Really wish we could have seen how a 556 from a 20" barrel would fare as that's known for poking holes in AR500 armour. PLEASE!!!!! :) many people have gone and bought this armor and want to know
Imagine if a company realized they could make titanium armor which is lighter/stronger than steel and therefore would be competitive with polymer armor.
@@Bagginsess titanium is not lighter AND stronger than steel. Titanium alloys can have a higher *specific* strength than many steels, however the actual strength itself is usually higher for steels(obviously depending on alloy and heat treatment). Plus, titanium alloys generally have poor impact properties and low hardness compared to steels, making them less than ideal for armor.
@@tobyh3681 barely 😬 have seen other 3+ do much better with M193 from a 20”. Didn’t really instill great confidence that it would consistently stop it all the time though.
@@tobyh3681 that’s very true. Hopefully you never see that close with a 20”. The other I saw was 4 shots of M193 at 15-20 ft with an 18” at 3268 FPS. The chopping block CZcams channel.
Just found this channel in the last few months and it's become my “go to“ for info and entertainment. The honesty and wealth of knowledge is fantastic. Good work sir.
I'm got mines today that VSO for the discount code. Once I seen you light that amor up I was sold. Affordable and good quality. I live in northern California so hopefully it gets here on time.
I have never heard of companies shying away from AR550. Spartan Armor Systems and AR500 Armor both use AR550 steel, and CATI uses AR600 steel. Maybe I just haven't seen all the offerings. IDK
@@caliberarmor I'll say your spell coating is extremely well done, however can it survive being shot with 5.56 NATO 55 gr and 62 gr green tip out of a 20 inch barrel at 50 yards?
Which looks very similar to this spall coat, which is why I watched this vid, but yeah, Steel Ops's spall coat is still the best. 7.62 and .308 doesn't blow a big hole in it like this stuff. Still, this armor's spall coat is miles ahead of AR500's and the likes.
30-'06 a fudd caliber? That's not what she said! Now that's that out of the way....I do believe Mr. 30-'06 would have a bit of a problem, but I'd still like to know what kind of a dent 180+ grain anything would've done, along with a 12 gauge slug.
Thank you for this test, So informational! I just ordered for my son, you have gave me faith in this product. I especially liked the card board box around as I wanted to see where the deflection would go.
The edge shots seem to always be an issue, my buddy has a carrier from when he was in Iraq that is Kevlar lined, rated to 9mm by itself, plus rifle plates
Really interested in these plates as I just came across them and love the multi curve...it seems it’s a pretty aggressive curve at the bottom and in some pictures appears to really bulge out in the middle at the bottom. Is it too much to where it would be annoying and cause a large gap on your back and or be annoying on the front with magazines pressing against it?
Absolutely no problem with M855, so much so you cannot make that round go fast enough to get through. V50 was never reached as it is faster than 3500 fps. Don’t believe me, buy a set and shoot it all day long!
Do they make plates half that weight that can handle what you just put it through? That plate really took a beating. Thanks for taking the time to do the test and review and thanks to the armor company for sending them to you to show us what it was capable of.
After watching this video I would feel comfortable with wearing CA body armour for ballistic protection. I don't have a problem with the anti-spall shield separation because after the armour stopped a round (or rounds) it would immediately be replaced with a new one.
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When I'll body armor companies realize that spawling is bad and make a layer of kevlar in the anti spawling coat as a way to maximize the protection because as we all know now, spawling will get you faster than a bullet in metal plates if you take multiple rounds
But if you are taking that many rounds, the round that hit you some where not covered by the plate is going to be a bigger problem than spalling after more than one round.
Or just get a ceramic plate and your whole plate carrier set up with 2 plates and 3 ar15 mags weighs less than one of these plates by it self. They can be found for the same price as this plate.
FYI, ceramic plates exhibit fragmentation on the very first impact. They would fail the cardboard box test first shot. We sell those too if you’re so inclined.
As with any steel it's heavy and I think this is an 8lb plate. I've never had a multi curved plate however so does it carry different and/or more comfortable than a standard single curve...just curious?
I can't believe there are still idiots out there that don't understand that steel armored works and is no longer as heavy as it once used to be. My steel ops plates are like 5.5 lbs
but what happens when that spalling hit your face or your legs... yea i get that you dont have a hole in your body.. but now you have a shit load of cuts on your face or legs... and possibly bleed to death. i mean we saw the damage to the gopro case... what if that hit your face or eye...
