před 4 lety +491

    "Rian Johnson received so much praise for his work on the film-"
    What!?
    "-From Kathleen Kennedy and others at Lucasfilm."
    Oh, gotcha.

    • @j-mshistorycorner6932
      @j-mshistorycorner6932 Před 4 lety +4

      Rian DID receive heaps of praise from most critics and audiences.

    • @eras1066
      @eras1066 Před 4 lety +17

      @@j-mshistorycorner6932
      Look, I don't wanna get into the conspiracy theory that Disney paid off critics to leave glowing reviews of the movie...
      But it's a helluva lot more plausible than Russian bots and trolls destroying the reputation of a great movie because it has women in it.
      There were millions of people who saw the movie. Roughly half of those who saw it thought it was good and gave no more thought to it.
      I can't find a Star Wars fan open to dialogue that doesn't think letting Rian get close to the script was a mistake, though.
      We could have had a great script to go with the fantastic visuals. The directing Rian did is top-notch if you mute the TV.

    • @j-mshistorycorner6932
      @j-mshistorycorner6932 Před 4 lety

      @@eras1066 OK, the Russian trolls thing does sound suspect. (Great username, by the way.)

    • @evileyegaming405
      @evileyegaming405 Před 4 lety +8

      @@eras1066 it's legit bruh I remember looking at ratings for the movie when it came out and they were in the low 20s from audience and then 50k reviews got deleted to bump up the rating. Same shit happened to captain marvel

    • @jackhoward8
      @jackhoward8 Před 4 lety

      It can be a good movie, if it has some connection with the previous movie. I personally think letting different directors handling the same trilogy is not a good move

  • @jackaboi1126
    @jackaboi1126 Před 4 lety +326

    Disney: *delays episode 8 to "make it better"*
    Fans after seeing it: *looks at Rian Johnson* "kill him, kill him now"

  • @cubancucumber
    @cubancucumber Před 4 lety +39

    The force has NO GENDER, it’s a mystic form of magic.

  • @pbyers9325
    @pbyers9325 Před 5 lety +545

    Nice synopsis, but you left out Disney attacking the fans who disliked TLJ, and Mark Hammill's months of dropping hints at his horror at working with Rian Johnson

    • @marceloabad8545
      @marceloabad8545 Před 5 lety +58

      he dropped hints since TFA that they were heading the hell direction

    • @JRut99
      @JRut99 Před 5 lety +6

      Is that Disney’s fault or Lucasfilms current management?

    • @marceloabad8545
      @marceloabad8545 Před 5 lety +11

      @@JRut99 Is Lucasfilms lack of character to protect its work from Disney. It's also Disney lack of vision and understanding of the franchise. Kennedy was to permissive with Bob Iger, she allowed him to treat Lucasfikm like it's Marvel Studios. Kennedy was in charge of chosing Jar Jar Abrams and Ruin Johnson, she was also not strong enough to protect Lucas involvement in the guidance of the new trilogy.
      At the end Bob Iger took the fault, and declared that "it was too much, too fast". Kennedy said "We didn't realize this was not Marvel".

    • @tyymclarenfan
      @tyymclarenfan Před 5 lety +15

      Nobody wants dysmay, as the stories are not align with the original 6 films, as they attacked the fandom and called light sabres, laser swords is unforgivable, as making a mockery of luke skywalkers whole brilliant films by George lucas? How to crash star wars into the floor FACT!!

    • @tyymclarenfan
      @tyymclarenfan Před 5 lety +4

      @@FirstnameLastname-us7mx absolutely true 👍

  • @favoritesage66
    @favoritesage66 Před 4 lety +659

    Disney needs to be stoped, they own 40% of the film industry atm
    thats wild

    • @bletheringfool
      @bletheringfool Před 4 lety +98

      And ironically Walt Disney himself fought against the studios for more independent producers back in the 50s

    • @d.r.9746
      @d.r.9746 Před 4 lety +33

      I wonder what Walt would think after seeing what a monster Disney has become... 😢

    • @CarloNassar
      @CarloNassar Před 4 lety +7

      I don't know. History and National Geographic are perhaps the two companies that Disney has a reason to sell but either way, they should've been stopped decades ago after spending more than 3 decades of going really cheap in the live-action department to the point where nobody even cares about most of their live-action movies before 2000. Do you guys even realize that?

    • @chadwick4517
      @chadwick4517 Před 4 lety +3

      Smolby You may just get your wish. Keep an eye on the possible but out of Disney by Apple. Google it. Was just very recently & yes it has alot to do with the virus, virtually no one is going to movie theaters and not very many were before Corona Virus. Disney is well aware of the hatred for there films and they're finally getting it. It also has to do with their purchase of 21 St century Fox for which they had to pay over 30 billion if not more for and really, As farcas lucrative franchises go that Disney could capitalise on, there just aren't many there, aside from the 2 Alien & Planet of the Apes who's last entries didn't even make back their production costs so, it's for real & I hope it happens because if you thought what they did to star Wars was bad, wait until you see a Disney produced Alien film

    • @CarloNassar
      @CarloNassar Před 4 lety +1

      @@chadwick4517
      Most Alien movies got bad ratings from what I gathered and it's clear that people don't want anymore Alien films anyway. Plus, it's not like there's a possibility of toning down the violence because they *know* they'll get lots of hate if they do and the latest Predator movie remained R-rated. Case in point, people will want Disney to go R-rated because they especially expect thatt in Alien.

  • @Friedbeanbag
    @Friedbeanbag Před 4 lety +68

    Kathleen Kennedy says that the old starwars was mostly men but what about female leads like Princess Leia and Padmé Amidala

    • @animationunlimited2958
      @animationunlimited2958 Před rokem +2

      The original trilogy mostly focused on Luce Skywalker although the sequel trilogy was going to focus on Princess Leia.

  • @Cornelius52
    @Cornelius52 Před 4 lety +25

    "No one could live up to George, not even George."
    - Happy Hogan, Far From Home

  • @user-rh1jo1yy9e
    @user-rh1jo1yy9e Před 4 lety +2464

    If we hated the sequels because Rey was a girl, we wouldn't have boycotted Solo

    • @theajayyy
      @theajayyy Před 4 lety +140

      George originally planned to have a female lead for the sequels too.

    • @user-rh1jo1yy9e
      @user-rh1jo1yy9e Před 4 lety +348

      @@theajayyy - yeah, and she may have had an actual Character too.

