Destrehan High Varsity coach has fit, gets his team 3 techs, gets tossed out of the game and causes his team to forfeith while playing Fontainebleau High in Louisiana
A contact foul against a player while the ball is live can't be a technical foul, and I didn't see anything there that I would call excessive after the whistle blew. The crossed wrists above the head can mean flagrant or intentional. The coach earned both techs, but you can't give him a third. After two, he is no longer the coach, and the referees must suspend the match if he won't leave.
@jimmyd696969 They can certainly do that, it's in the rules. NFHS (high school basketball rules) Rule 2, Section 5, Article 4: "The referee may declare the game a forfeit when conditions warrant." Rule 10, Section 5, Penalty Note: "Ejected adult bench personnel shall leave the vicinity (out of sight and sound) of the playing area immediately...Failure to comply with the rules of ejection may result in the game being forfeited."
There’s so much wrong in this video but there’s not once did I say great call all around. I don’t see an intentional foul. Maybe something happened that can’t be seen on video. Coach earned the first T. Don’t know if he earned the second. But give a coach an opportunity to compose himself. Then if he stays outside the lines, dump him. It should be two separate acts or one continuous and obvious single act. After the first T he can’t be heard anymore. The camera moves and catches the coach after the second T. Maybe coach said something again while out of the box and could’ve earned it. But once he’s dumped, don’t stand there looking like an idiot with your arm out. He knows he’s ejected. Move away. Walk away. Turn your back. He’s gonna get his piece. What’s done is done. This definitely doesn’t rise to unilaterally ending the game. Absolutely horrible management of this situation. This was a lot of “I have the power, watch this.”
The kids got all psyched up to play, and the coach blows it for them! Nice going coach! Yeah, you're a model of coolness and control under adverse conditions, NOT!
We judged the coach and the referee crew with absolute certainty after seeing only 0:21 seconds of actual play time out of a 32 minute game. I have coached before and I am an official now. I have/had a video where an opponent threw a wild elbow. after an intentional foul (deserved) on my player. I got one technical for arguing the call. I never used profanity I simply asked "So I guess neither of you saw that flying elbow?" I my opinion I did not see an "intentional" but for the coach to come out yelling on the floor across half court was enough for a technical. I had a coach meet me as I was reported a foul. I looked to see if he had an injured player or was trying to call a time out. I asked him to return to his bench. He responded with profanity I hit him with a T.
Technical foul penalty: 2 shots by any player of the opposing team, and then the ball at midcourt. A player may only have 2 technical fouls in a game before disqualification. Intentional foul penalty: two free throws by the fouled player then the ball at the spot closest to the spot of the foul. In theory, a player may have 5 intentional fouls but any referee that lets 5 intentional fouls happen before ruling one of them flagrant and disqualifying the player is not doing their job.
Indeed, if the game were to continue, Black would have received 8 free throws (2 from the original intentional foul, 6 from the three technical fouls), and the ball at the division line opposite the table, because the technical foul penalty would be enforced last. If this was an NCAA game, Black would have received the ball at the spot nearest to the foul (women), or the 28 foot mark (men), because technical fouls are enforced from the point of interruption, not by automatically placing the ball at the division line opposite the table.
There wasn't a tech called originally either. It was an intentional foul for grabbing the dribbler around the waist, which imo isn't even that bad.. it's just a normal foul without intent on going for the ball. More often than not I see players intentionally fouling in the last minute of the game in order to get to the basket (for fuck knows what reason, I think it's stupid because you're just giving the other team free throws), so really it WAS an intentional foul, but no, a tech wasn't called
Teams intentionally foul at the end of a game in the hopes that they will get the ball back quicker, and maybe the other time will only get 1 or 0 points. It stops the clock and potentially gets them the ball quicker instead of running the clock out
@@joshkotek7211 The reason why teams still do it in close games is because it has actually worked as far as change of possession and last second victories. It's crazy because we see it NOT work so often.
I love how once the coach is gone the refs call the game. Once you get ejected bring in the cops to escort you out so the kids can finish. and yes the fans are stupid
That was indeed a common foul on the original play against #22...Tapes like this need to be sent to their school association and their referee association...That will shut em up quick and change their tunes...
Gotta Love the fans in the background who are shouting for a tech to be called on the foul. Whether it's a technical foul or an intentional foul the result is till 2 shots plus the ball for throw-in therefore why exactly are they arguing??
I can't get past how stupid the parents are. Saying that should be a tech... That's another T... Terrible ignorance and proud of the "victory" when ref called the game as the coach was out the door leaving.
The coach has every right to be pissed. There's no way a tech could be called there. They Were trying to put the kid at the line and it wasn't a rough foul or anything. Piss poor officiating.
