6 New Bikepacking Bikes You NEED To Know About!
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Sooo.... what innovative bikepacking bike do you think deserves more air time? 🤔🤔🤔
Definitely the titanosaur 🦖
The KHS at the end peaked my interest, mainly because it uses a 2x drivetrain. I don't tour, yet, but if I did I would much rather use a 2x setup. However what I would do differently from the KHS is use an 11-34 rear cassette and a square taper bb with a mtb crankset and a 22/42. I speak in ratios instead of g.inches and so the final low on the KHS is .76. However with my setup the final low is a .67 and on top of that it has nice close ratios which are key to maintaining efficiency. I actually have a bike with this setup. I took a Target Schwinn Trailway hybrid and made it into a drop bar monster with 2.0 tires. The setup works great! I use the 42t to get to the trails and drop it into the 22t. And those close ratios are just as good in the trails. I did the same thing with my fat bike. I replaced the 1142/32 with an 11-34/24 11 speed Ultegra cassette. I had to omit the 11t because the freehub doesn't have the space but it doesn't matter as I spin out at 19mph. I am all about cadence and efficiency so I would rather lose the high gearing. Great video series btw. I've watched all of your videos!!
Recumbents and velomobiles. Lightning p38, F40, Quattrovelo, Mango, LWB recumbents like Bachetta Bella
The Titanosaur is very interesting and I would like to see more. I am not sure if it actually rides well, if you're average sized. Also adressing the nice gear ratio of the last bike in the video was a good thing. I made a similar thing with my Ritchey Break-Away Ascent with 46/30 in front and 11/42 rear. 1x on touring bikes doesn't work with chain-shifting-mechanisms for me at the time.
Thx.
They dansk people did a 36" bike with an aluminium frame that looked like a longboard bmx
While the nerd in me loves the innovative and unusual stuff, it’s the entry level stuff I want to see more of! As a rule, there’s not a lot of money out there at the moment. Even my AU$1600 Merida Silex was a stretch and most people I know hesitate to go above $2K on a new bike. So, just to be contrary...more of the value bikes please! Meanwhile...love your work.
variety is the spice of life!!
If you don't mind me asking: How happy are you with the Silex? I've have had an eye on it for a while but no opportunity to look at one in person, let alone test ride one.
The thing that stands out for me the most is that it seems to come from a different angle than most gravel bikes - namely making a MTB more roady instead of making a roadbike more offroady if that makes sense. Would you agree?
"most people I know hesitate to go above $2K on a new bike"
I see the opposite...fat middle aged guys on $7000 E "bikes".
We must ride different areas.
@@marcalvarez4890 Different planets even. Most people are struggling, not buying 7k ebikes.
Exactly, there is advantage in Cheaper ... Less chance of theft. Bringing more options/better odds with parking it, shipping it .
Fantastic channel with eloquent fact packed delivery ! No BS you're in Top Handful of CZcamsrs ! Cheers..
Thanks so much!
Fairlight is my favourite bike brand, really nice bikes. One day I'll have a Faran hanging on my wall and rolling me around the world.
Best bikepacking channel on CZcams
I'm glad to hear you think so!
Hey! That’s my bike @8:40! Looking forward to finally get a chance to load it up this next week for a couple days out on eastern Washington “gravel”! It’s already proved to be an extremely stable and capable rig. Best part about these MaHall expedition gravel builds is that you can customize the frame to your specific needs for the terrain you ride.
Really enjoy your technical view and explanation and enthusiasm for the thing.
Done a year myself and was thinking of this stuff whole the time. You have really nailed it.
Alee, I'd love to see more wacky bikepacking bikes like the Titanosaur on this channel. Those are beyond cool! Great video!
The prospector & gear hub with a suspension fork would be a winner for me. With 2 sets of wheels. . Thanks all the bikes were excellent.
Good choice!