    • @danielb.3515
      @danielb.3515 Před 4 lety +18

      Weston Robinson can’t we just have one male lead and one female lead

    • @user-rh1jo1yy9e
      @user-rh1jo1yy9e Před 4 lety +297

      @@danielb.3515 - can't we just have good movies regardless of the sex of the leads?

    • @danielb.3515
      @danielb.3515 Před 4 lety +5

      Weston Robinson but if there was then maybe we could find some common ground

  • @nimarus3118
    @nimarus3118 Před 5 lety +3275

    Disney: If it isn't in the original films, it's no longer canon.
    Fans: Everything Disney Star Wars is not canon.

    • @JakaVerdnik
      @JakaVerdnik Před 5 lety +212

      Fans matter more, so we win ;)

    • @wafflestoast5228
      @wafflestoast5228 Před 5 lety +92

      Maybe the problem is that the people in charge of the new star wars movies and games are prequel haters.

    • @sword4005
      @sword4005 Před 5 lety +115

      @@wafflestoast5228 their not prequel haters, there just star wars haters

    • @synchc
      @synchc Před 5 lety +19

      @@wafflestoast5228 More likely the problem is that they weren't. At the time I would've called the prequels diabolical but that was fifteen years before I found out what the devil was _truly_ capable of.
      The prequels were bad films, atrocious star wars films.

    • @joelcraig9803
      @joelcraig9803 Před 5 lety +4

      No one paid me any money to except their movies.

  • @jpgamez1404
    @jpgamez1404 Před 3 lety +34

    i honestly really dislike how they have made star wars into more of a confusing comedy than an actual serious and full franchise

  • @zulfikarpane1672
    @zulfikarpane1672 Před 4 lety +19

    You know its bad when a fan makes a 50 minute documentary how you ruined a series

  • @Canalbiruta
    @Canalbiruta Před 4 lety +1925

    That "force is female" shirt is everything wrong with disney's star wars in one image.

    • @finkamain1621
      @finkamain1621 Před 4 lety +174

      Yup, and we're all men so therefore we hate Rey because she's a woman... Apparently

    • @mneedes2
      @mneedes2 Před 4 lety +88

      "Force is an unlikable female"

    • @iansmith6457
      @iansmith6457 Před 4 lety +40

      The Force is Female shirts had nothing to do with Star Wars. They were a Nike promotion that sounds Star Warsy. Then KK wore one and everyone lost it. Calm down.

    • @Kingsman4101
      @Kingsman4101 Před 4 lety +63

      @@iansmith6457 Cool story bro

    • @DooTSweeT
      @DooTSweeT Před 4 lety +16

      @Comrade Gulag of OurTube its not that, its the horrible writing in rey’s character. And how Disney’s SW makes her such a Mary Sue

  • @neoblakkrstal9865
    @neoblakkrstal9865 Před 4 lety +1518

    The fans did not turn on Star Wars, the fans turned on Disney, and their version of Star Wars. They destroyed it.

    • @YourFavoriteCritic26
      @YourFavoriteCritic26 Před 4 lety +13

      THIS COMMENT! WOW! Spoken like a true philosopher 10/10 congrats :)

    • @reno.rodolfo3089
      @reno.rodolfo3089 Před 4 lety +23

      the fans turned on Star Wars and George Lucas with prequels since that

    • @youseeidontcare9084
      @youseeidontcare9084 Před 4 lety +2

      Your my friend are now the best person

    • @fatpurp4041
      @fatpurp4041 Před 4 lety +18

      Yes, to me Star wars never failed me eve the prequels, but since the Evil Mouse took over Star wars has been going down a downward spiral.

    • @manuelkong10
      @manuelkong10 Před 4 lety

      AGREED Michael

  • @gamingendorsement9065
    @gamingendorsement9065 Před 4 lety +10

    *Disney* “We need to move away from the Skywalker family.”
    *also Disney* Rey Skywalker

  • @samelge9311
    @samelge9311 Před 4 lety +10

    If there is anything you need to learn, it’s that if you ever own a really successful film company, don’t sell it to Disney. They will infamously screw it up.

  • @nochill7884
    @nochill7884 Před 4 lety +874

    I WOULD HAVE PREFERED NO SEQUALS OVER THIS.

    • @Richard_Nickerson
      @Richard_Nickerson Před 4 lety +16

      Preferred*
      Sequels*

    • @UltimaKeyMaster
      @UltimaKeyMaster Před 4 lety +16

      The funny thing is we don't need the Sequels for pretty much anything good in the series lately except for one neat little twist to start the later part of Fallen Order.

    • @hazzboytv6568
      @hazzboytv6568 Před 4 lety +33

      I personally never wanted a sequel trilogy, ROTJ ended the saga perfectly

    • @kevingonzales1639
      @kevingonzales1639 Před 4 lety

      NoChill you can go watch Deputy dog

    • @benaniokabi
      @benaniokabi Před 4 lety

      you see, the fans are what's wrong with star wars, not the movies the fandom. people can't accept or appreciate these new films. if fans didn't drive Lucas up the wall he would have made the sequel trilogy. we made the death bed now we need to sleep in it.

  • @WileyBoxx
    @WileyBoxx Před 5 lety +293

    I didn't even intentionally boycott Solo, I just forgot it existed. And I'm a huge Star Wars fan.

    • @sojoNIN
      @sojoNIN Před 5 lety +9

      well it wasn't Star Wars so....

    • @crazyluigi6664
      @crazyluigi6664 Před 5 lety +3

      Honestly, I didn't forget. I just have some other things to deal with at the time instead.

    • @TheGameCapsule
      @TheGameCapsule Před 5 lety +18

      I didnt see it because Solo is Harrison Ford, not some rando.

    • @garywood97
      @garywood97 Před 5 lety +5

      Exactly. You don't need an actual boycott. There's so much entertainment nowadays, you just need a lack of enthusiasm and that'll do it.

    • @ianimpossible
      @ianimpossible Před 5 lety

      @bla blahblah lol oh he could be an awesome actor but naw, not down for them to write him like that and then be portrayed in such a way...just like what's happened with several of the other characters...it's a darn shame.

  • @John-xt3cd
    @John-xt3cd Před 4 lety +15

    It's so sad that the fandom I love is dying under Kathleen Kennedy.

  • @karenhall4645
    @karenhall4645 Před rokem +5

    Disney was one of the studios that turned down Star Wars back when George Lucas was trying to make the first one. Now that its a success they want it, and in a strange twist it has not been successful for them. Maybe they shouldn't have trashed George's outline for the sequels and ignored the rest of the EU stories and projects.