Here's a test to try to replicate. How much damage would the human body suffer if a person was wearing the Caliber body armor you just used and the body armor was hit by 8 or 10 5.56×45mm NATO rounds or 8 or 10 7.62×39mm rounds? Even if the body armor catches all the rounds what damage would the shock wave from the impact of the bullets on the armor do to the human body? Would damage to the human body kill the person? Can you add more padding to the plate carrier to protect the person from the shock wave of the bullets" impact?
Wouldnt be too difficult to install an impact sensor. Some basics math that I cant give you and bring Bangor consult a trauma doctor and you have your answer
Jack Brown none. The most dangerous part is the spawling. Now perhaps shotgun slugs may be a different story.. but the transferable, internalized concussive force against AR500 and AR550 armor on the human body using intermediate rounds, even in the same spot wont transfer shockwaves into the body. “Maybe” if it was directly on the heart.. but you’f have to literally get hit in that same spot over and over and over for it to cause internal damage or get hit with a big ass slug or round such as 308 or 3006 . Id assume large calibers would be another story.. but your question of multiple intermediate rounds was the focus. That being said, after 1-3 shots, armor wearing people will get off the X and scoot elsewhere. So a continuous string of hits doesn’t really make sense.
All NIJ rated armors have to pass a maximum back face deformation & trauma protection. With a NIJ level 4 plate you can get shot by multiple 30.06 M2AP rounds(from a certain velocity, & distance) without killing you from blunt force trauma/shock.
There is but I haven't seen a single american armor manufacturer do this...which gives me a VERY sneaking suspicion since they actually do bother to use this method on ceramic plates, but never steel, seems intentional. The nylon wrap around ceramic also needs to be applied to the steel with the coating already on it, this will keep that coating on it and will only maybe loose small bits of the coat now and then. Only country I know that uses this method on steel is South-Africa, but rubber foam instead of the plain rubber coating
When they were on sale, my friend bought me two multi-curve 8x10 AR600 steel plates for 125 bucks from CATI; just recently they were on sale for 50 bucks each, and the 10x12 multi-curve plates were 60 a pop.
Does anyone have some literature on why these plates cannot be certified through NIJ? I’ve been looking around and can’t find anything. I see that they have been rated and tested, but not certified. They seem like solid plates, I am just curious at this point.
Seems like some badass armor, I have this sneaking suspicion it will be a $300+ plate though. Also it would be cool to see some full spec, (chronos at least 3,200 fps) M193 out of a 20" barrel
The VSO Gun Channel I’m not arguing which is better. You said you were shooting 308 and not -06 because you don’t dabble in fud calibers. I am saying they are both 30 caliber. All in good fun
I'd be willing to bet the .30-06 has put holes in more enemy soldiers, from WWI to present than any other caliber round. ...probably more than twice all others combined.
Bilal doha M855 cannot be made fast enough to penetrate that plate. The V50 is only listed as > 3550 as the projectile couldn’t be made to go any faster. The plate has also been tested with 7.62 x 39 API-BZ. I have not had the opportunity to try any of the 5.45 x 39 variants.
@@VSO_Gun_Channel I know how to get the license for machine guns but how do you learn how to manufacture one. I would love to do this kind of stuff one day without the atf kicking in my door or blowing up my firearms.
@@rockerdude8000 its illegal to modify a firearm to make it automatic. Unless you go through the 6 to 12 month process and pay out a lot of money just like a suppressor
@Farley Moab lololol at that point it's not even about stopping the bullet, it's absorbing the impact energy, you'll be wishing you had just got shot instead... shoot steel does make targets rated at >300yrds... but no padding #DIYweekend
hey vso, yt is removing my likes from your videos?? i remember watching this vid awhile ago, and droppin a like as i do every time i watch one of your vids. well, i went to rewatch, and no like?? just thought you would want to know..
I'm sorry, the statement near the end where you say AR500 would have been cooked through, I'm calling BS on... I have a sh!tload of AR500 steel that I've got hundreds of rounds of 223/556 193 on at close range and I do t have any holes in. I've hit it with both 30-06, 6.5CM, and 12ga shot, 00 buck, and slugs at 25, 50, 100 yards from with nothing more than a few dimples, that's 3/8" and 5/16" AR500.
