Are Landlords Too Greedy 😡 Landlord & Renter DEBATE The Housing Crisis | Hash It Out
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
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Welcome to another episode of Hash It Out! This week we host an hotly contested debate between a landlord and a renter as we take a look at the housing crisis in the UK.
Are landlords too greedy? Are renters being unfairly treated? And what is the solution to the housing crisis in the UK? Find out in the latest episode of Hash It Out on IGV Presents!
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Chapters:
00:00-00:27- Intro
00:27-01:41- Do landlords need more help to evict renters?
01:41-04:00- Should landlords be able to charge whatever they want
04:00-05:43- Should there be a limit on how many properties landlords own?
05:44- 06:56- Should renters be responsible for the upkeep of properties?
06:57- 07:32- Are landlords renting out dangerous properties?
07:33- 09:07- Do landlords get an unfair reputation?
09:07- 11:05- Conclusion
11:05- 11:30- Preview of Monogamy vs Polyamory
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Im a renter but my logic keeps me on the side of the landlord. The renter in the debate had ambitious and utopian ideas without understanding basic economics and reality.
Everybody hates the real estate market but when they list their own house for sale what do they do? List it as high as they can and go with the highest bidder!
@@TonyCox1351
What's wrong with that? What would you do?????
@@zhaw4821 What would I do? Well I wouldnt complain about landlords in the first place that way I wouldnt be a hypocrite
@@TonyCox1351
I agree. Everyone is trying to do the best for themselves. I say ....DON'T be jealous of the landlords
The landlord might be right, but it doesn't mean it makes him a nice person.
As a landlord this women is the definition of a nightmare renters stay away from this
I’m trying to figure out where is she going to live while saving all of this money to buy a house. P.S. If she want the government to provide housing, that’s called section 8 vouchers or housing projects.
I'm trying to figure out how landlords cry poor yet have enough money to buy multiple houses.
@@dhenderson1810 They actually take money from a bank in form of a loan that they pay Interest on , you stupido...!!!! Have you even went to school for more than 4 years ???
@@dhenderson1810because you get idiots that don't pay rent and think they are the center of gravity and all costs should cater to them. Then the landlord not only doesn't make a salary, but is in the negative.
Meanwhile the renter is probably on benefits or a basic 9-5 and out on a weekly bender. Then you have red tape costs on top of that.
@@dhenderson1810
We get second and third houses with a lot of work and sacrifice. No BS
She thinks the government should provide housing but I bet she would not want to live in government housing...
Or pay the necessary taxes ( maybe another 20-25% more on your gross income ). so that the government will actually have the money to build them.....!!
That is the whole issue, people want more with doing less. She has the "right" to cheap stuff no one wants
Government housing won't get built because of NIMBYs.
She really is a terrible representative for renters. No clue how the world operates
So you have no problem with a landlord who doesn't care less that your relative died.
He lacks human empathy.
Yes! Maybe she thought the show was called "Uninformed Debate"!
@@dhenderson1810 do you think the lender will care if the land lords relative died?
@@dhenderson1810they should there should be a safety net to help tenants what problems with rent. If the person who died is the main rent payer the landlord should take that into consideration and the government sure help. That is a lot of rent money to forgo. Landlords have to pay everything on time or they pay a fine right? So these felt safe measures show step in to help tenants. Landlords have a limit what they can do.. I've taken six homeless people in my only three family home during the pandemic. The building's only 55 years old. Two gave me something the others are let's stay for free. Two of them were deadbeat fathers obviously scamming the system by sleeping in the subways in NYC. I took them in because the Subways where closed for 6 or 7 months and had no place to stay so I try to help being a housing and homeless activist since the late 70's. 2 left because they became hoarders. Now I got threatening me and I have have some on video tape. They've changed the locks so I have no access to my building materials and appliances. 2 years ago took me, if I take him to housing court he'll just simply fall down the stairs answer me this is coming from an undocumented man from South of the border. Boy they they the American ways very😊 and I saved him his daughter's boyfriend and his mother from picked up by ICE and that would deport them. They show no thanks. And the other one named Ray 1 Mayor de Blasio in 2020 I closed the Subways down and then thankfully offered hotel space to the homeless. Ray refused to go and threaten me saying he'll get one of his friends at the local pizza store to change my mind. So 4 months later February 2021 the pizza store owner had ramed the store door twice shattering my meniscus. Medical bills were over 135,000. Thank goodness we have Medicare it pays about 80 percent. Worst thing the police refused to make a police because they're good friends with store owner. It'd be a conflict of interest. That's the American justice for you home of the brave and the home of the scammers and squatters.😢😢. He and Roberto both occupying two 6 room apts I'm changing the locks preventing me from coming in a check the floods and other property damages they caused in the kitchen and two living rooms. I'm a 72 old who has been recently disabled and permanently crippled on the whole leg. When does owner destroyed my meniscus cartilage and I can't walk well at all without pains with every step l talk. I've been so depressed and hopeless I can hardly walk. I'm sure it was from one of Rays friends. A well-known pizza store owner. I went until the police to over 30 police meetings for the past two years to bring this attack on me and none of the police showed any compassion. Talking about the blue wall of silence. So the whole system is corrupt individuals are still living here coming close four years. Like my friends tell me I'm a mench, or no good deed goes unpunished. This is driving me close to ending it all. I just not worth it to be a bridge over troubled water for other people. I'm not enjoy the rest of my few years I got left because I'm a slave to these bastard tenants
@@dhenderson1810 again you ..!!! My grocery store lacks human empathy ...so does my gas station , my bank, my employer( i can't say, i won't come to work for 1or 2 or 3 months because somebody died in my family ....maybe a can take a few days off ) , let's see what else....oh .. my government taking my taxes every month, my mortgage bank, my car loan bank , my insurance company. my plumber , my electrician....i can go on, and on...!!! They ALL say ...i can empathize with you ....But you'll have to pay Sir...!!!