  • @VaunShiz
    @VaunShiz Před 4 lety +1179

    Episode 9 failed, Fire Kathleen Kennedy

    • @noahowenst
      @noahowenst Před 4 lety +8

      itwS okaY

    • @dragonflamefilms5401
      @dragonflamefilms5401 Před 4 lety +40

      @@noahowenst say that to its box office results

    • @noahowenst
      @noahowenst Před 4 lety +3

      dark destoroyah metal wolf 468 yeah you’re right

    • @theotherbeatle707
      @theotherbeatle707 Před 4 lety +45

      @@dragonflamefilms5401 I saw it too and I think it is shit. I guarantee you all that money would go back if refunds were given

    • @dragonflamefilms5401
      @dragonflamefilms5401 Před 4 lety +5

      @@theotherbeatle707 Yep but Disney would never give up their money why...CAUSE THEY CARE ABOUT

  • @RodHammett95
    @RodHammett95 Před 5 lety +379

    Disney: You turned the fandom against me!
    Fans: you have done that yourself.

    • @2ndairborneguy790
      @2ndairborneguy790 Před 5 lety +20

      When you're happy with Disney that they're bringing Clone Wars back even though they were the ones that took it from you in the first place.
      "You have allowed this dark lord to twist your mind."

    • @hachemaly5945
      @hachemaly5945 Před 4 lety +4

      REVENGE OF THE FANS

    • @f4fphantomii468
      @f4fphantomii468 Před 4 lety

      STOLEN! you stole the comment from someone on the same video, with 274 likes. Just scroll down and you'll find the OC

    • @Krystalmyth
      @Krystalmyth Před 4 lety +3

      @Overkill XJ LOL "Where did we go wrong."
      These are sociopathic narcissists. They don't think this way.

    • @Krystalmyth
      @Krystalmyth Před 4 lety +1

      @Overkill XJ LOL "Where did we go wrong."
      These are sociopathic narcissists. They don't think this way.

  • @BP-dn9nv
    @BP-dn9nv Před 3 lety +34

    The level of mismanagement of Star Wars under Disney has been so bad it's kind of hard to believe. This is the biggest franchise in the history of pop culture and they decided it would be a good idea to go into a new trilogy with no plan and the audacity to pull the plug on the old extended universe.

  • @Gman0440-Gamer
    @Gman0440-Gamer Před 4 lety +12

    Me watching Disney Star Wars: “YOU’RE BREAKING MY HEART!”
    Disney: “LIAR!!”

    • @jonathanadams7219
      @jonathanadams7219 Před rokem

      Prequel-Original Saga: I Hear, a new apprentice (Disney), you have, California, or should I call you.......Darth Calius?
      California: Prequel-Original Saga, You Survived.................
      Prequel-Original Saga: Surprised?
      California: Your Arrogance BLINDS You, Prequel-Original Saga. Now, you will experience the full power of The Dark Side!

  • @TiberianFiend
    @TiberianFiend Před 5 lety +417

    "[D&D] were certainly talented"
    Oh, oh... that claim didn't age well...

    • @LukeAMitchell
      @LukeAMitchell Před 5 lety +15

      Honestly shitting myself for the D&D and Johnson trilogy 🙈

    • @electricdreams8237
      @electricdreams8237 Před 5 lety +21

      Well Kennedy selected them. What did you expect?
      That woman certainly knows how to recognize talent...

    • @KneelB4Bacon
      @KneelB4Bacon Před 5 lety +26

      @@electricdreams8237 I hope nobody tells her that D&D are MEN.

    • @Hopesedge
      @Hopesedge Před 5 lety +4

      D&D are talented, they directed all of GoT after all, it's just that after they got word that Disney were offering that sweet sweet cash they peace'd out of GoT and dropped the series, that's why the last 2 seasons are rushed beyond belief, they wanted to get started on the Star Wars money boat as soon as possible. They're not bad writers or directors, they're bad people.

    • @mariusmglestue1234
      @mariusmglestue1234 Před 5 lety +27

      Hopesedge No, GOT went downhill after D&D ran out of source material.

  • @Taojas
    @Taojas Před 5 lety +784

    “Did you ever hear the tragedy of The Last Jedi? I thought not. It's not a story George would tell you. It's a Rian legend. The Last Jedi was a dark piece of political and cultural subversion, so powerful and so wise it thought it could use the Franchise to influence the fandom to create everlasting riches… It had such knowledge of the dark side that it could even make the iconic characters they so cared about easily die. The dark, subversive side of the Franchise is a pathway to many narratives some consider to be unnatural. It became so powerfully hated … the only thing it was afraid of was losing money, which eventually, of course, Solo did. Unfortunately, George gave his apprentice everything he created, and then his apprentice killed it in his sleep. Ironic. George spent 40 years breeding a Golden Goose then sold it to a butcher.”

  • @guybarzilay5748
    @guybarzilay5748 Před 3 lety +13

    Star Wars Fans: "​you were the chosen one, it was said you would complete the saga, no leave it for darkness"
    George Lucas: "you hated me!"

  • @GEEKFREAK01
    @GEEKFREAK01 Před 2 lety +9

    Rey: I'm a Skywalker now
    The fanbase: "Skywalker or not, you must realize you are doomed."

  • @kinkymustard2301
    @kinkymustard2301 Před 5 lety +300

    Disney: You turned the fans against me!
    Lucas: You did that yourself, Disney!

    • @dagger1jmw
      @dagger1jmw Před 5 lety +30

      Lucas: it’s over Disney everyone hates you
      Disney: you underestimate my film making power
      Lucas: don’t try it

    • @MrChristofDracul
      @MrChristofDracul Před 5 lety +2

      @DejaVoodooDoll Nah Disney/Lucas films won't have to deal with its fans anymore. They will spend their money elsewhere and Star Wars will end probably for at least 10 years after episode 9. Bob Igerman has already said after 9 they are not making anymore for a while. So us fans will probably not get to invested in the franchise anymore. I for one will be waiting until episode 9 hits Redbox. Got better more important shit to do with my time and money instead of giving it to a company that does not like the fanbase of the property it bought.

    • @lewis7607
      @lewis7607 Před 5 lety +1

      @@MrChristofDracul all good things come to an end.