Ah, let's play a game. What is the thickness of the steel plate in this video? Because its 550, we can get a plate at that thickness that will rate at NIJ Lvl III. What does that mean for the weight of the plates?
The VSO Gun Channel actually I’d like to know? Just a genuine question really. I’ve never shot it but I do shoot it’s larger brother 35 Whelen. It’s fantastic for when I hunt Alaska. Don’t know much of the 30-06 though.
@@thisisyourcaptin ,after Korea the military recognized how effective the -06 was against Chinese soldiers (like German and Italian before) but wanted a round that worked in a shorter action and wanted the general soldier to carry more rounds into combat b/c of changing battlefield techniques. The .308 (7.62x51) was born. The two are basicly brothers. Then going into Vietnam the 5.56 became the darling of the pentagon. But, the 7.62 family still sees action around the world. The -06 after WWI and again after WWII and then after Korea saw a surge in the civilian markets as guys were coming home and wanted hunting rifles in a caliber they knew. From a ballistic standpoint there is no game in North America that the -06 can not take and is still taking. You can buy saboted rounds to ultra light grain rounds to 200+gr rounds currently for the venerable .30-06 today. Oh and you can buy surplus AP rounds that put perfect holes in steel. As for recoil...my 128lb, 70 year old mother uses a cut down stocked remington 700BDL in -06 as her go to hunting rifle year in and year out for the last 45yrs.
lot of nonsense here - 6 round and the coating comes off that not impressive or any better than any body else uh u shoot 100 rounds at the armor and think the the best armor I have seen ar500 armor on youtube before level 3+ was even produced take 100's or rounds so no big deal - nothing new to see here - ar500 ar550 and ar600 if its level 3 and all performs the same if its level 3+ all three armor times perform the same nothing new here spalding coats from all the manufactures take about the same damage maybe some kevlar sheet placed in the vest would do the same or add protection but nothing new
Ok, I found this video after looking at Caliber's web site (no mailing list either?) I think you where confused speaking about the ar500 & ar550 that most stayed away because its to brittle , you surely most have meant ar650. To me and what I saw in the video this Caliber armor "Failed" not because of the metal but rather the poor or lack of a bond of the anti-spawl resin to metal plate , as you can see every time the entire anti-spawl layer pealed off as a whole and not just the effected area, this could also be caused by the preparation of metal prior to applying the resin anti-spawl IMHO. I did find the extra curvature interesting (I assume it mite be more comfortable then other brands) particularly if someone isn't running side plates but that swimmers cut plus the curves you'd have to find or have made a custom plate carrier. If the Manufacturer Caliber Armor could fix this anti-spawl bonding issue it mite be worth looking at again. While this video shows you put allot of rounds downrange , I have to agree with the other posters comments that this test was of smaller caliber and short slow barrels. Yes, there are a lot of pistols & 223/556, 762/308 around BUT there are lots of very common real guns out there also of larger caliber (including your "fudd" 30-06 and others). This video was defiantly meant to favor the manufacturer for demo video but a better advertisement is a manufacturer willing to show their plates being hit by larger then rated ammo to show the failing points , back deformation, edge failures, an anti spawl control , as a buyer that is something I always look for since I want to know how far I can push the rig when needed. Don't get me wrong I appreciate anyone willing to test products and share those videos for public to view, so thank you for posting the video and the manufacture Caliber armor for supplying you the plates to test.
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Why do youtubers say spalling when they mean deflection??? Spalling is when the back of the target becomes frag. Like when you blow a small hole in concrete but the backside blows out in a cone shape. That's spalling.
Look up the definition of the word spall. It means to break up into smaller pieces. When a round is defeated by Steel it shatters and blasts out in a cone. The coatings are also usually called antispall by the manufacturer
@@VSO_Gun_Channel it's different when you're talking about projectiles. I first learned about spalling in EOD. Here's an example: "HESH is High Explosive Squash Head. Its a charge meant to create spall(small fragmentary pieces of metal from the inside of the tank itself) without actually penetrating the tank or whatever."