her mind would change if she was the landlord. tell her to go buy a house and rent it for less than her payments. then have to work 80 hours a week to pay taxes and upkeep on it on top
If the money you bring in are less than your expenses, time to sell.
Why keep a property you are making a loss off?
@dhenderson1810 why you'll never meet a liberal landlord. They will complain all day and night about rent prices but not 1 will ever buy a house and rent it cause they know they won't get paid or make money
@@dhenderson1810 do you live in a house with the expectation that the house will be giving you profit? or is the cost to own the house? landlords out here crying that they cant make money off of someones salary, its kind of pathetic, like a winging baby.
Then don't own extra property you don't need 💕
The tenants don't have any problems when they want to get the a job that pays the most money... no different from landlords that wants the most for their properties...
Producers of this video: we need to find the most unrealistic person we can find to play the role of renter.
Mission accomplished!
As landlady of 50 years... The majority are like her
The landlord seems like an actor too, with his hand movements and mannerisms.
@@zhaw4821Do you try to negotiate with the tenant, so that you get what you want but what they can afford as well.
Good renters are hard to find. So when you get them, you should hold onto them for dear life.
@@dhenderson1810 Good renters are 10% ....so i have to deal on a daily basis with 90% that are shitty , and make my life a hell, and require a lot more work and time to deal with them.........therefore i will charge them 25-40 % more in rent , then otherwise...!!!
Actually, that is literally their mindset for the ones that complain, they live rent free in their heads
He is absolutely right that there isn’t enough housing supply. Also considering how poorly the government deals with most important things, like this landlord mentions council housing, I do not think the government is qualified to deal with building houses en masse. Have you seen the recent rash of new builds?? Tragic quality.
Well, if landlords are restricted to owning one rental property, then he has to sell the others and people can buy them to live in.
It would free up more houses.
No one needs to own more than two houses.
@@dhenderson1810 not everyone can afford to buy and have a home we own our own house and it is a nightmare sometimes in repair, maiteance labor for such and costs of repairs nad replacment of applicances etc. many can only afford rent, rent around here from what I gather is like 1200 or so per month but mortgages are 1800 plus. insurnce costs, property taxes keep going up, our taxes went up three times almost 3 times as what we used to pay due to all t he building and development. some people have bad credit and cant get a loan for a house renting is their only option my brother finallybought his own house, he rented for years since he had such bad credit, it is a very cute house too.if someone who ha money cant buy houses that are available as you say due to ony two house rule, how many will stand unsold or empty?
@@dhenderson1810 I can say also, that no one needs to make more than 30,000 a year , or own more than 1 acre of land, or have more than 1 car , or 3 pair of shoes, not more than 4 shirts , and 3 pair of pants, not more than 2 kids...i can go on, and on and on...!!!
@@dhenderson1810if landlords could only own one home it would make housing next to impossible for the majority of people that’s the sole reason landlords exist
@@josephhutchins8 Landlords seem to have money to pay for multiple houses.
The renter is so entitled, "you think it is morally ok to put people on the streets and make them homeless", what do you think happens to the landlords family if you dont pay rent?? (Saying this as a renter)
They may lose their extra house and get to go home to their own house and not be homeless lmao
Her heart is much, much larger than her brain. Ohhhhh, the entitlement.
And the guy is a complete sociopath.
I am all for affordable housing but this lady does not know how to make an argument for it.
this entitlement mentality of " i pay what i can afford" is for clueless people who has no idea on whats going on on the housing market.... if mortage is 1500.00 and tenant can only offord 800.00 ,, clearly this tenant cant live in the property... geez.
Its crazy that this even needs to be explained😂
but whats crazy is the person crying that they need a tenent to pay their mortage for them so that they can keep the house they dont live in. it seems like living beyond ones means, or the worry of the landlord becoming a renter.
she certainly doesn't seem like she's struggling to feed herself.