It's funny how the things people have been doing for years have started to become trendy and catchy names like Bikepacking which used to be bike touring with bags. Overlanding use to be 4x4 camping. It's all good just remember your grandparents were just as cool maybe even cooler when they were doing the same thing.
Check out the Priority 600x. I would love to get your input on it.
Thx you Doug
Same here.
Front is to high for medium or shorter leg riders. very tall specific front geometry
Haven't seen much from you in awhile. Hopefully that is a good sign your doing well and enjoying life. Just wanted to say you inspired us(along with a bike touring friend) to chase a double dream of sorts. We wanted to buy a sailboat (combined with bikes) and so we bike toured the pacific northwest of the united states during the pandemic in the middle of winter. It was extremely difficult psychologically just being wet, cold, in the wind, and completely isolated, no coffee shops to stop in, no places to warm up, it was like a wilderness trek thru a populated place. We do have extensive biking and camping experience in Minnesota in the winter but being wet is a whole other matter indeed.
We set off and biked almost to the Canadian boarder, then we met an Argentinian whom had an off shore cruiser he couldn't keep. Now we are working on her and getting her ready to take us to the dustra.
Guys from Wheels of wander did 25.000 km around the world with the 45 buck used steel frame based bicycles.
Great list. If I had to add a couple to the mix. Priority bikes makes an adventure bike packing hard tail bike 600x with a planetary gear set and belt drive. Also salsa released a single speed gravel race bike called the stormchaser designed for the muddy trail conditions. I think both can be great low maintenance bike packing bikes.
I have just found a new interest in fat bikes. I have recently replaced a narrow wide 30T to drive a 11 to 28 gear cog. I will be converting my bike to a backpacking bike and hope the gears will work on steep uphill road climbs. I like your suggestions on this topic.
Priority 600X. I would love it if you did a review of this bike.
Dropped down here to say Priority 600 X and you beat me to it. Well said. That pinion gearbox seems really cool and with its location on the bike might be better than the Rohloff hub in terms of weight distribution.
A bike that nice and you wouldn't want to leave it locked up outside!
Alee, what do you know about the priority 600X? Thank you for all of the content.
Adding a 600x to the quiver alongside my MAHALL Bikeworks Expedition Gravel Bike this week.
Ryan Duzer sold me on it.
Will follow up with feedback.
I would be interested in his opinion on this bike too.
just received my 600x a few weeks ago ....... dope and bomb proof if your wilderness riding it really exceeded my expectations from a ride quality point of view pinion and belts could be the future of backpacking bikes
This channel has learned me a lot. I'm now more than ever convinced there is one bike that is suitable for everything I want to do with it; gravel rides, short ride to the city, bike packing and even a nice tour ride with road bike friends. But what do you think of electric bikes? My ideal bike is a bike with broad clearance for tires, gravel handlebars and geometry, Rohloff and belt driven, all of the packing possibilities with internal routing for dynamo etc, and I would have loved a electric motor in it too... best I can find for now is the Tout terrain with a Pendix aftermarket motor...
Thank you! My 2020 Kenesis Tripster AT is fitted with Shimano 105 (11/32 cassette & 50/34 chainring). This is too high for off road climbing and your on-screen configuration summary for KHS bike has answered my dilemma! Great content and production!
I think we can open a whole University for teaching about biking and its Science. 😎🤙
It would be great if in future you could mention (also suggestion for your buyers guide) if these frame take road/gravel, mtb or boost chansets. A key selling point for me, is a narrow Q-factor.
The MaHall bike is interesting in the fact that it is built around boost (or even super boost rear if you need extra extra clearance) while still maintaining a 68mm BB shell. Super narrow Q-factor and capacity for large chainrings/gates ring meets large volume tires. It's a tough combination to get right and another reason why we built the bike around 500mm chainstays.