    • @dumitrulangham1721
      @dumitrulangham1721 Před 5 lety +1

      KinkyMustard 😅😅😅😅😅👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • @dumitrulangham1721
      @dumitrulangham1721 Před 5 lety +1

      Lewis I agree with you my friend its over 40 years old it dam good just sad it not going with a blaze of glory

  • @nostalgiaworks5999
    @nostalgiaworks5999 Před 5 lety +1574

    I'm afraid the boycott will be quite operational when Episode 9 arrives.

    • @mariusmglestue1234
      @mariusmglestue1234 Před 5 lety +159

      Nostalgia Works
      Disney: you underestimate my powers!
      The fans: Don’t try it!

    • @mariusmglestue1234
      @mariusmglestue1234 Před 5 lety +127

      Luke Huizenga JJs only talent is nostalgia-bait and plagiarism.

    • @aidankelly9445
      @aidankelly9445 Před 5 lety +36

      Disney : *Releases Sequels*
      Fans : Brave, But foolish..

    • @Feyser1970
      @Feyser1970 Před 5 lety +47

      @@FirstnameLastname-us7mx shut the fuck up

    • @hyperjohn6627
      @hyperjohn6627 Před 5 lety +24

      I'm boycotting too, @Nostalgia Works

  • @TheNeptu
    @TheNeptu Před 3 lety +8

    NOT A SINGLE REAL FAN LIKES THE NEW TRILOGY PERIOD! 😒

  • @Yellowsnow69420
    @Yellowsnow69420 Před 3 lety +6

    “The Force is Female” “Lando is pan-sexual”...wtf is wrong with these people?

    • @AbsoluteAbsurd
      @AbsoluteAbsurd Před rokem +1

      Yea i hate how pretentious they make everything, even as lgbt i dont fucking care about anyones preferences i just want a good story worth watching.

  • @samwisethebrave3943
    @samwisethebrave3943 Před 4 lety +555

    "D&D are good writers." said no one after season 8 GOT.

    • @invisiblehand13
      @invisiblehand13 Před 4 lety +2

      yep.

    • @bruhmieter5688
      @bruhmieter5688 Před 4 lety +6

      The only problem was that it was rushed which wasn't it's fault. No the ceo of disney didn't write the sequels Lucasfilm did. Everyone was gonna hate the sequels they literally said before they made them its gonna suck and that's final.

    • @NuclearNuke41
      @NuclearNuke41 Před 4 lety

      "D and D", and "GOT" Writers? Speak English please.

    • @thebossmana
      @thebossmana Před 4 lety +19

      @@NuclearNuke41 because you don't know the terminology doesn't mean they aren't speaking English

    • @NuclearNuke41
      @NuclearNuke41 Před 4 lety

      @@thebossmana I know they are acronyms, but how do I know they are English acronyms? She also expects everyone to know what they are too.

  • @theoceancraft5407
    @theoceancraft5407 Před 5 lety +481

    Disney executed order 66 by claiming the Vader fan film

    • @Banana_Zach
      @Banana_Zach Před 5 lety +19

      they gave it back, but it is up to people whether they forgive or not

    • @JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw
      @JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw Před 5 lety +15

      @@Banana_Zach did they really? Surprised the greedy corporation did not double down on "man-babies" 🤣

    • @conniee.
      @conniee. Před 5 lety +15

      To me, they executed Order 66 with TLJ, TFA was just to hook us and make money at the theaters for their next project so they could do the deed with TLJ, imo.🤢 Well, WE have "the high ground" now. 😠 So, they're gonna keep KK for another 3 yrs. huh? 🤦🏾‍♀️ Well, that'll be another 3 yrs. of money loses then. 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾🤣🤣🤣

    • @CatBoxGMZ
      @CatBoxGMZ Před 5 lety

      WillFanofMany ya, Disney stepped in and said like undo what you have done.

    • @curtiskretzer8898
      @curtiskretzer8898 Před 4 lety

      Vader goes to anger management?!😹

  • @adr7379
    @adr7379 Před 3 lety +9

    George Lucas should’ve never sold it.

  • @davidschultz9663
    @davidschultz9663 Před 3 lety +3

    This documentary needs a sequel as the war between Disney vs fans has went to a whole new level

  • @MetalSandman999
    @MetalSandman999 Před 5 lety +267

    Star Wars producers: "We will not be digitally recreate Princess Leia."
    In other words, they will definitely digitally recreate Leia...

    • @fortyfour1654
      @fortyfour1654 Před 5 lety +32

      Subvert your expectations!

    • @Witshyperbass
      @Witshyperbass Před 5 lety +6

      @@FirstnameLastname-us7mx they did, haven"t you seen the Episode 9 teaser? Rey hugs CGI Leia at around 1:34 timestamp

    • @markpugh6808
      @markpugh6808 Před 4 lety +1

      And they didn't just used deleted scenes from Force Awakens

    • @shogun2215
      @shogun2215 Před 4 lety +1

      They've done it once.
      They'll do it again.
      After all, they do enjoy 'Subverting our Expectations' (To sell toys)

    • @SirBlackReeds
      @SirBlackReeds Před 4 lety

      Well, they did use a CGI Leia in Rogue One.

  • @blazingn86
    @blazingn86 Před 4 lety +677

    Kathleen Kennedy has completely ruined star wars

    • @chineserocks77
      @chineserocks77 Před 4 lety +19

      100%

    • @ducktape2218
      @ducktape2218 Před 4 lety +14

      Kathleen Kennedys didn't ruin star wars she was only sucking Disneys dick as all she is a puppet.

    • @channelsunnamed1202
      @channelsunnamed1202 Před 4 lety +6

      Jaiw, Disney has become her puppet now... no I’m not happy about it.

    • @untouchedghost9429
      @untouchedghost9429 Před 4 lety +10

      Disney reminds me of the CCP in China...😂😂😂 they think they knew what the public wanted but instead they just killed it without a care in the world but trying to bring in the money and now no one believes them anymore so it’s gonna be hard to do business in the future...it’s only the brainwashed die hard Star Wars fans that think anything after the force awakens film is good (which it wasn’t that good to be fair anyway but I was excited to see what they had to offer!) and now all I’m thinking to myself is that I don’t want to hand over my money to them anymore with their shit products....it’s such a shame to the fans and will never be the same again 😔 RIP Star Wars

    • @ducktape2218
      @ducktape2218 Před 4 lety +5

      Rip Lucasfilms you make some good shit but its over now sad

  • @djedishadowslayer2076
    @djedishadowslayer2076 Před 4 lety +25

    You have to keep in mind that all of this drama started with the judgmental stupidity of the "fans" in rejecting Lucas's original story plans in the first place, in response to which he gave up and sold it. The "fans" are directly responsible for this. If they didn't arrogantly think they knew better what Star Wars should be than the creator himself, we wouldn't be in this position.
    I do think that Lucas could have done a better job in handling it by sharing the actual history and spiritual principles behind Star Wars and what he was trying to teach with the last trilogy, as I've been thinking about doing with my own CZcams presence, but that doesn't excuse the "fans" from being self-absorbed arrogant idiots about it.
    The bottom line is: this was Lucas's story and he has a right to tell it how he chooses. In general, movie fans are way too rigid and judgmental about movies and stories, and way too ignorant of how much work and passion goes into creating a good story. The disrespect was shameful, and I think the supposed fans who didn't trust his vision and proven storytelling abilities owe him an apology.