3:06 girl, if you RENT IT ISN'T YOUR HOME
Get job is one of the most ignorant comment I have heard. Properties do not maintain themselves and it takes time and money to manage and maintain which requires time and skill that should be compensated for this. A very high percentage of tenants would not be able to handle these responsibilities themselves.
the landlord doesnt handle this issue themself. they rely on the tenents income, and usually other workers to do the actual work, they just make demands and utilize the tenents subsidy for their lifestyle...
@@USER06584B Only an ignorant tenant that has never had responsibility would say that because to many tenants take to much for granted when it comes to the maintenance of the property and therefore think that being a landlord is easy money, which is far from the truth.
Many people meet these responsibilities when they own their own home.
@@dhenderson1810 exactly, and you dont see regular home owners begging for income just for running their own house.
The landlord is the one who’s living in reality here. The woman is just whiny and has no real prescription for the issues she’s raising. She’s just spouting nonsense communist rhetoric.
she doesn't own property yet. once she becomes a landlord her energy will change.
But many landlords don't even try to make rent affordable.
They just have a God complex.
@@ponuniNot everyone becomes a landlord.
Some people actually live in the houses they buy.
I think everyone should be restricted to a maximum of one rental property (not counting their home if they aren't living on the rental property).
This will free up houses.
@@dhenderson1810After reading a lot of your comments as a renter myself in London but a staunch defender of free-market capitalism. I must say you are out of your mind. I empathise with renters across U.K and I can see an argument for regulating large companies from buying family homes. But you saying the government should restrict everyone to one home and one home alone sets a dangerous precedent. Why stop there why not restrict car ownership to reduce car prices huh? Why not reduce the amount of groceries people buy to make it more affordable? See how stupid you sound? We aren’t North Korea
If a tenant pays their rent on time and doesn't complain, there's no reason to evict. The only reason you're evicted is because you're a problem and landlords don't like problems. Stop being a problem. She's got plenty of money to get those nails done. That is a luxury.
So you don't know many renters who are model tenants but have awful landlords who don't want to maintain their properties to a decent standard but expect the renter to pay them?
@@icilmaa if you are a model tenant, why would you settle for a crappy landlord? In my experience as a landlord since 2005, model tenants and model landlords quickly find each other. Same is true for crappy tenants and crappy landlords.
Housing shortage? Yeah... for marginal tenants... you know, the ones with three unpaid collection accounts, an eviction from 4 years ago, and two pit bulls.... There is definitely a shortage of housing for marginal tenant... because they are marginal. No one wants to give them nice houses to destroy.
@@sidwhiting665 I am that model tenant. A landlord is not going to present themselves as crappy so plenty of renters believe in their landlords and don't expect that they're not going to keep to the rules stated in the contracts. You can only speak for yourself and your experience. I'm speaking on my experience and have rented way before 2005 so maybe the calibre of landlords is different. Where I live renting is very expensive. The average wage is not enough for the rents asked for decent property.
It’s odd because if she wants the government to take charge of housing, build houses, rent them out at a capped price, and give long notices before eviction, wouldn’t that increase government spending? This means it would cost the taxpayers more money. Consequently, she might not even get the house she dreams of. Moreover, with government housing, there could be lengthy waits for repairs.
Essentially, increased government expenditure could lead to a higher tax burden.
0:20 “Hopefully we’re about to hash it out nicely :)”
Narrator: They did not hash it out nicely
When renter does not pay and when the hot water tank breaks, how do you expect the land landlord to fix the water tank when the property taxes are high?
The uk doesn’t have property taxes but council tax paid for by the renter.
He has to by law.
If you can't afford property tax, you can't afford to buy another rental property.
Glad to see the comments are on the side of reality.
Reality has a way of asserting itself, even when people scream about their "rights".
Here's a funny fact: up until about the past 100 years or so, no one screamed about "rights" to everything being provided for them. The world was a much harsher place then. Only the recent explosion of wealth has create a sub-group of people who demand everything be provided for them as a "right". Such talk would've had people think you were genuinely crazy in the past.
Right are intangible: freedom, justice, equality of opportunity, equal treatment under the law. Those things are limitless in supply. Houses, food, healthcare, education, etc? Those are limited. You can't make a limited resource into a "right". People have tried and it has always failed miserably. It will continue to fail miserably, because as stated before... reality has a way of asserting itself.
Im going to be a real state investor and i agree with the landlord 100%
you mean your hope is to not be a tenent. lets be real you know the only way to make it is off unearned income/other peoples salary.
'I'm going to leech off the working class by getting property so someone else can't and I can charge them more' FTFY
Pro tip: live in your means and pay ur bills
When you live in an area that suddenly charges $3000 a month just because some people think that is appropriate and that is then you make...
We are just trying to have enough gas and storage
The reason housing is expensive is because homeowners want it that way, and they do it by making sure that zoning laws are written in such a way to where their housing values go up and not down. It's not because of landlords.
plus government regulations. a friend in california had to pay $30k for a $3k shed in his back yard
What's the difference between a landlord and a home owner?? Aren't they the same thing. And one of the purposes of owning a home is because it is a asset that appreciates not depreciate
@@ashleyirvin7350 I don't buy the appreciation narrative. Homes should actually go down against inflation because they require maintenance. Land values going up against inflation is the only thing that keeps their value up. So people do things to increase land values at the detriment of others.