Hi, Alee. I was really excited when I saw your information on the KHS Grit 440 in your recent update to the Buyer's Guide, so I messaged KHS. They are unaware of an 11x42 & stated the Grit 440 has a rear cassette of 11x34. Below is the message I sent to KHS. They responded that you must have got your information from a source with a typographical error. I was really hoping for that gearing, but maybe it will come one of these years from SRAM. Little chance Shimano will ever get gearing correct for bikepackers. Btw, just read your entire Bikepacking Bike Buyer's Guide for 2021 & loved it! As an avid cyclist for decades, I still learned plenty, especially when it comes to bike fitment! Thanks for putting out high quality information I haven't seen elsewhere! BG
Hello, KHS. I would like to buy the GRIT 440 Gravel bike that Aussie Alee Denham, author of The Bikepacking Bike Buyer's Guide for 2021 claims has a 48x32 crank chainrings & the Mullet rear cassette of 42x11. Alee just put out a youtube video updating his Buyer's Guide stating this information, but is it possible the bike is equipped with that gearing in Australia but not in the US? No bike parts company, including Shimano & SRAM or any bike manufacturing company have gearing options like Alee described on a stock bike, so I have my doubts. However, if you offer that version he describes, I want a KHS GRIT, & there will be thousands of others that feel the same way!!! What say you? Respectfully, BG
My lbs converted my Mason Bokeh with Shimano GRX from 1x to 2x. I was surprised when the mechanic said we could leave the 11-42 cassette fitted (with no spacers or adaptors of any sort), as I understand it invalidates the warranty and just won't work well.
5000 flawless km later, I am still nervously waiting to see what the problem is. I hesitate to recommend doing it, but it seems to be working for me. It would be interesting to hear if anyone else has tried it.
I am curious to see the effect of 36" wheels on biking, they seem a logical evolution for long haul cycling.
You mean those 'monster wheels'? Because if yes I don't think they'd be too good because of the high rolling resistance.
@@tonyderechte3928 Why would they have higher rolling resistance?
I love these videos, even the old ones, to open my eyes to a variety of bike brands. Being a heavy rider, I like the idea of a low geared bike.
Hey, can you do a video about touring for beginners and what workouts you do to prepare for cycling long distances?
I’m a 2017 Bombtrack owner. The bike is a hoot. I got a hold of a bpc fork. Warning if you get one the axel is 15x110 158 which is not stated on the website.
Hah! I‘m using the same frame as the KHS GRIT 440! I’ve got a white industries 42-24 Cranck and a 10-42t cassette. With 27,5“ wheel i have *15,5 gear inches in my lowest gear!* and 111 at the top end, which gets me up to 48kph @90 rpm!
Super nice and wide setup!
(There are more details about how to make it work, but it could go into the article: „ how to achieve a wide range Modern 2x drivetrain“ )
That sounds like the perfect 2X drivetrain for the mountains. 👌🏼
I like the list. Some really near bikes to consider. I'm still leaning very heavily towards the Priority 600x, though this is mainly because I own the Priority 600 and have been in love with it. I feel the 600x would work a bit better on a lot of the terrain I have near me, though I do intend to push the 600 a little more to its limit once the snow is melted on a lot of the trails.
I think the 600x would be the bike i would be buying!
Thanks for you being you & sharing a great episode.
My pleasure!
Ok slight of topic. Would really like some more vids on catering. One pot cooking with dried stuff that can keep u fuelled for little weight. I have seen one little bit is a vid from South America but a show on that tpoic would be amazing. Maybe not all full vegan
Would like your opinion of the Priority 600x.
Awesome, as always. Happy to pay for your work because it’s meaningful and not fluff.
Love the gear ratios on that KHS, finally really wide range.
I would like to hear about the bag system on the bike in the thumbnail. The pros and cons of the front bags being higher or lower. I like the look of that bag system on the thumbnail. 4 small bags in line with each other.
You can read more about the bags/racks here: www.tumbleweed.cc/store/mini-pannier-rack-and-porcelain-rocket-microwave-combo
The bags will soon be produced by Rockgeist, who purchased Porcelain Rocket a few months ago...
yeah, i would go high point settings for gear
FYI chainstay adjustment on the TJ is optional on geared models & standard on single speed models.