    • @zippymufo9765
      @zippymufo9765 Před rokem +2

      I disagree about Luca's ability to handle any story execution anymore, but I agree that it's ridiculous that fandom has this collective amnesia about how they trashed Lucas just as badly as they now trash Disney.

    • @djedishadowslayer2076
      @djedishadowslayer2076 Před rokem

      @@zippymufo9765 Anymore? He stopped making public films years ago. We don't know what he's capable of anymore, though some of us know that Filoni and Favreau are consulting with him and doing their best to follow his original vision as well as they can with someone else holding their leash.

  • @nicolaschannel8787
    @nicolaschannel8787 Před 2 lety +4

    We did not turned against star wars
    Star wars turned against us

  • @ryanchrencik601
    @ryanchrencik601 Před 4 lety +1549

    I still don't get the hate on the prequels. I loved them, always will.

    • @DH-fu7bx
      @DH-fu7bx Před 4 lety +146

      They weren’t great but at least the contributed to the lore.

    • @ryanchrencik601
      @ryanchrencik601 Před 4 lety +55

      @@DH-fu7bx to each their own✌

    • @socialwarsmiejercito5608
      @socialwarsmiejercito5608 Před 4 lety +36

      Attack of the Clones had some issues

    • @ryanchrencik601
      @ryanchrencik601 Před 4 lety +84

      @derajalen I've never had a problem with Jar Jar or little Anakin, but I understand why others do. All that other stuff, I agree!

    • @sharpsvilleBill
      @sharpsvilleBill Před 4 lety +14

      One name: Jar Jar Binks...

  • @hoesmad4099
    @hoesmad4099 Před 4 lety +409

    The Expanded universe is still canon in my eyes

    • @rseiko9411
      @rseiko9411 Před 4 lety +37

      And forever it will be canon

    • @cody_hsu
      @cody_hsu Před 4 lety +38

      Yeah disney canon is not canon for me

    • @kennethferland5579
      @kennethferland5579 Před 4 lety +32

      It is more canonical then anything Disney makes because it's narratives were 'approved' by George Lucas. Thus they have more connection to the original creator and THAT is what defines cannon. People confuse canon with continuity, the former is defined by WHO made it, the later is a set of fictional history that is being used for derivative work.

    • @wadestilwell4228
      @wadestilwell4228 Před 4 lety +5

      Thesnaccattackishere hell yeah. I’ve read just over a hundred Star Wars novels and will not be told they didn’t happen

    • @Parbruek
      @Parbruek Před 4 lety +8

      The Expanded Universe is definitely more canon than Disney's additions.

  • @CaptnNimor
    @CaptnNimor Před 4 lety +6

    Wow I just relieved several years of emotions and frustrations in under an hour. Great job Dude!

  • @michaeleansan2730
    @michaeleansan2730 Před rokem +5

    Have you ever heard the tragedy of Star Wars?

  • @thomaswatt2147
    @thomaswatt2147 Před 4 lety +491

    Remember Gorge lucas probably sold star wars to Disney because of all of the hate on him after the prequles

    • @DarkAngelEU
      @DarkAngelEU Před 4 lety +104

      Fans really got what they deserved.

    • @wolflord8117
      @wolflord8117 Před 4 lety +75

      Its funny now that a crowd of people can apreciate the phantom menace now. I never hated any of the films when they came out when i was young. I thought this was pretty cool stuff! I loved thar robot with the one eye!

    • @southdakotan5711
      @southdakotan5711 Před 4 lety +69

      I loved the Prequels. I never ever understood the hate on them.

    • @wolflord8117
      @wolflord8117 Před 4 lety +19

      @@southdakotan5711 same man, same

    • @silvia-90_
      @silvia-90_ Před 4 lety +2

      Is there an interview or something he said about this? I'd really like to know.

  • @OppenedDark
    @OppenedDark Před 4 lety +832

    Everyone hated on the prequels and now look where that got us. Go back and watch the prequels and you'll see they don't deserve half the criticism they got.

    • @Jambe.
      @Jambe. Před 4 lety +154

      The fans who were butthurt about how bad the prequels were are the reason George sold Lucasfilm to Disney. We can thank them for fuking Star Wars in the first place.

    • @bastis3439
      @bastis3439 Před 4 lety +55

      I still don't like ep1, the other two however are pretty enjoyable, despite the clumsy dialogues...

    • @FoamingPipeSnakes
      @FoamingPipeSnakes Před 4 lety +17

      Prequels bad sequels bad.

    • @benwhelband7220
      @benwhelband7220 Před 4 lety +20

      Prequels are still bad though

    • @sprodersprack4257
      @sprodersprack4257 Před 4 lety +17

      Keep whining on about how the Prequels are perfect movies and how you "Never understood the hate they got" because you were a kid.

  • @blossomwolf2188
    @blossomwolf2188 Před 4 lety +18

    watching this in the future where ep nine happened already... realizing the mandalorian is pretty much the only thing we have left right now.

  • @sanchezspoofs8457
    @sanchezspoofs8457 Před 3 lety +5

    I remember being so hyped for ep 7 before and after I walked out of the theatre.
    No Star Wars film has given me that feeling yet

  • @NikkiMKarLen
    @NikkiMKarLen Před 5 lety +141

    Didn't notice this is almost an hour long when I clicked on it.
    I regret nothing.

  • @Souledge5
    @Souledge5 Před 5 lety +655

    Not to mention the 50.000 plotholes that completely break any continuity in TLJ. Nothing in this movie holds itself to any established rules. I was suprised Frodo didn't show up

    • @YourDadYoda
      @YourDadYoda Před 5 lety +4

      SoulSc0rcher I recommend watching the CinemaWins video on TLJ.

