I Was NOT Ready for Super Ultrawide 👀
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Checking out the SUPER Ultrawide experience with the Samsung G9 Odyssey. We'll talk about 21:9 vs 32:9, how much GPU power you'll need, and whether this beast could be a suitable one and done monitor for gaming, streaming, AND productivity for your setup.
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The constant shot of you behind the monitor is smart. Really gives a feel for the size of it.
I have the older CRG9, 1440p 120hz VA panel that has less curve to it. I LOVE it for productivity. On Windows, use the FancyZones application, you can make virtual window sizes and snap other applications into the pre-sized boxes. I made 128 little squares, and I can choose how many of them to fill up. So for games that don't support 32:9, make it Windowed and snap it into a 21:9 set of squares, and snap Discord, OBS, whatever, into the remaining squares.
Ayy fellow 32:9 gang. I use "Divvy" to do the same thing. :D
@@naota3k I didn't know there were programs that could automate that, I'll check it out!
@@nathanholtzclaw Not quite the same, but I use Strokes+ to use mouse gestures to control window sizes. But I also default to side by side because it's FAR more usable.
great video as always. that audeze headset is dope too, sheesh!
Just ordered my first g9 oled...nice video 👍
I've been heavily looking into some version of this panel for my eventual simracing setup, however I also know that I would only use it for that as I stick exclusively to flat, 24.5" monitors for FPS.
when it comes to gaming, these kind of monitors really cater more towards the flight or driving sim type games. star citizen would probably look dam amazing on this. idk if they have super ultrawide support tho.
also randomly realized at the end of the video that the "lets go" montage intro is still gone. i still miss it.
Anyone thinking about using this monitor as a pure productivity monitor - it’s awesome. My cheap Thinkpad can push a full 1440p at 60hz with HDMi to USB-C cable which is perfectly usable for running Excel or other MIS/ERP platforms. Coming from a dual 27” flat screen setup this has been a great boost for getting more done and reducing eye strain. I believe the OLED version is the monitor to avoid due to font legibility issues. I pulled the trigger Thanksgiving of 2020 and haven’t looked back.
Nice review. I use a 34" 21:9 as my main display and a LG DualUp as my 2nd side display. It works great for productivity, streaming, and gaming.
@badseedtech in MW, there is a slider in the settings which you can move the GUI elements closer. I had this monitor (now using the OLED version, which for games/movies that do not have 32:9 make the black bars completely black, so no issues there) and with that GUI pulled in towards where they would be on a 16:9 it makes playing those games much nicer. Also, you get a competitive advantage with these types of monitors because your periphery is so much wider, you can see players where you would normally not with a normal screen size.
CP2077 has the same setting for UI elements! I keep mine around the same as 21:9
Forza Horizon also does that.
got this monitor awhile ago, it's a love hate relationship.
in games when it works, it works and nothing comes close in immersion. sadly most times, it does not work, depending how close you are the pushed HUD elements do become a significant problem, and I have ran into several resolution issues as a whole with certain games where I end up changing to 16:9 through Windows. Picture in picture mode is a good idea for productivity, but general use the heavy curve would not be ideal to have your focus on one side of the monitor, unless you don't mind breaking your neck. desktop and productivity is where 32:9 shines the most, and in some games it's a treat. I personally would love the monitor a whole lot more if i can split it into 3 windows, and game in the center without a taskbar while still having the other sides to work with.
Doooood!! Being able make it 2 monitors for video editing is sick!! I don’t have room for that big of a monitor but I would be awesome to be able to run it like that.
Hard for you to miss anything when your content always hits.
Just ordered the G93SC for $999, far now manageable than $2200, can't wait for it to arrive today!
I've been debating picking one of these up... I was mainly looking at the OLED version since its currently on sale. I shouldn't have a issue with my RTX 4090
We have these at my job (IT Security). Just came in one day and our boss bought 5 of them because he figured we would be more productive. They’re pretty nice, even though I just use it for regular work stuff
Im glad you touched on the immersion element of an ultrawide/super ultrawide curved. when i got my first ultrawide i simply did not expect to be pulled into the game as much as I was. it was so immersive it was almost distracting it just feels like everything bends to your perspective. shit was insane.
what ultrawide did u get? been looking into trying one but have no idea where to start.