Wow. I didn’t realize you are 6’6”! I’m about the same and love knowing that you’re such a good reference. My XXL Surly Ogre was lost in Uzbekistan last year and I’m in the market foe a replacement. Thanks for being so thorough with your research.
I have a big bike list on my website if you ever need it! www.cyclingabout.com/list-of-xxl-xxxl-bikes-for-tall-cyclists-62-63-64cm/
Just got my hands on a Tumbleweed Prospector and love it.
did you order it from the US? Once the CEO said in an interview that they had a distributor in Germany but I did not find out anything about this.
Thankyou Alee. Liking those "wagon wheels" for everyday use on normal and potholed roads. For years I had wondered how much smoother rides could be. Those rippled Australian tracks were unusual. I wonder what caused that?
When I was living in a little village in New Mexico, there was a corrugated gravel section of the road (only about 1km) long on my way to school that I would ride on a rusty old mountain bike each day. I cannot imagine riding that sort of road for days on a bikepacking trip! Give me the biggest wheels you can, please!! I was already on 29"!
Chumba Stella comes in steel or titanium, 29er or 27.5 set up, Austin, TX. Custom component builds.
Really like the Salsa TimberJack option which allows you to use a non side drop out so you can use a 14 spd rohloff hub… That would be great if this option could be used on the salsa cutthroat 2020 as would like to put it on mine.
Can you switch a 29/27.5 wheel or is specific to the frame when ordering.
It's the same frame for 27.5x3.0 or 29x2.6.
Для меня был, есть и будет только Trek 920! Это не просто универсальный грэвел велосипед, главное его преимущество в устойчивой раме трейлового гоночного байка. Для перевозки груза в условиях бездорожья, по любым лесным тропам, и спуске с неподготовленных холмов, он впереди всех!
Curve GMX+ would love to see more on this bike
What do you think of the Salsa Marrakesh for a bike packing bike, I plan to by a used one.
The Prospector is about as close to my dream bike as currently exists.
Just wanted to mention that I built my Faran 2.0 with a 46/30 crank (Power2Max NgEco gravel) and an 11-36 cassette. With the 700cx42 tires I currently use that gives me a low gear of 23 inches and a high gear of 116 inches, and I'm pretty sure the Shimano GRX derailleur can handle an 11-40, which would give slightly below 21 inches. If an 11-42 actually works, I'll get 19.7. I guess that will be good enough here in predominantly flat Sweden.
i've got 46/30 with 11-40 on my faran and it works great
@@j1mbobable not surprised. According to many sources, the ordinary Ultegra road groupset seems to handle 11-40 pretty well, so I'm not surprise that GRX also does.
...and the last bike is why I still want to 2x drivetrain for my rig.
Thanks again my friend! Excellent and informative as usual...
What about the Otso Waheela C? I'm musing about this one for myself...if you 'mash up' the Waheela and Warrakin (very similar) they're available in Alum/Carbon or Stainless or Titanium. Also, one of the few bike manufacturers (they are part of Wolf Tooth) that still thinks threaded BBs are better (I do too!!)
I have been watching your channel for a quite a while now... Absolutely awesome work... However I really want to understand your technical speak and wonder if you could make a single video guide for a newby trying to buy and move from his solid reliable and heavy $600 bike to a $2000 dollar bike. How to make that step? Or should I just wait. Short legs, long torso, heavy guy... Drags a trailer with a KRT dog for 250km on trips... Lots of gear to carry as well.
Thanks Alee, awesome content as always. I'm looking forward to the 2021 touring bikes review. Btw - I reckon Kona should share some profits with you, I've bought the Sutra just recently, predominantly because of your video.
Love your t-shirt mate 💪👊
a great, fun list. mostly new to me!! the bikes I've checked on are sold out. make deposits now and hope for late summer deliveries.
Mmm that Curve titanasor might actually fit me. Love me a go on that.
