Why You're NOT Getting Stronger At Calisthenics | FitnessFAQs Podcast #47 - Saturno Movement

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  • čas přidán 27. 05. 2024
  • Today we're learning important calisthenics lessons from @SaturnoMovement . If you're looking to get stronger at bodyweight exercises, we cover the best practices for doing so.
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    Chapters:
    00:00 - Overcoming Burnout
    06:49 - How To Avoid Injury
    13:29 - Weighted Calisthenics Problems
    17:04 - Should You Train to Failure?
    22:32 - Choosing The Right Exercises
    28:46 - Can You Build Muscle With Calisthenics?
    37:20 - The Problem With Calisthenics
    43:24 - How To Train For Calisthenics Skills
    54:13 - The Truth About Handstands
    01:03:41 - Do You Need Rotator Cuff Exercises?
    01:10:29 - Mistaken Fitness Beliefs
    01:17:07 - Building A Successful Fitness Business
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  • @SaturnoMovement
    @SaturnoMovement Před 3 měsíci +97

    What a great chat my brother! Thanks for having me on! 🙏🏽

    • @instinctness36
      @instinctness36 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Hey can I ask how you recovered from golfer’s elbow, I have it right now from doing pull ups too fast.

    • @FitnessFAQs
      @FitnessFAQs  Před 3 měsíci +8

      Epic times unpacking calisthenics problems with you. Many practical takeaway for people listening 😊

    • @shrekjunior6144
      @shrekjunior6144 Před 3 měsíci +3

      ​@@instinctness36 Maybe if you go slower, or with less added weight (if you do weighted pull ups) for a while it may give your tendons time to heal.
      I don't know what my elbow pain would be considered but my elbows used to get tender so to say, but after I decrease my working volume for several weeks and switched my grip it healed and went away. I had heard from others that holding a half false grip (where your fingers are wrapped around the bar like a normal grip but your wrist is flexed and your forearms are out to the side instead of being directly under the bar like a false grip) could cause pain, and once I switched to holding the bar from directly under and making sure not to flare I think it helped clear away the tendinitis because it put my tendons at a more favorable position and gave them time to adapt and get stronger. Over time as your tendons get stronger as long as you don't perform 1,000+ pull ups with a demanding grip your tendons will eventually adapt, however if you get poor sleep and you have a poor diet this adaptation process will take much longer.
      I no longer have any elbows issues at the moment. But I am only a male teen so maybe this advice isn't helpful for a pregnant 40 year old so take what I've said with a grain of salt. Hope it helps.

    • @instinctness36
      @instinctness36 Před 3 měsíci

      thanks for the reply. im also a male teen lol@@shrekjunior6144

    • @lmack6596
      @lmack6596 Před 3 měsíci

      This is absolute gold. Thank you both so much. 💕💪

  • @om-js6qq
    @om-js6qq Před 3 měsíci +11

    "You can have almost anything you want, but you can never have everything you want" I really needed this reality check today. It's not just a lesson for training, but also for life.

  • @Aliapfelsaft
    @Aliapfelsaft Před 3 měsíci +8

    In my opinion: high bodyweight reps at the basic movements, with good form and no feeling of discomfort, are the basic for a good calistenics athlete.
    Maybe mix it up with some weighted calistenics for the fun, but keep focus on mastering the bodyweight with good to perfect form. Will take years.
    You can only run, when you are able to walk. You can only sprint, when you are able run.

  • @FitnessFAQs
    @FitnessFAQs  Před 3 měsíci +29

    Hey legends, if you found this podcast useful, leave a thumbs up to support the show ❤
    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Overcoming Burnout
    06:49 - How To Avoid Injury
    13:29 - Weighted Calisthenics Problems
    17:04 - Should You Train to Failure?
    22:32 - Choosing The Right Exercises
    28:46 - Can You Build Muscle With Calisthenics?
    37:20 - The Problem With Calisthenics
    43:24 - How To Train For Calisthenics Skills
    54:13 - The Truth About Handstands
    01:03:41 - Do You Need Rotator Cuff Exercises?
    01:10:29 - Mistaken Fitness Beliefs
    01:17:07 - Building A Successful Fitness Business

  • @NofirstnameNolastname
    @NofirstnameNolastname Před 3 měsíci +13

    First minute he mentioned golfers elbow from pullups. Exactly the problem I have been running into for over a year. I really hope this is talked about as I keep watching.