As for your question. Home owners are people who live in the home while landlords are people who collect rent on property. They have different motivations, but their interests align in keeping house prices high.
@@rathelmmc3194 in my opinion homes appreciate because of supply and demand, population growth and inflation. Not to mention housing market interest rate. The main thing that drives up prices is supply and demand. There aren't enough places for the amount of people. One thing I've noticed though is that renters like to blame homeowners when it's the landlords that hog homes, taking homes off the market, there for increasing supply and demand.
@@ashleyirvin7350 it's supply and demand due to land though. People want to live in a specific location and that keeps housing up. As an example look at mobile homes and RVs. They all depreciate because the structures get old and require more work. Land keeps pricing up.
What a pity party is his woman throwing for herself. He is building houses. He is risking his own money. He has worked his ass off for his money!
Building houses and being a landlord are not the same thing. Landlords don't actually produce anything, they just own it and charge extra to people who can't afford to because renting and empty properties drives up the housing market. If you wanna build homes that's amazing, sell them to people who want to live in them.
This landlord actually seems like a good person
The fuck he is. He comes across as a complete sociopath.
This woman is delusional. She clearly doesnt know how the world works.
She thinks its okay for him to buy and build multiple properties but not make any profit from it. 😂 What planet is she on??
Shes arguing on her emotions and feelings and not reality. 😂
How many landlords are actually building new properties? Most are out bidding home buyers and then hoarding property off market to add to the rental and air bnb pool.
@@murrproductions9654They are spending their hard earned money on an investment.
@@murrproductions9654 A lot...but it's corporate and you hate them.......where i live in Chicago there are 5 building projects in a 1/2 mile radius , all for rent , with 12 to 20 apartments each..!! They are really expensive to rent , because are really expensive to build...!!!
@@murrproductions9654the issue is the huge costs, it makes it harder for the average small time investor to contribute here.
@@murrproductions9654 as a homeowner and landlord, how was I able to buy my own personal home without being outbid by a landlord?
The woman's argument points were...☠️
You should be allowed to build them but not make a profit 😂. Wtf is she on? Do this thing for me, but don't have any incentive to do it. She is crazy to he honest. I get her frustration, but daddy government is not the answer.
the landlord isnt usually the builder, those would be the construction people. the landlord holds a title and hopes someone else will cover their expenses.
@@USER06584BOften they show up at auctions and buy off already built houses.
So I’m a small time landlord (1 unit so far). Landlords need to be able to charge as much as possible but without screwing the tenant. A lot of thought went into how much to charge, how long the lease needs to be, what the landlord/tenant rights are, etc. We (landlords, generally) are just like McDonalds or any other business: providing services and products to a needy clientele. I was open to hearing what the renter had to say, but ultimately she should move to Cuba if she wants what she had demanded.
or austria. cause austria would make people realize that maybe having landlords are a problem. they have affordable government housing that spacious, filled with amenities, walkable etc. theres also singapore. but i know you picked cuba to be nasty, without even ever seeking to understand cuba, or understand why they even face what they face economically.
This landlord sounds decent…I appreciate his realness on slum lords and overall disgusting landlords
Rent controls don't work, but increasing supply does. A landlord's net income won't be as lucrative as this woman seems to think; outgoings include mortgage payments, outstanding loans from building projects, maintenance, staff, and income tax.
There isn't a shortage of housing, many are sitting empty and drives up the prices artificially. The problem is people hoarding homes they don't need to live in and treating it as a business instead of a necessity.
One side of this table is living in reality and the other lives in lala land 😂
People need to learn to live within their means. If all you can afford comfortably is a shithole, then rent a shithole until you can comfortably afford something better. People over here complain that they cannot make ends meet earning a McDonalds salary while living in a 3bdrm 1400sqft home. McDs gets you a 1bdrm apartment at best.
Well said,you can pay less rent but commute a long time nevertheless you don't see many people willing to do that. Also, if the rent is too high and your paycheck isn't enough than you can look fir another city or another job.
in the 70s you could buy a 4 bedroom house in the bronx for like 20,000, now people pay 20,000 annually as rent because of suppressed housing supply colludded for by big corporate landlords, as people hope to become millionaires as slumlords and feel so entitled as they suck on the teat of their tenents and the public crisis caused by the influence of corporate landlords on the housing market.
All minimum wage employees should give their children to adoption, understood.
@@Reddfrogg until the parent steps up, quits working with a bunch of teenagers taking fast food orders and gets a real job, then they and their children are going to live in a shithole. You got to handle your business and quit bitching about it to everybody else.
@@energydude1 I just don't get the continuous bashing of service and food workers.