@@HunterAMTV I got the gigabyte one. 34in 1440p. It wasn't too expensive but really nice
@@MisfireKB thanks! ill definitely look into. ultrawides look so cool
try no man sky VR that shit is insane.
I use the oled and (previously) neo g9 for warzone. You can go to settings and in interface move the hud location to where it’ll usually on a 16:9
I've been daily driving this exact model for about five months now, coming off of a $100 Sceptre display. Going to 32:9 is a bit to get used to, but I'll never go back. I am perfectly happy having to install mods to get some games running in super ultrawide
I have the first version and very happy.
Hey man awesome video! Tip for HUD on 32:9 for Call of Duty there’s actually a setting for this under “interface” in COD where you can adjust where the HUD is and move it closer to center screen
epic video I got the wallpaper pack will share it .
Appreciate you man!
welcome man be with ya for years. ILL post pic of my setup with your wallpapers and desk pad.@@badseedtech
I wish that monitors like this would come with picture-in-picture with one 27" in the MIDDLE, and two smaller ones on the side. I know its goofy, but would be great for discord, obs, chat, web browsing, etc
I don't think you missed anything here, except maybe talking about how FancyZones from Windows PowerToys is a godsend for ultrawide/merged monitors - I've been running triple 1440p panels for awhile with a curved monitor in the middle using EyeFinity to merge them into a single screen and then FancyZones to divide up the real estate into workable units when I'm not gaming and it is excellent. Not necessary - I could always turn off EyeFinity and use the separate panels as separate panels, but it IS excellent to not have to do that all the time. That said, I am one of those bothered by warping that games get at the edges and have long wondered why developers simply don't allow for a wider range of FOV control knowing these products are out there now. With over 7 feet of monitor in front of you, essentially covering your entire horizontal FOV, capping that slider at 120 is ridiculous.
It's always great seeing ultrawide and super-ultra wide videos, because I've been considering the switch. But I don't think I could give up the 48:9 experience to go smaller - I'm hoping there will someday be a mega-super-ultrawide category that has this aspect ratio
Super Ultrawide is amazing. Been using one for a couple of years now, I just love it. Great for work and great for gaming.
I upgraded from a 1080p 240hz to a 34 inch 1440p 144hz ultrawide. Night and and day difference, its been the best upgrade ive done this year.
the G9 OLED was on sale for $750 a couple weeks ago. supppper sad i missed that deal. looks like a heck of a monitor
That's wild, I've only seen it as low as $1k. I imagine the black friday and holiday sales will be deeply discounted though
I run a 21:9 34" flanked by two 27" 16:9 and I miss surround gaming that I used to do with my old triple monitor setup.
21:9 is great for overall use but its not even close to surround.
So rather than downgrade my center monitor to another 27" I am thinking to upgrade it to one of these ultra ultra wides with 32:9
Productivity is #1 for me video editing, working from home, photo editing, etc so taking my 3x monitors (1440P) and making it basically 2x monitors was a no go.
That leaves me two choices.
Upgrade to 3x 4K monitors (looking at the Neo G8) or the 57" Neo G9
No matter what I'll miss having multi monitor side by side with the UUW, especially situations like games that want full screen and I use the extra monitors for other things.
But no matter what if I go 3x 4K I'll miss having a higher performance extended FOV and not having to jump thru all the hoops that is setting up Nvidia surround just to convert from 3x monitors to a single virtual monitor.
3x 4K is going to be hella hard to drive, but 2x 4K that I can manage in most titles with the 4090.
Just seems that there is no perfect solution here and so I am a bit torn.
I am also for the first time in probably 20 years entertaining a VA panel isntead of IPS
I think I just need a 1600P OLED monitor that is 32:9 in about a 46" size once they fix clear text and burn in issues.