  • @lmack6596
    @lmack6596 Před 3 měsíci +8

    YES!!! 💕💪 I'm barely 2mins in, and Gabo is talking sooooo much sense. As an "advanced beginner" it is so good to hear an expert saying these things. I'm tall and female and have struggled with push ups my whole life. But a while ago I decided to ditch my ego and regress right back to a move I could do with good form. I spent time working on countertop push ups, progressing to negative knee push ups, then full knee push ups. I can now do really solid, controlled knee push ups, and confident if I keep practicing consistently solid, controlled full push ups will be next.

  • @ryanleahy704
    @ryanleahy704 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I'm just coming back from 5 months injured and this is the perfect reminder to take my time. I'm feeling better but there is no rush to get back to the level I was before. I'm just happy to be able to train again!

  • @vale5189
    @vale5189 Před měsícem +2

    ...and here I'm a 45ish fat man and I'm watching two grand masters and I can't do a passive hang on the bar for 30 sec...I feel so weak ,I have so much work to do...by the way you guys are so great on teaching movements the right way,thank you so much

  • @Aliapfelsaft
    @Aliapfelsaft Před 3 měsíci +5

    13:29-17:03 VERY important!!! This is the longterm thinking!

  • @tammyfreed8211
    @tammyfreed8211 Před 2 dny

    The candor and frank/fearless self-assessment is so inspiring, especially in one so young. Bravo to both of you.

  • @carolinegermaine9978
    @carolinegermaine9978 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Teaching how to train specific movements from the ground up is huge, as well as teaching those movements from the intermediate and advanced level. Thank you for sharing your expertise.

  • @user-xq7oi7dy1s
    @user-xq7oi7dy1s Před 3 měsíci +4

    Really nice, wanna see k boges on podcasts, he has pretty interesting approach on training

  • @GomtiMehta
    @GomtiMehta Před 3 měsíci +8

    My favorite guys right here. I have learned so much from you and Gabo.

  • @estebanlopez8800
    @estebanlopez8800 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Thanks this chat help me to stay more time on the progressions rather than if im able to do the next one do it
    Great podcast guys, 2 of my favorites in the calisthenics world
    🙌🤝

  • @Canute87
    @Canute87 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Love seeing you 2 together.

  • @HexZwo
    @HexZwo Před měsícem

    Man I just love the creativity and problem solving calisthenics forces us to use to progess further without injuries.. 🤩😁

  • @SC-ye3kw
    @SC-ye3kw Před 3 měsíci +4

    Another great interview with another great coach. At this point, I feel like I'm a CZcams fitness warrior. Body by Rings is still my favorite, but it makes me grow muscles like crazy, so much so, that I think I need to change my routine so I don't get too big. What do you suggest? I do one Push day, one Pull day, one leg day, and I play soccer once a week. I'm doing 4-5 sets of each exercise with no weights. Currently, 6'2" and 213 lbs.

  • @Sera79
    @Sera79 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Excellent episode- thank u both! 🤩

  • @psychedwellness77
    @psychedwellness77 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Excellent conversation, thank you my brothers!

  • @jeffweidmann7028
    @jeffweidmann7028 Před 26 dny

    Loved this interview! So many truths and helpful insights on how to train calisthenics with longevity of training in mind.
    One of my key takeaways that I plan to experiment with more - gearing my warm up routine to be more specific to my working set exercises and not do such an extensive warm up routine to the point of fatiguing my muscles prior to the working sets. I intuitively started doing this a few months ago. Prior to cutting back my warm ups, I was doing a very comprehensive warm up/prehab routine that was taking me at least 20 minutes prior to my working sets, and was seeing a lack of progress. Since scaling back my warm up routine, gains have started to come back slowly.

  • @franciscochavez1010
    @franciscochavez1010 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I’ve been questioning the one arm handstand for the past year. Been training it for at least 2 years. I have an extremely solid base for handstands and have great form technique for the one arm progressions. (Took a 3 month coaching from Sasha Bachman). But even still thinking of dropping it. I don’t have the time. I have 1.5 hours 6 days a week to train(not complaining). But that has to include stretch warm up. One arm handstand and I still do an upper lower split to stay in shape. Cuz y’all are right. One arm handstand doesn’t keep you in shape.

  • @MrRediste
    @MrRediste Před 3 měsíci +1

    Loved this one! Was getting very good at following my program and then really wanted to get the muscle-up, started including some reps on top of my program and got the muscle-up but couple days on and injured my wrist, since then I learnt my lesson I had to go back to basics and when I will get back into muscle up training I will be sure to include the right exercises in my program to build the basoc strength instead of random reps here and there! Thanks all the valuable info!