@@edjecollins4141 you're the first person I've met who seems to go by a different dictionary than everyone else. We're talking about body armor, not EOD.
Don’t forget the affiliates page has a CA discount.
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Really wish we could have seen how a 556 from a 20" barrel would fare as that's known for poking holes in AR500 armour. PLEASE!!!!! :) many people have gone and bought this armor and want to know
30'06 is a fudd caliber? Sounds like you just have M1 Garand or BAR envy...... :D
It blows my mind that very few armor companies have metallurgists to tell them how to properly make armor.
Imagine if a company realized they could make titanium armor which is lighter/stronger than steel and therefore would be competitive with polymer armor.
@@Bagginsess titanium is not lighter AND stronger than steel. Titanium alloys can have a higher *specific* strength than many steels, however the actual strength itself is usually higher for steels(obviously depending on alloy and heat treatment). Plus, titanium alloys generally have poor impact properties and low hardness compared to steels, making them less than ideal for armor.
Really wish we could have seen how a 556 from a 20" barrel would fare as that's known for poking holes in AR500 armour.
Mrgunsngear did a vid of exactly that with this same 550 armor, the armor did it's job and stopped it.
@@tobyh3681 barely 😬 have seen other 3+ do much better with M193 from a 20”. Didn’t really instill great confidence that it would consistently stop it all the time though.
@@JGoodZX6R At 15ft though? I'm satisfied with those results just fine out of a 20 at basically point blank.
@@tobyh3681 that’s very true. Hopefully you never see that close with a 20”. The other I saw was 4 shots of M193 at 15-20 ft with an 18” at 3268 FPS. The chopping block CZcams channel.
@@tobyh3681 Iraqveteran8888 did a video with spartan armor with m193 at 10ft and it barely made a scratch on their ar550 plate
Need to try 30-06 AP please. Someone surely has an 06
Just found this channel in the last few months and it's become my “go to“ for info and entertainment. The honesty and wealth of knowledge is fantastic. Good work sir.
I'm got mines today that VSO for the discount code. Once I seen you light that amor up I was sold. Affordable and good quality. I live in northern California so hopefully it gets here on time.
Tend to agree on 30-06 being impractical for combat, but it is an exceptional hunting round.
Good test and I have to say I’m extremely impressed with it . Definitely the best Iv seen . Thanks for putting it through it’s paces mate.
Looks like those are some decent plates... Good video!
I have never heard of companies shying away from AR550. Spartan Armor Systems and AR500 Armor both use AR550 steel, and CATI uses AR600 steel. Maybe I just haven't seen all the offerings. IDK
They do, we just do it better. We offer a multi-curve that has less metal fatigue. 😎
@@caliberarmor I'll say your spell coating is extremely well done, however can it survive being shot with 5.56 NATO 55 gr and 62 gr green tip out of a 20 inch barrel at 50 yards?
@@Megames2012 Yes, we've tested M855 at 3500 fps at 50 FEET.
@@caliberarmor I do not doubt that, however do we have a video? Hopefully shooting your plates with M855 and M193?
@@caliberarmor wouldnt that triple curve increase the risk of a ricochette as opposed to a single curve?
Strongest armor Ive seen so far
Its nice to see some new innovations in the armor industry. Great vid 👍
I wonder if you excessively taped the plates sides would it give the Spall coating more lifetime...
Steel Ops still has the best spall coating that I have seen to date.
Which looks very similar to this spall coat, which is why I watched this vid, but yeah, Steel Ops's spall coat is still the best. 7.62 and .308 doesn't blow a big hole in it like this stuff. Still, this armor's spall coat is miles ahead of AR500's and the likes.
Mans aim is a 85/100. nice shooting bro
Now that’s real armor!
30-'06 a fudd caliber? That's not what she said! Now that's that out of the way....I do believe Mr. 30-'06 would have a bit of a problem, but I'd still like to know what kind of a dent 180+ grain anything would've done, along with a 12 gauge slug.
Thank you for this test, So informational! I just ordered for my son, you have gave me faith in this product. I especially liked the card board box around as I wanted to see where the deflection would go.
7.62x39 has less energy, but moves slower so it 'pushes' the object more.
I’ll bet dollars to donuts CA loves seeing this kind of information. “Oh that’s what it takes to knock of the coating. Let’s see if we can fix it.”