Middle of the road good at everytthing, and I can still fit more monitors next to it or above it without breaking my neck.
I am looking foward to my timeline being all the way across a 32:9 monitor lol, Ill use a 2nd monitor for my full screen preview.
Very informative "day in the life of a super ultrawide" well done as always.
Thanks man!
Neat, but I've always felt the best setup is a single monitor front and center and then a pair flanking it.
If a single display could do this and I can carve up logical monitor zones for snapping to the edge of those logical screens I'd be on board. This is optimal for a productivity standpoint for me.
For gaming being able to rezone those logical displays depending on the game would be great. If I want to play a single 1440p monitor in the center for a high performance fps. Or span the full width for flight sim. Or something in-between for an RPG. This is my dream monitor.
I've been maining a 39" UW (3840 x 1600) IPS Alienware for a few weeks now and even at "only" 29:1 it is already a literal game changer (so I can only imagine what 32:9 might be like!). I was able to solve the issue of the giant stand feet (and lack of height) by using a monitor arm, but I'm thinking here that you'd need a heck of a strong monitor arm to be able to hold the weight of this 49" beast without sagging...
And while my 4080 can do a good job on a 3840 x 1600 resultion @144hz, I think a 5120 x 1440 @ 240hz panel might be one of the very few cases where a 4090 could potentially be justified.
Yeah I think there is ONE Ergotron model that will handle this beast and its not cheap for sure. Just got the Alienware UW OLED in aaaand a 4090 on the way because I’m dying to know how much you can realistically push these.
Im thinking final solution might be the UW Oled on bottom and the PG27AQN on top
That Alienware monitor is 38” and has a 21:9 aspect ratio. A 4080 is perfectly capable of driving it and the nonsensical monitor featured in this video. Lastly, a 4090 is never justified.
@@SilverJoystix I stand corrected on both accounts for the Alienware panel (typos galore 😂). As for the 4090, yeah... That is why I had to qualify the comment with a "potentially". $1.7k for a GPU is like paying over $100k for a car... It will probably never make any business sense to anyone, but those who buy one will always find other ways to justify the purchase, eh? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm using a 34" 3440x1440 ASUS with a a second screen to the side in portrait orientation and am happy.
I like mine but hud elements being that far out is annoying and the firmware update was a huge pain in the ass, but the OLED panel gives such a pretty picture.
I had/have a Super Ultrawide, it was fun for gaming, but caused some annoyance with 32:9 weirdness and games. I've moved onto using a LG C2 for my gaming rig, but the 32:9 for productivity is incredible, I cannot go back
best of both worlds is a 34" and a 27" next to it. i have the alienware dwf oled 21:9 tho and its amazing, I was planning on grabbing another 27" to pair it with and for fps gaming and things with lots of hud's but its honestly a bit hard going back to 27".. Right now I have a mac one I am using next to it and I am not thinking of grabbing another 34" but not oled for every day stuff and gaming where I dont need to worry about burnin. OLED is a game changer tho
I've always wanted one of these for the sheer ridiculousness of it. then I remember I have an aging 1060 and a system that was 2 years behind when I built it in 2018 haha. I think I need a new PC first
Hey, can you fit older triple screen games e.g f355 chalenge aracde version on single ultrawide, 3 screen next to eacj other
You can adjust the HUD position in a lot of modern games.
😱 oh. what about fps when you use the gpu with 2 dp cables?
Perhaps the biggest complaint I have of ultrawides (and super ultrawides in this case) is that they only make sense when gaming and ONLY when you're not having to look at HUD elements are far reaches of the screen (headache inducing). When used as a daily driver for apps and the like, it's annoying not being able to view content centered in any good way. You're almost always either looking right or left. Some websites can work when in full screen mode, but others are just a terrible experience. In hindsight, from using a 38" UW, I don't think I'd ever buy another until I can split screen in a more dynamic manner (i.e., not just left/right, top/bottom/, top right/bottom right, etc.)
G9 OLED 240 hz is half off right now where im at and it is extremely tempting.