    • @emperormouse5487
      @emperormouse5487 Před 5 lety +6

      STFU about TLJ already, it was a good movie. A lot of people think so, no need to jump on the band wagon

    • @Souledge5
      @Souledge5 Před 5 lety +61

      You can like it as much as you want. All the more power to you. It's still a bad movie that makes no sense and seeing how you know about the "bandwagon", then you also know the solid arguments being made for it's massive gaping holes and nonsensical story. I'll shut up about it the moment people actually acknowledge it's bad, but they still like it. There's movies that are bad that I like as well. I'm not gonna pretend they're great movies tho.

    • @emperormouse5487
      @emperormouse5487 Před 5 lety +8

      @@Souledge5 Except all the critics seemed to like it just fine....but not the ultra toxic fan base apparently. Let me guess, Disney bought all those reviews right? How about its score on cinemascore? You know the review site which asks people to rate the movie right when the leave the theater on opening day...yeah sitting at a solid "A". It has 91 percent on rotten tomatoes and 85 on metacritic (which averages all critic scores). You know the first week before all this toxic crap flooded the internet, TLJ had phenomenal user reviews as well. When I went, (on the 3rd day it was out), people clapped at the end. So don't give me that bullshit. People stopped enjoying the movie cause they went into it expecting to hate it. Idk if you know who Ben Shapiro is, but he is known for being a fairly impartial judge of pretty much anything. He didn't like TLJ, yet was able to come up with so many positive aspects of the film. However, every comment I see is like yours- over-dramatic, bandwagon on the hate train BULLSHIT. Frankly its easily one of the better star wars movies, especially when you consider Rian Johnson had to write this movie after that dumpster first, hot pile of garbage that was TFA. Haha and if you don't think EVERY single star wars movie has gaping plot holes (and some way worse than TLJ) then you are deluded.

    • @rickbeniers667
      @rickbeniers667 Před 5 lety +50

      @@emperormouse5487 it was not, TLJ broke star wars in many places(bending/tearing the established rules of the universe), TLJ didn't answer anything about The force awakens and basically didn't follow certain rules for movie making. TLJ is/was a bad movie, it's a simple fact.

  • @simenpt9952
    @simenpt9952 Před 4 lety +8

    When i saw the title to the rise of skywalker i was so excited will anakin come back or luke i couldnt wait and then i saw that nobody rised i was so confused and disapointed

  • @Riddick00001
    @Riddick00001 Před 4 lety +7

    Its the Palpatine saga now...smh

  • @ClassicTrialsChannel
    @ClassicTrialsChannel Před 4 lety +161

    Kathleen Kennedy has no idea about Starwars and should have never been the lead person.

    • @TheBigEmstos
      @TheBigEmstos Před 4 lety +20

      Just another example of a female getting an undeserved job on account of being female just so a mega corporation can appeal to their SJW audience for some reason. Also she can't be fired for her quite frankly, disgustingly offensive incompetence, because that would be sexist.

    • @protogensvisiontimelost254
      @protogensvisiontimelost254 Před 4 lety +4

      @@TheBigEmstos Fucking fire her or she's gonna be taken care of in uncivilized means.

    • @sprodersprack4257
      @sprodersprack4257 Před 4 lety

      @@protogensvisiontimelost254 What's your problem?

    • @protogensvisiontimelost254
      @protogensvisiontimelost254 Před 4 lety +6

      @@sprodersprack4257 She fucking sucks.

    • @liekekenobi
      @liekekenobi Před 4 lety

      Classic Trials Channel AND THATS A FACT

  • @TheSuvW
    @TheSuvW Před 4 lety +368

    Well wasn't this just DEPRESSING to watch.

    • @razkable
      @razkable Před 4 lety +7

      mr. plinkett: jj aka jar jar mystery box abbrams is the worst thing to happen to star wars since the birth of my son

    • @razkable
      @razkable Před 4 lety +3

      I wonder if that poor guy who said he watched episode 3 at the same spot he is watching episode 7 at 10 years later with his sons after missing one of their births gave up on the franchise after episode 8...cause good god...poor dude..in one way you feel bad cause its just pure joy and hope and excitement and I hope he wasn't let down but in another way its kinda funny cause while loyalty matters its why we don't get better quality cause these media people know idiots will eat up anything with the name brand on it even if its low quality sadly and make as much money as they want off these fools without proving the right service and its an endless loop

    • @mikepaul2680
      @mikepaul2680 Před 4 lety

      @ThesuvW NO YOU

    • @theo55645
      @theo55645 Před 4 lety

      Yep

    • @Awesomereach94
      @Awesomereach94 Před 4 lety +2

      That’s for sure, it killed me to rewatch Disney destroying the EU

  • @2tone492
    @2tone492 Před 4 lety +3

    I would of preferred movies based from an old era like when Darth Bane, Darth Nihilus, or Darth Revan was around over the new trilogy

  • @kevmasengale6903
    @kevmasengale6903 Před 4 lety +5

    Why am I putting myself through this again? 😭😭

  • @Theosyion
    @Theosyion Před 4 lety +322

    Me when I find out clone wars is on Disney+ :
    *YO HO YO HO A PIRATES LIFE FOR ME*

    • @CounterClaws
      @CounterClaws Před 4 lety +38

      Ahoy! I too will raise the ol' Jolly Roger and plunder episodes!

    • @rabbitsurvivor1896
      @rabbitsurvivor1896 Před 4 lety +10

      You are A PIRATE!

    • @fanofgodjimindiva2497
      @fanofgodjimindiva2497 Před 4 lety +3

      Not me matey, The Last Jedi made me despise Star Wars so much I don't even bother to pirate their stuff anymore

    • @timburm8847
      @timburm8847 Před 4 lety +6

      All you ought remember this as the day you ALMOST caught captain jack sparrow

    • @timburm8847
      @timburm8847 Před 4 lety +1

      Ultimate Heresy man ye battle stations

  • @andrewpytko2938
    @andrewpytko2938 Před 5 lety +5816

    What's wrong with giving fans what they want?

    • @jerodbrown7339
      @jerodbrown7339 Před 5 lety +333

      Andrew Pytko I suppose it makes us entitled or something? Man, if they had only handled things with the fans better....

    • @spiritofzen7022
      @spiritofzen7022 Před 5 lety +61

      Andrew Pytko because the problem is they’re not ☹️

    • @RaikenXion
      @RaikenXion Před 5 lety +167

      The thing is us fans didnt want EVERYTHING catered to us when it came to this sequel trilogy. Just one thing Disney could have done for us, treated the OT characters with respect and not use them as somekind of social message in the movies.
      They could have given us ONE scene showing Luke, Leia and Han all meeting up, on screen for one last time, a "reunion" and there would not hve been all the backlash there is now.