Still pedalling my 2016 Marin pine mountain ($999). Surly Ogre ok but expensive. Interested in rolloff+gates drive 27.5x3" unit such as the Shand Bahookie rohloff but it is $5,600 which is ludicrous.
Need to do one on the Jones Ti Space
Hello nice to see and watch new video from you.. Nice content.. Keepsafe
Priority 600X. It has competed the Tour Divide in the US! Pinion Gear box with belt drive comes standard. Cost is < $4000 US!
+1 on Priority. My 600X just shipped and I'm excited to see how it fits and performs. I'd like to see it professionally reviewed or talked about on CZcams.
I'm getting old. 21" isn't low enough for me. I dropped down to 17". Edit- I also started running 170mm cranks instead of 175s & my knees feel a lot better.
I would absolutely love to see a full review of the priority 600 X I’m thinking about buying and would just love to get your take
Salsa cuttthroat vs canyon grail for light backpacking and some on road to more off road performance... go! I wanna know
WTF thats two completely different bikes, makes no sense to compare them
any comments on the Priority 600x bike - I'm considering this bike - in your opinion is the bike superb quality for bike packing and touring
Thanks for all the information, love your work! Not in this video but I really like the tout terrain silkroad, if I had the money that's what I would buy. At the moment I have a cannondale caadx cyclocross [ tiagra ] which I'm putting the schwalbe nobbies it came with back on and getting some frame bags for weekend trips--appreciate your opinion. cheers Colm
You're welcome! The best bike is always the one you have... so definitely kit the CaadX out with fresh rubber.
Jan would love that first bike.
Interesting list of bikes! No mention about the Nordest Sardinha?
For me goal is custom titanium frame, rohloff speed hub, 29er, carbon belt.
If money is tight you could pair a modern (disc brake) steel or aluminum frame with a Rohloff and chain drive/tensioner and get a somewhat similar experience.
@@dougfromsoanierana carbon belt is the future, chain was never good for long trips. You can use steel or Alu frame but belt and rohloff are game Changer here. Frame is all about balance between weight and durability
I guess i lot of Bags and stuff on my bike will make it so much more fun and agile...i guess manuals and bunny jumps will be so much better
I so nearly purchased the Fairlight this year, sadly my budget would not quite stretch that far. I ended up with a Genesis Tour De Fer instead, which is a nice bike but not the Fairlight.
The Priority Apollo 11 gravel bike for mixed terrain touring!
A bike for pavées/cobblestones?
Wagon wheels seem a bit too far, but in the right direction.
Rohloff gears, belt drive, hydraulic disc brakes, dynamo lighting
How about a pinion 18 speed
Did have Raleigh tour bike ride in 90s that bike was very good bike talk me round . Was best one never add and still have Raleigh
Thanks for advice ❗️from germany jft ❗️👍
How about the Santos Travelmaster 3+ rohlhoff? :-)
Would love to see it compared too the Koga!
Greetings from the Netherlands.
I'd love to see a video on the TM3+!
Great content as always ! Keep on going !
Just found your channel and loving it 😊
Looking into that fairlight, could be a good fit. Wondering how you think it would do as a bit of an all arounder - primarily commuting since the daily, but also afterwork gravel/allroad/light singletrack rides and weekend bikepacking ?
It's a pretty ideal all-rounder. Go a bit wider with the tyres and just adjust the tyre pressure depending on the terrain. You could even have two sets of tyres (or wheels) for different surfaces. 👍🏻
All sounds good except all the bike shops around here can't get any bikes. I was at a shop today and the shop would not take any money to order a bike. They simply said they can not even put orders in. Dam.
velomobile. I would love to get your input on it. the milan sl is the way to go:)
Yes! I love recumbents!
Thank You for sharing update of the news in bikepacking bikes market. I've recently ordered Faran 2.0 frameset to build up a bike I'd need. Variant geometry was one of main selling point for me.