Gaming on split screen, with the game window stuck to one side would drive me crazy with that curve. Is it possible to run 3 display cables from the gpu and configure it as 3 seperate windows instead of 2? Game at full 27" size in the center and two smaller windows on each side for other stuff like discord and obs?
sadly it is not possible, this would be the dream. you can still achieve similar running things windowed and configuring zones with PowerToys. downside is the taskbar will get in the way unless you hide it.
I would only get that type of monitor with either 1800-1500R for productivity or with oled for sim racing
For those wondering, some neo g9's (yes the neo version) are $1,200 ($2100 msrp)
What products are you using on your beard?
The 57" is a worthy update. it has better height so things don't feel squished, its 2x 4k Display when using PiP, and has very very good HDR unlike it's predecessors.
I used to be a hardcore nvidia surround fan back in the day, despite the general consensus being "it's junk and just to show off wasted money". That public perception won over time and nvidia surround got less and less support until it just died out. I found 34" 21:9 a decent replacement - it didn't wrap around as much as surround, but that lost width was where the image started to get stretched and distorted anyway.
It's hilarious to me now seeing people gush over these absurd wider and wider ultrawides, but dealing with these problems all over again.
I wish in general no matter what game developers add customizable hud if the game has a hud
1:32 shows one of the problems, the UI. You have to turn your head to look at the UI left and right.
Also I really don't like the stretch of the outer parts of the game ("tunnelvision")
I play with a 42" OLED TV as a monitor in 4k, you can have a wide FOV, but also the height to go with it.
Such a big monitor takes about 1-2 weeks to get used to, but then you don't want to go back to 27". :D
I break my neck anytime a game does not support moving the HUD. Some games it's a better experience to run 16:9, which defeats the entire purpose of having this monitor. Not to mention it's significant more mouse movement on some menus.
For the hud: Adjust screen borders. Simple fix. A lot of people think this will change the aspect ratio, but that is not the case. Try it out. Almost all games include this setting for this reason. I pull all my hud elements back to about a 16:9 for optimum viewing.
How tall are you Brian? I’m 6’ 2” and have been thinking about buying a monitor arm for my ultrawide as it doesn’t sit nearly as high enough as I would like.
The HUD can be adjusted in Call of Duty
Ah yes, the struggle of desk shopping and depth as a G9 user. New G9 OLED monitor stand is much smaller for new adopters thankfully.
Why dont you use your hd800s?
I have one of these I use for sim racing
I tried a stacked setup once. It felt very unnatural. Web cam placement was rough. But mostly it was not as easy to flick my eyes up as to the side. I found this true both for productivity and gaming
That's because our eyes are horizontal and not vertical.
Thats why ergotron monitor arm was basically mandatory, monitor stand is just way too big and take up most of the space on desk, have neo g9 and ergotron is definitely worth it.
I've been playing COD:WZ since 2020 on a 49". Already went thru 3 gens of GPUs. My current 4090 is able to drive this, at maxxed out settings and DLSS Quality at 140+ fps average,
Did you know you can reposition your HUD elements and minimap closer to center in the settings? Just go to the INTERFACE options and check it out.
I position mine at 50%, so smack where a regular 27" monitor's HUD would be, leaving the sides clear for peripheral vision
And trust me, the rectilinear distortion, while jarring to some, does help with spotting enemies in the periphery of your vision, because they are MAGNIFIED.
It's an unfair advantage, I would even say. You have a wide FOV, and with that wide FOV, your peripheral vision is magnified. Heh.
oh I was thinking that was the odyssey 57'' :)
i really like the lg 45inch oled size. its got the verticality many ultrawide are lacking. to bad her ppi is so abysmal.
I've got a G9 and I really, really wish HUD elements could easily be moved closer to the center of the screen in a lot of games. Never thought of hooking the same GPU up using two different inputs though. I really like that idea if I want to play something more competitive.
Aside from running audio through an AVR for surround sound I couldn't imagine trying to daily this in native fullscreen. It sucks. I've always used side by side, I only switch it to fullscreen for games or movies.