    • @Obscurewatchcollector
      @Obscurewatchcollector Před 5 lety +114

      Andrew Pytko Nothing, actually I don’t think any execs understand this. Rogue one proved that fan service can be successful, yet they haven’t learned it. They don’t understand that letting a directly say fuck you I wanna make my own movie to an entire fan base is not a good idea, and it forced Solo to flop and now they’re paying for it

    • @cerebros3671
      @cerebros3671 Před 5 lety +15

      Because we haven’t gotten it yet.

  • @nick.19
    @nick.19 Před 2 lety +3

    "DO YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE JAR JAR IN 3D??"
    Yes, yes I want.

  • @MarvinMartinez2001
    @MarvinMartinez2001 Před 3 lety +5

    I’m sure we’re getting a part two to this documentary

  • @brandonmccall6664
    @brandonmccall6664 Před 4 lety +186

    The most heart breaking part of all this is how crushed mark Hamill is. Disney got his hopes up that he would reprise one of the most iconic roles in movie history only to crush his dreams by ruining his character

    • @Ihavehadmanynames7779
      @Ihavehadmanynames7779 Před rokem +1

      Just the name “skywalker” sounds so badass. Shame on all of them. Even george lucas for handing his own life’s work completely over to a bunch of nutcases

    • @andysalter7192
      @andysalter7192 Před 11 měsíci

      I did feel sorry for him but Mark has turned out to be such a Twat , he hates me cause I dare hold different Political opinions to him.
      Seems like a horrible human.

    • @christopherstein2024
      @christopherstein2024 Před 10 měsíci

      Please stop with this bullshit. Mark is fine.

    • @NotOzy
      @NotOzy Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@Ihavehadmanynames7779just reminding you the reason George Lucas handed his work over is because of the “fans” ironic isn’t it?

  • @lucaslagiglia
    @lucaslagiglia Před 4 lety +799

    The only good things of Disney Star Wars: Rogue One, Rebels, season 7 of cw, and the Mandalorian

    • @jamesallmon7756
      @jamesallmon7756 Před 4 lety +213

      Rebels was just a watered down, more kiddish version of Clone wars.

    • @KeoniGeiger
      @KeoniGeiger Před 4 lety +76

      I like Mandalorian, but it’s definitely overrated

    • @serduk8293
      @serduk8293 Před 4 lety +38

      I liked force awakens

    • @Prawnsacrifice
      @Prawnsacrifice Před 4 lety +40

      The last 5 minutes of rogue one being badass don't make it a good movie 😁

    • @xeno1336
      @xeno1336 Před 4 lety +7

      Rebels was kinda cool but solo?

  • @thsxi
    @thsxi Před 4 lety +9

    The Sith Jedi Wars on Malachor would be a good movie or trilogy

  • @josiah9153
    @josiah9153 Před 4 lety +9

    Correction: D&D were certainly NOT talented.

  • @GeeksandGamers
    @GeeksandGamers Před 5 lety +3417

    You put a lot of time and effort into this video. Great job man.

  • @Elder74
    @Elder74 Před 4 lety +163

    My son to me: you fought in the fan wars?

    • @MoreAwsomeMetal
      @MoreAwsomeMetal Před 4 lety +6

      The separatists were right all along. In the Clone Wars and in the fan wars...

    • @Elder74
      @Elder74 Před 4 lety +12

      Yes I was once a star wars fan, the same as my father.

    • @lanceadcock6300
      @lanceadcock6300 Před 3 lety +1

      Drath Kennedy is more commercial, and PC now than woman.

    • @501ststormtrooper9
      @501ststormtrooper9 Před 3 lety +1

      I am an Expanded Universe fan like other fans before me.

    • @georgecampbell9638
      @georgecampbell9638 Před 3 lety +5

      Elder74 before the dark times, before Kathleen Kennedy...

  • @arthurmorgan4546
    @arthurmorgan4546 Před 4 lety +1

    Can we go back to 2015, 2016? Where we all were excited? Where we all loved TFA? Where we were a bit worried but excited for Rouge One? Where we all thought Battlefront is a pretty good game? Honestly, I'll never forgot the hype for TFA, the whole world just said *"holy shit, fuckin starwars? epicccc"* I'll miss that time for the rest of my damn life.

  • @shartercam
    @shartercam Před 4 lety +1

    This is an amazing video. Good job on editing relaying of info, just stellar video

  • @merikmalhads1676
    @merikmalhads1676 Před 4 lety +170

    Disney buys star wars: "Okay great guys look at all this expanded universe, why don't we-"
    Kathleen Kenedy: "Burn it"
    And here we all felt that Jar Jar was gonna be the worst most brainless character ever created but no, turns out we didn't even need to create a fictional moron as the real world clearly outdoes any fictional nonsense we can imagine

    • @damienerickson4182
      @damienerickson4182 Před 4 lety

      Ohhhhmygawwwwd lmaoooo so true

    • @shawnschaitel838
      @shawnschaitel838 Před 4 lety

      Lmfao the eu was a glorified cash grab and fan fiction

    • @merikmalhads1676
      @merikmalhads1676 Před 4 lety +3

      @@shawnschaitel838 Ha! Okay then go back to your tiny indie company disney and get ur fill of useless feminist propaganda

    • @milaan_tm
      @milaan_tm Před 4 lety +4

      "the ability to make money doesn't make you intelligent"

    • @shawnschaitel838
      @shawnschaitel838 Před 4 lety +1

      @@merikmalhads1676 even if and when george lucas made his ST he was going to throw it out
      Meaninf people were going to be but hurt regardless
      Did you know the first thrawn trilogy ws largrly used by vlucas as test market to se if. Anyone was still onterested in star wars so he couls justify making the PT films

  • @lars9925
    @lars9925 Před 5 lety +212

    I will never pay money for something related to star wars again until Kathleen Kennedy is fired!

  • @vrolijk9865
    @vrolijk9865 Před 4 lety +2

    I love the prequels as i grew up with them, and everybody i know (who are into star wars) like them to, but a lot of older fans don't like them. This makes me wonder if in 10 years time, the new fans who are know kids will feel the same way. Although i doubt it since the new star wars films lack originality and/or creativity, and the mcu is basically a better alternative for kids now

    • @galacticspike2842
      @galacticspike2842 Před 4 lety

      Star Wars is generational people who grew up with the OT don’t like the PT, and from what’s going on so far people who grew up with the PT don’t like the ST or at least the majority of the prequel generation of fans don’t like the sequels

  • @danielgpruiz
    @danielgpruiz Před 3 lety +10

    And who could imagine that, in comparison to “The Rise of Skywalker”, “The Last Jedi” would be a masterpiece...