If we landlords, instead of renting apartments and houses, we rented, say, medical equipment, we would be heroes. Even though we would be making much more money doing so. Years ago, I stopped referring to myself as "landlord", because of the negative connotations. I am "property manager".
I call myself the cleaning lady
You aren't a hero for running a business by any stretch of the imagination, unless you are doing some sort of charity with it.
What I dislike about landlords is that so many of them have this massively inflated view of themselves while having very poor customer service skills that wouldn't fly in the vast majority of other businesses.
I'm incredibly glad that I've owned for 20 years and never again have to deal with egotistical control freaks who think they are "heroes to the world" just because they rent out property and make money from it.
You think hoarding medical equipment and charging to use it is heroic? And if people can't afford it they what? Just die? That's the same point as housing. It's a necessary thing to survive and using it as a business is what's skyrocketing the housing market. Landlords have negative connotations because it's leeching off the working class and adding nothing to the table. You didn't build the house, most of the time landlords don't actually do any of the maintenance or work, if you hadn't bought the property someone else who actually needs it would've.
I'm a renter and still side with the landlord on this one. Property investors should not be held accountable for the shortage of houses, that's the government responsability.
Eviction can indeed be awful. At the same time if people cannot be evicted ever, there will be almost no apartments available for rent. People could be occupying multiple apartments and subletting rooms on the side.
There would be a justice to that... the subletters couldn't evict their terrible tenants either. Everyone thinks that being a landlord is easy until they have to try it themselves. One reason tenants are tenants... they don't know how to deal with other tenants!
If a tenant is paying rent on time, and doing everything as asked, why should they be evicted, when they have met the terms of the lease?
@@sidwhiting665If being a landlord is SO head, why continue to be one then?
I rather stay with my parents and contribute it's cheaper, and you can save more money so that one day you can buy a home. It's all about money management and patience and tolerance.
Thank you ..!!
While I feel bad for the renter, the landlord is completely right… it’s his/her property, no one has the right to steal or (squat) on another persons property. Landlords struggle too. Sometimes more than the tenants. Not all landlords are rich
Morally? This is an ECONOMIC issue. Not a "moral" one!
She’s really ignorant on how the free market works.
what makes a market free or unfree?
@@USER06584B free market is based on when the public or consumers set the market. Example…I decide to put up a 2b/2b for rent at $500 a month, and over 100 people apply in the first hour. They’re telling me that I’m asking too little for it.
So I put it up for $2000 a month and I get two people responding in a day. Sounds like I’m in the zone that the market is at.
Not a free market…is government dictating how much I am allowed to ask for rent.
@@USER06584Bgovernment regulations
His voice and attitude is very irritant nevertheless he has many valid points.
He is fed up listening to BS
Wow, I don’t have a house yet and I’m on the landlord side
I hope you'll get one , and once you do , at the end of each month , when you go through what it cost you to have it, and maintain it , you will be more on the landlord side , then you even think it's possible...!!!
@@bogdan78pop If it costs so much, then how do you make so much money to afford new houses?
You can't be hurting too bad financially to be able to afford one house, let alone more than one.
@@dhenderson1810I’m not sure you aware that landlords can have other businesses besides real estate.
Many areas in the USA have monthly property taxes that are the amount of a small rent. Then if they have a mortgage too, having rent not be paid will soon have the property seized. The tenants will be evicted either way.
gen z is messed up, she jumps from topic to topic
Maybe it is an editing issue
Most landlords were renters once, very liitle of the renters complaining have ever been landlords, some of my best tenants have been landlords or actually still landlords but their work took them to a different location, they are the best renters ever, because they know, whats all entailed in being a property manager.
Good video, would've been nice to have a longer video to hash the questions out a bit further.
She’s has terrible points
What’s not “fair” is she doesn’t want people be to evicted but is ok with them not paying to stay there.
He’s selling a product at the end of the day that’s all it is
So are drug dealers.
For me there was an opportunity for him to educate more:
- there’s legislation to evict and keep properties held to a decent standard
- there are so many certificates landlords have to obtain
- fire safety standards to meet
- development costs to recoup
- inflated house prices to pay
- licensing restrictions and insurances to pay
- builders/surveyors to pay
- and landlords still have to make a profit.
- tenants can claim rent repayment orders if any landlords do not provide a licensable property and also can claim if house isn’t up to standard (basically claim all rent back)
- council can fine landlords for lack of licenses or housing not to a good standard
Also don’t forget now, section 24 means private landlords are being taxed on revenue not profit. This is uniquely on the business no other business are you taxed on profit.
He was spot on for other parts, you want a product you pay for it. Apple don’t give you a free phone because you want it.
Housing should be a right but if a property isn’t provided by private landlords you see councils /housing associations are the worst as these are the most vulnerable of tenants and most are damp leaking etc
I think unfortunately she’s not clear on how to fund the ideas she’s saying. She’s sounding upset or just not informed and reacting more with sentiment rather than fact.