@@JZStudiosonline I mean I do snapped windows and such. Three columns for productivity for work, but all of those on the same input. I've never done picture in picture though with the same machine
@@joeymcjoeysalot6596 It really just makes it 2 standard monitors side by side.
For any monitor that is 32:9 try this trick: buy a $30 4k roku and plug it into the hdmi slot, then use picture by picture. This frees up your pc for higher fps while you watch youtube and game, and you can fullscreen your game and still use the remote control to change videos
I have the samsung g9 and i LOVE it. Ill never go back
can a beast like this be put on a monitor arm?
I've had my CRG9 for a little over 2 years now, it took me a good week to get used to it coming from 16:9 but I've loved every second of it since
I have this monitor for 3 years now got it on release and love it, I'm a professional 3D artist, and depending on the software I'm using, usually I push the main window dead center with a 16:9 aspect, and then put drag-able palettes to the side. Animating in Maya is really nice, make a nice big preview window, and still have room for the graph editor. I play a lot of games in windowed mode, more because I will get a little motion sick on FPS type games, but this is a beast with Baldurs Gate 3 and Mortal Kombat 1. Use this monitor with a monitor stand to get that height and reclaim the desk space that stand steals from you. This monitor is also Quirky tho, and mine causes crashes when booting up with other monitors on (one being the Samsung Odyssey G8 OLED, which also has that issue), I will also get random dimming when moving windows around sometimes, it's odd as you just move that window a little further and it stops the issue.
I want one for my magnus pro xl
5:09 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Some people in the forums say this monitor starts acting weird with display port and had to use HDMI 2.1 to correct the issues, is this true ?
I got cut watching this because your beard edging is so sharp
Not sure about newer models of the G9, but beware of the older ones. Many have backlight flickering issues, or worse, scanlines when running at 240Hz. The scanlines are very noticeable and there's no firmware or fix for it other than running the monitor at 120Hz. I cannot recommend this monitor due to these issues. I can't wait to get rid of it.
I had Samsungs first 1080p 49" for about a year and sold it to go to a 1440p 21:9 and regretted it. Snagged the new OLED on a black friday sale and just stacked the 21:9 above it
In COD there’s a HUD adjustment setting to move it in a little.
Love this - good looking out!
First one here !
Love your content badseed.
I have the cheapest version of this monitor and I basically NEVER play games in fullscreen. I always have application like SRWE or windows fancyzones to separate my monitor into three essentially- the middle of the panel is my regular 16:9 monitor, and the two outside ones are we're resolutions for discord or youtube and such. I also use windows 7+ taskbar editor to shrink the side taskbar down to a usable size so I don't have to be looking down at the far corners for different things in windows 10, especially because I use a lower dpi. This is my one and done
With Windows 11, you can center the task bar and make a ton of in OS adjustments to it.
I basically have the same setup with the same monitor (CRG49) and I love it
@@georgejones5019 idk I just haven't wanted to upgrade to windows 11- I like the side taskbar at any rate
What about gaming with a centralized 16:9 and then using the side-space for side-monitor stuff? discord and spotify on one side stacked and like twitch on the other for example.
Somehow this is never covered in videos about super ultrawides, but its how many of us use our side-monitors. Such a gap of use missed
Ah thats solid. Hadnt even considered that
@@badseedtech I've seen over 100 ultrawide videos now trying to decide but I've learnt nothing! 😂 It seems how most of us use multiple monitors suddenly get forgotten when you get your hands on an ultrawide!
I actually have two 1440p 27-inch monitors side by side over my 240hz main screen. It would work for me If I didn't have them in the first place, and mounting it 50 cm above the desk would be a challenge
Is that an x2h🤨 also x2h review plsss
And I thought 27” was too big for me at times gaming wise 😅 This looks fantastic and that split screen section you showed could be very useful. Wondering how good this would look in SIM racing
If Horizon 5 is any indication, this moniutor would probably be perfect for a sim racing setup. That was literally my first thought when I saw it all assembled and powered it up for the first time.