NY is pushing to ban vests
I think the carrier should be made of a material to stop the fragments from escaping too
It is, it’s called nylon
@@VSO_Gun_Channel but it still passes through. Why not Kevlar
Robert G it’s expensive and unnecessary
The coating on the plate stops the fragments. You'll notice nothing came through until the 6-9th shot.
The edge shots seem to always be an issue, my buddy has a carrier from when he was in Iraq that is Kevlar lined, rated to 9mm by itself, plus rifle plates
Plate is way to small for your frame !! Looks like a good plate but what dose it weigh ??
God gave me 2 lungs
That plate was 8.5 lbs
Really interested in these plates as I just came across them and love the multi curve...it seems it’s a pretty aggressive curve at the bottom and in some pictures appears to really bulge out in the middle at the bottom. Is it too much to where it would be annoying and cause a large gap on your back and or be annoying on the front with magazines pressing against it?
Hi, thanks for the video and the test: very usefull to understand the real effect for antispalling cover. I’m going for them!
I’m wondering how an m16 with m855 will fare. Apparently that extra barrel length has a tendency to push m855 through armors
Jukka B - I definitely want to see m855 out of a 20 inch barrel. And some armor piercing rounds.
Absolutely no problem with M855, so much so you cannot make that round go fast enough to get through. V50 was never reached as it is faster than 3500 fps. Don’t believe me, buy a set and shoot it all day long!
Caliber Armor - will it stop M855A1?
Up close 55grn m193 is faster out of a 20 in and actually more likely to punch through(m855 does better at distance)
@@peterv1318 We have not had the opportunity to test against that threat. Sounds like a good test to perform.
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Shall we ask clint smith about “Fudd Calibers “ 😉
“Little quilted jackets” is a great video.
@@VSO_Gun_Channel Really wish we could have seen how a 556 from a 20" barrel would fare as that's known for poking holes in AR500 armour.
So the M1Garand was a fudd gun?
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Who else is pooping lets take a pole
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Do they make plates half that weight that can handle what you just put it through? That plate really took a beating.
Thanks for taking the time to do the test and review and thanks to the armor company for sending them to you to show us what it was capable of.
If we could we would. We are trying to stay at a price point that makes our armor obtainable.
Caliber Armor I completely understand. Your product took a beating and your asking price is very reasonable.
After watching this video I would feel comfortable with wearing CA body armour for ballistic protection.
I don't have a problem with the anti-spall shield separation because after the armour stopped a round (or rounds) it would immediately be replaced with a new one.
Felix Cat that is exactly right. The coating is good for 6+ shots, if you’re still getting hit after that you’re probably tied to a tree.
@@caliberarmor That is what I try to tell peeps, but most peeps don't seem to understand common sense.
Hopefully between 6 - 9 rounds you find somewhere else to be 😂😂😂
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that's why regular people joining territorial defense forces of Ukraine even without any basic protective gear and body armor simply because they're patriots and fighting for freedom‼️🇺🇦
is anyone here willing to help with SAPI plates level 4 to protect Ukrainian people's lives???
I ordered my plates now for the plate carrier...
When I'll body armor companies realize that spawling is bad and make a layer of kevlar in the anti spawling coat as a way to maximize the protection because as we all know now, spawling will get you faster than a bullet in metal plates if you take multiple rounds
But if you are taking that many rounds, the round that hit you some where not covered by the plate is going to be a bigger problem than spalling after more than one round.
@@davidreeder1544 true, however it's a problem that must be solved
Or just get a ceramic plate and your whole plate carrier set up with 2 plates and 3 ar15 mags weighs less than one of these plates by it self. They can be found for the same price as this plate.
FYI, ceramic plates exhibit fragmentation on the very first impact. They would fail the cardboard box test first shot. We sell those too if you’re so inclined.
As with any steel it's heavy and I think this is an 8lb plate. I've never had a multi curved plate however so does it carry different and/or more comfortable than a standard single curve...just curious?
Fragmentation and Spalling are different things.
I went to this company when I sick of AR500’s bullshit lead times. 6 months AR500 for 2 plates. Ridiculous.
Would love to see spawl with the 308
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seeing how everyone has 3 month lead times, this company is a good choice for 0 lead time on certain armor packages.