"Housing should be a right"
This is not correct. You cannot make a limited resource into a right. Let's say you make housing a right in a town of 100,000 people, but there are only enough houses for 90,000. Who choses the 10,000 that don't get housing? The only fair way is by who will sacrifice the most to get it (i.e. who will pay more)? That is the system we have now. That is why rents are high: lack of supply. Turning housing into a right doesn't build one more house. Only builders build more houses, and they are going to demand a profit to do so... which puts us back at where we are now: people who HAVE MONEY can BUY house. People who don't have money RENT houses and save until they can buy houses.
Also, what if you destroy your house? Are you still entitled to it? Do you have a right to your house if you never clean it and it gets infested with rats to the point it is uninhabitable?
That's the problem with limited resources: they are limited. You have to earn the right to possess them and take care of them to keep them. That is why they cannot be rights.
Right only apply to intangible things: freedom, equal opportunity to thrive, equal treatment under the law, freedom to speak your mind, freedom to worship the gods/God of your choice or to worship nothing at all.... those are limitless and so everyone can have them all at once. My ability to speak doesn't stop you, nor visa versa. But if there is one house and two of us... then one of us gets it and the other doesn't. That is reality.
@@sidwhiting665 What about those that cannot afford to rent? It's a right in terms of the council should provide housing for people. A right in the sense that everyone should be housed. Not that they can pick and choose where they live if given a house at a subsidised location.
It's only a limited resource because the government haven't paid builders to build. Of course a right to shelter is needed. Otherwise why do governments spend millions upon millions housing asylum seekers, why not just put them outside?
I do believe the right to shelter is a common right for anyone, and you can see that by governments housing people. I think you're thinking that they have a right to be housed and to choose where they live without paying anything, or turning down homes when offered them.
By your definition, anything limited is not a right, like food; access to clean water... It's just plain wrong.
A whole page dedicated to what I mentioned:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_housing
@@sidwhiting665 property taxes are unevenly distributed. in many parts of the us middle class neighborhoods pay higher property taxes than areas where there are mansions. theres a lot shenanigans in local governments.
you can blame a lot of that on corporate landlords as they incite class action suits which lead to pressures and regulations from the ftc and local governments. you can also blame them cause they wish to squeeze small landlords out of the market for monopoly power. but also small landlords dont need to make a profit, the rent is subsidizing your ownership, stop being greedy, and if you need money, do what most people do and get a job. if the money isnt enough, welcome to being normal and not a wannabe millionaire, or a slum lord that feels sorry for yourself.
@@USER06584B Not sure - I think that small landlords for now are supporting those that cannot get on the housing ladder and give people the opportunity. If they take a run down house, bring it up to code, make it safe and to spend time effort and money navigating the system why shouldn't they be able to get a reward for that?
It sounds like you're ok with big corps doing the same for a profit but not someone starting out? There are plenty of homes and opportunities for anyone to start, and do the same that's why these people are out there pushing the points.
This... Was.... WILD!!! The delusion and self-victimising in this child-woman is on an astronomical level. Just... wow. 🤯
Increasing supply just allows landlords to buy up more property and monopolise the market.
Ultimately, the way to make the most money is to buy all the stock and shut everyone else out, so they have to pay you to access it.
More housing just means more landlords building up their portfolios.
I bet you are a landlord.
All rent is limited to what the market will allow.
4:00 doesn’t she realise that the more houses one landlord owns the cheaper it is for the people living in them?
Hypothetically If I own 1 house costing me £1000 a month on bills, if I want to make £1000 profit I need to charge the person in that house £2000
Now let’s say I own 4 houses each costing me £1000 on bills, if I still only need £1000 profit the people in those houses would now only need to pay £1250 each as a profit of £250x4 is still £1000. If I had 5 houses they would only need to pay £1200, if I had 10 houses they would only need to pay £1100 etc.
I know F all about housing so could someone please give me the argument against this and/or why I am wrong?
There is no reason for the landlord to charge less than what they can get regardless of how many properties they own and what profit they are willing to make. So basically the landlord will charge as much as possible regardless of how many properties they have.
@@haydentomlin9783 but in theory I’m right
@@ThePinkAnt1 in theory yes but in practice no.
There is a lot of risk and trouble being a landlord so I don’t see any of them choosing to give their property away as I would call it if they were just to set a margin they were happy with, unexpected costs, Increase in interest rates etc are all possible. With shortages you can be inundated with people wanting to rent your property even at market value so personally landlords are more likely to be incentivised to try their luck and potentially narrow the list down of interested people. Also, just remember that the more money you are bringing in the better, you want to be paying off your mortgages or earning more to reinvest into more properties.
Landlord 1 : renter 0
This lady is insane!
what is up with people wanting to get things for nothing or practically nothing just because you cant afford the rents or prices of things, when did such things become the problem of others? your homeless for example because you cant afford some place or food or what not and you did not want to work. or refuse to take responsiblity, or spent your money unwisly how is that anyone elses problem? people can be compassionate no doubt and give some assitance but why do others owe anyone free or cheap rent, food etc to support them? where did the entitlement to others to support them? or provide cheap services at a loss? this all confuses me. tenants only have the high ground if the lease is be violated by the landlord. other than that they fail at their arguments.
how does she not get that he will be homeless if he doesn't pay the bills / bring any money in?