The issue isn't about the referee or what he did, it's about the coach who got hot, bucked up against the ref and displayed inappropriate behavior to his team of impressionable kids. (As for the video it looks like a parent in the stands. Dumbass is kind of strong don't you think? It's not about what the coach says, you can tell by his actions.
that is absolutely the worst officiating I have ever seen. You called it on the coach you throw him out and then you forfeit the game unbelievable horrible officiating
This is the worst you've ever seen? You need to get out more. No referee has the authority to rule a forfeit, they can only suspend the match. These referees did everything exactly right.
@@goodros I would beg to differ with you. Rule 5-4-1 of the NFHS rulebook states that "The Referee may also forfeit a game if any player, team member, bench personnel, or coach fails to comply with any technical-foul penalty, repeatedly commits technical-foul infractions, or other acts that make a travesty of the game." The official was well within his rights, by rule, to declare the game a forfeit. Rule 2-5-4 also says that "The Referee may declare a forfeit when conditions warrant". A coach repeatedly misbehaving would warrant the game ending in my judgement.
i dont referee basketball but i umpire baseball…..unless the coach is making a threat to my life no shot in hell I'm calling the game while he has one foot out the door
J Bear The technicals and ejection were right. Your correct in that he shouldn't have called of the game. I ref basketball and have been attacked but we still finished the game (just with another ref).
I don't know where to begin on this one. I will say that the officiating was horrible just by looking at the small clip. Who knows what else it was like and how much time was left before they called the game. Back to the refs, they mechanic were real bad. Didn't know if they were calling a tech or intentional. They were out of position and having two trails is not good. You can have Centers for a brief especially if the one center is officiating a play. They let the game get out of control. Due to them not calling the fouls that needed to be called. let's talk about that last play where that official called and intentional on white 22. That was not an intentional, he was going for the ball and the player with the ball was swinging his elbows with the ball. You can hear the Coach call time out and refs didn't hear it because they were to busy ball watching instead of reffing their pc. Where it gets interested is when white 22 took offense to the swinging of elbows. If they wanted to they could have ejected both players. Reason for malicious swinging of the elbows and retaliation. Then the ball would have been giving back to the team in black due to poi. That's my two cents on this situation. The officials didn't handle their business out there and they cause this mess.
It started because the ref called a brutal intentional foul. It was not an intentional foul. The kid on defense actually had his hands on the ball when the foul was called. I have no problem with them calling a foul there, but no way was it an intentional foul. This is exactly why coaches lose it at the end of games. You know the defense is trying to foul or go after the ball. Don't be a douche bag and call an intentional foul and basically ending the game. And yes, the coach is a douche bag for losing his mind, but I can't really blame him.
The coach went overboard, but that was an AWFUL intentional foul call. He was going for the ball. Teams are always trying to foul at the end of the game to stop the clock and get the ball back. I can't stand when refs do this. Unless the defender tackles the kid, it isn't intentional.
The intentional foul call is correct. Grabbing a player and wrapping him up, like White 22 did, SHOULD be called an intentional foul, because that is not an attempt to play the ball. This is an NFHS Point of Emphasis for this season.
The coach said "That's freakin' horrible!", which could be construed as profanity in this situation. He said this after repeatedly arguing that his player was going for the ball, and after the official showed him how his player fouled.
That's what the cops are for? Oh my good people please just shut up. You do not know the rules. The refs game management was brutal. They let that game get out of control so fast.
A contact foul against a player while the ball is live can't be a technical foul, and I didn't see anything there that I would call excessive after the whistle blew. The crossed wrists above the head can mean flagrant or intentional. The coach earned both techs, but you can't give him a third. After two, he is no longer the coach, and the referees must suspend the match if he won't leave.
i love the guy throwing up the shocker when he is yelling three dollars
funny how high school basketball gyms look so small once u leave Indiana.
@jimmyd696969 They can certainly do that, it's in the rules. NFHS (high school basketball rules) Rule 2, Section 5, Article 4: "The referee may declare the game a forfeit when conditions warrant." Rule 10, Section 5, Penalty Note: "Ejected adult bench personnel shall leave the vicinity (out of sight and sound) of the playing area immediately...Failure to comply with the rules of ejection may result in the game being forfeited."
I referee basketball. Great calls all around.
Baseball umpires let too much go. There should be a lot more ejections in baseball.
Yes sir.
You do realize baseball umpires throw guys out for LOOKING at them wrong right?
There’s so much wrong in this video but there’s not once did I say great call all around.
I don’t see an intentional foul. Maybe something happened that can’t be seen on video.
Coach earned the first T.
Don’t know if he earned the second. But give a coach an opportunity to compose himself. Then if he stays outside the lines, dump him. It should be two separate acts or one continuous and obvious single act. After the first T he can’t be heard anymore. The camera moves and catches the coach after the second T. Maybe coach said something again while out of the box and could’ve earned it.