I can't believe there are still idiots out there that don't understand that steel armored works and is no longer as heavy as it once used to be.
My steel ops plates are like 5.5 lbs
but what happens when that spalling hit your face or your legs... yea i get that you dont have a hole in your body.. but now you have a shit load of cuts on your face or legs... and possibly bleed to death.
i mean we saw the damage to the gopro case... what if that hit your face or eye...
Here's a test to try to replicate. How much damage would the human body suffer if a person was wearing the Caliber body armor you just used and the body armor was hit by 8 or 10 5.56×45mm NATO rounds or 8 or 10 7.62×39mm rounds?
Even if the body armor catches all the rounds what damage would the shock wave from the impact of the bullets on the armor do to the human body? Would damage to the human body kill the person?
Can you add more padding to the plate carrier to protect the person from the shock wave of the bullets" impact?
Wouldnt be too difficult to install an impact sensor. Some basics math that I cant give you and bring Bangor consult a trauma doctor and you have your answer
Jack Brown none. The most dangerous part is the spawling. Now perhaps shotgun slugs may be a different story.. but the transferable, internalized concussive force against AR500 and AR550 armor on the human body using intermediate rounds, even in the same spot wont transfer shockwaves into the body.
“Maybe” if it was directly on the heart.. but you’f have to literally get hit in that same spot over and over and over for it to cause internal damage or get hit with a big ass slug or round such as 308 or 3006 . Id assume large calibers would be another story.. but your question of multiple intermediate rounds was the focus.
That being said, after 1-3 shots, armor wearing people will get off the X and scoot elsewhere. So a continuous string of hits doesn’t really make sense.
It would hurt a lot less than getting punched in the chest
All NIJ rated armors have to pass a maximum back face deformation & trauma protection. With a NIJ level 4 plate you can get shot by multiple 30.06 M2AP rounds(from a certain velocity, & distance) without killing you from blunt force trauma/shock.
Theres got to be a way to make the anti spall coat stay on longer, aside for that these plates seem awesome.
@@GD-lw9yv looks like steel ops armor got it right.
It still didn't pop off until the plate was hit multiple times that's pretty good in my book.
There is but I haven't seen a single american armor manufacturer do this...which gives me a VERY sneaking suspicion since they actually do bother to use this method on ceramic plates, but never steel, seems intentional. The nylon wrap around ceramic also needs to be applied to the steel with the coating already on it, this will keep that coating on it and will only maybe loose small bits of the coat now and then. Only country I know that uses this method on steel is South-Africa, but rubber foam instead of the plain rubber coating
That’s some damn tough stuff!
Why does CA only offer the swimming cut not the sapi cut on there armor?
Pretty sure I live 30 mins away and have M1 so if you ever want to try 30.06 I got you.
Great video, but do they do these plates in men's sizes?
129 for 10x12 not bad 🇺🇸
When they were on sale, my friend bought me two multi-curve 8x10 AR600 steel plates for 125 bucks from CATI; just recently they were on sale for 50 bucks each, and the 10x12 multi-curve plates were 60 a pop.
How much does it weigh? And whats the price tag on it?
ChromeDove The 10x12 is 8lb 7oz with the anti-spall coat. Price is $129.95 but make sure you check out VSO’s affiliate page for the discount.
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Thank you!
Think im gonna grab me a pair. Not bad at all
I’d like to see it vs some m855 or m866A1
Did you test m855 and m193? That's one of their biggest selling points.
Love the videos ceep up the good work
I would like to see how it does against some bigger rifle rounds.
This may be arranged
@@VSO_Gun_Channel 👍 I think 243 or 270 are good at popping holes in AR500! Great videos man
Does anyone have some literature on why these plates cannot be certified through NIJ? I’ve been looking around and can’t find anything. I see that they have been rated and tested, but not certified.
They seem like solid plates, I am just curious at this point.
no fud rounds you hunt bear with a Henry fud rifle in the fud cal 45 70 WTF
Love that your still using that fucking pyro lol
lead time is not short any more. 1 month plus.
But do they have a back plate the same as that one?
Seems like some badass armor, I have this sneaking suspicion it will be a $300+ plate though.
Also it would be cool to see some full spec, (chronos at least 3,200 fps) M193 out of a 20" barrel
140 for 11x14 Plate. Pretty incredible plate and stellar value I think.