Big difference from large corporate landlords (owning 1,000s of properties) in large cities and smaller landlords and outskirts and towns (10 to 100s of properties).
It seems that the landlord is speaking from the outskirts- where rent could be $800-$1400 a month but the renter is talking as if she’s in a large city- where rent could be $3,000-$5,000 a month.
It is a job. She needs to find a shelter
This woman is delusional. She says you should be allowed to build but not make profit. So who would build in the first place..??
If a person is a landlord, they are a “CEO” of a “residential leasing business.” We’re glad we left the that part of the business alone a year ago.
So if i, lets say, inherit a house with 4 flats, i should let people live in there for free? 😂
I see expensive nails. Waste of money for someone who would like to be a homeowner. She wants a nice privately owned and maintained home, not a govt built and maintained dump, which is what you get for whatever aligns with your income.
Haha, these two are arguing while the only guilty party is the government.
Facts
@@kaelyn4063 🙏
The government is not your daddy. Figure it out for yourselves 😉
indeed it is; social engineering is now mixed up with the type of housing available, government and leftist electeds, want the 'smallest' possible housing size to be made available, 'not' what people want...
If you live in a 1 bedroom flat in London, a flat in West Drayton is £922 including bills. A flat in Mayfair is £4,500 plus you pay for your bills. The train from one to the other is 30 minutes and costs you £10 per day to travel anywhere and everywhere in London. So you can vote with your feet and live somewhere cheaper but probably not as nice but it has a bed, shower, kitchen and everything else you would need. The problem is the Leftist within the UK want both those flats to be £922 including bills each month.
You don't pay for service, you don't get service. That applies to literally every part of the economy. Landlord doesn't pay their bills, they lose their house. You don't pay rent, you don't get to live there. The same applies literally across the board. Why they think it's an exception?
God she makes zero sense
When I worked at a cell phone company we had people calling all the time to say that their mom died or whatever and they couldn't pay. It's the same with the electric bill. They actually have hardship clauses and grants at electric companies for exactly that sort of thing. This landlord doesn't seem to even know that...
How about your mortgage? What would the consequences be after a longer period of time?
Bro started talking loud immediately 😂
Frustrated with ignorance
she hands fries through a window for $20 an hour i bet and she complaining landlord charging too much for his labor to maintain the property
Landlords too greedy ? No, Gov't and banks. Mainly Gov't !
It is impossible to be both at the same time ?
It should be law that landlords must give a month's notice of eviction, so that the tenants can make other arrangements.
in usa they already do.
It takes multiple months to evict someone and they get 3 months notice.
@@chrisbaker2669 Or do what you do now, and push up rent do much that you know they can't pay, and kick them out early.
It's not like you care about your tenants, or that they are real people with real problems to you. They are just a meal ticket.
Didn't know that you exchanged your heart and soul for more rent money.
in usa it could take a year to evict someone. now they have a years mortgage to charge the next tenant.
@@dhenderson1810 Did you know that the cost of housing to buy has gone up way more than rent has? On a monthly basis renting is 40% cheaper than going and buying a new home. Rent as percentage of the home's value being rented has gone down.
Minimum wage, should not be higher than normal wages
That is not life, it's the end of life. I am not grateful to my landlord or property manager, it's their job and I expect them to do well just like my employer expects of me.
Sam Leeds 🤦🏼♂️ as my Mum would say; “it’s not what you say, it’s how you say it”
If a landlord cant afford to charge 30% of someones income, they shouldnt be a landlord....
If the renter cannot afford the rent they should live sonewhere else.
you know in many many parts of this planet many people double up; it is 'not' a right to have the housing type wholly based upon your choice...
Entitled much?
You don't own a pot to piss on , but know all the workings of a landlord..!! The 30% rule is to benefit the renter , so that the rent is not a burden.....also you realize that people pay 35% of their income in Federal and state and local taxes , and have no saying about it....!!!
@@bogdan78pop lots of people complain about taxes, but those go to local government employees, public service projects etc. the rent goes to servicing the owners debt in many cases. thats a big difference.
Tenants aren’t willing to do what it takes to be a landlord. They fixate on excuses.
I bought land with my student grant and put up an off grid cabin with credit cards (paid for Home Depot gift cards to contractor) then paid off my credit card instead of paying rent and then got a usda loan for a house then rented out the cabin and a room in my house and after two years of rental history on my taxes I will buy a multifamily in an affordable area and manage the manager. Do this a couple times and I’ll quit my 9-5 even if it took 10 years
This was an interesting debate between a Capitalist and a Communist. The Communist doesn't understand that the more you involve government in housing, the less housing you get and with that the higher prices.