  • @chrisschriss3909
    @chrisschriss3909 Před 4 lety +170

    “I rather see Rian Johnson finish the trilogy”......Are you still sure about that?

    • @ignaciomoreno9655
      @ignaciomoreno9655 Před 4 lety +6

      Oh yes! At least we could see if he is really as good when he has to end a story in a coherent way and not only subvert expectations.

  • @cleny217
    @cleny217 Před 5 lety +390

    You seem waaaaaaay to nice to EA. EA is a disaster for Star Wars gaming.

    • @kimba4962
      @kimba4962 Před 5 lety +30

      EA and Disney are the Deadly Alliance to bring death upon Star Wars

    • @STOCKHOLM07
      @STOCKHOLM07 Před 5 lety +9

      Remind me again, how many games has EA done in how many years? It's pathetic.

    • @thegamingprozone1941
      @thegamingprozone1941 Před 5 lety +7

      I think battlefront 2 is doing quite well atm

    • @cleny217
      @cleny217 Před 5 lety +10

      @@thegamingprozone1941 Ya its ok now, after going through hell and greed.

    • @thegamingprozone1941
      @thegamingprozone1941 Před 5 lety +4

      @@cleny217 yeah I get ya

  • @dongeraci8599
    @dongeraci8599 Před 3 lety +4

    This is the first time I heard Johnson say the title was singular. In all foreign languages it's plural. That's a bit strange because the property owners have final say over foreign titles, which can and often do change wildly. (The Godfather for example is called "The Big Powerful Boss" in Brazil)

  • @AlexeiX1
    @AlexeiX1 Před rokem +3

    I feel like you put more thought and care into this "documentary" you put together than disney put into the sequels

  • @Dracodentus
    @Dracodentus Před 5 lety +533

    You left out continuous attacks on the fans by Kathleen and her cultists. Everything that I loved about SW was destroyed. I m done with SW

    • @mabs9503
      @mabs9503 Před 5 lety +36

      He also said the backlash against Felicity Jone's character was simply because she was a female lead so that might give you a hint as to why.

    • @Wolf-wy8br
      @Wolf-wy8br Před 5 lety +58

      Kennedy put the J in the middle of SW.

    • @Dracodentus
      @Dracodentus Před 5 lety +36

      @Filmfan Johnny You don't know me. You assume much. I even deleted the games

    • @bandolando3265
      @bandolando3265 Před 5 lety +54

      @Filmfan Johnny im probably the biggest star wars fan you'll meet and i havent seen nor will see Solo or The Last Jedi. Im not okay at all with their bullshit political stuff they keep pushing in the movies. Keep the SJW PC culture out of my star wars movies. I'll play Kotor 1&2, the real battlefront 2 and watch the prequels and originals all day every damn day but ill be damned if i ever rewatch TFA or even try to watch Solo or TLJ. TFA is a shitty remake of a new hope and the last jedi destroyed all the interesting things JJ had set up in TFA. I doubt ill watch another Star Wars media unless its made by Dave Filoni or its the Kenobi film, and only if that has Ewan McGregor playing Obi Wan again and they keep kathleen kennedys grubby sjw hands out of it. "THE FORCE IS FEMALE" shut the fuck up kathleen kennedy the force isnt a fucking sentient being its a god damn part of the entire fucking universe amd its not a fucking living thing its like gravity and atmospheres its just fucking there the damn sjw fucking cunt tries to SJW everything

    • @spotsthenpc7796
      @spotsthenpc7796 Před 5 lety +29

      @Filmfan Johnny Then why did solo flop?

  • @tomgjgj
    @tomgjgj Před 5 lety +169

    Jesus. I never actually internalized how completely and ruthlessly Disney demolished my faveourite franchise before I saw your video.
    And I'm still only at 9:32

    • @SNBullen0002
      @SNBullen0002 Před 5 lety +3

      Yeah I cried so hard that robot chicken couldn't make a Star Wars show....GTFO

    • @salerosem1976
      @salerosem1976 Před 5 lety

      Truly sucks

  • @thorgs4871
    @thorgs4871 Před rokem +1

    "This outraged Star Wars fans" is the most redundant sequence of words one could speak.

  • @Jiu-JitsuJourney257
    @Jiu-JitsuJourney257 Před 4 lety +1

    “There is no episode 7”
    STAR WARS THEME INTENSIFIES

    • @bimbos05
      @bimbos05 Před 4 lety

      George had plans for a ST, but didn't want to spill it...George being George...nothing new here

    • @AndrewChapman
      @AndrewChapman Před 3 lety

      "Well, I guess money can change anyone's mind." (Plinkett)

  • @drukenwilli4998
    @drukenwilli4998 Před 4 lety +760

    Just let Mark Hamill direct future Star Wars films. He listens to his fans.

    • @television1088
      @television1088 Před 4 lety +30

      A MAN??? You horrible sexist.

    • @drukenwilli4998
      @drukenwilli4998 Před 4 lety +22

      @@television1088 and a straight guy too??? What a shame...

    • @Neocharm
      @Neocharm Před 4 lety +18

      @@television1088 Not even transgender, how bad

    • @peskylogicchillinsky6007Futube
      @peskylogicchillinsky6007Futube Před 4 lety +4

      drunkenWilli ive been begging for that to happen!!! please disney!! come on!!!

    • @peskylogicchillinsky6007Futube
      @peskylogicchillinsky6007Futube Před 4 lety +5

      Thomas Ley geaorge lucas was a fan. thats what made the movies so good. he made the movie because it was something he wanted to see himself.

  • @Yu-cz2he
    @Yu-cz2he Před 4 lety +379

    when jar jar binks is more loved than your four new movies you know you messed up.

  • @scremmy_draws
    @scremmy_draws Před 4 lety +6

    Am I the only person that loves the prequels? They’re definitely not perfect, but they expand the lore. Plus, the action, politics, and new characters (besides JarJar he sucks) are fantastic. Quigon Jin, Darth Maul, Count Doukou, and General Grievous are all fan favorites and iconic in the universe! I can understand why people don’t like them, since they don’t even come close to the originals, but they have a certain “regal” charm to them that I personally love!