@@themidnightanimal1555 I'd be inclined to agree at that price point. Its going on my list.
@@toki89666 Same, I might go ahead and pick up a couple sets.
And for everyone who stuck around till the end there is a code
@@VSO_Gun_Channel damnit, I watched all but the last 2 minutes. Serves me right. Haha
Good stuff!
Are the rounds bouncing off recko??
What was the price on the vest in this video
308 30-06 same caliber
308 is basically "what's wrong with -06? FIXED"
The VSO Gun Channel I’m not arguing which is better. You said you were shooting 308 and not -06 because you don’t dabble in fud calibers. I am saying they are both 30 caliber. All in good fun
What size is this plate?
Did you really imply that shooting, or even having, a .30-06 makes you a fudd? Wow, you might want to re-evaluate that thinking.
M 1 with ap a fud round ? ditch that century junk before it breaks one of many shitty welds and hurts someone get a nice cheap PTR be safe
Runs optics on regular guns.
Has a fucking machine gun and uses iron sights
How you can tell someone works in guns.
Did u really just call 30-06 a fudd caliber??? It's been used in every major modern war. Do you even know what that caliber was designed to hunt?
I'd be willing to bet the .30-06 has put holes in more enemy soldiers, from WWI to present than any other caliber round. ...probably more than twice all others combined.
Germans i guess...
@@RenaissanceThinking 8mm mauser has entered the chat
5.45 ammo? Green tip 556???
Bilal doha M855 cannot be made fast enough to penetrate that plate. The V50 is only listed as > 3550 as the projectile couldn’t be made to go any faster. The plate has also been tested with 7.62 x 39 API-BZ. I have not had the opportunity to try any of the 5.45 x 39 variants.
flexing the machine gun at every opportunity huh?
It’s an excellent tool
@@VSO_Gun_Channel I know how to get the license for machine guns but how do you learn how to manufacture one. I would love to do this kind of stuff one day without the atf kicking in my door or blowing up my firearms.
This question doesn’t make sense sorry
@@rockerdude8000 Get a type 07 FFL with a class 2 SOT. I'm sure you'll have to prove you're an actual business as well.
@@rockerdude8000 its illegal to modify a firearm to make it automatic. Unless you go through the 6 to 12 month process and pay out a lot of money just like a suppressor
Where can I get this Plate?
See pinned post
I’d still go for metal based armor , less hurt
Does Wombat get Hangry when you trick him into thinking you are doing a food taste test video? Armor Plates? Really? Not food on plates? Dammit!
Are you actually a chemist?
I worked as one for ~5 years.
Breaking bad chemistry doesn’t count 😂
what level III rating are you using? level III, level III+, level IIIa, level .... 3 rifle? what does rifle mean? 16in 9mm? 556? 762? 338 lep? 50 bmg?
NIJ
@Farley Moab lololol at that point it's not even about stopping the bullet, it's absorbing the impact energy, you'll be wishing you had just got shot instead... shoot steel does make targets rated at >300yrds... but no padding #DIYweekend
hey vso, yt is removing my likes from your videos?? i remember watching this vid awhile ago, and droppin a like as i do every time i watch one of your vids. well, i went to rewatch, and no like?? just thought you would want to know..
Like it 🦆
I is are smart 2.
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I'm sorry, the statement near the end where you say AR500 would have been cooked through, I'm calling BS on... I have a sh!tload of AR500 steel that I've got hundreds of rounds of 223/556 193 on at close range and I do t have any holes in. I've hit it with both 30-06, 6.5CM, and 12ga shot, 00 buck, and slugs at 25, 50, 100 yards from with nothing more than a few dimples, that's 3/8" and 5/16" AR500.
Ah, let's play a game.
What is the thickness of the steel plate in this video?
Because its 550, we can get a plate at that thickness that will rate at NIJ Lvl III. What does that mean for the weight of the plates?
FUDD calibre ? Still kills and better range. Just for real men!
Fudd caliber? That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Lmfao.
Learning has occurred
Fud calibers lmfao 😂 so true
Wait what ar500 wont hold up Hu I call bull shit
30-06 goes straight through it, I just watched a video where a guy tested it.
30-06 = M1 Garand = Fudd You!