While watching Your video, it got to mine attention that KHS Grit has a low gear ratio as well. I am deciding what drivetrain to use on Faran, so I am taking examples of other branded bikes combinations. I see, that KHS 48/32 chainrings and 11-42 casette give a total deraileur capacity of 47T while the Shimano states, that GRX 810 rear deraileur maximum capacity is 40T.
My question, how is this possible to use this combination whilst exceeding capacity limit by 7T ? Is it safe to use ? (I assume, in this case, it's better not to accidentally go large to large combo here). Any modifications required to use these parts ?
ThankYou
if you can swing it , go for the sealed gearing hub from rohloff ..
Can't wait to see a bike with Kindernay IGH.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the new Knolly Cache.
I watch this channel, but I won't spend more than $1000 on a full bike.
The highest I have spent so far is $150.
I have 12 bikes, but I don't see the need to spend all that on one bike.
Hey, we love watching your videos and we're now planning our own bikepacking adventure but we're struggling to agree on a tent for us to share! Do you have any recommendations?? Any ideas would be much appreciated!
I've got a tent resource on my website. It's a bit old but you should get something out of it! www.cyclingabout.com/bicycle-touring-tents/
@@Cyclingabout that's great! Thanks so much!
That khs is my argument for 2x . Why not always go ever wider!?
Thanks for another informative video. But I need a video that focuses on just bikes for touring with front and back panniers, a Rohlof hub with low gear for climbing hills, gates belt drive, wide tires of about 2.2 to 2.5, strong frame with fairly low top frame bar, upright comfortably seating, strong enough for four full panniers, and superb brakes. I have watched your video on the tout-terrain Silkroad and that bike seems perfect but are there other similar bikes for comparison? Please Help!!
Check out my KOGA WorldTraveller video: www.cyclingabout.com/new-bike-day-2020-koga-worldtraveller-touring-bike/
Plus my list of Rohloff bikes: www.cyclingabout.com/list-of-rohloff-bike-models-for-touring-and-bikepacking/
It's cool that you used Jeff Jones' footage but didn't include his bikes, I'm sure you checked with him if that was cool
I didnt know that you coult pare the grx with a 48 casette on a 2 by setup. nice
I am interested in the priority 600 .. or any of those with that pinion box ..y did you leave out pinions jw
Great video. Give me your professional opinion as to why someone would put all your gear on a bike instead of using a simple trailer that is much easier to carry gear on.
Trailer is heavier, and harder to negotiate cities, turns, etc. Plus more stuff to maintain.
First time commenter, I reckon your video’s are amazing and informative cheers
Glad you like them! 😊
I thought you would mention the Priority. Oh well, good video.
"Right up my Alee" Not sure how to take that one...
Hey, nice research. Can you check the Niner Sir 9 2-Star SRAM SX Eagle or the 3-Star SRAM GX Eagle about their bikepacking suitabilities. That´s the one I put my focus on
Great channel this.
I was researching the KHS 440 Grit, the Australian Dealer has the rear cassette at 34 teeth not the 42 teeth mentioned in the video. Is this an option that can be specified at the time of purchase.? The 21 inches gearing at 700c wheel size is appealing as I would like to get up those mountains with less stress in comparison to a 53/39 running 12/27 road bike, near 40 inches...
Can you do a review of Priority 600 and 600X bicycles. Ryan Van Duzer is good but wish there are more technical infos: gear inches, high and low end speeds, max tire sizes with and without fenders, option for drop handlebar and road shifters and brakes, front and rear rack capability, cargo caring capacity, and can it handle the Great Divide Trail.
The gear inches for the pinion 12 on the priority x are easy to find online
@@26realmc I tried to find it but couldn't.
@@danstenis660 check the pinion website
Is it good to choose walkie X3 pro bicycle for world travel.plz reply...
Have you seen the Lauf forks/bikes. It looks a very interesting idea
Yep, we will be discussing Lauf in an upcoming video all about fork comfort.
@@Cyclingabout great!
Oh, you are Aussie!😊