  • @raulzitoporai
    @raulzitoporai Před 3 měsíci +1

    So much knowledge and experience in this podcast. Amazing.

  • @navin_sw
    @navin_sw Před 3 měsíci +3

    Loved this episode

  • @rickyspanish8956
    @rickyspanish8956 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks for video! 👍💪

  • @user-hx9bq4kf1q
    @user-hx9bq4kf1q Před 3 měsíci +2

    Great podcast guys. Learnt so much. Deserves more thumbs up!! Show your support out there.

  • @PsychoDynamicFun
    @PsychoDynamicFun Před 3 měsíci +1

    This was SUPERB! Many Thanks to both of you guys, hope to see more of these💪🏼🤙🏻👏🏼 Fuerte abrazo a La Familia Saturno Mov!

  • @Alanlift
    @Alanlift Před 3 měsíci +1

    That was awesome Danial 😍👏👏

  • @physiquetailor
    @physiquetailor Před 3 měsíci

    Great podcast episodes by 2 legends in the game, loved it amazing advice thank you! 💪🏼

  • @Rizvi365
    @Rizvi365 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The goals was important. I've also cut it down because you just don't make enough progress. But Even with just 2 main ones I've made more progress in handstands and overhead strength but muscle ups I've been stuck for months in the same spot. Unfortunately can't make more time than 3 days a week but we will get there one day I'm sure!

  • @guitarherb
    @guitarherb Před 3 měsíci +1

    About handstand ! Omarbalancing is great both on one arm and planche .This exception is proving the rule

  • @franciscochavez1010
    @franciscochavez1010 Před 3 měsíci +2

    KBoges will be a fantastic next guess if you’re looking for one !

  • @munkensa
    @munkensa Před 3 měsíci

    These podcasts is pure gold👍💪😊

  • @JC-ji1hp
    @JC-ji1hp Před 3 měsíci

    Just restarted my calisthenics journey after about 5 years off. Regained my v-hold press into handstand but I’m not stable at the top. Working on getting planche and I can tuck planche with single leg extension twice on both sides. Your channel has been a gos send.

  • @Jeff-uz8ns
    @Jeff-uz8ns Před 3 měsíci

    Fantastic discussion. Thanks gents

  • @WisdomVortex361
    @WisdomVortex361 Před 3 měsíci +2

    You Both Have Really Helped My Calisthenics Journey!

  • @ShakoInasa
    @ShakoInasa Před 2 měsíci

    Such a good , transparent conversation ❤. Really Enjoyed it , Thanks 💪
    I've realized:
    1. Humbling Myself = Step Back , In order to step forward in long-term
    2. Dropping too many skills, and set realistic timeframe for my skills development. I'm choosing to master only two in 2024
    1. Handstand Pushups on Ground and Bar
    2. Front Lever

  • @jairgh5351
    @jairgh5351 Před 2 měsíci

    I love all of the podcasts!

  • @ironhawse
    @ironhawse Před 20 dny

    Great point bro, weighted Cl without the right approach is unsustainable, it will manifest in injury.

  • @catlerbatty
    @catlerbatty Před 3 měsíci

    I learned how to do a proper pushup watching Saturno's short ✌ I always thought it was impossible to bend the arms and go down when you're in that straight-armed position, until I saw him retract his scaps which instantly made it more stable. Thank you my guy 👍

  • @ashryl
    @ashryl Před 3 měsíci

    Man, a couple of kings having a chat about proper long term training, the value of this cannot be overstated

  • @teatowel11
    @teatowel11 Před 2 měsíci

    Good discussion on training to failure, there is a huge difference between doing biceps curls to failure vs doing squats to failure or, as they mention chest to wall pushup.

  • @stephannaviavalencia8617
    @stephannaviavalencia8617 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Awesome, thank you for sharing. You guys are great coaches.

  • @noahthonyangelomhn851
    @noahthonyangelomhn851 Před 3 měsíci

    That's a great podcast especially talking about your experiences and conveying great information.
    I wanted to ask this (coming from a gymnastics background) :
    Why not try to treat calisthenics training like powerlifting, training for power and strength in the 3 to 7 reps for the general movements/ related muscles and include isolated training for the smaller muscles that help the skills ( e.g. scapula, rotator cuffs etc..). Cause I can sum up calisthenics as follow, a lot of strength, control and spacial awareness ( and skill specific flexibility helps a lot)
    I've seen very good improvements and control in skills and overall strength and size after starting training this way. What's your take on that?

  • @Jeff-uz8ns
    @Jeff-uz8ns Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks!