There is a reason -06 was dropped
The VSO Gun Channel actually I’d like to know? Just a genuine question really. I’ve never shot it but I do shoot it’s larger brother 35 Whelen. It’s fantastic for when I hunt Alaska. Don’t know much of the 30-06 though.
@@thisisyourcaptin ,after Korea the military recognized how effective the -06 was against Chinese soldiers (like German and Italian before) but wanted a round that worked in a shorter action and wanted the general soldier to carry more rounds into combat b/c of changing battlefield techniques. The .308 (7.62x51) was born. The two are basicly brothers. Then going into Vietnam the 5.56 became the darling of the pentagon. But, the 7.62 family still sees action around the world.
The -06 after WWI and again after WWII and then after Korea saw a surge in the civilian markets as guys were coming home and wanted hunting rifles in a caliber they knew. From a ballistic standpoint there is no game in North America that the -06 can not take and is still taking. You can buy saboted rounds to ultra light grain rounds to 200+gr rounds currently for the venerable .30-06 today. Oh and you can buy surplus AP rounds that put perfect holes in steel.
As for recoil...my 128lb, 70 year old mother uses a cut down stocked remington 700BDL in -06 as her go to hunting rifle year in and year out for the last 45yrs.
Wm H thanks for info. Good to know.
lot of nonsense here - 6 round and the coating comes off that not impressive or any better than any body else
uh u shoot 100 rounds at the armor and think the the best armor I have seen ar500 armor on youtube before level 3+ was even produced take 100's or rounds so no big deal - nothing new to see here - ar500 ar550 and ar600 if its level 3 and all performs the same if its level 3+ all three armor times perform the same nothing new here spalding coats from all the manufactures take about the same damage maybe some kevlar sheet placed in the vest would do the same or add protection but nothing new
Ok, I found this video after looking at Caliber's web site (no mailing list either?) I think you where confused speaking about the ar500 & ar550 that most stayed away because its to brittle , you surely most have meant ar650.
To me and what I saw in the video this Caliber armor "Failed" not because of the metal but rather the poor or lack of a bond of the anti-spawl resin to metal plate , as you can see every time the entire anti-spawl layer pealed off as a whole and not just the effected area, this could also be caused by the preparation of metal prior to applying the resin anti-spawl IMHO. I did find the extra curvature interesting (I assume it mite be more comfortable then other brands) particularly if someone isn't running side plates but that swimmers cut plus the curves you'd have to find or have made a custom plate carrier. If the Manufacturer Caliber Armor could fix this anti-spawl bonding issue it mite be worth looking at again.
While this video shows you put allot of rounds downrange , I have to agree with the other posters comments that this test was of smaller caliber and short slow barrels. Yes, there are a lot of pistols & 223/556, 762/308 around BUT there are lots of very common real guns out there also of larger caliber (including your "fudd" 30-06 and others). This video was defiantly meant to favor the manufacturer for demo video but a better advertisement is a manufacturer willing to show their plates being hit by larger then rated ammo to show the failing points , back deformation, edge failures, an anti spawl control , as a buyer that is something I always look for since I want to know how far I can push the rig when needed.
Don't get me wrong I appreciate anyone willing to test products and share those videos for public to view, so thank you for posting the video and the manufacture Caliber armor for supplying you the plates to test.
Do you have black tip 30.06 ammo?
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30-06 IS a fudd round.
Why do youtubers say spalling when they mean deflection??? Spalling is when the back of the target becomes frag. Like when you blow a small hole in concrete but the backside blows out in a cone shape. That's spalling.
Look up the definition of the word spall.
It means to break up into smaller pieces. When a round is defeated by Steel it shatters and blasts out in a cone. The coatings are also usually called antispall by the manufacturer
@@VSO_Gun_Channel it's different when you're talking about projectiles. I first learned about spalling in EOD. Here's an example: "HESH is High Explosive Squash Head. Its a charge meant to create spall(small fragmentary pieces of metal from the inside of the tank itself) without actually penetrating the tank or whatever."
@@edjecollins4141 you're the first person I've met who seems to go by a different dictionary than everyone else. We're talking about body armor, not EOD.
Really wish we could have seen how a 556 from a 20" barrel would fare as that's known for poking holes in AR500 armour.