But once he’s dumped, don’t stand there looking like an idiot with your arm out. He knows he’s ejected. Move away. Walk away. Turn your back. He’s gonna get his piece. What’s done is done.
This definitely doesn’t rise to unilaterally ending the game.
Absolutely horrible management of this situation. This was a lot of “I have the power, watch this.”
The kids got all psyched up to play, and the coach blows it for them! Nice going coach! Yeah, you're a model of coolness and control under adverse conditions, NOT!
Good thing that intentional flying elbow didn't connect with a player wearing white before #22 received his tech foul....
We judged the coach and the referee crew with absolute certainty after seeing only 0:21 seconds of actual play time out of a 32 minute game. I have coached before and I am an official now. I have/had a video where an opponent threw a wild elbow. after an intentional foul (deserved) on my player. I got one technical for arguing the call. I never used profanity I simply asked "So I guess neither of you saw that flying elbow?" I my opinion I did not see an "intentional" but for the coach to come out yelling on the floor across half court was enough for a technical. I had a coach meet me as I was reported a foul. I looked to see if he had an injured player or was trying to call a time out. I asked him to return to his bench. He responded with profanity I hit him with a T.
Technical foul penalty: 2 shots by any player of the opposing team, and then the ball at midcourt. A player may only have 2 technical fouls in a game before disqualification.
Intentional foul penalty: two free throws by the fouled player then the ball at the spot closest to the spot of the foul. In theory, a player may have 5 intentional fouls but any referee that lets 5 intentional fouls happen before ruling one of them flagrant and disqualifying the player is not doing their job.
Indeed, if the game were to continue, Black would have received 8 free throws (2 from the original intentional foul, 6 from the three technical fouls), and the ball at the division line opposite the table, because the technical foul penalty would be enforced last. If this was an NCAA game, Black would have received the ball at the spot nearest to the foul (women), or the 28 foot mark (men), because technical fouls are enforced from the point of interruption, not by automatically placing the ball at the division line opposite the table.
Refs nailed it.
I'd like to know what lead up to the start of this video.
I think he was challenging the ref to a dance off at 1:35.
That seemed like hometown refereeing, that definitely wasnt a tech on the kid originally
There wasn't a tech called originally either. It was an intentional foul for grabbing the dribbler around the waist, which imo isn't even that bad.. it's just a normal foul without intent on going for the ball. More often than not I see players intentionally fouling in the last minute of the game in order to get to the basket (for fuck knows what reason, I think it's stupid because you're just giving the other team free throws), so really it WAS an intentional foul, but no, a tech wasn't called
Teams intentionally foul at the end of a game in the hopes that they will get the ball back quicker, and maybe the other time will only get 1 or 0 points. It stops the clock and potentially gets them the ball quicker instead of running the clock out
@@joshkotek7211 The reason why teams still do it in close games is because it has actually worked as far as change of possession and last second victories.
It's crazy because we see it NOT work so often.
I love how once the coach is gone the refs call the game. Once you get ejected bring in the cops to escort you out so the kids can finish. and yes the fans are stupid
That was indeed a common foul on the original play against #22...Tapes like this need to be sent to their school association and their referee association...That will shut em up quick and change their tunes...
The woman sounded like Linda Belcher from Bob's Burgers
@megabballqueen did the game end?
Coach should be fired for losing control
You can't lose your cool like this coach did but that was not an intentional foul against #22 in white. He was reaching for the ball.
There was some tussling after the whistle that drew the enhanced call.
He grabbed him from behind, decent call. Certainly no T as the crowd wanted
Just relax and enjoy the game
Why did they give the kid a T in the first place??
Coach needs to get some strange . . .
3 dollars. 3 dollars.
Get the cop
As a basketball player if my coach did this I would quit for his poor attitude
Gotta Love the fans in the background who are shouting for a tech to be called on the foul. Whether it's a technical foul or an intentional foul the result is till 2 shots plus the ball for throw-in therefore why exactly are they arguing??
It's an intentional foul if the contact happened while the ball is in play. If it happens after the play is over, then it is a technical foul.
offense player stuck his elbows out and swung them while stepping at players
I can't get past how stupid the parents are. Saying that should be a tech... That's another T... Terrible ignorance and proud of the "victory" when ref called the game as the coach was out the door leaving.
Coach should be fired. What a horrible example for student athletes.
Ben Glass You should go see more games so you understand the sport or don't comment on something you clearly know nothing about.