@@badseedtech I can only imagine the immersion but I bet it would be next level! Great video and awesome production quality as always 🔥
I still prefer multi monitor's and 27inch for gaming.
7:08 what headphones is he rocking?
Those are the Audeze Maxwell Ultraviolet edition. I think they were limited to 1000 units in that colorway but the base Maxwell is an incredible wireless headset
I still think 27 inch is the sweet spot for monitors tbh. These seem better for like idk movie watching or productivity.
Smart camera work compared to everyone else who reviews tech.
Still waiting on 4k oled 27/32 inch
still waiting on the pulsar x2h video 😔
What do you mean come on? 57 dominates🎉
I feel 3440x1440 will always be the sweet spot, that shit would break my neck.
I been wanting to buy a ultra wide monitor for awhile but first I need a to buy a pc
welcome to the 32:9 masterrace 😂😂
0:54 That's what she said
I’ve had my g9 for about a year now and LOVE it. I use it for work/productivity and gaming.
Fancy zones is a huge must for this.
god damn that shit is huge LMAO
For Call of Duty I love my 240Hz OLED 21:9 49" 800R Corsair Flex, it's essentially a wide version of a 32-in monitor. I also have the 175 Hz 21:9 34" Alienware OLED which is essentially a 27-in monitor. I only play Hardcore so the HUD position is not as important. However, what is important is fast visual acuity which is considerably better on a 32-in monitor and only improved with higher Hz, OLED's insanely fast response and on monitors that large 800R by far is the best choice!
OLED is certainly capable of 1kHz,
Super Ultrawide just isn't for me, the games that support it usually end up looking poor with major distortion ( it exists on UW as well but no way near as bad ) or they straight up don't support it. Also using it for desktop usage seems good at first but I had to keep looking far right or far left and having to move my head instead of just my eyes on my UW. This as you even said in the vid also happens in games... However its always cool seeing these monitors happening for those that do want this stuff. Came here to give you the view as I already watched everything about these monitors upon release of them, the G9, G9 neo, OLED and the 57inch one
Let’s be honest, starfield is a 2015 game that got released in 2023.
The jokes just write themselves
lol they really do
One of my favorite games to play in 32:9 is Destiny 2. They allow you to modify the UI "screen borders" so that stuff like your HUD/Map doesn't get pushed all the way into the corners. I have my borders set to 21:9, so even while playing in full 32:9 fullscreen, all my HUD elements are in the perfect position (for me).
I switched from my 40 inch ultrawide to a Large Format monitor , the LG C1 , and honestly, I just realized how dumb ultrawides really are, never going back to ultrawides ever again
Even productivity taken into consideration, its worse than running dual 16:9 displays because you have a weird way of segmenting elements on the screen, ends up becoming a squeezing of 3 elements on 1 display because having things side by side with the middle as a border is an absolute joke for working, especially being a full stack engineer with multiple IDEs to manage at the same time. Besides productivity , the worst affected one is watching content in general, the black bars is easy to ignore at first but eventually you wonder where all the money you invested in an ultrawide went , just feels like an inferior experience compared to a 16:9 display, and for games , not all games support ultrawide either , and those that do look weird 8 times out of 10. Ultrawides are dumb, period.
Nah bro you need to see the 57” it’s stupid lol
This monitor just looks dumb. It's approaching the point of like the big spoilers on the back of cars level dumb.
I really wish Samsung would stop making these panels. They are incredibly cumbersome to transport and less than 4% percent of games actually support this aspect ratio
Then it's not for you and you should purchase something else?
That statistic is very interesting, I have had a screen like this for about 4 or 5 years now and can remember maybe a handful of games where I could not play at 32:9. Can I ask for a source for this "less than 4% of games" claim of yours?
As for transporting, I really dont carry my monitors around with me regardless of form factor so cant really comment on that, although I do know for a fact my monitor is much lighter and smaller than my 75 inch TV or my couch or bed.