She doesn’t have a house because she thinks people buy property in cash. hahahahahaha
I've been hearing way too many bad things about landlords even from my coworkers. I have the money to rent an apartment but my dad and I already own a home and we both pay an even "rent" of under 600 a month and I'm able to enjoy san fran on a weekly basis. If I ever have to move out 4 some reason I'd rather rent an RV than dealing with these landlords, especially when I'm free to go whereever I want.
the mom and pop ones can be nice, or they can be slumlords. the corporate ones can be the worst, especially if they are slum lords. not to mention they can expose you to asbestos and lead, with california being the number 1 state in the us for asbestos related incidents.
Dude you have no right to be a home owner if you feel the need to kick someone out instead of working out a payment plan to keep your tenants some landlord loose a lot of money for being asswholes
You will never be a Landlord with your mentality.......!!! NEVER..!!
Can some economist tell me why cars depreciate, and houses appreciate?
Houses are being used, lived in, so suffer wear and tear like cars do.
How does a house gain value when it is being used? Very few other things gain value like that.
The longer a house is around, the cheaper it should get, as it is being used, lived in.
Every time you drive a car it loses value, yet using a house gains it value.
You might say, people renovate houses, adding to its value, but if you pimp your car and get it repaired and add new tyres and a new battery, it doesn't suddenly add value to it, it still depreciates.
House prices are a rort.
Whenever there is a whinging renter.... i'd say: "Ok, renter. "
id say to that woman, buy a motherfkin house, somewhere you can afford. theres always places that cost dirt cheap out in rural, why fkin struggle to live in city where its fkin expensive as fk n u know ull get stuck
Who is the woman debating Sam here - there's no mention of her name in the vid or in the description box?!
It should be both. Not one sided. You shouldn't rent homes that are fucked up beyond recognition for 2,000 😤 . Secondly if they do have bad things to happen to them let them show you and you work with them. Some landlords do that because of decency. Its not all landlords but some.
Here's a fact from the US there are enough vacant houses here for every homeless person
Right off the bat she's trying to defend their irresponsible behaviors. She's blaming the landlord for her own deficits. As long as she maintains this victim mindset, she will have problems & those problems have zero to do with the landlord.
Honestly although they majority disagree it was very respectful and they both were willing to listen and there were few points they did in fact agree on. Neither of them personally attacked the other
yeeeeeaaaahhhhh.... life is gonna hit HARD for this girl, who's way too old to be this naive; honestly, the worst representative for renters, for real.
It’s not the landlord that’s the problem. It’s not the tenant that’s the problem. It’s the system that IS THE PROBLEM
But the greedy landlords can make money as they don't need the customer, as they can just get in another customer to pay the higher rent instead.
Instead of landlords coming on here and defending dodgy practices, call out the dodgy ones and then try to be better and more honest yourself.
Both parties have the right to negotiate what they think is fair.
The landlord should tell the renter that they have to raise the rent, but negotiate an amount that both can live with.
A lot deliberately make it high so that they can force out the tenant so the landlord's kid can live there instead.
Alright let me explain this to you. Think of renting like an auction. Let’s say you have a windows 7 laptop that you’ve used for 6 years and you want to sell it for £100. Someone bids £110 and another bids £200 and other bids £250. You’ll always sell to the highest bidder. Some flats aren’t worth the rent but if multiple people are bidding for a flat the landlord logically has to increase the price. As proof look at the price for rent in London the most populated city in England and Stoke-on-Trent the least populated city in England.
People should go directly to the banks and pay mortgage and cut out the landlords.
Drug dealers consider themselves business men as well. Doesn't make it morally right.
Just because you are selling something others want, doesn't mean you shouldn't have empathy, reasonableness and a sense of looking after the welfare of your customer.
It’s not your property. Tf. You aren’t entitled to a free house.
but the tenent is paying the landlords bills though... so is it not the landlord hoping for a free house in essence?
You can't tell me if a 1 room apartment costs 1,500 rent a month, that the landlord doesn't make several 100's percent of profit.
Taxes and mortgages have left the chat.
@@hakeemfrancis1099Maybe the landlord should cut down avocado toasts
Housing shouldnt be a speculitive instrument. £28bn in housing benefit is given to private landlords and corporations every year. Banks are state owned and mortgages should be backed by housing benefit. If landlords want to make money they should invest in the stock market.
What banks are state owned..???
@@bogdan78pop Natwest, Lloyds, RBS, Halifax, since 2008
its neoliberalism. a nexus of public-private partnerships. in other words, you pay taxes and the government pays the big corporations. so you basically pay the big corporations twice, you pay rent, and your taxes get redistributed among them.
Rich people don't care how much anything costs.
Well until I was 20 years old, I genuinely thought rent was lower than a mortgage. Because it just made no sense to me that you could have it that good.
The fact that if you buy a property and after a couple years youºre already making profit renting it out in practically everywhere just sounds too good to be true
But it is
Round two when!?