The coach has every right to be pissed. There's no way a tech could be called there. They Were trying to put the kid at the line and it wasn't a rough foul or anything. Piss poor officiating.
those aren't home fans👎 home fans don't do that that's the visiting teams fans👍
Fans if u were like that in my gym u would bebgone
The issue isn't about the referee or what he did, it's about the coach who got hot, bucked up against the ref and displayed inappropriate behavior to his team of impressionable kids. (As for the video it looks like a parent in the stands. Dumbass is kind of strong don't you think? It's not about what the coach says, you can tell by his actions.
that is absolutely the worst officiating I have ever seen. You called it on the coach you throw him out and then you forfeit the game unbelievable horrible officiating
This is the worst you've ever seen? You need to get out more. No referee has the authority to rule a forfeit, they can only suspend the match. These referees did everything exactly right.
@@goodros I would beg to differ with you. Rule 5-4-1 of the NFHS rulebook states that "The Referee may also forfeit a game if any player, team member, bench personnel, or coach fails to comply with any technical-foul penalty, repeatedly commits technical-foul infractions, or other acts that make a travesty of the game." The official was well within his rights, by rule, to declare the game a forfeit. Rule 2-5-4 also says that "The Referee may declare a forfeit when conditions warrant". A coach repeatedly misbehaving would warrant the game ending in my judgement.
the fans were just happy they didn't have to watch any more of this shit....
wow I didnt think a ref could do that, but I guess in HS anything is possible
They can do that at any level. When the officials are present, they’re in charge and they can call a game
i dont referee basketball but i umpire baseball…..unless the coach is making a threat to my life no shot in hell I'm calling the game while he has one foot out the door
Amen sir...I umpire baseball as well, also softball, and these referees were way out of line
J Bear The technicals and ejection were right. Your correct in that he shouldn't have called of the game. I ref basketball and have been attacked but we still finished the game (just with another ref).
Grandpa was having none of grandsons temper tantrum….”get to your room!”
lol funny stuff
I don't know where to begin on this one. I will say that the officiating was horrible just by looking at the small clip. Who knows what else it was like and how much time was left before they called the game. Back to the refs, they mechanic were real bad. Didn't know if they were calling a tech or intentional. They were out of position and having two trails is not good. You can have Centers for a brief especially if the one center is officiating a play. They let the game get out of control. Due to them not calling the fouls that needed to be called. let's talk about that last play where that official called and intentional on white 22. That was not an intentional, he was going for the ball and the player with the ball was swinging his elbows with the ball. You can hear the Coach call time out and refs didn't hear it because they were to busy ball watching instead of reffing their pc. Where it gets interested is when white 22 took offense to the swinging of elbows. If they wanted to they could have ejected both players. Reason for malicious swinging of the elbows and retaliation. Then the ball would have been giving back to the team in black due to poi. That's my two cents on this situation. The officials didn't handle their business out there and they cause this mess.
I saw that the score was a 2-point and my best guess was there was still about three minutes left. So who knows?
WATCH OUT EVERYONE, IVAN'S A BAD ASS OVER HERE....
Jordan Truppner I'm not a bad ass, I just call it like I see it
Which is why you should keep your mouth shut on matters you know nothing about.
Zach Reese Zach, your ignorance is astounding and impressive. Actually, I feel bad for you.
very funny
It started because the ref called a brutal intentional foul. It was not an intentional foul. The kid on defense actually had his hands on the ball when the foul was called. I have no problem with them calling a foul there, but no way was it an intentional foul. This is exactly why coaches lose it at the end of games. You know the defense is trying to foul or go after the ball. Don't be a douche bag and call an intentional foul and basically ending the game.
And yes, the coach is a douche bag for losing his mind, but I can't really blame him.
The coach went overboard, but that was an AWFUL intentional foul call. He was going for the ball. Teams are always trying to foul at the end of the game to stop the clock and get the ball back. I can't stand when refs do this. Unless the defender tackles the kid, it isn't intentional.
The intentional foul call is correct. Grabbing a player and wrapping him up, like White 22 did, SHOULD be called an intentional foul, because that is not an attempt to play the ball. This is an NFHS Point of Emphasis for this season.
Weak officials, lost control, the guy that called the game is weak.
The officials were probably the only ones there that kept their cool.
No lady, that is not what the cops are for !!!!
If you think you can do better, why don't you go officiate a game
Well I would if I would do a good job that's their job so they need to do a good job
saying "Ref You're Horrible" shouldn't even be a tech let alone ending the game, if you are a ref, it's your job to take verbal abuse. Disgraceful!
The coach said "That's freakin' horrible!", which could be construed as profanity in this situation. He said this after repeatedly arguing that his player was going for the ball, and after the official showed him how his player fouled.
This officiating crew was totally in bed with Fontainebleau. Game played at St. Paul's. Officials from the northshore association.
That's what the cops are for? Oh my good people please just shut up. You do not know the rules. The refs game management was brutal. They let that game get out of control so fast.
Yep, confirmed you are an idiot...
The coach was right. It wasn't an intentional. He was going for the ball. Just a common foul. Shitty refs and stupid fans.
Man, your dumb comments just keep coming up, huh?
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