  • @darkness1293
    @darkness1293 Před 3 měsíci

    so on the point about the separation of skills training. At what level do you think someone could get at before they would need to dedicated work for the different skills?

  • @insjok9584
    @insjok9584 Před 3 měsíci +3

    One thing about higher rep body weight calisthenics is that it gets boring and it takes a lot of time. I think that’s also why some people rush to do weighted calisthenics

  • @fitnytech
    @fitnytech Před měsícem

    Being defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes it permanent.

  • @wushuhsu
    @wushuhsu Před 2 měsíci

    Any research on training past failure, specifically doing drop sets with lower weights once failure is reached with a given weight?

  • @kolash74
    @kolash74 Před 3 měsíci

    Does anyone remember coach Christopher Sommer? It’s interesting to see how long term experience has taken these advanced calisthenics athletes to a point where they’re talking about slow and smart progression for joint and tendon health in the same way.

  • @djj3357
    @djj3357 Před 3 měsíci +1

    💯🔥💪🏾

  • @jasonreimann6791
    @jasonreimann6791 Před 3 měsíci

    TOP DAWGS

  • @anandahere
    @anandahere Před 3 měsíci

    Wow I'm here now bcz of FAQ's news letter

  • @dako89
    @dako89 Před 3 měsíci

    I think golfers elbows from doing pull ups comes from weak braquialis anterior muscles. I am training my braquialis often now.

    • @instinctness36
      @instinctness36 Před 3 měsíci

      is that your forearm muscle?

    • @dako89
      @dako89 Před 3 měsíci

      @@instinctness36 yes, one of them. It inserts in the below the biceps and ends on the forearms

    • @KastoeKrab
      @KastoeKrab Před 3 měsíci

      You mean brachialis muscle. The other forearm muscle is called brachialis radialis

    • @dako89
      @dako89 Před 3 měsíci

      @@KastoeKrab yes, I meant that one thank you

    • @Aliapfelsaft
      @Aliapfelsaft Před 3 měsíci

      Why?

  • @rista0rile0ricky
    @rista0rile0ricky Před 3 měsíci

    I’m tennis player and I have boring golfer elbow 😢,any tips?

    • @danielfarrell3534
      @danielfarrell3534 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I had super tight right lat when I had golfers elbow in my right arm. As a tennis player you probably have one side ridiculously tighter than the other because of the repetitive movement you do with a racket. You may need to address imbalances rather than just releasing tightness though as they're likely linked anyway. Muscle imbalance causing tightness.

  • @shadowking4916
    @shadowking4916 Před 3 měsíci +1

    do you take supplements?

  • @rimozione_cittadinanza_a_l4847

    Cameooooo

  • @yannick-tripleocarina6960
    @yannick-tripleocarina6960 Před 3 měsíci +2

    The S sound is very strong with your microphone

  • @gonzalezmanzanillahectormi7247

    Subtitles in Spanish please

  • @setianexus8928
    @setianexus8928 Před 3 měsíci

    calisthenics is always actual strong not looking strong

  • @crixinho5209
    @crixinho5209 Před 3 měsíci

    🇻🇪🇻🇪🇻🇪🇻🇪

  • @ebelesaurus2
    @ebelesaurus2 Před 3 měsíci +22

    Just so y’all know, calisthenics doesn’t come with these guys devilishly good looks. I tried. Doesn’t work 😂

    • @avatarbouwen
      @avatarbouwen Před 3 měsíci +10

      Ah so you have tried for multiple years yeah? Im not even a year in and see great results with only calisthenics and I dont even take it that serious LOL maybe get off the computer and do some pushups

    • @faakhy2954
      @faakhy2954 Před 3 měsíci +8

      I get my physic only with calisthenics (~ 2 years). So it works.

    • @KastoeKrab
      @KastoeKrab Před 3 měsíci +9

      Lmao that sounds like a consistency problem

    • @czuw2967
      @czuw2967 Před 3 měsíci +9

      Guys, the OP is making a joke that they’re naturally good looking dudes. Get it? No amount of working out will make you as good looking as they are - it’s a joke! Dear goodness.

    • @That_One_MF_0
      @That_One_MF_0 Před 3 měsíci +1

      He also lift weights, not just callisthenics. And your genetics also matter

  • @Jesus_LovesAndSaves
    @Jesus_LovesAndSaves Před 3 měsíci

    Jesus loves you!

  • @Jesus_LovesAndSaves
    @Jesus_LovesAndSaves Před 3 měsíci +3

    Jesus is the truth!!